Yeah, it'll keep your software customizations. Maybe thats enough for most people. On the other hand, your interface to the software is through the hardware. Meaning that on a public terminal you're still using whatever crappy monitor, keyboard, and mouse that somebody put there. Nevermind that said computer may be godawful slow. And how do you know its not infected with crazy spyware or something? I'm sure this system isn't going to pull your whole OS and applications off the net, so what if the terminal doesn't have the software you need on it? Nevermind that for me at least, all this is worthless because I'm sure I won't be finding any public GNOME-based desktops anywhere. And finally, I guarantee if they ever roll this out it'll be on a subscription plan, and I for one already have too many of those.
Well, 'got the shit kicked out of it' is a bit of a stretch. The 2.8GHz did compete well in at least half the tests. Of course, one can't help but notice that the fastest Athlon tested was the 2600+. My suspicion is that if you throw the 2700+ and 2800+ into the fray, the picture will look quite different for the Celeron D. And since you can get either for less than $117, I can't imagine why they weren't included except to skew the results.
Oh, and I was amused to see my lowly 2500+ come out on top in several of the tests, it being only a $75 processor these days. AND they typically overclock to 3200+ (2.2GHz) quite nicely.
Of course its pretty easy to hook spamassassin, bogofilter, or whathaveyou into Evolution. Tutorials abound if you search google. Thunderbird's nice, but IMO Evolution's still a bit nicer, so it was worth my time to plug in a spam filter manually.
Ok, admittedly I've never owned a P4, but I was all about the PII/PIII. Maybe I missed a great era in processing, but when did Intel *ever* allow overclocking?! My understanding was they clamped down starting with the Pentium Pro and never let up since, meaning you had to buy a board from Asus or Abit, or really anybody who isn't Intel in order to overclock.
And furthermore, I seem to recall that even if your mobo would overclock the FSB, you couldn't change the multiplier on Intel chips anyway. Heck, as far as I know you can't change the multiplier on any recent Athlons without some sort of hack (granted the motherboard manufacturers are doing the hacking for you these days). This isn't news, and I'm surprised how many people seem to think it is...
Power utilities I am familiar with don't operate like that. The only way you can do a shut off is to go to the customer's house and physically unplug them.
In this case, I'm betting either (1) it didn't occur to the IT people that customers were being shut off, or (2) the slow-moving bureaucratic nature of the utility took over and by the time anybody decided to do anything, the damage was done.
Fair enough. We *are* talking about free speech though. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the blacks could always complain about not being able to use the water fountain.
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Last I checked, about:config works just fine in the standard Mozilla suite as well. For that matter, it works in Epiphany. I'm pretty sure its just part of Gecko.
1) When Linux fails, it typically fails consistently. It typically logs information that will prove useful to figuring out why it failed, and 99.9% of the time it failed because I did something dumb. Windows XP still breaks on me for no apparent reason. It doesn't do it as often as Windows 98, but I think not understanding what happened actually bothers me more than the crash itself.
2) Does this distinction really matter so much? Personally, I think Linux is really more secure, in addition to being more obscure. But just so long as your box doesn't get hosed, do you really care why? And again, in Linux I can probably recover and figure out what happened. In Windows, might as well just grab the install disc and start over. Oh, and can you *actually* get rid of Outlook? I didn't think you could. Even then, you'll still have IE lurking someplace.
3) The amount of aggravation is inversely related to the degree of experience you have with the system. Use Linux long enough and you'll find that when you use Windows it will piss you off because nothing works the way you expect. Just make sure you research your hardware purchases, but any good geek knows everything about the hardware he's buying anyway.
On a personal note, I don't like the Windows GUI. Never have really, even before I knew about alternate operating systems. I do, however, like the GNOME GUI, and also the XFCE GUI. And don't get me started on the prevalence of useless wizards in Windows! Why do you think Windows users always click OK without reading the dialog? I could go on, but I probably shouldn't...
More to the point, there is enough mindshare out there for MSN and Yahoo messengers that if they started charging for basic text messages everybody would just switch.
Of course, Gnome 2.6 in spatial view (and I think in explorer view too) will let you do the same thing you're describing in iTunes. Just start typing and it will go highlight the first match.
That seems a bit suspicious to me... they're comparing the "Caesar salad with Chicken Premiere" (which I've never eaten, but it sounds like its probably got a lot of stuff on it), to the standard cheesburger, which we all know is tiny. While I'd naturally question the healthiness of anything McDonalds puts on their menu, this sounds like some reporter digging for a story thats not really there.
> I've never understood what Linux people are talking about when they say that Linux 'runs faster' than Windows.
Two things to consider. First, compare a modern Windows system to a modern Linux system immediately after the initial installs. I betcha Windows is subjectively much faster. But if you let both systems acquire cruft for 6 months or so, I expect the results will be quite different.
Second, see how many things you can do at the same time before the system starts to grind to a halt. Play movies, music, browse the web, install a couple of things, maybe compile something in the background. In my experience, Windows will be ready to collapse if you get it doing more than 3 substantial tasks at once, but Linux will chug right along.
Seems like every day we have a story about such-and-such is the biggest cause of spam. In fact, I bet we've accounted for at least 400% of spam with all these stories combined.
If these trends continue, I'm afraid that one day soon I'll check slashdot and find out that 97% of all spam is coming from my IP.
Bah, faulty logic. First, the monitor difference alone accounts for about $100. Second, Compaqs are crap, even from that era. Third, supply and demand. There is a vastly higher supply of old Intel machines than old Apple machines. Is that because people don't get rid of their Apples? Not necessarily. More likely its just because there were a hell of a lot more PII machines sold 6 or so years ago than Macs. For THAT matter, I'm fairly confident the 333MHz iMac came out substantially later than the 350MHz PII, so we're not even necessarily talking the same lifecycle.
1. How can your software be open source if it includes this 'black box' detection code? Sure can't be GPL.
2. How is this law going to be effective even if the detection software is in the open source photo editors? They're OPEN SOURCE, you can just not compile in the detection module.
3. Is this law *really* going to be effective, even if you ignore the open source implications?
Disagree about the fidelity. People don't only use iPods with headphones, in case you hadn't heard. Lots of people use them in their cars, or plugged into their home stereos, in addition to when they're out walking somewhere. For those corner cases, wouldn't you rather have the higher quality? If the iPod (or Karma or whatever) is going to be your principal source of music everywhere, which is sure what I'd use one for, then doesn't fidelity matter a bit. Maybe not to you, but then you don't represent anybody other than yourself.
Because this is slashdot. We're the ones that WANT it! If we don't speak for ourselves, who does? You don't like it, don't read the Vorbis articles. Its really not complicated.
LOL, I'm only halfway through, and already this "response to critics" is nothing more than a pile of invective and blatant FUD. Not even clever FUD, the dumb "how can we trust them" kind.
This quote is beautiful though:
> The point of the paper is to magnify potential problems associated with this type of software development.
Key word there is "magnify". Not impart, not highlight, not discuss. Magnify!
Good to see D-BUS and HAL integration on the roadmap for 2.8. Just set them up on 2.6 last night, and they're quite fancy.
ATM, all they do (in conjunction with gnome-volume-manager) is automount/unmount/run removable media. Pretty much what you got with autorun for years on Windows, but more extensible in that you can tell the daemon what program to run, etc. Its also setup to detect/play dvds, and import photos from a digital camera automagically. Long overdue perhaps, but still very nice to have.
I suspect the best improvements are coming in the future once this is all integrated. Basically it gives the system a queryable, extensible device manager. In the future, I would expect all software that does hardware interaction will interface with this layer, for detection, hotplug, identification, and so forth. Long story short, its an absolutely critical piece of Linux on the desktop.
Don't worry. Even if all the virus writers go away, there will still be the spammers and the spyware writers. Not to mention the really-shitty-driver writers. They're the most nefarious of the bunch.
I think you're overanalyzing a bit. So what if its called '...for Dummies'. Does that inherently mean that it has no good information in it? I'd argue that its 'dumb' to believe that the purchase of a book would define the purchaser as a dummy or idiot.
I won't argue that there is a 'cool to be dumb' element in our culture, but I seriously think you're reaching when you try to connect it to the popularity of the 'for dummies' books. Maybe they're just good references.
Seriously, it makes all the difference, and 9.1 is the first SuSE to ship with it. Betcha Mandrake 10 and Fedora Core 2 feel just as snappy. Eye candy will vary though.
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I believe that. Witness the fact that tons of people still play Starcraft.
Yeah, it'll keep your software customizations. Maybe thats enough for most people. On the other hand, your interface to the software is through the hardware. Meaning that on a public terminal you're still using whatever crappy monitor, keyboard, and mouse that somebody put there. Nevermind that said computer may be godawful slow. And how do you know its not infected with crazy spyware or something? I'm sure this system isn't going to pull your whole OS and applications off the net, so what if the terminal doesn't have the software you need on it? Nevermind that for me at least, all this is worthless because I'm sure I won't be finding any public GNOME-based desktops anywhere. And finally, I guarantee if they ever roll this out it'll be on a subscription plan, and I for one already have too many of those.
Well, 'got the shit kicked out of it' is a bit of a stretch. The 2.8GHz did compete well in at least half the tests. Of course, one can't help but notice that the fastest Athlon tested was the 2600+. My suspicion is that if you throw the 2700+ and 2800+ into the fray, the picture will look quite different for the Celeron D. And since you can get either for less than $117, I can't imagine why they weren't included except to skew the results.
Oh, and I was amused to see my lowly 2500+ come out on top in several of the tests, it being only a $75 processor these days. AND they typically overclock to 3200+ (2.2GHz) quite nicely.
Of course its pretty easy to hook spamassassin, bogofilter, or whathaveyou into Evolution. Tutorials abound if you search google. Thunderbird's nice, but IMO Evolution's still a bit nicer, so it was worth my time to plug in a spam filter manually.
Ok, admittedly I've never owned a P4, but I was all about the PII/PIII. Maybe I missed a great era in processing, but when did Intel *ever* allow overclocking?! My understanding was they clamped down starting with the Pentium Pro and never let up since, meaning you had to buy a board from Asus or Abit, or really anybody who isn't Intel in order to overclock.
And furthermore, I seem to recall that even if your mobo would overclock the FSB, you couldn't change the multiplier on Intel chips anyway. Heck, as far as I know you can't change the multiplier on any recent Athlons without some sort of hack (granted the motherboard manufacturers are doing the hacking for you these days). This isn't news, and I'm surprised how many people seem to think it is...
Power utilities I am familiar with don't operate like that. The only way you can do a shut off is to go to the customer's house and physically unplug them.
In this case, I'm betting either (1) it didn't occur to the IT people that customers were being shut off, or (2) the slow-moving bureaucratic nature of the utility took over and by the time anybody decided to do anything, the damage was done.
Fair enough. We *are* talking about free speech though. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the blacks could always complain about not being able to use the water fountain.
Last I checked, about:config works just fine in the standard Mozilla suite as well. For that matter, it works in Epiphany. I'm pretty sure its just part of Gecko.
Ah, welcome to the world of statistical irrelevance we Linux users have inhabited for so long. It does have its upsides.
1) When Linux fails, it typically fails consistently. It typically logs information that will prove useful to figuring out why it failed, and 99.9% of the time it failed because I did something dumb. Windows XP still breaks on me for no apparent reason. It doesn't do it as often as Windows 98, but I think not understanding what happened actually bothers me more than the crash itself.
2) Does this distinction really matter so much? Personally, I think Linux is really more secure, in addition to being more obscure. But just so long as your box doesn't get hosed, do you really care why? And again, in Linux I can probably recover and figure out what happened. In Windows, might as well just grab the install disc and start over. Oh, and can you *actually* get rid of Outlook? I didn't think you could. Even then, you'll still have IE lurking someplace.
3) The amount of aggravation is inversely related to the degree of experience you have with the system. Use Linux long enough and you'll find that when you use Windows it will piss you off because nothing works the way you expect. Just make sure you research your hardware purchases, but any good geek knows everything about the hardware he's buying anyway.
On a personal note, I don't like the Windows GUI. Never have really, even before I knew about alternate operating systems. I do, however, like the GNOME GUI, and also the XFCE GUI. And don't get me started on the prevalence of useless wizards in Windows! Why do you think Windows users always click OK without reading the dialog? I could go on, but I probably shouldn't...
More to the point, there is enough mindshare out there for MSN and Yahoo messengers that if they started charging for basic text messages everybody would just switch.
Of course, Gnome 2.6 in spatial view (and I think in explorer view too) will let you do the same thing you're describing in iTunes. Just start typing and it will go highlight the first match.
That seems a bit suspicious to me... they're comparing the "Caesar salad with Chicken Premiere" (which I've never eaten, but it sounds like its probably got a lot of stuff on it), to the standard cheesburger, which we all know is tiny. While I'd naturally question the healthiness of anything McDonalds puts on their menu, this sounds like some reporter digging for a story thats not really there.
> I've never understood what Linux people are talking about when they say that Linux 'runs faster' than Windows.
Two things to consider. First, compare a modern Windows system to a modern Linux system immediately after the initial installs. I betcha Windows is subjectively much faster. But if you let both systems acquire cruft for 6 months or so, I expect the results will be quite different.
Second, see how many things you can do at the same time before the system starts to grind to a halt. Play movies, music, browse the web, install a couple of things, maybe compile something in the background. In my experience, Windows will be ready to collapse if you get it doing more than 3 substantial tasks at once, but Linux will chug right along.
Seems like every day we have a story about such-and-such is the biggest cause of spam. In fact, I bet we've accounted for at least 400% of spam with all these stories combined.
If these trends continue, I'm afraid that one day soon I'll check slashdot and find out that 97% of all spam is coming from my IP.
Bah, faulty logic. First, the monitor difference alone accounts for about $100. Second, Compaqs are crap, even from that era. Third, supply and demand. There is a vastly higher supply of old Intel machines than old Apple machines. Is that because people don't get rid of their Apples? Not necessarily. More likely its just because there were a hell of a lot more PII machines sold 6 or so years ago than Macs. For THAT matter, I'm fairly confident the 333MHz iMac came out substantially later than the 350MHz PII, so we're not even necessarily talking the same lifecycle.
1. How can your software be open source if it includes this 'black box' detection code? Sure can't be GPL.
2. How is this law going to be effective even if the detection software is in the open source photo editors? They're OPEN SOURCE, you can just not compile in the detection module.
3. Is this law *really* going to be effective, even if you ignore the open source implications?
Disagree about the fidelity. People don't only use iPods with headphones, in case you hadn't heard. Lots of people use them in their cars, or plugged into their home stereos, in addition to when they're out walking somewhere. For those corner cases, wouldn't you rather have the higher quality? If the iPod (or Karma or whatever) is going to be your principal source of music everywhere, which is sure what I'd use one for, then doesn't fidelity matter a bit. Maybe not to you, but then you don't represent anybody other than yourself.
A few customers. I'll freely admit thats probably not more than 1,000. But thats still ~$300,000 additional income.
Will it cost developer time? Sure. I'd argue that their support staff would be mostly unaffected by the move though.
Because this is slashdot. We're the ones that WANT it! If we don't speak for ourselves, who does? You don't like it, don't read the Vorbis articles. Its really not complicated.
LOL, I'm only halfway through, and already this "response to critics" is nothing more than a pile of invective and blatant FUD. Not even clever FUD, the dumb "how can we trust them" kind.
This quote is beautiful though:
> The point of the paper is to magnify potential problems associated with this type of software development.
Key word there is "magnify". Not impart, not highlight, not discuss. Magnify!
Good to see D-BUS and HAL integration on the roadmap for 2.8. Just set them up on 2.6 last night, and they're quite fancy.
ATM, all they do (in conjunction with gnome-volume-manager) is automount/unmount/run removable media. Pretty much what you got with autorun for years on Windows, but more extensible in that you can tell the daemon what program to run, etc. Its also setup to detect/play dvds, and import photos from a digital camera automagically. Long overdue perhaps, but still very nice to have.
I suspect the best improvements are coming in the future once this is all integrated. Basically it gives the system a queryable, extensible device manager. In the future, I would expect all software that does hardware interaction will interface with this layer, for detection, hotplug, identification, and so forth. Long story short, its an absolutely critical piece of Linux on the desktop.
Don't worry. Even if all the virus writers go away, there will still be the spammers and the spyware writers. Not to mention the really-shitty-driver writers. They're the most nefarious of the bunch.
I think you're overanalyzing a bit. So what if its called '...for Dummies'. Does that inherently mean that it has no good information in it? I'd argue that its 'dumb' to believe that the purchase of a book would define the purchaser as a dummy or idiot.
I won't argue that there is a 'cool to be dumb' element in our culture, but I seriously think you're reaching when you try to connect it to the popularity of the 'for dummies' books. Maybe they're just good references.
*cough* Kernel 2.6 *cough*
Seriously, it makes all the difference, and 9.1 is the first SuSE to ship with it. Betcha Mandrake 10 and Fedora Core 2 feel just as snappy. Eye candy will vary though.