Based on our current rate of advancement in understanding genetics, virus host interaction, and immune function it is entirely possible that we will have solved the problem of conferring immunity to all viruses within the next 1000 years.
Now who is making assumptions? What about accounting for you 'Life ending cosmic events' and other such irrelevancies? This is why I keep telling you how stupid and thick you are. You keep going into irrelevant tangents. What I state was a simple and accurate observation about the evolution of a virus. You bring up pointless crap about infinity, life ending on earth, and the advance of medical science. Why not throw in some comments about how it might be wrong if someone finds a magic lamp and wishes viruses out of existence? Now I will call you illiterate (yet again), since I already commented on all the painfully obvious points you raised in defense of your unwarranted attack on my simple and accurate observation.
This is a description of division, or more specifically a fraction. Therefore my comment was completely relevant to what you wrote...if you read it quite literally as it was written. I apologize for assuming that we could discuss things at a level of complexity beyond that of a fourth grader. I mistakenly though that since I was speaking of changes over time, and sigma sums, that perhaps a reader might be clued in to the fact that the mathematics was in fact, the calculus, and not actually rudimentary division.
What the parent was describing was the spontaneous acquisition of certain abilities by an innocuous virus in the absence of any sort of genetic recombination or mutation simply because a cell had been infected by both viruses. Here is the salient point again
Yeah, I skipped over reading whatever it is you are blathering on about, because I don't really care. You seem to think that my comment somehow was an attempt to support the parent's thesis. I thought we already covered this point.
While you have spouted off about all sorts of 'but, what if' protests, you have not addressed my main observation, that viruses will mutate over time, and that given time they will oscillate between being more or less detrimental to their hosts. Now, we could have had an interesting conversation about the 'predator prey relationships' between a virus and hosts over evolutionary relevant time spans or any number of other interesting related topics, but no. You had to come in flaming me like some sort of dickhead troll. Perhaps you should take a hint about the quality of your thought that several of your pointless and incendiary replies to this thread were in fact, marked as 'trolls'. If you are going to try to correct misconceptions and engage in rational discussion, try not open the debate by shoving your own dick in your mouth.
As your indication that I'm a soft science loser, I fail to see where you got that impression. I'm a practitioner of the life sciences.
I got it from you.
Applied Life science < biology < chemistry < physics < math and logic.
Like I said, 'Soft Science'. Take a wild fucking guess where I am on the scale. I am not actually questioning your qualifications, as they are quite irrelevant since a good idea or a true statement can be uttered by anyone. I am engaging in ad-hominim attacks in the fashion that you opened with. Normally that is a debating faux pas, but it seems to get the attention of criminally stupid people who like to flame and argue. So, 'When in Rome...'
'Over long enough time frames' is so vague as to imply infinity. That is the only way that your statement can actually be as certain as you believe it to be.
if i had meant infinity, I would have said infinity. Lean to read. I feel pretty confident in saying that we will experience viral outbreak that will rival the Spanish influenza epidemic within the next 1000 years, which last time I checked, is considerably shorter than ETERNITY. It would be fairly trivial to construct an accurate data model that would put the probability of said event beyond the third deviation.
I jumped on you because you demonstrated a lack of critical thinking skill to dissect the parent post. Instead you did the minimum amount of thinking necessary to enable you to use the "change one word in someones post and then say 'Fixed that for you' meme." While that may have given you a warm tingly feeling it did nothing to contribute to the conversation and if anything lent credibility to a complex combination of FUD and out right lies that was the parent post.
I said what I said to point out the simple fact that dangerous viral mutation isn't a 'if', its a 'when'. Nitpick all you want, but I am correct. You can mentally attach my post all you want to the parent's, but it only underscores your confusion and pedantry.
P.S. any value divided by infinity is Zero. What you are thinking of is dividing anything by Zero gives you infinity.
You fail to comprehend even the simplest of statements. While this is true, is is tangential to anything I said. I'd like to respond in a similar manner, and say, 'The sky is occasionally blue'.
I was speaking of the summation of an infinite series, which is entry level calc. Did they let you out of whatever community college you attended without even that? Learn some math, you soft science loser.
However, that is based on the assumption that all life on Earth isn't wiped out first.
Or that a super virus doesn't destroy all other viruses. Or we don't evolve into pure energy. Or the universe implodes. You have any other irrelevant tangential crap to bring up?
What you are guilty of is making assumptions that are not safe to make (the infinite existence of life on earth)
Never assumed that. I don't need to. Sigma(small value) over infinity is infinity. We aren't looking for an infinite number of viral variations, just one. Learn to read. I said 'over long time frames', not 'until the end of fucking infinity'.
the frequency of viral mutations happens on short enough of a timescale, that I would think that we can skip over discussions of assumptions of infinite existence of life on earth. You can quibble about details all you want. I made a basic statement that was correct. You jumped on me because you can't read. You are wrong. I am right. Deal with it.
I get annoyed when the uninformed spread misinformation, and those pretending to slightly more information accept the misinformation at face value
Hey dumbfuck, I was correct and you are a blowhard. The quote I made was an observation of probability. A virus will mutate over time. That's a fucking fact. Statistically, over long time frames, viruses will emerge that are more lethal than the 1917 pandemic. That's also a fucking fact. That's the extent of what I said, so no, I wasn't spreading misinformation. Learn some math, dipshit, and learn to read.
I agree with the parent. I trust the Disney corporation about as much as SCO or anyone involved in investment banking. I completely distrust DRM schemes, and anyone involved in them. Why would I want anything to do with some stupid plan Disney has for wringing a few more bucks out of consumers?
This press release is irritating me to no end. I'm going home to pirate a few crappy Disney films out of general spite.
Actually, I was making no comments either way about the validity of parent's science, simply observing that when eventual mutation into N1H1 or some other virulent offshoot is simply a matter of time. Of course, you probably missed that in your hurry to 'correct' me.
Here is a line that you need to remember in the future before posting in topics about which you know little if anything
Hey, do you have to turn sideways to get through doorways with that ego? I thought you might be trolling at first, but then I actually noticed that you seem to care about your petty tirade. Good thing, because that makes one person on the Internet that cares...
I find it highly humorous that you quoted Abe, about speaking up and showing your idiocy. You seem to want to go off on some sort of self-righteous rant about how your posting was right and that other guy's was wrong. I care not. I laugh at your silly pedantic behavior. LOL
...but supposing all the employees actually respond, what do you think the FCC is going to make of several hundred thousand email from a single domain owned by a company with vested interests in the process? If they can't spot such blatant astroturfing, I'd be amazed.
when such event takes place, that event has a good chance of making the 1917 flu pandemic look like a tiny issue. That disease literally blocked the world economy for over 2 months, making millions of victims.
Fixed that for you. Remember that old line: "Anything that can happen, given enough time, will".
While supporters of traditional marriage use legal and ethical means to promote their agenda
You mean beat, torment, demonize, and murder homosexuals for the last several thousand years while in control of the government's definition of what is 'legal'?
sound reproduction is not a chain, it's a relay race. Any particular member of that race can single handedly improve or worsen the reproduction.
Incorrect. If I take a crappy Power amp and crank it until it is fuzzy, $10k professional studio monitors will not fix the problem.
Everything between the singers mouth and your ears is can only degrade the signal. Every time signal is lost, it cannot be recovered. It can be altered, and possibly in ways that are aesthetically pleasing (compression, reverb, etc.), but it is always a downhill ride.
At some point the signal is cancelled. Those frequencies you can't hear overlap with other frequencies you can't hear and with frequencies that you can hear and the sound is changed.
Are you trying to tell me that if two 18khz signals from separate sources interact with each other, that the resulting signal will suddenly become 16khz and thus be audible? Because that sure sounds like what you are saying.
you would have a better chance of selling me on that sort of silliness if you insisted that audio red shifting was occurring. Are you listening to your music via ambulance siren?
Thats strange, I find it trivial to identify differing qualities of compression when listening to my music files.
You look down at the UI, and it tells you what the bitrate is.
(Joking aside, I have advocated 128 kbps for years, not because of sound quality issues, but rather because most people own cheap computer speakers and/or headphones. You only get quality as good as the weakest link in the system.)
Actually, while they are not producing any goods in the traditional sense, they increase the liquidy of the market. The more more liquid it is the better is is for pretty much anyone, or so economists say. So they do produce a useful service of sorts.
But yeah, I see your point, they do seem like pointless generally parasites that just try to make money off the inherent noise in the system. Personally, I think that it sounds like a really risky form of investing with a fairly low payout for the amount of time, effort, and risk involved. But each to his own, and a fool and his money...
Frankly, I can't believe the plaintiff attorneys can perform this "pot calling the kettle black" act with a straight face. Given that most judges were lawyers themselves, I find it unimaginable that they don't already see through the bullshit.
It seems fairly clear that the judge did see through the BS. Just because someone files a silly complaint and the judge doesn't shoot it down outright doesn't mean they are 'buying' the BS.
I would imagine that many judges are inclined to hear out both side's arguments fully, in order to give the case a fair shake. This probably involves listening to a lot of stupid blathering over the course of a career as a judge. If you just dismiss everything outright, I would think that would make the case more likely to be appealed.
Also, there is an old saying about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves...
Love or hate it, once it starts it will never stop. In ten years, we will look at games like doom and quake, and marvel not at their primitive graphics, but their lack of ads.
I just hope that devs aren't fucking idiots, and forget that the ad servers that they are querying for the latest ads might someday not be there..
One of the BB posts, noted that falsely issuing DMCA notices might be construed as abuse of process. If any real lawyers are lurking out there, could this be used as a counter tactic? What is the likely hood that you could make such a charge stick to the plantif or their counsel?
If the patent is blatantly illegitimate and is easy to prove it should be invalid then the lawyers are actually breaking the law.
Yeah, but any lawyer that is worth their salt would be able to argue that it is their honest opinion that there is factual basis for the claim. After all, if there wasn't dissent about the validity of the claim, it would be settled out of court.
The basic concept of patents is you share your discovery/insight with society at large, and in return you recieve a short term monopoly. Society is advanced by your knowledge, you are rewarded. Good for both parties.
I would not object to software patents if they actually provided the complete functional source code in the patent. You want a patent, you provide full disclosure.
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Based on our current rate of advancement in understanding genetics, virus host interaction, and immune function it is entirely possible that we will have solved the problem of conferring immunity to all viruses within the next 1000 years.
...if you read it quite literally as it was written. I apologize for assuming that we could discuss things at a level of complexity beyond that of a fourth grader. I mistakenly though that since I was speaking of changes over time, and sigma sums, that perhaps a reader might be clued in to the fact that the mathematics was in fact, the calculus, and not actually rudimentary division.
Now who is making assumptions? What about accounting for you 'Life ending cosmic events' and other such irrelevancies? This is why I keep telling you how stupid and thick you are. You keep going into irrelevant tangents. What I state was a simple and accurate observation about the evolution of a virus. You bring up pointless crap about infinity, life ending on earth, and the advance of medical science. Why not throw in some comments about how it might be wrong if someone finds a magic lamp and wishes viruses out of existence? Now I will call you illiterate (yet again), since I already commented on all the painfully obvious points you raised in defense of your unwarranted attack on my simple and accurate observation.
This is a description of division, or more specifically a fraction. Therefore my comment was completely relevant to what you wrote
What the parent was describing was the spontaneous acquisition of certain abilities by an innocuous virus in the absence of any sort of genetic recombination or mutation simply because a cell had been infected by both viruses. Here is the salient point again
Yeah, I skipped over reading whatever it is you are blathering on about, because I don't really care. You seem to think that my comment somehow was an attempt to support the parent's thesis. I thought we already covered this point.
While you have spouted off about all sorts of 'but, what if' protests, you have not addressed my main observation, that viruses will mutate over time, and that given time they will oscillate between being more or less detrimental to their hosts. Now, we could have had an interesting conversation about the 'predator prey relationships' between a virus and hosts over evolutionary relevant time spans or any number of other interesting related topics, but no. You had to come in flaming me like some sort of dickhead troll. Perhaps you should take a hint about the quality of your thought that several of your pointless and incendiary replies to this thread were in fact, marked as 'trolls'. If you are going to try to correct misconceptions and engage in rational discussion, try not open the debate by shoving your own dick in your mouth.
As your indication that I'm a soft science loser, I fail to see where you got that impression. I'm a practitioner of the life sciences.
I got it from you.
Applied Life science < biology < chemistry < physics < math and logic.
Like I said, 'Soft Science'. Take a wild fucking guess where I am on the scale. I am not actually questioning your qualifications, as they are quite irrelevant since a good idea or a true statement can be uttered by anyone. I am engaging in ad-hominim attacks in the fashion that you opened with. Normally that is a debating faux pas, but it seems to get the attention of criminally stupid people who like to flame and argue. So, 'When in Rome...'
'Over long enough time frames' is so vague as to imply infinity. That is the only way that your statement can actually be as certain as you believe it to be.
if i had meant infinity, I would have said infinity. Lean to read. I feel pretty confident in saying that we will experience viral outbreak that will rival the Spanish influenza epidemic within the next 1000 years, which last time I checked, is considerably shorter than ETERNITY. It would be fairly trivial to construct an accurate data model that would put the probability of said event beyond the third deviation.
I jumped on you because you demonstrated a lack of critical thinking skill to dissect the parent post. Instead you did the minimum amount of thinking necessary to enable you to use the "change one word in someones post and then say 'Fixed that for you' meme." While that may have given you a warm tingly feeling it did nothing to contribute to the conversation and if anything lent credibility to a complex combination of FUD and out right lies that was the parent post.
I said what I said to point out the simple fact that dangerous viral mutation isn't a 'if', its a 'when'. Nitpick all you want, but I am correct. You can mentally attach my post all you want to the parent's, but it only underscores your confusion and pedantry.
P.S. any value divided by infinity is Zero. What you are thinking of is dividing anything by Zero gives you infinity.
You fail to comprehend even the simplest of statements. While this is true, is is tangential to anything I said. I'd like to respond in a similar manner, and say, 'The sky is occasionally blue'.
I was speaking of the summation of an infinite series, which is entry level calc. Did they let you out of whatever community college you attended without even that? Learn some math, you soft science loser.
However, that is based on the assumption that all life on Earth isn't wiped out first.
Or that a super virus doesn't destroy all other viruses. Or we don't evolve into pure energy. Or the universe implodes. You have any other irrelevant tangential crap to bring up?
What you are guilty of is making assumptions that are not safe to make (the infinite existence of life on earth)
Never assumed that. I don't need to. Sigma(small value) over infinity is infinity. We aren't looking for an infinite number of viral variations, just one. Learn to read. I said 'over long time frames', not 'until the end of fucking infinity'.
the frequency of viral mutations happens on short enough of a timescale, that I would think that we can skip over discussions of assumptions of infinite existence of life on earth. You can quibble about details all you want. I made a basic statement that was correct. You jumped on me because you can't read. You are wrong. I am right. Deal with it.
I get annoyed when the uninformed spread misinformation, and those pretending to slightly more information accept the misinformation at face value
Hey dumbfuck, I was correct and you are a blowhard. The quote I made was an observation of probability. A virus will mutate over time. That's a fucking fact. Statistically, over long time frames, viruses will emerge that are more lethal than the 1917 pandemic. That's also a fucking fact. That's the extent of what I said, so no, I wasn't spreading misinformation. Learn some math, dipshit, and learn to read.
I agree with the parent. I trust the Disney corporation about as much as SCO or anyone involved in investment banking. I completely distrust DRM schemes, and anyone involved in them. Why would I want anything to do with some stupid plan Disney has for wringing a few more bucks out of consumers?
This press release is irritating me to no end. I'm going home to pirate a few crappy Disney films out of general spite.
Actually, I was making no comments either way about the validity of parent's science, simply observing that when eventual mutation into N1H1 or some other virulent offshoot is simply a matter of time. Of course, you probably missed that in your hurry to 'correct' me.
Here is a line that you need to remember in the future before posting in topics about which you know little if anything
Hey, do you have to turn sideways to get through doorways with that ego? I thought you might be trolling at first, but then I actually noticed that you seem to care about your petty tirade. Good thing, because that makes one person on the Internet that cares...
I find it highly humorous that you quoted Abe, about speaking up and showing your idiocy. You seem to want to go off on some sort of self-righteous rant about how your posting was right and that other guy's was wrong. I care not. I laugh at your silly pedantic behavior. LOL
...but supposing all the employees actually respond, what do you think the FCC is going to make of several hundred thousand email from a single domain owned by a company with vested interests in the process? If they can't spot such blatant astroturfing, I'd be amazed.
when such event takes place, that event has a good chance of making the 1917 flu pandemic look like a tiny issue. That disease literally blocked the world economy for over 2 months, making millions of victims.
Fixed that for you. Remember that old line: "Anything that can happen, given enough time, will".
...It's good to see Darryl McBride found a new job so quickly, isn't it? Who says the job market is down...
While supporters of traditional marriage use legal and ethical means to promote their agenda
You mean beat, torment, demonize, and murder homosexuals for the last several thousand years while in control of the government's definition of what is 'legal'?
sound reproduction is not a chain, it's a relay race. Any particular member of that race can single handedly improve or worsen the reproduction.
Incorrect. If I take a crappy Power amp and crank it until it is fuzzy, $10k professional studio monitors will not fix the problem.
Everything between the singers mouth and your ears is can only degrade the signal. Every time signal is lost, it cannot be recovered. It can be altered, and possibly in ways that are aesthetically pleasing (compression, reverb, etc.), but it is always a downhill ride.
At some point the signal is cancelled. Those frequencies you can't hear overlap with other frequencies you can't hear and with frequencies that you can hear and the sound is changed.
Are you trying to tell me that if two 18khz signals from separate sources interact with each other, that the resulting signal will suddenly become 16khz and thus be audible? Because that sure sounds like what you are saying.
you would have a better chance of selling me on that sort of silliness if you insisted that audio red shifting was occurring. Are you listening to your music via ambulance siren?
Thats strange, I find it trivial to identify differing qualities of compression when listening to my music files.
You look down at the UI, and it tells you what the bitrate is.
(Joking aside, I have advocated 128 kbps for years, not because of sound quality issues, but rather because most people own cheap computer speakers and/or headphones. You only get quality as good as the weakest link in the system.)
First of, I'd like to say to Kaspersky:
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Then I'd like to follow up with:
Fuck off, you tool.
Actually, while they are not producing any goods in the traditional sense, they increase the liquidy of the market. The more more liquid it is the better is is for pretty much anyone, or so economists say. So they do produce a useful service of sorts.
But yeah, I see your point, they do seem like pointless generally parasites that just try to make money off the inherent noise in the system. Personally, I think that it sounds like a really risky form of investing with a fairly low payout for the amount of time, effort, and risk involved. But each to his own, and a fool and his money...
Ewwwwwwww....I think you just described your own grandmother as a GILF.....
Frankly, I can't believe the plaintiff attorneys can perform this "pot calling the kettle black" act with a straight face. Given that most judges were lawyers themselves, I find it unimaginable that they don't already see through the bullshit.
It seems fairly clear that the judge did see through the BS. Just because someone files a silly complaint and the judge doesn't shoot it down outright doesn't mean they are 'buying' the BS.
I would imagine that many judges are inclined to hear out both side's arguments fully, in order to give the case a fair shake. This probably involves listening to a lot of stupid blathering over the course of a career as a judge. If you just dismiss everything outright, I would think that would make the case more likely to be appealed.
Also, there is an old saying about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves...
To do what with?
to kill Elijah Wood, but good...
Love or hate it, once it starts it will never stop. In ten years, we will look at games like doom and quake, and marvel not at their primitive graphics, but their lack of ads.
I just hope that devs aren't fucking idiots, and forget that the ad servers that they are querying for the latest ads might someday not be there..
What happens when we quadruple the number of subscribers with mobile broadband on their laptops or netbooks?'
You sell the service providers more spectrum, you dumbass...
how much are they paying this guy for be the head of the FCC, because it's too much.
One of the BB posts, noted that falsely issuing DMCA notices might be construed as abuse of process. If any real lawyers are lurking out there, could this be used as a counter tactic? What is the likely hood that you could make such a charge stick to the plantif or their counsel?
They would probably do the attorneys for free.
This is a common misconception. Actually they charge extra, because of all the hawthorn bullets and garlic they have to use.
If the patent is blatantly illegitimate and is easy to prove it should be invalid then the lawyers are actually breaking the law.
Yeah, but any lawyer that is worth their salt would be able to argue that it is their honest opinion that there is factual basis for the claim. After all, if there wasn't dissent about the validity of the claim, it would be settled out of court.
The basic concept of patents is you share your discovery/insight with society at large, and in return you recieve a short term monopoly. Society is advanced by your knowledge, you are rewarded. Good for both parties.
I would not object to software patents if they actually provided the complete functional source code in the patent. You want a patent, you provide full disclosure.
I always though that communication with alien life forms would be *far* more difficult that we expect.
we cannot even communicate with insects, which would have a far simpler language than a sentient alien.