Since Solaris 10 defaults to Xorg on x86 machines, most video cards with open source drivers are now supported.
Wasn't there still some problem like the DRI DRM not being ported or something? This didn't work for me when I tried a few months back. I'll certainly be trying again soon though.:)
If Linux were to dissapear the userbase of the FOSS community would drop to such a low level
Of course it would. That's why it started at a user base of 0, and ballooned into todays numbers. Let me know if I should quit this week or next. Dumb ass.
Well you've completely missed the point then. The users of Linux didn't come first, the developers did.
The whole situation would end up like the BeOS did.
End up like BeOS did? Look ahead a few Slashdot headlines into the future, BeOS lives on... BeOS is proprietary software that somehow still manages to keep a small community of dedicated users/developers. Linux is free/open software comprised of many many different components which the copyright is spread across thousands of contributors. Even if our theoretical situation of Linux AND Sun disappearing were possible, Linux would still live on in some form because its code is GPL and forkable. Also the authors who hold the copyright can license it under any other license they see fit to release it under if the GPL were to disappear.
Who came first, the users or the developers? It was developers who created GNU, it was developers who created Linux, it was developers that created GTK+, it was developers that created GNOME, and it is developers that port the software to other architectures, and operating systems.
By your logic none of this could have happened without the users being there to hound them to do it.
How many people do you think would continue using Gnome or KDE if Linux were to dissapear overnight?
Who are you kidding? If Linux was gone, what do you think most "Linux developers" would switch to? BSD or Solaris probably. I use the term Linux developers loosely, because as of yet, Linux kernel developers cannot contribute to the Solaris kernel, and may never be able to port drivers from Linux to Solaris depending on the licensing Sun uses. Gnome however comes with Solaris 10, and many Sun employees contribute to it.
To want to see it discredited seems just a touch bizarre to my mind.
I like Linux very much. When people talk about things like Gnome and KDE being synonymous with "Linux" though, I don't think that does justice to the open source community. If Linux were to disappear over night, it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. The perception out there is that it would, and I don't think it's unfair to recognize that. It's not anyone involved in the Linux kernel's development that perpetuates these myths, so when I say it could do with some discrediting, I don't mean them any disrespect.
They could maybe supply a sort of buggy half crippled userspace linux with a view to discrediting linux.
The best thing I could imagine coming out of this hiring would be a port of portage to Windows, so that Windows users could build packages from the Portage tree using mingw, cygwin, or even the MS compiler, it's free as in beer and I don't think the GPL forbids it. More open source source users would be a good thing. I think Linux could do with a bit of discrediting. Most of what people think of as Linux, isn't Linux at all. Being able to run that software on as many kernels as possible is a very good thing IMHO.
simply being a gray screen if you attempted to "maximize" the blender window
I'm using Blender in Linux, and I've noticed a similar bug that crept in a few versions back. In full screen mode, I usually resize the window manually with ALT-MMB (I think its ALT-RMB or something silly in KDE) so that I can see my panel, and switch to another desktop quickly. I've noticed that if I'm off by one pixel, so that the top left corner of the blender window is offscreen then the blender interface isn't drawn properly, and looks like this (the top image is the correct image, and the lower one is after resizing the window one more pixel to the left). If OS X has some key combo to force the screen to resize, maybe you could experiment with that. I haven't upgraded to 2.37 yet either, maybe its gone now.
In linux my mouse works without any fuss, my tv card also works great with the bttv and I only need to seelect the tuner type in a config file.
All-In-Wonder cards also work out of the box with the Xorg-6.9.x prerelease snapshots. Its been a long time coming, but Gatos is finally merged, and working well. Hoorah for Xorg.:)
Note to Gentoo users: You'll find the prelease snapshots in Portage already. If you're using ~x86, you probably already have one installed.
We're not all God in the sense that none of use are all knowing or all powerful, and we are all subject to the laws of cause and effect.
The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing, only the mind knows what they are both doing. Apples are not the tree, but they are as much part of the tree as the leaves, or the branches. Its in this way that we are all God I think.
We are subject to the laws of cause and effect, but what those laws are isn't clear. If those laws are a construct of our own mind, then there exists the possibility that coming to believe you are capable of something makes it so.
Reincarnation was only grafted on to Buddhism in order to get Hindus to accept it more readily
That is your opinion. Reincarnation is one interpretation of what Samsara is. Many Buddhists believe in it, many don't. It doesn't really matter if it literally means reincarnation or not I don't think. I find it helpful to rationalize what we call "instinct", to believe that there is a soul of some kind of which some part persists between incarnations.
I find the whole "we're all gods" buddhism definition to be misleading.
Not Gods. God. The idea is we are a manifestation of the same, not individual gods.
Christians at least all believe in one god, in Jesus, ten commandments, etc. Christianity relies on texts, and that tends to limit belief creep.
That view doesn't conflict with Buddhism though. From the perspective of Buddhism, its very likely that Jesus was the Buddha known as Siddhartha Gautama. Buddhists believe that the teachings of the Buddha are self evident, and you don't need any text because you already know the answers.
One of the fundamental teachings of The Buddha was that we are all God. That the differences that we see between each other are all just part of the delusional mind. But nobody goes to Hell. They just get born into a lower life the next time around, which makes it much harder to become Buddha.
code generation is good for repetitive stuff especially if your language doesn't have much in the way of a built in preprocessor
There's a fair bit of repetitive code in the kernel. I had to do some hacking to make some RS-422 cards we had work properly, and found that a lot of the char drivers especially contain very similar code, and structure. Code generation might help with older drivers that nobody cares about until they break. They tend to rot from the looks of things.
well i was told it was an insult (to him) to spell it that way
I see. So you're not so much ignorant, as just immature. Gotcha.
your religious talk shows your true colors.
My religious talk? I didn't say anything other than point out the hypocrisy of your president claiming to be a follower of Jesus Christ, and simultaneously being a war monger, proponent of capital punishment, and avid sport hunter. I am not of any particular religion. If I had to choose one, it would probably be Buddhism or some form of it. I don't have a religious agenda. I'm not offended by Christians. I am however offended by people taking advantage of Christians. Which true colours did I show?
Who says it isn't in the US's best interest?
Lots of people. Your economy is a mess. The terrorism that is being conducted by the U.S. government is much worse than the terrorism that occurred on 9/11. It occurs daily in the form of threat levels, and press releases. But also that many more civilians have been killed by the U.S. in Iraq than were killed in the twin towers. The U.S. is a country that watched 9/11 on TV. Iraq is a country where everyone knows someone killed by the Americans. 9/11 was over after a few hours. The Iraq conflict will drag on and on for decades. Now you've got Al Queda to deal with still, as well as a whole lot of pissed off Iraqis who watched their country get destroyed by a country patting itself on the back for liberating them. You invade the country, and refer to the people of Iraq as insurgents. It's lunacy. What are you going to do about it when they elect leaders that hate you anyway?
Didn't you pay attention when the "proof" was being presented
It's on record, and most of it is complete bullshit. That's why there was almost no support for the invasion, and no WMD have been found, or any evidence that they had anything like it since 1991.
Of course something has to happen if we want another country to behave differently then they are. let me know i'm interested on how to do it without looking like a bully.
Sovereign nations are not subject to the will of U.S. elected representatives. They have their own laws, and act according to them. The governments of those countries are accountable to its citizens, because they are the ones who give it legitimacy. The U.S. must deal with reality, not ideals or what it believes to be ideal. The answer to your question is that you don't get involved in the politics of other nations. It's none of your business until someone declares war on you, or asks for your help or whatever.
well last i checked isreal isn't the largest recipient of foreign aid
Well check again, because they are and have been for a long time. It's very hard to check from official White House documents though, because the U.S. government only lists foreign aid to "The Middle East" as about 60% of the total, and don't mention that well over half of that goes to Israel. And no, last years "contribution" to Iraq doesn't count. If you break it, you bought it. You owe those people, that's not aid it's reparations.
you will see that we are in support of a renewed palistine state. This is a little different then 20 years ago
Well that's mighty big of you to finally come around considering the Palestinians were there first, and Israel continues to add settlements in Palestinian territory.
I'll give you a hint. There was a cold war going on... complying with US laws
And much nicer. I replaced my LCD with a used Nokia 445Xi Plus 21" CRT that I picked up used for $150 CDN. It's by far my most beloved piece of hardware on my system. The LCD makes a great second head for viewing docs or whatever, but I find it almost unusable for everything else after getting used to this behemoth.
If you brush your teeth compulsively then it probably is. If you do it so often that your gums are damaged then it probably is. Addicts know they are addicted to whatever their crutch is. I'm highly addicted to coffee, which I used to think was just daily routine. Then I tried to go a few days without it.
You may not be addicted to brushing your teeth, but I'm almost certain there is someone out there somewhere with exactly that problem. You can get addicted to anything, but most times we just call those people 'compulsive', rather than 'addicted'.
I do not trust a marketing company when it comes to identifying possibile addictions
You don't think it's possible to be addicted to email? Call it lack of will power, call it addiction, call it whatever you want. I'm sure there are people out there that this is a problem for.
Call me crazy
You're crazy.
I do not trust a slashbot when it comes to ruling out possible addictions.
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Since Solaris 10 defaults to Xorg on x86 machines, most video cards with open source drivers are now supported.
:)
Wasn't there still some problem like the DRI DRM not being ported or something? This didn't work for me when I tried a few months back. I'll certainly be trying again soon though.
If Linux were to dissapear the userbase of the FOSS community would drop to such a low level
Of course it would. That's why it started at a user base of 0, and ballooned into todays numbers. Let me know if I should quit this week or next. Dumb ass.
So it isn't acceptable to talk about Blender bugs elsewhere now?
Knock yourself out.
Well you've completely missed the point then. The users of Linux didn't come first, the developers did.
The whole situation would end up like the BeOS did.
End up like BeOS did? Look ahead a few Slashdot headlines into the future, BeOS lives on... BeOS is proprietary software that somehow still manages to keep a small community of dedicated users/developers. Linux is free/open software comprised of many many different components which the copyright is spread across thousands of contributors. Even if our theoretical situation of Linux AND Sun disappearing were possible, Linux would still live on in some form because its code is GPL and forkable. Also the authors who hold the copyright can license it under any other license they see fit to release it under if the GPL were to disappear.
Who came first, the users or the developers? It was developers who created GNU, it was developers who created Linux, it was developers that created GTK+, it was developers that created GNOME, and it is developers that port the software to other architectures, and operating systems.
By your logic none of this could have happened without the users being there to hound them to do it.
At some point Sun may go under. If Linux were already gone what then?
BSD, Darwin, OS X, HURD, Inferno, OpenServer, Unixware, Haiku OS, OpenSolaris (If/when it happens), Windows...
It doesn't matter, that's my point. The community exists now, and it will rebuild the kernel from scratch if it has to.
How many people do you think would continue using Gnome or KDE if Linux were to dissapear overnight?
Who are you kidding? If Linux was gone, what do you think most "Linux developers" would switch to? BSD or Solaris probably. I use the term Linux developers loosely, because as of yet, Linux kernel developers cannot contribute to the Solaris kernel, and may never be able to port drivers from Linux to Solaris depending on the licensing Sun uses. Gnome however comes with Solaris 10, and many Sun employees contribute to it.
To want to see it discredited seems just a touch bizarre to my mind.
I like Linux very much. When people talk about things like Gnome and KDE being synonymous with "Linux" though, I don't think that does justice to the open source community. If Linux were to disappear over night, it wouldn't be the end of the world for us. The perception out there is that it would, and I don't think it's unfair to recognize that. It's not anyone involved in the Linux kernel's development that perpetuates these myths, so when I say it could do with some discrediting, I don't mean them any disrespect.
Mandatory link.
They could maybe supply a sort of buggy half crippled userspace linux with a view to discrediting linux.
The best thing I could imagine coming out of this hiring would be a port of portage to Windows, so that Windows users could build packages from the Portage tree using mingw, cygwin, or even the MS compiler, it's free as in beer and I don't think the GPL forbids it. More open source source users would be a good thing. I think Linux could do with a bit of discrediting. Most of what people think of as Linux, isn't Linux at all. Being able to run that software on as many kernels as possible is a very good thing IMHO.
simply being a gray screen if you attempted to "maximize" the blender window
I'm using Blender in Linux, and I've noticed a similar bug that crept in a few versions back. In full screen mode, I usually resize the window manually with ALT-MMB (I think its ALT-RMB or something silly in KDE) so that I can see my panel, and switch to another desktop quickly. I've noticed that if I'm off by one pixel, so that the top left corner of the blender window is offscreen then the blender interface isn't drawn properly, and looks like this (the top image is the correct image, and the lower one is after resizing the window one more pixel to the left). If OS X has some key combo to force the screen to resize, maybe you could experiment with that. I haven't upgraded to 2.37 yet either, maybe its gone now.
In linux my mouse works without any fuss, my tv card also works great with the bttv and I only need to seelect the tuner type in a config file.
:)
All-In-Wonder cards also work out of the box with the Xorg-6.9.x prerelease snapshots. Its been a long time coming, but Gatos is finally merged, and working well. Hoorah for Xorg.
Note to Gentoo users: You'll find the prelease snapshots in Portage already. If you're using ~x86, you probably already have one installed.
We're not all God in the sense that none of use are all knowing or all powerful, and we are all subject to the laws of cause and effect.
The left hand doesn't know what the right is doing, only the mind knows what they are both doing. Apples are not the tree, but they are as much part of the tree as the leaves, or the branches. Its in this way that we are all God I think.
We are subject to the laws of cause and effect, but what those laws are isn't clear. If those laws are a construct of our own mind, then there exists the possibility that coming to believe you are capable of something makes it so.
Reincarnation was only grafted on to Buddhism in order to get Hindus to accept it more readily
That is your opinion. Reincarnation is one interpretation of what Samsara is. Many Buddhists believe in it, many don't. It doesn't really matter if it literally means reincarnation or not I don't think. I find it helpful to rationalize what we call "instinct", to believe that there is a soul of some kind of which some part persists between incarnations.
I find the whole "we're all gods" buddhism definition to be misleading.
Not Gods. God. The idea is we are a manifestation of the same, not individual gods.
Christians at least all believe in one god, in Jesus, ten commandments, etc. Christianity relies on texts, and that tends to limit belief creep.
That view doesn't conflict with Buddhism though. From the perspective of Buddhism, its very likely that Jesus was the Buddha known as Siddhartha Gautama. Buddhists believe that the teachings of the Buddha are self evident, and you don't need any text because you already know the answers.
And why are video games not considered to be "real use"
Because the successful ones prevent you from getting any "real work" done.
Buddhism doesn't even have a god
One of the fundamental teachings of The Buddha was that we are all God. That the differences that we see between each other are all just part of the delusional mind. But nobody goes to Hell. They just get born into a lower life the next time around, which makes it much harder to become Buddha.
At least if my understanding is correct anyway.
You do realize ebola has only ever killed, like, 800 people?
Strange how cigarettes do kill millions, and we can't find a cure for them yet.
Strawberry flavoured Ebola would be a big hit I think.
code generation is good for repetitive stuff especially if your language doesn't have much in the way of a built in preprocessor
There's a fair bit of repetitive code in the kernel. I had to do some hacking to make some RS-422 cards we had work properly, and found that a lot of the char drivers especially contain very similar code, and structure. Code generation might help with older drivers that nobody cares about until they break. They tend to rot from the looks of things.
Actually, that could be done, could it not?
:)
Apparently it works for Samba.
I see. So you're not so much ignorant, as just immature. Gotcha.
My religious talk? I didn't say anything other than point out the hypocrisy of your president claiming to be a follower of Jesus Christ, and simultaneously being a war monger, proponent of capital punishment, and avid sport hunter. I am not of any particular religion. If I had to choose one, it would probably be Buddhism or some form of it. I don't have a religious agenda. I'm not offended by Christians. I am however offended by people taking advantage of Christians. Which true colours did I show?
Lots of people. Your economy is a mess. The terrorism that is being conducted by the U.S. government is much worse than the terrorism that occurred on 9/11. It occurs daily in the form of threat levels, and press releases. But also that many more civilians have been killed by the U.S. in Iraq than were killed in the twin towers. The U.S. is a country that watched 9/11 on TV. Iraq is a country where everyone knows someone killed by the Americans. 9/11 was over after a few hours. The Iraq conflict will drag on and on for decades. Now you've got Al Queda to deal with still, as well as a whole lot of pissed off Iraqis who watched their country get destroyed by a country patting itself on the back for liberating them. You invade the country, and refer to the people of Iraq as insurgents. It's lunacy. What are you going to do about it when they elect leaders that hate you anyway?
It's on record, and most of it is complete bullshit. That's why there was almost no support for the invasion, and no WMD have been found, or any evidence that they had anything like it since 1991.
Sovereign nations are not subject to the will of U.S. elected representatives. They have their own laws, and act according to them. The governments of those countries are accountable to its citizens, because they are the ones who give it legitimacy. The U.S. must deal with reality, not ideals or what it believes to be ideal. The answer to your question is that you don't get involved in the politics of other nations. It's none of your business until someone declares war on you, or asks for your help or whatever.
Well check again, because they are and have been for a long time. It's very hard to check from official White House documents though, because the U.S. government only lists foreign aid to "The Middle East" as about 60% of the total, and don't mention that well over half of that goes to Israel. And no, last years "contribution" to Iraq doesn't count. If you break it, you bought it. You owe those people, that's not aid it's reparations.
Well that's mighty big of you to finally come around considering the Palestinians were there first, and Israel continues to add settlements in Palestinian territory.
"During the 2000 race, Bush's team quelled the allegations by stating that Bush had not used illegal drugs in the past 25 years."
So there. Former crackhead.
Come on guys.. At least run a spell checker on this shit first. I'm sure they'll be patenting their patent application generator next.
so it's no longer "My computer"?
;)
Shameful how they have to copy their ideas from Gnome isn't it?
And much nicer. I replaced my LCD with a used Nokia 445Xi Plus 21" CRT that I picked up used for $150 CDN. It's by far my most beloved piece of hardware on my system. The LCD makes a great second head for viewing docs or whatever, but I find it almost unusable for everything else after getting used to this behemoth.
If you brush your teeth compulsively then it probably is. If you do it so often that your gums are damaged then it probably is. Addicts know they are addicted to whatever their crutch is. I'm highly addicted to coffee, which I used to think was just daily routine. Then I tried to go a few days without it.
You may not be addicted to brushing your teeth, but I'm almost certain there is someone out there somewhere with exactly that problem. You can get addicted to anything, but most times we just call those people 'compulsive', rather than 'addicted'.
You don't think it's possible to be addicted to email? Call it lack of will power, call it addiction, call it whatever you want. I'm sure there are people out there that this is a problem for.
You're crazy.
I do not trust a slashbot when it comes to ruling out possible addictions.