Have ANY slashdot readers read any disclaimers/agreements until now? The novelty is that this disclaimer is EXTREMELY LONG, not that the content is unusual.
All web site disclaimers say the company can change the text as they please (but some say without notification/notice and some say they will notify you by 30 days.)
All agreements say if one part is invalid, the rest is still valid.
All agreements say you are responsible for taxes and anything that happens to you from using their services.
This format is designed to write only one way at a time, so the real purpose of dual abilities is for the future when one of these goes down the drain like BetaMax:)
Thanks for supporting me (although supporting me under 'Anonymous Coward' sort of lowers credibility.:) ) The truth is, even many Microsoft lovers bash VB, let alone Linux-zealots.:)
Here is an interesting spark for a topic on 'Ask Slashdot?'
Computer Science is one of the most popular fields of study and research nationally.
That's scary! I know that at a pretty good CS school like Umass Amherst, only about 30 or 60 students receive a Bachelors Degree in CS a year! And that MANY students choose CS and MOST change their major after the first year. But if there are so many students majoring, is CS devalued now? Is the pay worse, the jobs less, too much work for pay? If you or someone you know started as CS and switched, why did you switch, to what did you switch, and what is your stage in your life right now, having taken the path to switch?
VB was a very bad choice, in my opinion, for this.
and
The user interface was too complex and we had far too many lines of code.
Excuse me, but languages don't make bad interfaces, people do. Languages don't force you to write far too many lines of code, people do. They key with visual basic is to treat the interface part of the application SEPARATE from the code. Keep the actual code in modules... Much code, many modules (just like C++ or Java). Or if you want, use classes (just like C++ or Java), except remember that classes in VB before VB.NET couldn't do the fancy pancy. You should probably pretty much have just ONE LINE in your Form_Load()s, Button_Click(), etc.--a Call User_Did_This() to a sub in the appropriate module. Let the right functions do the tricks, and you won't have "far too many lines of code." (Of course, it is very tempting in ALL languages to mix and match things between modules to make them "fit", thus making modular subs not entirely modular.;) As for interfaces, it's not VB that's the problem. Search for "interface" in slashdot's topics, they have done many a-Ask Slashdot for creating GUI's.
But anyway, if you write in Visual Basic like it's a real language, you'll get real stuff. If you write in Visual Basic like a Business Major might--don't comment, don't plan ahead, don't have a design plan, don't be modular, don't stick to your design plan once you do have it, you get the picture;)--then it will fail. Treat VB like a hyperdevelopment process for prototyping (as in, jumbled code just to see a button display a MsgBox "IT WORKS!"), and it will fail. Instead, remember programming is more than word-processing, there's a design plan and problem solving involved, and you will hopefully succeed....
That is, until Microsoft Gouls and Goblins change the COMPLETE LANGUAGE SPECIFICATION for the next (current) version of VB (VB.NET), and your code isn't compatible anymore! Look who's laughing, now!:) You want to convert old code to VB.NET spec? Much a re-write, and the conversion tool is only available in Visual STUDIO.NET Professional and above (even though it's for VB), and won't change all MUHAHAHA!;) HAPPY HALLOWEEEN!
As I understand, they are live before, but of course don't change afterward, unless the bet is still open.. Is the bet still open?
I've seen a betting site, a chess one for Kramnik versus Deep Fritz. They had odds listed for each person to view before they could place their bets. This is a web site, so it's not unusual for there to be live updates. Most people betting on Fritz? Okay, so if I bet the same $1 dollar on Kramnik and win, my take would be larger than if I won with $1 dollar on Fritz (as I understand.) I can see how live updates could work, allowing gamblers to 'set' their risk.
However, do they have live odds updates on location in race tracks? Remembering old movies, I thought no... but now with the internet accessible everywhere, it must be easily possible if it's possible online (same exact thing.)
Does anybody know if it's true that odds are live on real race tracks (betting on location), and how did they use to do it before the internet (like in Rocky 1 - 17 and earlier boxing movies?)
All they will try do is pick up a cube by working together somehow. A handshake in terms of what we know a handshake to be might not exactly happen. Two scientists -- one in London and one in Boston -- will try to pick up a cube between them and move it, each responding to the force the other exerts on it.
(...) The implications of the experiment could be vast, said UCL, which describes the event as the world's "first transatlantic handshake over the Internet."
Yes, half the slashdot population could indeed be using a browser that is not IE. However, 99% are not, so making DHTML compatible for other browsers should be the least of a web developer's concerns. Content and navigation should come first.
I agree. I guess DHTML and JavaScript have excellent tools for intranets, for instance for services like accessing Novell GropWise through the web browser. I think you're right, that there are good uses for DHTML.
I don't mind useful applications, but it seems that the internet is more annoying now it was in 1996 and DHTML is one of the reasons no doubt. It does have good purposes, but no thank you 99% of the time, when I'm accessing the internet and not intranets.:)
Thank you to people who enlightened us all about intranet usefulness. I posted my opinion, it went to 4, Interesting, and generated a few explanations of how DHTML is useful. Now that my perspective had a counterpoint, my moderation quickly went down to zero. I ask, are we not all enlightened from the discussion that took place? How can something that entices useful information be devalued once moderators judge that a 'better' opinion appears, all stemming from this? And flamebait, of all things...
And the point is, this book doesn't have much market because for the tasks 99.99% of web developers would have use for, they could just study the source code of other web sites.
The only people who should read an advanced book like this would be people trying to develop more-complex DHTML floating ads.
And that is why there is going to be little market for this book.
First off, the article misleads you into believing that there are only four or five web browsers. The truth is, there is only one--Internet Explorer.
Secondly, there's almost no reason for any web designers to know DHTML because they should be making web sites easily accessible and easy to navigate, of course with content and information, instead of worrying about making a graphic float and fly around the screen.
The only people who could really use this book are bastards who design webvertisements. Yesterday, a huge thing of an Army ad would pop up on every clicked link, major or not, on Comedy Central's web site. It was obviously done with DHTML.
And, the only other people who would support this are the big web sites who want to feed us advertisements. 99.999% of web sites that don't use DHTML for advertisements probably use DTHML solely for layering columns and what not on the screen... a task which could be done almost as effectively using simple, old-fashioned tables.
Javascripts brought hell, and dhtml is mostly used for advertisements. There wasn't much wrong with the internet when IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 were around, few pop-ups, few DHTML ads. Web sites don't need to be so friggin pretty (some are outright confustigating.) Although there are uses for javascript, there's absolutely no need for DHTML. 99.9999% of people wouldn't miss it if it were gone, and at least half would be HAPPY not to see those ads.
So, why promote a book to educate the internet ad designers to give us hell? If the author knows so much about DHTML, he is probably one of those ad designers himself:)
Lets use (next to) slave labour in a communist contry!
Lets remember the democratic republic of the United States used actual slave labour for many years. I'm glad you said next to slave labour in a communist country, because when we had the same thing here, we didn't pay ANYTHING to the slaves. Therefore, we could definitely be seen as a THIRD-WORLD country OURSELVES by communist and former communist countries like Russia and China, because at least in Russia and China, forcing people to work for free is barbarian. Therefore, I don't see how you got modded up for saying something ignorant like that.
Slashdot's IP is 832.796.835.918 . Since it hasn't changed from this in the time that I've had the link to it in my sig ( about a month. ), we can safely conclude that IPs don't change because slashdot is a good cross-section of the internet, and poor logic like this is frequently rewarded wit' da K-! PointZz.;)
You're right:) I guess I was just too busy writing a 100 word sentence (to do something different) to notice that I happened to use a word (in my excellent! reply) that was, instead of being correctly used, one of the words from the parent of that post that really didn't fit and shouldn't have been used--as you say here--because what I really meant was an explanation, not an analogy (although, you did make the same mistake when you said "argument" instead of "analogy" in your own first sentence.)
BTW this is news LONDON, England -- A woman injured while squeezed next to an obese passenger on a trans-Atlantic flight has been given £13,000 ($20,000) by the airline.
I saw a show, I think it was COPS. They were showing, a one handed, female, police, officer, doing her job. She, had to go, arrest, people with her partner, and, the people she would be arresting, would actually calm down, after seeing her stub (her arm ended right before the elbow.) The person she was arresting, stopped fuming, and started asking her questions, and, getting answers ("How long have you had that"--"All my life.") She said, that's how other people behaved, too.
Or, maybe, she was an E.M.T. I don't remember, now.
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That same content was previously a duplicate article... meaning that it's the third time here that I know of.
As in, on Slashdot at least 3 times in a short time.
I've never thought of that! But your laptop will still be the same region as where you bought it (and set it to.)
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Have ANY slashdot readers read any disclaimers/agreements until now? The novelty is that this disclaimer is EXTREMELY LONG, not that the content is unusual.
All web site disclaimers say the company can change the text as they please (but some say without notification/notice and some say they will notify you by 30 days.)
All agreements say if one part is invalid, the rest is still valid.
All agreements say you are responsible for taxes and anything that happens to you from using their services.
A Mobile P4 1.4Ghz to 2.0 Ghz will run at 1.20Ghz unplugged
:)
:)
:)
Somehow I doubt we will see great progress in the future with 2.0Ghz unplugged until maybe 2004.
If your laptop is used on a plane or outdoors half the time, consider buying a 1.4Ghz instead of 2.0Ghz
And for PIII, 850, 900, and 1.0Ghz run at 750mhz unplugged. Same exact performance!
first :)
:)
This format is designed to write only one way at a time, so the real purpose of dual abilities is for the future when one of these goes down the drain like BetaMax
Thanks for supporting me (although supporting me under 'Anonymous Coward' sort of lowers credibility. :) ) The truth is, even many Microsoft lovers bash VB, let alone Linux-zealots. :)
Here is an interesting spark for a topic on 'Ask Slashdot?'
Computer Science is one of the most popular fields of study and research nationally.
That's scary! I know that at a pretty good CS school like Umass Amherst, only about 30 or 60 students receive a Bachelors Degree in CS a year! And that MANY students choose CS and MOST change their major after the first year. But if there are so many students majoring, is CS devalued now? Is the pay worse, the jobs less, too much work for pay? If you or someone you know started as CS and switched, why did you switch, to what did you switch, and what is your stage in your life right now, having taken the path to switch?
VB was a very bad choice, in my opinion, for this.
;)--then it will fail. Treat VB like a hyperdevelopment process for prototyping (as in, jumbled code just to see a button display a MsgBox "IT WORKS!"), and it will fail.
:) You want to convert old code to VB.NET spec? Much a re-write, and the conversion tool is only available in Visual STUDIO.NET Professional and above (even though it's for VB), and won't change all MUHAHAHA! ;) HAPPY HALLOWEEEN!
and
The user interface was too complex and we had far too many lines of code.
Excuse me, but languages don't make bad interfaces, people do. Languages don't force you to write far too many lines of code, people do.
They key with visual basic is to treat the interface part of the application SEPARATE from the code. Keep the actual code in modules... Much code, many modules (just like C++ or Java). Or if you want, use classes (just like C++ or Java), except remember that classes in VB before VB.NET couldn't do the fancy pancy. You should probably pretty much have just ONE LINE in your Form_Load()s, Button_Click(), etc.--a Call User_Did_This() to a sub in the appropriate module. Let the right functions do the tricks, and you won't have "far too many lines of code." (Of course, it is very tempting in ALL languages to mix and match things between modules to make them "fit", thus making modular subs not entirely modular.;)
As for interfaces, it's not VB that's the problem. Search for "interface" in slashdot's topics, they have done many a-Ask Slashdot for creating GUI's.
But anyway, if you write in Visual Basic like it's a real language, you'll get real stuff. If you write in Visual Basic like a Business Major might--don't comment, don't plan ahead, don't have a design plan, don't be modular, don't stick to your design plan once you do have it, you get the picture
Instead, remember programming is more than word-processing, there's a design plan and problem solving involved, and you will hopefully succeed....
That is, until Microsoft Gouls and Goblins change the COMPLETE LANGUAGE SPECIFICATION for the next (current) version of VB (VB.NET), and your code isn't compatible anymore! Look who's laughing, now!
As I understand, they are live before, but of course don't change afterward, unless the bet is still open.. Is the bet still open?
I've seen a betting site, a chess one for Kramnik
versus Deep Fritz. They had odds listed for each person to view before they could place their bets. This is a web site, so it's not unusual for there to be live updates. Most people betting on Fritz? Okay, so if I bet the same $1 dollar on Kramnik and win, my take would be larger than if I won with $1 dollar on Fritz (as I understand.) I can see how live updates could work, allowing gamblers to 'set' their risk.
However, do they have live odds updates on location in race tracks? Remembering old movies, I thought no... but now with the internet accessible everywhere, it must be easily possible if it's possible online (same exact thing.)
Does anybody know if it's true that odds are live on real race tracks (betting on location), and how did they use to do it before the internet (like in Rocky 1 - 17 and earlier boxing movies?)
Yes! Soon you will see ads... for the X10". (inch.)
All they will try do is pick up a cube by working together somehow. A handshake in terms of what we know a handshake to be might not exactly happen.
Two scientists -- one in London and one in Boston -- will try to pick up a cube between them and move it, each responding to the force the other exerts on it.
(...)
The implications of the experiment could be vast, said UCL, which describes the event as the world's "first transatlantic handshake over the Internet."
If successful, it could allow people to touch and feel each other over the Internet.
This story broke on Howard Stern this morning. I will leave 'figuring out what kind of discussion it was' as an exercise to the reader.
Hint: _orn
Yes, half the slashdot population could indeed be using a browser that is not IE. However, 99% are not, so making DHTML compatible for other browsers should be the least of a web developer's concerns. Content and navigation should come first.
:)
I agree. I guess DHTML and JavaScript have excellent tools for intranets, for instance for services like accessing Novell GropWise through the web browser. I think you're right, that there are good uses for DHTML.
I don't mind useful applications, but it seems that the internet is more annoying now it was in 1996 and DHTML is one of the reasons no doubt. It does have good purposes, but no thank you 99% of the time, when I'm accessing the internet and not intranets.
Thank you to people who enlightened us all about intranet usefulness. I posted my opinion, it went to 4, Interesting, and generated a few explanations of how DHTML is useful. Now that my perspective had a counterpoint, my moderation quickly went down to zero. I ask, are we not all enlightened from the discussion that took place? How can something that entices useful information be devalued once moderators judge that a 'better' opinion appears, all stemming from this? And flamebait, of all things...
And the point is, this book doesn't have much market because for the tasks 99.99% of web developers would have use for, they could just study the source code of other web sites. The only people who should read an advanced book like this would be people trying to develop more-complex DHTML floating ads. And that is why there is going to be little market for this book.
First off, the article misleads you into believing that there are only four or five web browsers. The truth is, there is only one--Internet Explorer.
:)
Secondly, there's almost no reason for any web designers to know DHTML because they should be making web sites easily accessible and easy to navigate, of course with content and information, instead of worrying about making a graphic float and fly around the screen.
The only people who could really use this book are bastards who design webvertisements. Yesterday, a huge thing of an Army ad would pop up on every clicked link, major or not, on Comedy Central's web site. It was obviously done with DHTML.
And, the only other people who would support this are the big web sites who want to feed us advertisements. 99.999% of web sites that don't use DHTML for advertisements probably use DTHML solely for layering columns and what not on the screen... a task which could be done almost as effectively using simple, old-fashioned tables.
Javascripts brought hell, and dhtml is mostly used for advertisements. There wasn't much wrong with the internet when IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 were around, few pop-ups, few DHTML ads. Web sites don't need to be so friggin pretty (some are outright confustigating.) Although there are uses for javascript, there's absolutely no need for DHTML. 99.9999% of people wouldn't miss it if it were gone, and at least half would be HAPPY not to see those ads.
So, why promote a book to educate the internet ad designers to give us hell? If the author knows so much about DHTML, he is probably one of those ad designers himself
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Lets use (next to) slave labour in a communist contry!
Lets remember the democratic republic of the United States used actual slave labour for many years. I'm glad you said next to slave labour in a communist country, because when we had the same thing here, we didn't pay ANYTHING to the slaves. Therefore, we could definitely be seen as a THIRD-WORLD country OURSELVES by communist and former communist countries like Russia and China, because at least in Russia and China, forcing people to work for free is barbarian. Therefore, I don't see how you got modded up for saying something ignorant like that.
Slashdot's IP is 832.796.835.918 . Since it hasn't changed from this in the time that I've had the link to it in my sig ( about a month. ), we can safely conclude that IPs don't change because slashdot is a good cross-section of the internet, and poor logic like this is frequently rewarded wit' da K-! PointZz. ;)
+5 Insightful
See sig below.
You're right :) I guess I was just too busy writing a 100 word sentence (to do something different) to notice that I happened to use a word (in my excellent! reply) that was, instead of being correctly used, one of the words from the parent of that post that really didn't fit and shouldn't have been used--as you say here--because what I really meant was an explanation, not an analogy (although, you did make the same mistake when you said "argument" instead of "analogy" in your own first sentence.)
BTW this is news
LONDON, England -- A woman injured while squeezed next to an obese passenger on a trans-Atlantic flight has been given £13,000 ($20,000) by the airline.
I saw a show, I think it was COPS. They were showing, a one handed, female, police, officer, doing her job. She, had to go, arrest, people with her partner, and, the people she would be arresting, would actually calm down, after seeing her stub (her arm ended right before the elbow.) The person she was arresting, stopped fuming, and started asking her questions, and, getting answers ("How long have you had that"--"All my life.") She said, that's how other people behaved, too.
Or, maybe, she was an E.M.T. I don't remember, now.
19 EXTRA COMMAS INSERTED FOR THE COMMA-CHALLENGED.