I'm not sure about Tivo, but I know ReplayTV definitely knows the difference between your PVR recording and replaying. Most of the time, my PVR is off when I am not there. If the unit has to turn itself on, it marks that in the info transfered back durring scheduling updates.
I would agree. But how does one opt-into the Neilson program? I wonder how Neilson recruits folks into their program.
The conspirosy theorist in me would say that the tv networks are likely as trustworthy as the record industry and Sound Scan. Does Neilson ever take any customer contact info from the networks to recruit "family members"? Folks who are more likely to have particular network affiliations (like they seem to watch every prime time Fox show)?
Not knowing a whole lot about the internal process of Neilson, how does one become part of their "Neilson Family"? I'd actually like for my viewing habits to be part of their statistics. Of course, I have a ReplayTV and not a Tivo [I know, Tivo users... Shame on me.;^) ]
The Conspirosy Theorist in me thinks that a network might pay Neilson some change and hand over all of the viewer contact info they get from their more popular shows as folks to ask to be part of the "family".
Seriously, I've never been recruited. Though I'd like to be.
Actually, I know a number of PVR users that make it a point to not watch a show until it is 15 minutes into it so that they can skip the commercials.
I'd rather watch a Southpark or Simpsons episode for those 15 minutes than watch commercials. With my ReplayTV, I still see a glimpse of the commercial (well, at least 4 glimpses, one for each time I press the 30 second skip). There have definitely been times where I have gone back to check out a commercial that cought my eye in that half of a second window each they have to actually market to me.
I really don't feel bad at any lost revenue the networks might feel as no one protects my industry to make sure that I am still compensated for any stale business model I might insist on pursuing.
That's funny. My wife does the same thing with Trading Spaces, along with Sex in the City. Now that we have a small child, Sesame Street and Barney (*shudder*) have been recording regularly. Alnog with my Six Feet Under, Simpsons and the obligitory night time trash tv like 5th Wheel.
Our viewing stats must look quite weird for a 28 year old white male.
I just got a letter from AT&T. They are giving me $5 off total a month becuase I subscribe to both cable and internet. They'll give me another $5 if I get their digital phone service.
I saw that this post made it to the final 10 questions.
I just wanted to say thank you for suggesting The Foundation series. I have been waiting for 15 years for someone to put out a movie based upon my first and absolute favorite SF series.
I couldn't agree with you more. I wish I could somehow give you more mod points!
I work for a company that makes video special effects software. If we do not support the latest hardware acceleration of the more popular video cards, we lose sales to our competition who does.
We don't own a part of any hardware company, but we ARE bundled with many higher end video cards, both consumer level and higher. If we don't support their standards, we aren't bundled and we lose exposure to thousands of potential customers (never mind OEM revenue). We are the text generator in Final Cut Pro. Apple certainly expects us to keep up with ther rest of the market.
AOL gets minimal ad dollars for those within their client. But they use IM to open a small browser window and push Time Warner promotions and content, do their own "Am I hot or Not", local weather, ect. This comes up by default when the client starts though can be turned off. I actually haven't turned it off as sometimes there is something of mindless interest there. And this is with the free client. I don't pay for AOL.
They would lose this marketing tool and tracking me to some extent if they share their standard.
I think if the other im's out there get more of a market share, it would be more likely that all the messenging players start working together.
ok - something that occured to me a few days ago...
Once the infrastructure (or is it extrastructure? but I digress) for bandwidth is there, isn't bandwidth actually free? I mean, I know that there are costs involved with running the network, upkeep of epuiptment, salaries to pay, ect...
But is there really a difference in the cost of providing bandwidth (other than hardware, which is still a fixed cost) if I want a low end ISDN line or an OC3 pipe? I would liken it to cable TV. Somehow I manage to now get digital cable with a few hundred more channels than its anolog predecessor for the same price. The cable company didn't really have to do all that much other than give me a new cable box (which I rent from them).
My phone line has been there for years. Other than a $50 line cleaning kit, what is really the increase in cost for me to get DSL? Other than equiptment that the telco buys to provide DSL. If they buy it to provide access to one user, what is the increase in cost when you add another 300 users? I understand that hubs and routers have physical limitations, but it just seems that we are getting porked.
I might back up the above by comparing it to wireless (cell) phones vs traditional land lines. Don't the cell division make hand over fist compared to the land line division? I mean, they put up a tower that can service thousands of people. No cables (from telco to your phone) and thus significantly less service persons and cost per customer. It makes me wonder if my inflated cost for use of a cell phone (in my opinion) is there to offset the money-sucking land line division... Shouldn't cell phone service be only a small % of the (my) cost of wire-based telephone service in my house?
Hopefully, some of you might be able to give me some insight on the actual difference in costs of providing limited bandwidth vs high capacity bandwidth.
Seems like a giant scam to me.
Of course, I certainly don't want to go back to dial-up. But I would think that the industry's standardization of the costs for these services (at least smacks of some sort of collusion) has set them unreasonably high and thus out of the price range of many consumers.
PC manufacturers have met the need for low cost computing, but what about bandwidth providers who are still giving us the slowest element of our computing architecture.
As digital cameras get bigger and better, I've noticed many using.tif as the file format. Sure it is a much larger file size, but is heads and shoulders above the.jpg format when it come to serious photography.
The PNG format might actually be a substitue when it comes to regular photography as file size is much less important when NOT dealing with the web.
I couldn't be happier that the radio stations will get the same porking that the technophobe music industry has given to webcasters.
See, the radio stations actually have the power to fight this and get some results. Hopefully they won't ba allowed to be an exception. Or the law gets changed.
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I'm not sure about Tivo, but I know ReplayTV definitely knows the difference between your PVR recording and replaying. Most of the time, my PVR is off when I am not there. If the unit has to turn itself on, it marks that in the info transfered back durring scheduling updates.
I would agree. But how does one opt-into the Neilson program? I wonder how Neilson recruits folks into their program.
The conspirosy theorist in me would say that the tv networks are likely as trustworthy as the record industry and Sound Scan. Does Neilson ever take any customer contact info from the networks to recruit "family members"? Folks who are more likely to have particular network affiliations (like they seem to watch every prime time Fox show)?
Not knowing a whole lot about the internal process of Neilson, how does one become part of their "Neilson Family"? I'd actually like for my viewing habits to be part of their statistics. Of course, I have a ReplayTV and not a Tivo [I know, Tivo users... Shame on me. ;^) ]
The Conspirosy Theorist in me thinks that a network might pay Neilson some change and hand over all of the viewer contact info they get from their more popular shows as folks to ask to be part of the "family".
Seriously, I've never been recruited. Though I'd like to be.
Actually, I know a number of PVR users that make it a point to not watch a show until it is 15 minutes into it so that they can skip the commercials.
I'd rather watch a Southpark or Simpsons episode for those 15 minutes than watch commercials. With my ReplayTV, I still see a glimpse of the commercial (well, at least 4 glimpses, one for each time I press the 30 second skip). There have definitely been times where I have gone back to check out a commercial that cought my eye in that half of a second window each they have to actually market to me.
I really don't feel bad at any lost revenue the networks might feel as no one protects my industry to make sure that I am still compensated for any stale business model I might insist on pursuing.
That's funny. My wife does the same thing with Trading Spaces, along with Sex in the City. Now that we have a small child, Sesame Street and Barney (*shudder*) have been recording regularly. Alnog with my Six Feet Under, Simpsons and the obligitory night time trash tv like 5th Wheel.
Our viewing stats must look quite weird for a 28 year old white male.
Actually, its like an American but from the most useless country in the world, save Australia, which is full of criminal genes.
Try exporting something for once.... Oh crap wait.
I get all of my "bud" from BC.
I retract all of the above statements.
I LOVE CANADA!!!
Now if only I could find my pants.
Go Replay TV!!
Nice to see SOMEONE mentiones Replay and not just Tivo. Don't worry Tivo users, I think yours is cool too.
But you don't have My Replay TV
I just got a letter from AT&T. They are giving me $5 off total a month becuase I subscribe to both cable and internet. They'll give me another $5 if I get their digital phone service.
I saw that this post made it to the final 10 questions.
I just wanted to say thank you for suggesting The Foundation series. I have been waiting for 15 years for someone to put out a movie based upon my first and absolute favorite SF series.
I couldn't agree with you more. I wish I could somehow give you more mod points!
I work for a company that makes video special effects software. If we do not support the latest hardware acceleration of the more popular video cards, we lose sales to our competition who does.
We don't own a part of any hardware company, but we ARE bundled with many higher end video cards, both consumer level and higher. If we don't support their standards, we aren't bundled and we lose exposure to thousands of potential customers (never mind OEM revenue). We are the text generator in Final Cut Pro. Apple certainly expects us to keep up with ther rest of the market.
See:
-Enron's memos to shred documents.
-Big Tobacco's memos to market to kids and with hold results that smoking kills you.
Ford announced IT'S biggest competitors were other car manufacturers.
Duh...
Who else makes OSs for PC architecture.
there's part two to the interview.
I am exausted already.
AOL gets minimal ad dollars for those within their client. But they use IM to open a small browser window and push Time Warner promotions and content, do their own "Am I hot or Not", local weather, ect. This comes up by default when the client starts though can be turned off. I actually haven't turned it off as sometimes there is something of mindless interest there. And this is with the free client. I don't pay for AOL.
They would lose this marketing tool and tracking me to some extent if they share their standard.
I think if the other im's out there get more of a market share, it would be more likely that all the messenging players start working together.
ok - something that occured to me a few days ago...
Once the infrastructure (or is it extrastructure? but I digress) for bandwidth is there, isn't bandwidth actually free? I mean, I know that there are costs involved with running the network, upkeep of epuiptment, salaries to pay, ect...
But is there really a difference in the cost of providing bandwidth (other than hardware, which is still a fixed cost) if I want a low end ISDN line or an OC3 pipe? I would liken it to cable TV. Somehow I manage to now get digital cable with a few hundred more channels than its anolog predecessor for the same price. The cable company didn't really have to do all that much other than give me a new cable box (which I rent from them).
My phone line has been there for years. Other than a $50 line cleaning kit, what is really the increase in cost for me to get DSL? Other than equiptment that the telco buys to provide DSL. If they buy it to provide access to one user, what is the increase in cost when you add another 300 users? I understand that hubs and routers have physical limitations, but it just seems that we are getting porked.
I might back up the above by comparing it to wireless (cell) phones vs traditional land lines. Don't the cell division make hand over fist compared to the land line division? I mean, they put up a tower that can service thousands of people. No cables (from telco to your phone) and thus significantly less service persons and cost per customer. It makes me wonder if my inflated cost for use of a cell phone (in my opinion) is there to offset the money-sucking land line division... Shouldn't cell phone service be only a small % of the (my) cost of wire-based telephone service in my house?
Hopefully, some of you might be able to give me some insight on the actual difference in costs of providing limited bandwidth vs high capacity bandwidth.
Seems like a giant scam to me.
Of course, I certainly don't want to go back to dial-up. But I would think that the industry's standardization of the costs for these services (at least smacks of some sort of collusion) has set them unreasonably high and thus out of the price range of many consumers.
PC manufacturers have met the need for low cost computing, but what about bandwidth providers who are still giving us the slowest element of our computing architecture.
operator: 911, how can I help you?
webtv user: HELP! I have a crushing sense of impending doom!
operator: OK sir, I see that you are using WEBTV. I'm going to have to ask that you reboot your computer.
webtv user: Computer? What's that?
As digital cameras get bigger and better, I've noticed many using .tif as the file format. Sure it is a much larger file size, but is heads and shoulders above the .jpg format when it come to serious photography.
The PNG format might actually be a substitue when it comes to regular photography as file size is much less important when NOT dealing with the web.
Don't you mean Replay TV? Or does TIVO now connect via broadband and allow for the sharing of programs like ReplayTV does?
Most thermostats will only trigger the furnace once the temperature goes below what the thermostat is set at.
Central air will allow for air being forced out of vents at the temperature you set the thermostat at.
I agreee with your overall point though.
I thought the article said "Water Cooled Lap Dance".
Oh wait, this isn't goatse.cx...
You chicks are all the same.
I suppose we'll be moving over to .png files for digital imaging?
;^)
Or will someone pop up and try to screw us all with that format too?
I couldn't be happier that the radio stations will get the same porking that the technophobe music industry has given to webcasters.
See, the radio stations actually have the power to fight this and get some results. Hopefully they won't ba allowed to be an exception. Or the law gets changed.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
"When I was younger I had even more rights, maybe the UK is just trying to catch up with the poor human rights policy in the US."
;^)
Wasn't there some reason why some of you fled the UK to come to the "New World"? Oh yeah, freedom from religious and political persecution.
very true, which is why I wont buy XP. 2000 is M$'s best effort so far. XP was M$'s point release to the OS X interface. ;^)