By buying a license, I suspect they are making corporations admit to some degree that SCO is right in their suit. The more they buy into this, the more the case is bolstered or they feel that it is bolstered. Anyone else seen a suit go like this? It's unprecidented and definitely out of order.
I agree that the non-windows server farms as well as the non-windows workstations require little maintenance and some patching from time to time.
But I have to say the windows users keeps me in business as they require patching constantly (especially with the recent security issues server side) and all the applications that experience problems, blues screens, etc.
eh, just a bit of job security.:) now if we solved all the problems, they wouldn't need us would they? it'd be just like the Maytag commercials..sometimes...:)
To all you sysadmins, take some time and enjoy a cold one.:)
We don't authorize linux or any other OS besides MS on the desktop but if an engineering group (and there has been in our electric distribution and transmission teams) requires a robust OS (such as Linux or any other OS for that matter) for the job, then they are allowed with limited or no support. We inventory it, work with the user to set managability and move on. Instead of being rigid, we must find ourselves to be flexible in todays market. Unlike your team, (as it seems) we are growth oriented and possess a get-the-job-done attitude. We attune ourselves to what the customer requires. They work within our constraints and are typically patient. In an outsourced world (I work for one of the largest), it is best to be open minded than blatantly closed or else someone may have your job. My parent company took over the support of the Fortune 500 company for the same reasons you appear proud to announce. Policies are good... don't get me wrong but you have to work with a positive attitude and find a workable ground.
One option to those who develop free software
is to stop development of free software that
runs on SCO. I have seen a few stop development
but I as well as many others would like to see
other big products stop or hinder their development
or support to the SCO user-base.
And we've seen several times where they were wrong
in their searches for copyrighted material. If this
even passed such that the recording industry had this power,
expect lots of liability suits where they "destroyed"
wrongly.
Bad bad legislation. Sounds like knee-jerk reaction
instead of using the old noggin.
Apparently someone on the inside knows a lot
and really hates the way SCO is trampling on
the community.
Isn't it nice how they can look out our hard work
and no one is allowed to look over their shoulders?
Kudos to this brave soul who took a stand but I suggest
watching your back.
In the article found at news.com, McBride is quoted.
"It doesn't make sense. How would you transfer the product but not have
the copyright attached? That would be like transferring a book but only getting the cover," McBride said.
Sounds as if SCO got the corporate equivalent of a EULA.:)
If I was SCO, I would be so embarassed to find my
trashy code in someone's prog or OS that I would
litigate to just have the nasty *&^% removed.
Wouldn't you?;)
Now for some interesting April Fools jokes on my
co-worker. Of course, I'm sure it won't be well
received but way on down the line I'm sure he'll get
a chuckle . ..when I'm sitting behind bars I suppose.
But . ..he'll still think it was funny, mind you.
I use a hardware firewall and occasionally tack in my laptop from time to time. Sensitive data from work is STRICTLY not allowed on
outside PCs. We are allowed to VPN from home on the laptops. Should the company I work for consider paying for the extra connection the new law will impose?
Your last sentence really set a better tone
for the discussion.
I've come away from this topic with a better
view. I'm remaining optimistic that some sort
of compromise will be made. That's what our
society is all about.
Good discussion...
Now back to the norm of the day...MS bashing...;)
J/K
Not to stray off topic, I know exactly how you feel.
It does feel a bit like cold-war era coming.
I appreciate all the comments on my post.
I like to keep a level head about the issues
that impact my family and sometimes my hindsight
gets the better of me. Just like everyone here, I have an opinion. Thanks for a forum to share it.
I agree with this argument. I do think this is the best
country for me. I work, vote, pay my taxes and participate
in the lives of my kids and those friends/family around me.
I think by and large you are correct about the tax-payer
not controlling where his/her money goes. It's evident in this
great country how corporate lobbyist get heard far
more often than individuals.
Your last comment is a bit extreme but I can see
where you may have
drawn that conclusion from my statement.
I just stated I didn't want my tax dollars going to it.
It's like anything else you support in this country.
How does porn make Americans more literate by the way?
I did not confuse school libraries with public libraries.
Both are still supported by the tax-paying system.
What's wrong with dropping your teen-age children off
at a public library to meet with other youths to research
work? They collaborate well. Typically there's at least
one of the participating parents supervising.
Don't be overzealous in your presumptions or assume
that several parents don't supervise their kids.
What I would like to see is more proactive contribution
to a solution to the issue since more than a fair share of people
have a problem with CIPA.
Why should I, as a taxpayer, want to allow my taxes
to continue to support something that doesn't protect
the best interests of my children when I am not
able to be with them during those visits to school and library?
If it cannot be regulated out of common sense, then
maybe "free" internet access should be revisited.
I'm not advocating that resources should be removed but
the average American needs to know what they are paying for.
I think this is good. The youth have had
Microsoft and Apple experience, why not
introduce a few of the next generation programmers
to what will be one of the competing desktops.
Hopefully an electronic ethics course comes
along with it all these computer classes
generally speaking.
Slashdot Mirror
By buying a license, I suspect they are making corporations admit to some degree that SCO is right in their suit. The more they buy into this, the more the case is bolstered or they feel that it is bolstered. Anyone else seen a suit go like this? It's unprecidented and definitely out of order.
I agree that the non-windows server farms as well as the non-windows workstations require little maintenance and some patching from time to time.
:) now if we solved all the problems, they wouldn't need us would they? it'd be just like the Maytag commercials..sometimes... :)
:)
But I have to say the windows users keeps me in business as they require patching constantly (especially with the recent security issues server side) and all the applications that experience problems, blues screens, etc.
eh, just a bit of job security.
To all you sysadmins, take some time and enjoy a cold one.
We don't authorize linux or any other OS besides MS on the desktop but if an engineering group (and there has been in our electric distribution and transmission teams) requires a robust OS (such as Linux or any other OS for that matter) for the job, then they are allowed with limited or no support. We inventory it, work with the user to set managability and move on. Instead of being rigid, we must find ourselves to be flexible in todays market. Unlike your team, (as it seems) we are growth oriented and possess a get-the-job-done attitude. We attune ourselves to what the customer requires. They work within our constraints and are typically patient. In an outsourced world (I work for one of the largest), it is best to be open minded than blatantly closed or else someone may have your job. My parent company took over the support of the Fortune 500 company for the same reasons you appear proud to announce. Policies are good ... don't get me wrong but you have to work with a positive attitude and find a workable ground.
Just my thoughts...
One option to those who develop free software
is to stop development of free software that
runs on SCO. I have seen a few stop development
but I as well as many others would like to see
other big products stop or hinder their development
or support to the SCO user-base.
And we've seen several times where they were wrong
in their searches for copyrighted material. If this
even passed such that the recording industry had this power,
expect lots of liability suits where they "destroyed"
wrongly.
Bad bad legislation. Sounds like knee-jerk reaction
instead of using the old noggin.
Apparently someone on the inside knows a lot
and really hates the way SCO is trampling on
the community.
Isn't it nice how they can look out our hard work
and no one is allowed to look over their shoulders?
Kudos to this brave soul who took a stand but I suggest
watching your back.
. . . in 80 lines???
Must be some killer lines.
I'd like to see uninterrupted telecourses.
Introductary and intermediary courses offered
on a wide range of fields and topics.
Just my two-cents and bandwidth.
In the article found at news.com, McBride is quoted.
Sounds as if SCO got the corporate equivalent of a EULA.
I'd be offended also if I found SCO in my code. :)
;)
If I was SCO, I would be so embarassed to find my
trashy code in someone's prog or OS that I would
litigate to just have the nasty *&^% removed.
Wouldn't you?
Now for some interesting April Fools jokes on my .when I'm sitting behind bars I suppose. .he'll still think it was funny, mind you.
co-worker. Of course, I'm sure it won't be well
received but way on down the line I'm sure he'll get
a chuckle . .
But . .
Can't wait to see the Dilbert for this one.
I use a hardware firewall and occasionally tack
in my laptop from time to time. Sensitive
data from work is STRICTLY not allowed on
outside PCs. We are allowed to VPN from home
on the laptops. Should the company I work for
consider paying for the extra connection the
new law will impose?
Could this have been the portion that was copied :)
over from SCO's IP?
I thought I remembered something regarding MS and SCO IP rights.
Microsoft-SCO 1997 Settlement
Nah,they would probably send the BSA. :)
He missed a closing parenthesis in the first sentence.
News for Nerds? Stuff that matters?
/. :)
I like a good book but I would like more reviews
of books/material that really matters most to
techies/science/engineering/math.
But then again . . . this is
Well put. :)
Your last sentence really set a better tone
for the discussion.
I've come away from this topic with a better
view. I'm remaining optimistic that some sort
of compromise will be made. That's what our
society is all about.
Good discussion...
Now back to the norm of the day...MS bashing...;)
J/K
Point well taken even without sarcasm. :)
As I stated in a reply to Beebos, the whole direction
that we are approaching for a solution is flawed
due to the nature of filters in general.
I definitely see the point of protecting access.
Prohibition era taught us people are going to do what
they will regardless of restrictions.
Hopefully they can drop the current CIPA laws and move to something
that the adult industry can comply.
Thanks for the good discussion Beebos and I appreciate
the fact that you didn't get all bent out of shape
on my comments/input.
It is definitely apparent that we are approaching the whole
issue from the wrong direction.
Not to stray off topic, I know exactly how you feel.
It does feel a bit like cold-war era coming.
I appreciate all the comments on my post.
I like to keep a level head about the issues
that impact my family and sometimes my hindsight
gets the better of me. Just like everyone here,
I have an opinion. Thanks for a forum to share it.
I agree with this argument. I do think this is the best
country for me. I work, vote, pay my taxes and participate
in the lives of my kids and those friends/family around me.
I think by and large you are correct about the tax-payer
not controlling where his/her money goes. It's evident in this
great country how corporate lobbyist get heard far
more often than individuals.
Your last comment is a bit extreme but I can see where you may have
drawn that conclusion from my statement.
I just stated I didn't want my tax dollars going to it.
It's like anything else you support in this country.
How does porn make Americans more literate by the way?
I did not confuse school libraries with public libraries.
Both are still supported by the tax-paying system.
What's wrong with dropping your teen-age children off
at a public library to meet with other youths to research
work? They collaborate well. Typically there's at least
one of the participating parents supervising.
Don't be overzealous in your presumptions or assume
that several parents don't supervise their kids.
What I would like to see is more proactive contribution
to a solution to the issue since more than a fair share of people
have a problem with CIPA.
Why should I, as a taxpayer, want to allow my taxes
to continue to support something that doesn't protect
the best interests of my children when I am not
able to be with them during those visits to school and library?
If it cannot be regulated out of common sense, then
maybe "free" internet access should be revisited.
I'm not advocating that resources should be removed but
the average American needs to know what they are paying for.
I think this is good. The youth have had
Microsoft and Apple experience, why not
introduce a few of the next generation programmers
to what will be one of the competing desktops.
Hopefully an electronic ethics course comes
along with it all these computer classes
generally speaking.