"In the 30s, Hitler, Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, World War II -- the Russian front, not a good idea! Hitler never played Risk when he was a kid! Cause you know, playing Risk, you could never hold on to Asia. That Asian-Eastern European area, you could never hold it, could you? Seven extra men at the beginning of every go, but you couldn't fucking hold it!" --Eddie Izzard
OS5 does seem to be a little different, and yes, it does seem that it's very easy to drift away from design principles.
Nevertheless, I stand by my original comments. Visit the palminfocenter.com forums, and while there are some people experiencing problems like yours, most seem to be getting by fine. And Palm is commendable for even having design principles to begin with (keep in mind these were probably published with some of the very early palms)
I only brought up XF86 because the original poster did, who obviously had no idea of what we're talking about here. He seemed to think these were mini laptops or something.
Look around on the comments around here, and you'll notice most people are saying things like "it's cool I can do linux-y things on my Zaurus, but my palm still handles PIM functions better"
BTW, OS6 is supposed to fix some of those database problems, but I guess we'll see on Monday:)
You have absolutely no idea what a palm device is used for. On a palm device, you *do not* load Windows XP on it. These are items with around 400MHz Intel XScale and around 32-64MB of memory.
PalmOS is for palm-sized devices (e.g. ORGANIZERS) that have very little flexibility as far as data loss, convenience, and user-friendliness. No user wants to open up a console and mess with XF86 settings to try and get their organizer working right in the middle of a meeting.
Part of the reason Palm is still popular is because of the fundamental design decisions made with the OS. Which is to be, above all, a damn good organizer. Part of what Palm realized (and what Apple hadn't yet with the Newton) is that user requirements for an organizer is significantly different from a computer. Users expect it to work just as well as their wristwatch. A great article to read on this is the "Zen of Palm" (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/zenofpalm/ ZenTOC.html)
In the handheld market, Palm is competing with PocketPC (or as it's less affectionately known, Windows Mobile-based Pocket PC) and to a very much lesser extent, Linux on the Zaurus.
In the phone market, Palm is competing yet again with Windows and then Symbian. And this division of markets is why they're concurrently developing OS 5 and 6.
And, for your information, PalmSource owns Be. Part of the whole point of OS6 is that Be engineers are putting significant efforts into it.
This sounds like a refinement of RH's strategy to me. Fedora's designed for consumer usage, with certain features from Fedora eventually finding their way to RHEL (say, if someone working on Fedora comes up with an amazingly good idea, or some such).
Of course, the only difference seems to be that Mandrake's "official" releases are still targeted at the consumer with download editions, while the "official" fedora releases are meant for corporate consumption.
"Previous RealPlayers and RealOne players have been impolite in certain areas (Message Center with ads, file types, icons everywhere, running in the traybar). It has been possible to make it well mannered, but it has included being forced to delete certain files to prevent the Message Center from popping up. However, regarding the "spyware" allegations, I have read that one old player did send back some usage information. That's long gone, but it's hard to be forgiven for that mistake."
Players in the past have been considered badly behaved enough, that to be frank, many computer users, from novices to experts, hate RealPlayer, and want to stay as far away as possible. Even the marketing people have started to understand this, and RP 10 is one good step in the right direction of behaving nicer, but it may not be enough, considering how bad the reputation is (yes, we do get the feedback, us developers more than the marketeers, since chances are higher we read the tech forums).
You know, I thought this post wasn't right, but I just checked their site, and holy crap, they actually did it. After 5 years, they finally did it!
Previously, if you visited the Real.com site, you were shown a huge banner telling you "RealPlayer with RealOne, $9.95 per month" or "RealPlayer Plus for $29" or some such thing, with "free Realplayer" in size 12 font in the upper right corner, with the banner taking the main part of the page. After clicking on "free realplayer" you were given, once more, an option to buy Realplayer plus or free realplayer on the right side in slightly smaller font.
Now, when you go, "free download" is the words in big font, with it once again linking to the second page, but this is an order of magnitude better than before. It could still be better though, if they eliminated once and for all the "realplayer plus" secondary page, or at least made that the lesser focus of the page (PREMIUM PLAYER is still in fairly large font)
There's no fix. MacIE uses a completely different rendering engine than the Windows IE. A macie developer probably wouldn't be able to tell you wtf is wrong with the windows IE css engine.
Not to mention, MacIE is no longer being developed, as it's pretty slow and being shoved out by Safari and Gecko browsers (mostly safari though)
I wonder how they can claim that New Line Cinema is independent, unless they mean independent of Miramax. It's a part of AOL Time Warner for frick's sake, it's about as far away from independent as you can get.
My my, what a little research can get you... http://www.steampowered.com/status/status. html
3.23AM 18/01/2004 Current Player count: 31569 players, 26727 on CS alone.
Clearly, one or all of your numbers are wrong.
Steam is indeed free to download, but you still need to have a working CDkey to get anything useful out of it (like, an account and the games)
Steam doesn't lock you into anything; you're free to run a dedicated server just like you used to be able to (meaning custom maps and mods). The only problem is that offline LAN play is broken (being worked on it seems) and sometimes it goes down abruptly, but then again, Steam *is* a first implementation of the concept.
You may indeed have an 8500 inside your PowerBook. But, here's some information that gives you just a little perspective:)
Codenames -- Retail Brand Name R200 -- Radeon 8500, 8500LE, and so forth RV250 -- Radeon 9000 RV280 -- Radeon 9200
Radeon 9000s are the mainstream version of the 8500; in other words a cut-down 8500 for lower costs and bigger production quantities. In order to do this, they had to cut down on complexity, and in the same vein, this also means slightly lower performance (compared to a desktop 8500) and lower clock speeds.
The Radeon 9200 is a modified radeon9000 to include support for AGP8x (and 4x too, of course) and slightly higher clock speeds.
The Radeon9600s found in highend laptops now are actually a completely new chip, based off of the RV350 cores and as such have more relationship to the Radeon 9700s than the 8500s. In fact, there is almost no relationship between a 9600 and an 8500.
Actually, I can tell you for a fact that you do not have a Radeon 8500 in your PowerBook. Know why I can say this? Because ATI *never* produced a mobility version of the 8500:) Their recent mobility line went like this: 7500, 9000, 9200, 9600.
You guys should really all stop holding grudges against Real. Sure, back in the days of 1998-2001 they were all about making money off of advertising, but who wasn't? It's their fault for not reacting quickly enough to fix this, but they're obviously working on doing things right.
RM9 was actually a pretty damn decent codec and was pretty good at doing video at reasonably small file sizes. Quicktime is really bad at resizing its size (try downloading a trailer from Apple's website on "large" and then click on the Maximize button. At least on QTWin, the resulting picture is really bad, even though you started with a pretty good source image. You generally don't have this problem with Divx, xvid, or anything else really). Although Windows media actually isn't a bad piece of tech anymore, it's inherently evil in many ways, and that's enough for me to stop using it.
Let's look at what Real is trying to do now: they're trying to gain technical superiority with better codecs, and as far as I'm concerned, more power to 'em. They're also trying to reduce the blatant advertising they have on their site and in their client; the more of this the better, this was everyone's #1 complaint about Real anyway. They're still continuing on with their helixcommunity OSS stuff, which seems to be an attempt at being more open. Nothing in those three seem really negative to me.
In fact, if you think about it, Real is probably the most crossplatform thing out there. Windows Media is obviously focused on Windows, and lesser so on Mac. Quicktime is obviously focused on Mac, and a slightly lesser degree on Windows. Both of those have zero Linux support. Real's got RP8 on Linux and all those helix builds too. Though mplayer can do all three (w00t), it isn't an official product from any of them, so I wouldn't count that as adding crossplatform capability.
Granted, Real's got a big frigging hole to dig out of, one that they only dug themselves. But at least they're trying, and if they keep this up, they might do a pretty damn good job too. Let's at least keep an open mind while they try.
The funny thing here, is that AOL/Time Warner already owns the top brand in ISP's: AOL. So why not come out with a $9.95 "AOL-Light", which you then cajole customers into upgrading to full-fledged AOL? Using Netscape as the brand for an entry-level ISP makes no sense whatever, whereas extending the AOL name makes perfect sense.
Because AOL's brand name has already been tarnished as a result of the brain dead advertising decisions made back in the 2000 days. Extending the AOL brand name means people with a distaste for AOL will avoid it like the plague because it will bring back memories of bad service. Netscape hasn't done an ISP service in a while (their last USA effort was a partnership with Qwest, if anyone remembers that), so its brand name as an ISP hasn't been tarnished, yet.
This does however kill Netscape's brand as a browser company, as it seems it will be bundling IE, which is an atrocity in itself.
Au revoir Netscape, those Time Warner fucks have no idea of what to do with you.
At this point I don't even want to see mozilla.org pick up the branding scraps from Netscape. AOLTW saw to it that those were beaten to a pulp.
Readers: our mission is clear. Help end users forget the nightmare that is now AOLTW/Netscape and get them over to Mozilla, pronto. All Time Warner can see is $$$, not that ditching Netscape browser development and rolling over for Microsoft puts them in vendor lockin in the long run.
While, you have a good point (this is a somewhat boneheaded move by RH), you're also missing part of it. The whole reason for this pain is for RH to transition to RHEL, which is designed for longevity (which RH9, essentially the consumer version, isn't). In fact, even though RH just released AS/WS/ES 3.0, they have a page where they outright say that some people might wish to stay with RHEL 2.1, and they understand this. With every new release that Microsoft makes, they're trying to compel you to upgrade for one reason or another.
And stop bitching. It's not like RedHat is the only game in town. There's SuSE (now backed by Novell, and you can hardly say they're minor) and for the do-it-yourselfer, there's Debian, Gentoo, Slack, and even Fedora.
You're right. It *is* more complicated than that, especially since the latest version on the website for your card is significantly older than the latest version available for all-in-wonder cards, and a reasonable person might expect that the new version has a bunch of new features and, quite possibly, bug fixes.
In the course of actually running the University, as in stuff that might be used entirely by staff and administration (e.g. people who have no interest in open source and just want their desktops to work), then the "best tool for the job" is a perfectly fine line of reasoning. I agree with you though, that open source just jives better with academic philosophies though, and probably should be used as much as is reasonably possible (e.g. if you need something to work *now* and OSS doesn't do it (yet) then by all means go find some closed source stuff). Academia is all about sharing knowledge anyway.
Right. Every company of every product you've ever tried has always had a flawless execution of every single new product they've ever had, especially when trying to make their product work on a competitor's product. That's why we always tell you to download each and every single MS patch (assuming it doesn't break your system in other ways), wait until SP1 before upgrading your MS product, and never use a x.0 product.
Get real. While these are important issues, the important thing is whether or not Apple fixes these issues. Windows isn't exactly Apple's speciality after all. I'd say you were just trolling and have a pretty crappy cop-out reason for discounting Apple this easily.
I wish I still had my mod points for the parent post.
Have you guys ever thought of pursuing a distribution method in Fedora similar to Mozilla's? That is, keep a regular release schedule, but every once in a while, mark a certain release branch as a "stable" release (e.g. Mozilla 1.0, 1.4), where extra QA and testing goes into it with an extra focus on stability and quality. This would enable others to have a non-moving target for Fedora Core to serve as a launch point for bundling and serves as an equivalent to what previous RHL releases were. This would even enable you to take the Fedora release, rebrand it as your own to keep exposure of RH and Fedora high, while allowing the community to have the frequent releases we like:) You wouldn't even have to provide any support for it, just keep it ISOs only and point to community support groups.
Perhaps you could do this every 4 core releases? Say, Fedora Core 4 would serve as RH10, Fedora Core 8 RHL 10.1, and so on.
This would allow you to still use Fedora as a "preview" of what RHEL offers while not dedicating too many resources away from your main goal.
Think this is bad news for mozilla? Then do your part! Get your friends, family, company, good business associates, etc. to convert over to either Mozilla or Opera (I'm biased towards Moz myself, but Opera makes a fine replacement for IE too). Not only will this increase the momentum behind Mozilla, you can safely say to yourself that you're helping to make the Internet a better place, while giving all those aforementioned people a helping hand too:)
Keep the movement going, increase those Mozilla usage numbers. Give Mozilla Firebird or plain ol' Mozilla Seamonkey to everyone you know, get 'em converted! Need help finding reasons to convince them? We've got em!
While I'm sure this could become a major problem in the future if it reaches critical mass, the beauty of Bluetooth is that it's designed for personal area networks. So, although it's bluetooth spam, it shouldn't reach anyone farther than 30 feet away from you or so. This by itself will make bluetooth spam a little harder to operate than just SMS or email spam.
Unless, of course, Microsoft makes a smartphone that has Outlook on it and bluetooth as an option...:)
ZoneAlarm isn't *that* bad, but if it doesn't float your boat, there's also Sygate Personal Firewall (also free or pro) and Tiny Personal Firewall. I've used Sygate before, and found them to be pretty good. Tiny was a little weird, so I never really used it. There's also Kerio personal firewall, which is also free but I've never used.
Don't get BlackICE Defender.
And I stopped buying Symantec products after they announced product activation. I mean jeez, how much money do they honestly think they're losing in the utilities business? As much as I dislike mcafee, I'll use them as long as they don't have activation.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/07/science/07HUBB.h tml?ex=1076734800&en=f74fc93d9204bbee&ei=5062&part ner=GOOGLE
"In the 30s, Hitler, Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, World War II -- the Russian front, not a good idea! Hitler never played Risk when he was a kid! Cause you know, playing Risk, you could never hold on to Asia. That Asian-Eastern European area, you could never hold it, could you? Seven extra men at the beginning of every go, but you couldn't fucking hold it!" --Eddie Izzard
OS5 does seem to be a little different, and yes, it does seem that it's very easy to drift away from design principles.
:)
Nevertheless, I stand by my original comments. Visit the palminfocenter.com forums, and while there are some people experiencing problems like yours, most seem to be getting by fine. And Palm is commendable for even having design principles to begin with (keep in mind these were probably published with some of the very early palms)
I only brought up XF86 because the original poster did, who obviously had no idea of what we're talking about here. He seemed to think these were mini laptops or something.
Look around on the comments around here, and you'll notice most people are saying things like "it's cool I can do linux-y things on my Zaurus, but my palm still handles PIM functions better"
BTW, OS6 is supposed to fix some of those database problems, but I guess we'll see on Monday
Lucky for you, palmone already thought of that: http://www.palmone.com/us/products/handhelds/zire2 1/
If $99 is too much for you, then there's a slower, older, less memory version of it for $79.
Granted, there's no backlight or expansion on either of these, but they're cheap.
You have absolutely no idea what a palm device is used for. On a palm device, you *do not* load Windows XP on it. These are items with around 400MHz Intel XScale and around 32-64MB of memory.
/ ZenTOC.html)
PalmOS is for palm-sized devices (e.g. ORGANIZERS) that have very little flexibility as far as data loss, convenience, and user-friendliness. No user wants to open up a console and mess with XF86 settings to try and get their organizer working right in the middle of a meeting.
Part of the reason Palm is still popular is because of the fundamental design decisions made with the OS. Which is to be, above all, a damn good organizer. Part of what Palm realized (and what Apple hadn't yet with the Newton) is that user requirements for an organizer is significantly different from a computer. Users expect it to work just as well as their wristwatch. A great article to read on this is the "Zen of Palm" (http://www.palmos.com/dev/support/docs/zenofpalm
In the handheld market, Palm is competing with PocketPC (or as it's less affectionately known, Windows Mobile-based Pocket PC) and to a very much lesser extent, Linux on the Zaurus.
In the phone market, Palm is competing yet again with Windows and then Symbian. And this division of markets is why they're concurrently developing OS 5 and 6.
And, for your information, PalmSource owns Be. Part of the whole point of OS6 is that Be engineers are putting significant efforts into it.
This sounds like a refinement of RH's strategy to me. Fedora's designed for consumer usage, with certain features from Fedora eventually finding their way to RHEL (say, if someone working on Fedora comes up with an amazingly good idea, or some such).
Of course, the only difference seems to be that Mandrake's "official" releases are still targeted at the consumer with download editions, while the "official" fedora releases are meant for corporate consumption.
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You know, I thought this post wasn't right, but I just checked their site, and holy crap, they actually did it. After 5 years, they finally did it!
Previously, if you visited the Real.com site, you were shown a huge banner telling you "RealPlayer with RealOne, $9.95 per month" or "RealPlayer Plus for $29" or some such thing, with "free Realplayer" in size 12 font in the upper right corner, with the banner taking the main part of the page. After clicking on "free realplayer" you were given, once more, an option to buy Realplayer plus or free realplayer on the right side in slightly smaller font.
Now, when you go, "free download" is the words in big font, with it once again linking to the second page, but this is an order of magnitude better than before. It could still be better though, if they eliminated once and for all the "realplayer plus" secondary page, or at least made that the lesser focus of the page (PREMIUM PLAYER is still in fairly large font)
There's no fix. MacIE uses a completely different rendering engine than the Windows IE. A macie developer probably wouldn't be able to tell you wtf is wrong with the windows IE css engine.
Not to mention, MacIE is no longer being developed, as it's pretty slow and being shoved out by Safari and Gecko browsers (mostly safari though)
I wonder how they can claim that New Line Cinema is independent, unless they mean independent of Miramax. It's a part of AOL Time Warner for frick's sake, it's about as far away from independent as you can get.
My my, what a little research can get you.... html
http://www.steampowered.com/status/status
3.23AM 18/01/2004
Current Player count: 31569 players, 26727 on CS alone.
Clearly, one or all of your numbers are wrong.
Steam is indeed free to download, but you still need to have a working CDkey to get anything useful out of it (like, an account and the games)
Steam doesn't lock you into anything; you're free to run a dedicated server just like you used to be able to (meaning custom maps and mods). The only problem is that offline LAN play is broken (being worked on it seems) and sometimes it goes down abruptly, but then again, Steam *is* a first implementation of the concept.
You may indeed have an 8500 inside your PowerBook. But, here's some information that gives you just a little perspective :)
:) Their recent mobility line went like this: 7500, 9000, 9200, 9600.
Codenames -- Retail Brand Name
R200 -- Radeon 8500, 8500LE, and so forth
RV250 -- Radeon 9000
RV280 -- Radeon 9200
Radeon 9000s are the mainstream version of the 8500; in other words a cut-down 8500 for lower costs and bigger production quantities. In order to do this, they had to cut down on complexity, and in the same vein, this also means slightly lower performance (compared to a desktop 8500) and lower clock speeds.
The Radeon 9200 is a modified radeon9000 to include support for AGP8x (and 4x too, of course) and slightly higher clock speeds.
The Radeon9600s found in highend laptops now are actually a completely new chip, based off of the RV350 cores and as such have more relationship to the Radeon 9700s than the 8500s. In fact, there is almost no relationship between a 9600 and an 8500.
Actually, I can tell you for a fact that you do not have a Radeon 8500 in your PowerBook. Know why I can say this? Because ATI *never* produced a mobility version of the 8500
You guys should really all stop holding grudges against Real. Sure, back in the days of 1998-2001 they were all about making money off of advertising, but who wasn't? It's their fault for not reacting quickly enough to fix this, but they're obviously working on doing things right.
RM9 was actually a pretty damn decent codec and was pretty good at doing video at reasonably small file sizes. Quicktime is really bad at resizing its size (try downloading a trailer from Apple's website on "large" and then click on the Maximize button. At least on QTWin, the resulting picture is really bad, even though you started with a pretty good source image. You generally don't have this problem with Divx, xvid, or anything else really). Although Windows media actually isn't a bad piece of tech anymore, it's inherently evil in many ways, and that's enough for me to stop using it.
Let's look at what Real is trying to do now: they're trying to gain technical superiority with better codecs, and as far as I'm concerned, more power to 'em. They're also trying to reduce the blatant advertising they have on their site and in their client; the more of this the better, this was everyone's #1 complaint about Real anyway. They're still continuing on with their helixcommunity OSS stuff, which seems to be an attempt at being more open. Nothing in those three seem really negative to me.
In fact, if you think about it, Real is probably the most crossplatform thing out there. Windows Media is obviously focused on Windows, and lesser so on Mac. Quicktime is obviously focused on Mac, and a slightly lesser degree on Windows. Both of those have zero Linux support. Real's got RP8 on Linux and all those helix builds too. Though mplayer can do all three (w00t), it isn't an official product from any of them, so I wouldn't count that as adding crossplatform capability.
Granted, Real's got a big frigging hole to dig out of, one that they only dug themselves. But at least they're trying, and if they keep this up, they might do a pretty damn good job too. Let's at least keep an open mind while they try.
This does however kill Netscape's brand as a browser company, as it seems it will be bundling IE, which is an atrocity in itself.
At this point I don't even want to see mozilla.org pick up the branding scraps from Netscape. AOLTW saw to it that those were beaten to a pulp.
Readers: our mission is clear. Help end users forget the nightmare that is now AOLTW/Netscape and get them over to Mozilla, pronto. All Time Warner can see is $$$, not that ditching Netscape browser development and rolling over for Microsoft puts them in vendor lockin in the long run.
And stop bitching. It's not like RedHat is the only game in town. There's SuSE (now backed by Novell, and you can hardly say they're minor) and for the do-it-yourselfer, there's Debian, Gentoo, Slack, and even Fedora.
Small things to pick with you at.
In the course of actually running the University, as in stuff that might be used entirely by staff and administration (e.g. people who have no interest in open source and just want their desktops to work), then the "best tool for the job" is a perfectly fine line of reasoning. I agree with you though, that open source just jives better with academic philosophies though, and probably should be used as much as is reasonably possible (e.g. if you need something to work *now* and OSS doesn't do it (yet) then by all means go find some closed source stuff). Academia is all about sharing knowledge anyway.
Right. Every company of every product you've ever tried has always had a flawless execution of every single new product they've ever had, especially when trying to make their product work on a competitor's product. That's why we always tell you to download each and every single MS patch (assuming it doesn't break your system in other ways), wait until SP1 before upgrading your MS product, and never use a x.0 product.
Get real. While these are important issues, the important thing is whether or not Apple fixes these issues. Windows isn't exactly Apple's speciality after all. I'd say you were just trolling and have a pretty crappy cop-out reason for discounting Apple this easily.
I wish I still had my mod points for the parent post.
Perhaps you could do this every 4 core releases? Say, Fedora Core 4 would serve as RH10, Fedora Core 8 RHL 10.1, and so on.
This would allow you to still use Fedora as a "preview" of what RHEL offers while not dedicating too many resources away from your main goal.
(see the [outdated] mozilla.org roadmap if you want an idea of what i'm talking about: http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
(Editors: this is all one big question, with just a lot of explanatory stuff. Feel free to condense it as needed :) )
Keep the movement going, increase those Mozilla usage numbers. Give Mozilla Firebird or plain ol' Mozilla Seamonkey to everyone you know, get 'em converted! Need help finding reasons to convince them? We've got em!
Psst, nobody better tell this guy about Mandrake :)
Granted, Mandrake's ads aren't really annoying, they're just there, but still a point worth mentioning :)
While I'm sure this could become a major problem in the future if it reaches critical mass, the beauty of Bluetooth is that it's designed for personal area networks. So, although it's bluetooth spam, it shouldn't reach anyone farther than 30 feet away from you or so. This by itself will make bluetooth spam a little harder to operate than just SMS or email spam.
:)
Unless, of course, Microsoft makes a smartphone that has Outlook on it and bluetooth as an option...
ZoneAlarm isn't *that* bad, but if it doesn't float your boat, there's also Sygate Personal Firewall (also free or pro) and Tiny Personal Firewall. I've used Sygate before, and found them to be pretty good. Tiny was a little weird, so I never really used it. There's also Kerio personal firewall, which is also free but I've never used.
Don't get BlackICE Defender.
And I stopped buying Symantec products after they announced product activation. I mean jeez, how much money do they honestly think they're losing in the utilities business? As much as I dislike mcafee, I'll use them as long as they don't have activation.