What struck me was the instalation system. I think rpmdrake/urpmi is good, but it's still not friendly enough that I feel comfortable recomending it to average user. My main beef is in upgrading specific rpms, which I think could really use some work on the gui level. It's close, but to me just dosn't seem to match the usability of apt with the synaptic front end. Debians apt repository combined with a well done gui I belive will enhance the new users experience to a very large degree.
KDE altering issues aside, only having one control panel should be a very good thing for the new user as well. It seems like people migrating from windows would have a lot easier time finding the options on their setup as well.
While I do like people having an option to more easily get a unified look throughout the programs, beautiful is the last thing I'd call the theme. In fact I used screenshots of it as an example to an artist I know, to make sure she knew that just because kerimik looks nice, artistic sensibility and Linux developers have been slow to mesh.
And now the disclaimer. Yes, in any kind of art there's going to be different interpretations. Most seem to like this look, I happen to be one who strongly dosn't.
Because of a/. article and because I'm OS/Software egnostic, I tried Mozilla 1.0 which was a horrible product.
With an attitude like that, you most certainly are not "OS/Software agnostic". What you are is no different than people who give a broad statement that windows is a horrible product because their non updated, mismanaged, windows95 using computers crashed.
I'm just sick of the "hippicratical oath"/. editors have taken.
And what would you rather have had happen? Wouldn't you have been "bitching and moaning" about the slashdot bias if this article hadn't been posted? Do you honestly think these "Oh, I use windows and no one here understands me!" posts which pop up every time a problem with an open source project occurs are any less annoying than the knee jerk anti microsoft postings? Take a look in the mirror, your post is the exact other side of the coin to the ones you're complaining about.
If cinima and short story have taught me anything in life, it's that if you buy an evil looking monkey releated item you're going to get screwed in the end.
Best evil monkey automaton sighting? My vote goes to "Merlin's shop of mystical wonders", as seen on mst3k. Even creepier than the monkey was the fact that not only the mother, but the grandmother as well thought an evil looking monkey automaton would make a great gift for an impresionable little kid.
Users, including me, will pay for good software up to and no further than the point when equivalent, if not better, freeware/open source/[insert other it's-free license here] software comes along.
Exactly. As an example I was initially happy to see that fireburner had a Linux port, remembering using it years ago in windows. After downloading the demo though, I had to wonder why anyone would pay anything for it. Let alone $50, when there were open source products that had far more functionality. I'm all for more products in Linux, but they have to offer functionality above what is available for free. Not just a little bit better, but a lot better if they're going to make up for the fact that I can't tweak the source to my own prefrences.
If you follow the stoopid/. suggestion, and compile/install the new OpenSSL you are going to leave RPM nirvana and enter "random untracked apps linked against random untracked libraries" hell.
Checkinstall should be a good way to get around this. After compiling you use checkinstall instead of make install, and it'll create an rpm and install that.
For the first person to use the letter u in place of "you". Even better would be the first person to ask someone to do something very time consuming, and be lazy enough that they wouldn't even write a full word out when asking.:-)
I absolutly hate it. The majority of the use I've gotten from blocking comes from searching for some information, rather than sites I regulary visit. I really hope they add an option to choose betwean this behavior and the old style before the offcial 1.2 release.
Sorry - I know there is some good art, literature, music and science being made in the USA today. I'm just saying you're over-stating your point.
Darn right! Here in Montanna we have entire museams dedicated to work of, and related to drunken cowboys. Not going to find that anywhere else. In your face Japaneseland!
I noticed that, in a (vaguely) recent Law & Order episode,
I was amused to see a red hat
linux box near the computer of a robotics expert
in the anime chobits. Pretty cool I thought, especially considering it's set in the near future.
I want to see some former cleancut Windows drone become a greasy hairy Linux hippy. I want to see a former bowtie-wearing AIX admin pull on shorts, sandals, and a Tux tshirt.
Forget the Tux tshirt, I want to see the guy go totally nuts, dress up in a penguin suit, and run around breaking windows. Give it a tough "in your face" image that'll have all the warez kiddies rushing off searching for serials and cracks for those red hat isos they nabbed off kazza.
Hey, we could even get a trendy Linux reality show in the process.
It's still one up on microsoft. Their line of working hard on updating their PPC ebook reader to allow reading comercial ebooks changed rather quickly to "Whoops, sorry. Hey you can get it if you buy a new pocketPC though!".
I love how as you go down the list you see tons and tons of gameplay, then for E.T. it's only a title screen and a second of walking. Considering how much the gameplay focused less on the movie, and more on falling into wells it was probably a very good marketing decision.
That being said, I have to rather embarisingly admit to enjoying that game as a kid. And at least it taught our generation an important lesson about wells! One which I note the children of the nes age didn't pay as much heed to.
I'm really hoping for that as well. The 1.0 release has been absolutly amazing for radio level encoding for me. A show I've been off and on listening to has their archives up in real audio format, but unfourtunatly they split them and often their "whole episode" links are flawed. So I wind up having to use Stream Ripper to get the individual files. Then convert them to wav, and finally convert them to ogg before I can hear the episode without having to get up too often. I would have thought converting from real to ogg would have had an absolutly horrid end quality, but at quality level 0 it's actually sounded the same as the source. -1 on those files didnt get as good results, but from non re-encoded files it worked wonderfully for me and with equal or smaller file sizes.
If some good studies started getting out there, a totally free alternitive I think would catch on quite quickly.
I think the reason it's done is because they decrease money that would be lost on the people who would not take their drugs correctly and get money from the people who don't need to see them.
I stooped to the Sun JVM and now all Java runs hella slow on my system and have an annoying tray icon to remind me.
Have you tried out IBM's JVM? I havn't noticed much of a speed difference in Linux, but about a year ago in windows the difference in IBM and Sun's speed was amazing. A java based nes emulator actually went from being too slow for me to being too fast when I changed to IBM's virtual machine. The situation might not be as bad now, but it could be worth a shot if you've not tried it yet.
the software companies have no incentive to make their prices reasonable
I think they would. I've noticed an oddly large amount of teens using XP profesional. If they suddenly had to either start paying for windows or use Linux, a pretty big chunk of the monopoly would suddenly be gone.Easily enough that microsoft would have to work to try and get it back again.
An analogy would help: Intelligent RPGs, based on story, plot and interaction, as opposed to the Diablo-style, click click
That's one of my big problems. Rpgs are pretty much the only genre of games that I really enjoy, and also something that comercially is the rarest of the rare in Linux. I ordered Neverwinter from Tuxgames very early on but aside from that I've pretty much not been able to support Linux gaming unless I bought games I had little to no interest in.
Indeed, that would be the truest test- make christians actually love their neighbors as themselves. That would be a lot harder for most so-called Christians than it would be for me to do Force levitation.
For what it's worth, to me this is the best line from this entire discussion. It's extreamly sad that what to me is the single most significant and reocurring theme from the four gospels of the new testament is also easily the most ignored. Instead what most Christians seem to keep as the core of their religion is that every sunday you get up to hear someone say how much you rock, that Jesus could do magic, that people you don't like are going to burn forever, and that they have a 'get into heaven free' card.
Instead you get situations like when the mother of a friend of mine got engaged to someone of another demonination, and suddenly found herself totally snubbed from her former so called friends at her church. Which isn't to say that there aren't any Christians who actually do practice what they preach, but they seem to be as much the minority as normal christians are always claiming to be.
I've been using the 1.1 beta on Linux since it's release and haven't had any problems. I might just be lucky, but I'll often have mozilla running for three or more days at a time, and 1.1b has never crashed on me.
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...glance at the headline and read "Pentium 42.8GHz?"
I'm back from late night coding induced insomnia, and my somewhat dulled mind thought the same thing for a few seconds. Now if Intel would just license sega's advanced Blast Processing technology, perhaps we finally could get that high!
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What struck me was the instalation system. I think rpmdrake/urpmi is good, but it's still not friendly enough that I feel comfortable recomending it to average user. My main beef is in upgrading specific rpms, which I think could really use some work on the gui level. It's close, but to me just dosn't seem to match the usability of apt with the synaptic front end. Debians apt repository combined with a well done gui I belive will enhance the new users experience to a very large degree.
KDE altering issues aside, only having one control panel should be a very good thing for the new user as well. It seems like people migrating from windows would have a lot easier time finding the options on their setup as well.
While I do like people having an option to more easily get a unified look throughout the programs, beautiful is the last thing I'd call the theme. In fact I used screenshots of it as an example to an artist I know, to make sure she knew that just because kerimik looks nice, artistic sensibility and Linux developers have been slow to mesh.
And now the disclaimer. Yes, in any kind of art there's going to be different interpretations. Most seem to like this look, I happen to be one who strongly dosn't.
Because of a /. article and because I'm OS/Software egnostic, I tried Mozilla 1.0 which was a horrible product.
/. editors have taken.
With an attitude like that, you most certainly are not "OS/Software agnostic". What you are is no different than people who give a broad statement that windows is a horrible product because their non updated, mismanaged, windows95 using computers crashed.
I'm just sick of the "hippicratical oath"
And what would you rather have had happen? Wouldn't you have been "bitching and moaning" about the slashdot bias if this article hadn't been posted? Do you honestly think these "Oh, I use windows and no one here understands me!" posts which pop up every time a problem with an open source project occurs are any less annoying than the knee jerk anti microsoft postings? Take a look in the mirror, your post is the exact other side of the coin to the ones you're complaining about.
If cinima and short story have taught me anything in life, it's that if you buy an evil looking monkey releated item you're going to get screwed in the end.
Best evil monkey automaton sighting? My vote goes to "Merlin's shop of mystical wonders", as seen on mst3k. Even creepier than the monkey was the fact that not only the mother, but the grandmother as well thought an evil looking monkey automaton would make a great gift for an impresionable little kid.
Users, including me, will pay for good software up to and no further than the point when equivalent, if not better, freeware/open source/[insert other it's-free license here] software comes along.
Exactly. As an example I was initially happy to see that fireburner had a Linux port, remembering using it years ago in windows. After downloading the demo though, I had to wonder why anyone would pay anything for it. Let alone $50, when there were open source products that had far more functionality. I'm all for more products in Linux, but they have to offer functionality above what is available for free. Not just a little bit better, but a lot better if they're going to make up for the fact that I can't tweak the source to my own prefrences.
If you follow the stoopid /. suggestion, and compile/install the new OpenSSL you are going to leave RPM nirvana and enter "random untracked apps linked against random untracked libraries" hell.
Checkinstall should be a good way to get around this. After compiling you use checkinstall instead of make install, and it'll create an rpm and install that.
The one with the Sheen as one of the Soulkeepers, or whatever they were called.
Soultakers I believe. Which turned out to be the final fate of Tv's Frank in the end.
For the first person to use the letter u in place of "you". Even better would be the first person to ask someone to do something very time consuming, and be lazy enough that they wouldn't even write a full word out when asking. :-)
However, it appears that the Spellchecker is broken with all nightly builds after August 30th
Perhaps a bit naughty, but I can confirm that installing the spellchecker from the ftp for netscape 7 linux works.
I like it.
I absolutly hate it. The majority of the use I've gotten from blocking comes from searching for some information, rather than sites I regulary visit. I really hope they add an option to choose betwean this behavior and the old style before the offcial 1.2 release.
Sorry - I know there is some good art, literature, music and science being made in the USA today. I'm just saying you're over-stating your point.
Darn right! Here in Montanna we have entire museams dedicated to work of, and related to drunken cowboys. Not going to find that anywhere else. In your face Japaneseland!
frell=smeg
I noticed that, in a (vaguely) recent Law & Order episode,
I was amused to see a red hat linux box near the computer of a robotics expert in the anime chobits. Pretty cool I thought, especially considering it's set in the near future.
I want to see some former cleancut Windows drone become a greasy hairy Linux hippy. I want to see a former bowtie-wearing AIX admin pull on shorts, sandals, and a Tux tshirt.
Forget the Tux tshirt, I want to see the guy go totally nuts, dress up in a penguin suit, and run around breaking windows. Give it a tough "in your face" image that'll have all the warez kiddies rushing off searching for serials and cracks for those red hat isos they nabbed off kazza.
Hey, we could even get a trendy Linux reality show in the process.
It's still one up on microsoft. Their line of working hard on updating their PPC ebook reader to allow reading comercial ebooks changed rather quickly to "Whoops, sorry. Hey you can get it if you buy a new pocketPC though!".
I love how as you go down the list you see tons and tons of gameplay, then for E.T. it's only a title screen and a second of walking. Considering how much the gameplay focused less on the movie, and more on falling into wells it was probably a very good marketing decision.
That being said, I have to rather embarisingly admit to enjoying that game as a kid. And at least it taught our generation an important lesson about wells! One which I note the children of the nes age didn't pay as much heed to.
I'm really hoping for that as well. The 1.0 release has been absolutly amazing for radio level encoding for me. A show I've been off and on listening to has their archives up in real audio format, but unfourtunatly they split them and often their "whole episode" links are flawed. So I wind up having to use Stream Ripper to get the individual files. Then convert them to wav, and finally convert them to ogg before I can hear the episode without having to get up too often. I would have thought converting from real to ogg would have had an absolutly horrid end quality, but at quality level 0 it's actually sounded the same as the source. -1 on those files didnt get as good results, but from non re-encoded files it worked wonderfully for me and with equal or smaller file sizes. If some good studies started getting out there, a totally free alternitive I think would catch on quite quickly.
I think the reason it's done is because they decrease money that would be lost on the people who would not take their drugs correctly and get money from the people who don't need to see them.
I stooped to the Sun JVM and now all Java runs hella slow on my system and have an annoying tray icon to remind me.
Have you tried out IBM's JVM? I havn't noticed much of a speed difference in Linux, but about a year ago in windows the difference in IBM and Sun's speed was amazing. A java based nes emulator actually went from being too slow for me to being too fast when I changed to IBM's virtual machine. The situation might not be as bad now, but it could be worth a shot if you've not tried it yet.
the software companies have no incentive to make their prices reasonable
I think they would. I've noticed an oddly large amount of teens using XP profesional. If they suddenly had to either start paying for windows or use Linux, a pretty big chunk of the monopoly would suddenly be gone.Easily enough that microsoft would have to work to try and get it back again.
An analogy would help: Intelligent RPGs, based on story, plot and interaction, as opposed to the Diablo-style, click click
That's one of my big problems. Rpgs are pretty much the only genre of games that I really enjoy, and also something that comercially is the rarest of the rare in Linux. I ordered Neverwinter from Tuxgames very early on but aside from that I've pretty much not been able to support Linux gaming unless I bought games I had little to no interest in.
Anyways, shouldn't the FBI, CIA or NSA develop this?
:)
They already have, beware!
Though thankfully as a Linux user, I have protection.
And yes I did intend this post as a joke
Indeed, that would be the truest test- make christians actually love their neighbors as themselves. That would be a lot harder for most so-called Christians than it would be for me to do Force levitation.
For what it's worth, to me this is the best line from this entire discussion. It's extreamly sad that what to me is the single most significant and reocurring theme from the four gospels of the new testament is also easily the most ignored. Instead what most Christians seem to keep as the core of their religion is that every sunday you get up to hear someone say how much you rock, that Jesus could do magic, that people you don't like are going to burn forever, and that they have a 'get into heaven free' card.
Instead you get situations like when the mother of a friend of mine got engaged to someone of another demonination, and suddenly found herself totally snubbed from her former so called friends at her church. Which isn't to say that there aren't any Christians who actually do practice what they preach, but they seem to be as much the minority as normal christians are always claiming to be.
I've been using the 1.1 beta on Linux since it's release and haven't had any problems. I might just be lucky, but I'll often have mozilla running for three or more days at a time, and 1.1b has never crashed on me.
I'm back from late night coding induced insomnia, and my somewhat dulled mind thought the same thing for a few seconds. Now if Intel would just license sega's advanced Blast Processing technology, perhaps we finally could get that high!