You would only need to commit when you save a file and you would only need to do this rarely if, when you saved it, the application exported its "undo" history somehow.
So, for example, I have a large blob of code I edit in VIM. When I save it, I effectively get a "major version" in VIM but I also get my edits saved. So I can open it, then "undo" the lot, right back to when the file was empty or whatever.
I don't know how this would be done for VIM or other applications, but it must be theoretically possible. Imagine this for word processors, vector graphic editors, heck, even rastar image editors. Why not?
CVS (or whatever) would also support collaboration.
It sucks when my Undo history is lost, and no, I don't want to create 10,000 file versions to deal with in CVS either, for all edits. But CVS is a great start.
--By the time I get rich the world will have finished metamorphosing into a Socialist state and Ferraris will be, like, way taboo.
- One election monitor cannot monitor all paper votes as the paper voting process is geographically disbursed. Online they can. - A paper audit trail is useless as it does not confirm vote inclusion. Online voting can via a PKI voting tool. Make that an OSS voting tool. - A paper trail is useless as any losing candidate will want the paper ballots counted, and so we have paper elections again + cost of the electronic channels. - Internet voting is in its infancy. Touch screen voting is 20 yrs old and very tired; it ain't going to get much better. Internet voting, along with IPv6 yadda yadda gives lots of room for strong systems to evolve. - Allowing multiple voting and multiple channels would help prevent coercion of remote voters ("family voting") as well as the Digital Divide. - More voting convenience will allow governments to make voting compulsory. It's your civic duty. Get off your couch and go into the study and vote!
Anyone know how over-dubbed MiniDV and other digital tape formats might allow recovery of lost material? If an HDD data can be recovered "three writes down", then what about digital tape?
Well, I hired someone who stunk. She had excellent creds, fluency in several languages / systems and answered several questions about our system very well etc.
That interview was the high point of her productivity. We went on to answer piles of questions from her about complex data structures and many things basic. I had to pay out her contract and send her home; it was dreadful. She will not write in to this discussion whining about getting fired.
What we want is some kind of system which stimulates the public to understand what it is they are voting for. Small, incremental elections would at least mean less is at stake.
Voting for referenda in the manner you suggest (lots of polls online etc) also means one might have problems without another Florida.
At the moment via two presidential candidates, you vote left or right.
If the "granularity" of the elections was finer, there'd be more resolution.
Australia uses STV voting; it is very hard to count and often a single ballot is handled and recounted many times as voting preferences are redistributed. There is plenty of room for mistakes.
A recount in the late 90s in the Aust Capital Territory (which prompted them to try e-voting) cost a dollar a voter and took a month.
In the US, millions of paper votes go missing each election.
With people like David Chaum on the case, I don't think evoting will be worse than paper voting. Most likely, once Diebold and a few other idiots are out of the way, and in the current climate of trials and scrutiny, e-voting will become great.
Well, for i-voting at least, isn't the problem the same as the "what software is that server running"?
How does one confirm one is not talking to an un-hacked version of mybank.com? Check the ssl certificate?!
Even checking MD5s of the software before/after execution does not prove the image in memory has not been fiddled. And we need to be able to do this as remote clients...
(I wouldn't astroturf like this if I didn't have some ideas....albeit fangled ones)
Any one who loses the election will request a recount... of all the paper ballots.
What if N paper ballots/receipts go missing, with N > than the winning margin? A lot seem to go missing currently.
There is some consensus that there does not need to be a paper audit trail at the voter level. I agree; there are too many voters and our 18th c paper system is already badly creaking under the weight.
Hm. Why then, does someone not write a benign Linux worm? Or a cheese worm? It could propograte around (to some maximum reproductions), report back somewhere and then delete itself. It would report back how many systems there are with common exploits. I can't believe this doesn't happen. If it were another cheese worm, it'd patch the systems as well.
Voting is your civic duty, just like driving within the road rules. In Australia you just get fined if you get busted avoiding either of these.
Really, compulsory voting is the way. The candidates would focus more on the issues rather than just getting people to vote. There'd be less fraud as there would be a greater incentive (and so funding) for a more accurate voter register. Everything would swing slightly to the Left. Man, we need that now.
Countless kindergardens/churches/etc would sell twice as many hotdogs at polling booths.
Bush would not have got in.
C'mon, cooperate on just this one thing!
Can any of you recall a prototype system which I have a hazy memory of seeing in a doco about user interface design around 1990-1992?
It featured a pretty amazing system I have never heard or seen anything of since. It went like this:
Computer and ceiling-mounted vid shoots on to white table top with standard windowing desktop image.
User moves arm and hands to "click" (touch) and "drag" (move finger) the icons. An image processing system via a camera (also in roof) does the differencing between the projected image and the captured image of the desk to get arm, finger movements.
They dude also "pulled up" a "virtual keyboard" and typed away. This was the image of a keyboard.
It got pretty out of hand when he put a real book on the desktop, then used two fingers to "select" a paragraph of text (system shaded a rectangle over the real book page!) and then he "dragged" this off into a virtual document!
It was a mock-up, but they asserted that the controlled arrangement of being able to difference the images would allow this kind of OCR and other interface stuff with current technology (early 90's).
It's pretty hysterical to watch.
Anyone heard of this?
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I have heard other people put stuff in the oven for this reason. Then they turn on the oven. I saw a baked Compaq Armada like this. But then, it didn't get stolen. It still worked fine after 10 mins at 180C in a fan-forced oven. If you do this, take off the ON knob. I'd like to see comparative tests for Intel and AMD baked this way (as opposed to removing the heat sink). Let's see the Intel try and cool off by lowering the clock speed now.
I add that the ability to scavenge heat from other sources, (and the sun perhaps) means this machine turns traditionally useless energy into kinetic energy with no moving parts.
It's quite a claim. I'd be keen to see an efficiency comparison with, say, a standard steam-piston driven water screw.
When people come up with gadgets to convert latent heat into electricity etc, it's usually 10% efficient.
Difficult though. If a web vote looks like a legit vote (has registration, requires eligibility, authenticity, scrutineers etc) and has a legally binding outcome, it's web vote, no?
Or is the Swiss vote the first? I does seem to be the first public vote, as opposed to a vote among those with some private membership of some kind (Caldera Club, Ariz Dems, Student Unions, AGMs, Directors Boards etc).
There have now been stacks of legally binding WWW votes... since at least 1997. I think the first was actually a student election via intranet at Stanford in 1996.
Diesel creates PM10 pollution. This stands for "particles less than or equal to 10 microns in size". It may produce less CO2, but the PM10s have the most dramatic effect on lungs. A tuned diesel engine produces less, but if you see that plume of black smoke, your normal dust filtering ability in the nose and throat is letting the tiny particles deep into your bronchi. -ant
--the most common song of all time is not "Happy Birthday", but "king of the castle", or more infamously "nyah-nyah-ne-nyah-nyah".
I think the parent refers to the fact that Java runs in emulation... so while it's byte codes are interpreted once, the resulting blob that executes still does so as a state machine. The assumption is the state machine has a huge overhead not borne by "native" binary excutables on the same platform.
When Java first started getting hot, I went to a seminar by David Flanagan. He suggested that because there was this interpretation just before runtime, there was room for a new kind of runtime optimisation which would let some java code run _faster_ than native code. He must have been referring to memory allocation or something?
Since I gave up on java when I learned PERL, I can't confirm what David said. Perl, on the other hand, does run pretty slow. A basic cruel comparison of a subroutine call loop in Perl and a function call loop in C (both doing 10M calls) shows Perl to be running at 27 wallclock secs and C at.38 of a second.. so about a hundred times slower. Still, many of Perl's neat internals such as regexps, grep, map etc run faster than this as they are linked in code. It's the overhead of the state machine that is the issue.
Hrrmmf! Our little java app with a for loop calling a method to test this did it in 0.685 seconds. Oh well, case in point. Spose it would need to instantiate an object to do any real work though!
Dear Mr. Shatner, I have heard an amazing compilation of songs you sung with Leonard Nimoy. One of them is about Bilbo Baggins from Lord Of The Rings and a Benzedrine version of Mr. Tamborine Man. Can you tell me about any other wacky (I hope this is the right word) projects you have done like this? PS I think Trek has been a great vehicle for Shakespearean acting. It's a pity television acting is so naturalistic these days. -aa sig:deadpad emoticons:-| envy:-| sarcasm:-| irony:-| farse:-| pathos
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The pictures at least are on
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Wayback does not have the videos, even from 2000... disk space issue? I think they only have 200T!
Forget your IT skills and languages when travelling the world. Instead, practice your Tae Kwondo for the LA Airport Blue Bus to St. Monica!
Also, take a partner overseas; there's nothing more lonely than being on Pont Neuf alone. I enjoy travel even more now married. At least the two of us can huddle together when there is some crazed drug addict on a bus.
The ball would have keys on the bottom; basically qwerty but looking from above, Q and T are switched, P and Y etc as hands are now facing up.
This is the position one holds a speherical object. Reaching all keys is achieved by pivoting the wrists on the flat plane, another natural move. Ball would be quite large.
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Reviewing your vote would be supervised; you'd have to provide photo ID yadda yadda.
Still does not prove your vote was actually counted unless some other receipting service is used.
You would only need to commit when you save a file and you would only need to do this rarely if, when you saved it, the application exported its "undo" history somehow.
So, for example, I have a large blob of code I edit in VIM. When I save it, I effectively get a "major version" in VIM but I also get my edits saved. So I can open it, then "undo" the lot, right back to when the file was empty or whatever.
I don't know how this would be done for VIM or other applications, but it must be theoretically possible. Imagine this for word processors, vector graphic editors, heck, even rastar image editors. Why not?
CVS (or whatever) would also support collaboration.
It sucks when my Undo history is lost, and no, I don't want to create 10,000 file versions to deal with in CVS either, for all edits. But CVS is a great start.
--By the time I get rich the world will have finished metamorphosing into a Socialist state and Ferraris will be, like, way taboo.
- One election monitor cannot monitor all paper votes as the paper voting process is geographically disbursed. Online they can.
- A paper audit trail is useless as it does not confirm vote inclusion. Online voting can via a PKI voting tool. Make that an OSS voting tool.
- A paper trail is useless as any losing candidate will want the paper ballots counted, and so we have paper elections again + cost of the electronic channels.
- Internet voting is in its infancy. Touch screen voting is 20 yrs old and very tired; it ain't going to get much better. Internet voting, along with IPv6 yadda yadda gives lots of room for strong systems to evolve.
- Allowing multiple voting and multiple channels would help prevent coercion of remote voters ("family voting") as well as the Digital Divide.
- More voting convenience will allow governments to make voting compulsory. It's your civic duty. Get off your couch and go into the study and vote!
--I like yummy stuff.
I can't resist this redundant comment:
1. send photon
2. ????
3. receive photon, $$$$$ !
-adam
Anyone know how over-dubbed MiniDV and other digital tape formats might allow recovery of lost material? If an HDD data can be recovered "three writes down", then what about digital tape?
Well, I hired someone who stunk. She had excellent creds, fluency in several languages / systems and answered several questions about our system very well etc.
That interview was the high point of her productivity. We went on to answer piles of questions from her about complex data structures and many things basic. I had to pay out her contract and send her home; it was dreadful. She will not write in to this discussion whining about getting fired.
The key is the quality of the candidates and how much effort they expend to educate the people.
...allow citizens to initiate laws and amendments).
If the the candidates are crap, no one votes. If no one understands the candidates, no one votes.
However, if the System works a bit more like you suggest and in is fact done in Switzerland and championed in the US (here
What we want is some kind of system which stimulates the public to understand what it is they are voting for. Small, incremental elections would at least mean less is at stake.
Voting for referenda in the manner you suggest (lots of polls online etc) also means one might have problems without another Florida.
At the moment via two presidential candidates, you vote left or right. If the "granularity" of the elections was finer, there'd be more resolution.
(Huh! pun and geek metaphor in one)
Australia uses STV voting; it is very hard to count and often a single ballot is handled and recounted many times as voting preferences are redistributed. There is plenty of room for mistakes.
A recount in the late 90s in the Aust Capital Territory (which prompted them to try e-voting) cost a dollar a voter and took a month.
In the US, millions of paper votes go missing each election.
With people like David Chaum on the case, I don't think evoting will be worse than paper voting. Most likely, once Diebold and a few other idiots are out of the way, and in the current climate of trials and scrutiny, e-voting will become great.
Well, for i-voting at least, isn't the problem the same as the "what software is that server running"?
How does one confirm one is not talking to an un-hacked version of mybank.com? Check the ssl certificate?!
Even checking MD5s of the software before/after execution does not prove the image in memory has not been fiddled. And we need to be able to do this as remote clients...
(I wouldn't astroturf like this if I didn't have some ideas....albeit fangled ones)
Any one who loses the election will request a recount... of all the paper ballots.
What if N paper ballots/receipts go missing, with N > than the winning margin? A lot seem to go missing currently. There is some consensus that there does not need to be a paper audit trail at the voter level. I agree; there are too many voters and our 18th c paper system is already badly creaking under the weight.
There is another solution, albeit a non-technical one (perish the thought): devolve critical election or representatives to referenda (with some exceptions; not everything can be put to popular referenda).
The Internet was meant for this.
Hm. Why then, does someone not write a benign Linux worm? Or a cheese worm? It could propograte around (to some maximum reproductions), report back somewhere and then delete itself. It would report back how many systems there are with common exploits. I can't believe this doesn't happen. If it were another cheese worm, it'd patch the systems as well.
Voting is your civic duty, just like driving within the road rules. In Australia you just get fined if you get busted avoiding either of these.
Really, compulsory voting is the way. The candidates would focus more on the issues rather than just getting people to vote. There'd be less fraud as there would be a greater incentive (and so funding) for a more accurate voter register. Everything would swing slightly to the Left. Man, we need that now.
Countless kindergardens/churches/etc would sell twice as many hotdogs at polling booths.
Bush would not have got in. C'mon, cooperate on just this one thing!
Can any of you recall a prototype system which I have a hazy memory of seeing in a doco about user interface design around 1990-1992?
It featured a pretty amazing system I have never heard or seen anything of since. It went like this:
Computer and ceiling-mounted vid shoots on to white table top with standard windowing desktop image.
User moves arm and hands to "click" (touch) and "drag" (move finger) the icons. An image processing system via a camera (also in roof) does the differencing between the projected image and the captured image of the desk to get arm, finger movements.
They dude also "pulled up" a "virtual keyboard" and typed away. This was the image of a keyboard.
It got pretty out of hand when he put a real book on the desktop, then used two fingers to "select" a paragraph of text (system shaded a rectangle over the real book page!) and then he "dragged" this off into a virtual document!
It was a mock-up, but they asserted that the controlled arrangement of being able to difference the images would allow this kind of OCR and other interface stuff with current technology (early 90's).
It's pretty hysterical to watch.
Anyone heard of this?
I have heard other people put stuff in the oven for this reason. Then they turn on the oven.
I saw a baked Compaq Armada like this. But then, it didn't get stolen.
It still worked fine after 10 mins at 180C in a fan-forced oven. If you do this, take off the ON knob.
I'd like to see comparative tests for Intel and AMD baked this way (as opposed to removing the heat sink). Let's see the Intel try and cool off by lowering the clock speed now.
I read a while ago life may have originated around super-heated steam vents on the bottom of the sea.
This makes me think early life forms might have evolved to zoom around in steam-jet body shells.
Evolution selects for stuff like this a lot.
nowarnowarnowarnowarnowarnowarnowarnowar
I add that the ability to scavenge heat from other sources, (and the sun perhaps) means this machine turns traditionally useless energy into kinetic energy with no moving parts.
It's quite a claim. I'd be keen to see an efficiency comparison with, say, a standard steam-piston driven water screw.
When people come up with gadgets to convert latent heat into electricity etc, it's usually 10% efficient.
And the bit about shock waves is a bit dodge.
--no war--no war--no war--no war--no war--no war
Difficult though. If a web vote looks like a legit vote (has registration, requires eligibility, authenticity, scrutineers etc) and has a legally binding outcome, it's web vote, no?
Or is the Swiss vote the first? I does seem to be the first public vote, as opposed to a vote among those with some private membership of some kind (Caldera Club, Ariz Dems, Student Unions, AGMs, Directors Boards etc).
There have now been stacks of legally binding WWW votes... since at least 1997. I think the first was actually a student election via intranet at Stanford in 1996.
Diesel creates PM10 pollution. This stands for "particles less than or equal to 10 microns in size". It may produce less CO2, but the PM10s have the most dramatic effect on lungs. A tuned diesel engine produces less, but if you see that plume of black smoke, your normal dust filtering ability in the nose and throat is letting the tiny particles deep into your bronchi.
-ant
--the most common song of all time is not "Happy Birthday", but "king of the castle", or more infamously "nyah-nyah-ne-nyah-nyah".
/* winMain */
#include <stdio.h>
#include office.c
main(){char *machine;
machine= (char) malloc(sizeof(char) * 100000000000);
...
I think the parent refers to the fact that Java runs in emulation... so while it's byte codes are interpreted once, the resulting blob that executes still does so as a state machine.
.38 of a second.. so about a hundred times slower. Still, many of Perl's neat internals such as regexps, grep, map etc run faster than this as they are linked in code. It's the overhead of the state machine that is the issue.
The assumption is the state machine has a huge overhead not borne by "native" binary excutables on the same platform.
When Java first started getting hot, I went to a seminar by David Flanagan. He suggested that because there was this interpretation just before runtime, there was room for a new kind of runtime optimisation which would let some java code run _faster_ than native code. He must have been referring to memory allocation or something?
Since I gave up on java when I learned PERL, I can't confirm what David said. Perl, on the other hand, does run pretty slow. A basic cruel comparison of a subroutine call loop in Perl and a function call loop in C (both doing 10M calls) shows Perl to be running at 27 wallclock secs and C at
Hrrmmf! Our little java app with a for loop calling a method to test this did it in 0.685 seconds. Oh well, case in point. Spose it would need to instantiate an object to do any real work though!
Dear Mr. Shatner, I have heard an amazing compilation of songs you sung with Leonard Nimoy. One of them is about Bilbo Baggins from Lord Of The Rings and a Benzedrine version of Mr. Tamborine Man. Can you tell me about any other wacky (I hope this is the right word) projects you have done like this? :-| envy :-| sarcasm :-| irony :-| farse :-| pathos
PS I think Trek has been a great vehicle for Shakespearean acting. It's a pity television acting is so naturalistic these days.
-aa
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The pictures at least are on wayback machine Wayback does not have the videos, even from 2000... disk space issue? I think they only have 200T!
Forget your IT skills and languages when travelling the world. Instead, practice your Tae Kwondo for the LA Airport Blue Bus to St. Monica! Also, take a partner overseas; there's nothing more lonely than being on Pont Neuf alone. I enjoy travel even more now married. At least the two of us can huddle together when there is some crazed drug addict on a bus.
The ball would have keys on the bottom; basically qwerty but looking from above, Q and T are switched, P and Y etc as hands are now facing up. This is the position one holds a speherical object. Reaching all keys is achieved by pivoting the wrists on the flat plane, another natural move. Ball would be quite large.
elpj.com's Laser Turntable, "Investment" link :
"Pure Analog Sound :
The Laser Turntable does not digitize the signal at any point in the reproduction."
Analogue audio meets the 80's!
adam
--I called my two cats Wax and Wayne.