If the Sophos group really wanted to make something useful, they could try actually writing it for the most problematic OS (Windows), and not just OS's that are mostly immune to viruses anyway.
So you would rather have this software running on the same machine the virus is running using the various back doors M$ has left in place therefore bypassing/de-activating any virus protection?. The parent has a machine which, as you state, is more immune from viruses which is the ideal place to have the virus protection. At least this way it can help to prevent any virus ever getting to the insecure OS part of your network.
These services were designed with one overriding purpose -- to exploit the value in copyrighted music for their own profit without compensating the creators," said Edward P. Murphy
I re-installed WinME on my pc the other day as well as Mandrake 8.2 on a seperate partition (new hard drive for those wondering why I was re-installing..) anyway for windows i had to do the following...
1. Install ME (with numerous reboots...)
2. Install VIA motherboard drivers
3. Install SBlive drivers
4. Install EPSON 740 drivers
5. Install NVIDIA drivers
6. Install Realtek 8139 drivers
7. Install Office
with mandrake and using most of the default options I only had to do the following..
1. Install Mandrake
2. Install NVIDIA RPM's
everything else was installed for me (Printer drivers,Network modules,sound modules,openoffice)
can it be much easier than that? Even my girlfriend could install Mandrake!.
why? Do MSCE's work for free when you buy windows?
At the end of the day this is all about saving on software costs. Which ever way you go you still need to pay staff to maintain it!. By going the propriatary way you will end up spending huge amounts in licence fee's everytime M$ decides it needs more money and releases a new version of their OS/Office suite etc..
With budgets getting tighter every year companies are looking for every possible way of saving a few $. If opensource can provide this saving then more and more companies will switch..
I personally think ALL goverments should consider using opensource software to save money which could be spent better elsewhere like Health,Education,Transport etc...
Yes it is!. I use perl standalone almost on a daily basis for collecting info from a mainframe and placing in a database. Which in turn is used by perl/CGI for a web front end. Which in turn used by more standalone perl scripts to create the new JCL to run on the mainframe..
Perl is the only language I found that offerered the needed flexability to do all this and save day's of work.
Unfortunatly this feature cannot be implemented within the application as the bug was caused by the windows OS. If you wish to re-enable this feature then you will need to change some of the kernel code (just delete a few random lines here and there!) and re-compile. Once you have performed this task you will find that most(if not all) of your linux applications will act just like their windows counter-parts.
Yes but what if Dr. X is the only surgeon who could save someone's life and he was at the cinema? He wouldn't recieve the call for help!. Whould the cinema be liable for this?
rseuhs is right! Do people really think that all the companies in the world are going to use this crap and risk loosing a large % of customers? Are the likes of amazon and others using linux just going to give in and jump back in bed with micro$oft?
And on top of that it is going to be 3-4 years before this is available? You can't miss the news every month about more companies moving over to Linux because of costs and security? With companies cutting costs left right and center do you think they will suddenly be able to afford to go back to M$?
This will fail because they will be too late! If they tried this a few years ago it may of worked but not now!
Do people really think M$ should be controlling this sort of environment? Look at their past history of security! For gods sake there was a post on theregister just today about security flaws in the media player again! Something about running scripts automatically! For gods sake why is a media player running scripts in the background?!?!
And lastly I can't believe Intel & AMD are really going to force all their customers to use M$, Think of all the linux clusters filled with hundreds of their processors. They would loose the custom of the companies that set these farms up. Would they really want to loose the $$$ as they all go to alternative processors without this virus in them..
M$ called linux a cancer but this is the real cancer. And a Cancer that we must stop before it spreads. Write your letters to AMD and Intel telling them what a Big mistake they are making by jumping into M$ bed. Tell them that you won't but their processors. If enough people do this then maybe they would re-consider this suicidal move..
I'll second CCL computers, I use them all the time (In fact I bought a new cooler from them today!!) and the stuff they sell is good. Plus they are only a couple of miles from where I work so I can pick parts up in my dinner hour!.
maybe you should add for closed-source software that if you found that by tapping on the front left indicator 3 times unlocked the doors and started the engine because of the closed nature and the bonnet being welded shut that you would have to wait until the next upgrade for this bug to be fixed.
Now with the open-source you would be able to open the bonnet and make a fix and submit that fix for everyone to implement keeping everyones car secure!.
Slashdot Mirror
it looks like they have virtual desktops! That alone, IMO, is fairly big news.
And I bet Microsoft will claim it as their invention?!?!? I wonder where they got^H^H^Hnicked the idea from???
Shades.
One amusing error I remember was when you typed
RENUMBER 1,0
you would get the plain and simple error message
Silly.
I always found that amusing...
or in this topics case just run Outlook..
If the Sophos group really wanted to make something useful, they could try actually writing it for the most problematic OS (Windows), and not just OS's that are mostly immune to viruses anyway.
So you would rather have this software running on the same machine the virus is running using the various back doors M$ has left in place therefore bypassing/de-activating any virus protection?. The parent has a machine which, as you state, is more immune from viruses which is the ideal place to have the virus protection. At least this way it can help to prevent any virus ever getting to the insecure OS part of your network.
Just my 0.02$
Mark.
If it was the news that Jon Snow had just read out did you also notice the HUGE smile on his face when he said it!!??!
Made me laugh out loud...
These services were designed with one overriding purpose -- to exploit the value in copyrighted music for their own profit without compensating the creators," said Edward P. Murphy
isn't this exactly what the RIAA do?!??!
It could be worse... The next newsflash could be "Microsoft XP to be use used to control next NASA shuttle"...
(Hopefully Bill we get a free ticket!)
Is this the transcript of Bill Gates talking to the NSA??
is it me or has Stephen King died a lot recently?
I agree totally..
I re-installed WinME on my pc the other day as well as Mandrake 8.2 on a seperate partition (new hard drive for those wondering why I was re-installing..) anyway for windows i had to do the following...
1. Install ME (with numerous reboots...)
2. Install VIA motherboard drivers
3. Install SBlive drivers
4. Install EPSON 740 drivers
5. Install NVIDIA drivers
6. Install Realtek 8139 drivers
7. Install Office
with mandrake and using most of the default options I only had to do the following..
1. Install Mandrake
2. Install NVIDIA RPM's
everything else was installed for me (Printer drivers,Network modules,sound modules,openoffice)
can it be much easier than that? Even my girlfriend could install Mandrake!.
Sorry this maybe a stupid question but I keep hearing about this 'prior art' and have no idea what it means?
Could someone possibly explain?
Thanks
Mark.
why? Do MSCE's work for free when you buy windows?
At the end of the day this is all about saving on software costs. Which ever way you go you still need to pay staff to maintain it!. By going the propriatary way you will end up spending huge amounts in licence fee's everytime M$ decides it needs more money and releases a new version of their OS/Office suite etc..
With budgets getting tighter every year companies are looking for every possible way of saving a few $. If opensource can provide this saving then more and more companies will switch..
I personally think ALL goverments should consider using opensource software to save money which could be spent better elsewhere like Health,Education,Transport etc...
is that freedom from M$ controlling your machine or freedom from Hackers/Scriptkiddies controlling your machine through numerous security problems??
hehehehe
if it can afford to throw money everywhere everytime some goverment mentions 'opensource'
hopefully the peruvian goverment will take the money and plough it into the opensource development.
well we can wish anyway!
whoops... must of lost track of the threads...
Can be but isn't
Yes it is!. I use perl standalone almost on a daily basis for collecting info from a mainframe and placing in a database. Which in turn is used by perl/CGI for a web front end. Which in turn used by more standalone perl scripts to create the new JCL to run on the mainframe..
Perl is the only language I found that offerered the needed flexability to do all this and save day's of work.
Mark.
I installed Mandrake 8.2 on my main pc and the first thing my girlfriend said was that this new version of Windows is a lot easier to use!..
This shouldn't be a problem here in the UK as most of the sheep have been shot,piled up and burnt...
damn.. wrong sheep...
well hopefully the goverment will wake up and realise windows is a dangerous virus and start exterminating the sheep to prevent it's spread..
well we can hope anyway...
Unfortunatly this feature cannot be implemented within the application as the bug was caused by the windows OS. If you wish to re-enable this feature then you will need to change some of the kernel code (just delete a few random lines here and there!) and re-compile. Once you have performed this task you will find that most(if not all) of your linux applications will act just like their windows counter-parts.
Yes but what if Dr. X is the only surgeon who could save someone's life and he was at the cinema? He wouldn't recieve the call for help!. Whould the cinema be liable for this?
rseuhs is right! Do people really think that all the companies in the world are going to use this crap and risk loosing a large % of customers? Are the likes of amazon and others using linux just going to give in and jump back in bed with micro$oft?
And on top of that it is going to be 3-4 years before this is available? You can't miss the news every month about more companies moving over to Linux because of costs and security? With companies cutting costs left right and center do you think they will suddenly be able to afford to go back to M$?
This will fail because they will be too late! If they tried this a few years ago it may of worked but not now!
Do people really think M$ should be controlling this sort of environment? Look at their past history of security! For gods sake there was a post on theregister just today about security flaws in the media player again! Something about running scripts automatically! For gods sake why is a media player running scripts in the background?!?!
And lastly I can't believe Intel & AMD are really going to force all their customers to use M$, Think of all the linux clusters filled with hundreds of their processors. They would loose the custom of the companies that set these farms up. Would they really want to loose the $$$ as they all go to alternative processors without this virus in them..
M$ called linux a cancer but this is the real cancer. And a Cancer that we must stop before it spreads. Write your letters to AMD and Intel telling them what a Big mistake they are making by jumping into M$ bed. Tell them that you won't but their processors. If enough people do this then maybe they would re-consider this suicidal move..
Mark.
come on.. do you really think that Bill could install Linux.. He would be confused by having a choice what is to be installed.
you mean that article was written by someone who's pay is somehow related to the borg^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmicrosoft?!? I would never of noticed!
I'll second CCL computers, I use them all the time (In fact I bought a new cooler from them today!!) and the stuff they sell is good.
Plus they are only a couple of miles from where I work so I can pick parts up in my dinner hour!.
Mark.
maybe you should add for closed-source software that if you found that by tapping on the front left indicator 3 times unlocked the doors and started the engine because of the closed nature and the bonnet being welded shut that you would have to wait until the next upgrade for this bug to be fixed.
Now with the open-source you would be able to open the bonnet and make a fix and submit that fix for everyone to implement keeping everyones car secure!.
Mark