AMD's stock may have never grown, but they have never really been in the leadreship position before either. Well once, a couple of summers ago, when they first released the Athalon, they had a decicive lead over Intel in both clock speed and performance. That lasted only about 6 months until that lead forced Intel to release the P IV way before it was ready. In fact, early P IV's failed to outperform the exising P III's.
Now, however, Intel is adopting AMD standards, so the roles are well reversed, and I suspect that we may soon see some amazing growth in AMD's stock price; especially if AMD continues to be profitable. What if Dell were to start shipping AMD? That would of course require AMD to be able to provide processors in the kind of quantity that a monster like Dell would need but it seems to be worth speculating on. The shares that I picked up at 4$ and 7$ are looking pretty fucking good to me now.
Heh, Dell does whatever their customers want, peroid. If enough of Dell's customers want Opteron, Dell will provide. Some comments from AMD's CEO lead me to believe that a LOT of Dell's customers are wanting Opteron. In fact AMD's CEO said that he knew of 2 very large Dell customers were refusing further purchases until Dell could provide Opteron products.
This in my estimation, as an American, is not nessasarily a bad thing. That entire region has, due to American dependace on the natural resources, and a relative isolation from American military and political pressure been able to act in a rather bad manner towards their own people and the world in general. Bringing American influence to the barganing table in the region, strikes me as a good thing.
"I'm still wondering what "fair" means as applied to Microsoft, as in "Microsoft is not playing fair". How are they not playing fair? Is bundling a media play with windows somehow unfair to the consumer?"
Anti-trust laws are not about consumers or customers. Anti-trust laws primarily focus on competition. The consumer benifts like, lower prices and better products, are a happy side effect of a Free Market.
Ask yourself this: How does bundling a media player into the monopoly produdt affet your ablity to start your own business creating and selling your own media player? That is how you are hurt by bundling. Consumers are hurt because you are unable to create and sell a competing product. In fact, I would argue that a large part of the "bubble" bursting, is the stigma that as soon as any person or company deveops a software product that becomes nominally successfull or profifitable Microsoft eventually comes along and destorys you.
"Do you know what the point of copyright is? It's to encourage people to create. It's not to enforce some pre-existing control over ideas and creations - in nature, once these are disseminated, they're part of the world and the creator loses control. Copyright gives creators exclusive right to copy/distribute their works for a certain term. A certain term! The idea is that after a reasonable period of profit (HA! Reasonable 200 years ago maybe...) the creator loses control over the work so that the world can further benefit from it and build on it. When we look at ancient shows or games which the owning corporation doesn't see fit to release in any legal form (and in particular, a form which allows legal preservation), morally there is no reason to restrict what the public does with that game."
History supports this as well. Think how much of out past media is lost forever because the crators did not take care of it once that media's primary earning peroid was past. Most of radio and TV's early years are only rememberd because some individual ILLEGALY kept some kinnescopes that some early TV exec thought were worthless.
With copyrights extending to infinity now, who is going to look after what will be our future treasures, if not us? The social contract that is copyright is becoming a failure in that classic media is percived as a threat to new releases. A twisted example is that based on sales and install data the greatest competitor to Windows XP Professional is not Linux or Apple but Windows 2000.
Think how if the source code for some of the best classic games had been opened up after a reasonable time what the MOD community could have done with them. In fact most new releases of games are just an old concept with the latest graphics added on (usually destroying the gameplay that made it a classic in the process). I mean, just look at MOO III!
So, true. The last of the Apha's benchmarks was truely amazing. One of our directors where I work was ex-Alpha and hammered home how superior technology can be beat by superior marketing aided by some bad business decisions.
Too bad the guy learned, what I consider to be the wrong lesson, and turned into a complete Microsoft toady.
But how long can Microsoft delay? If we get to the point where both AMD and Intel are shipping 64 bit enabled processors on all new computers what happens when some jackass at Id releases a 64 bit optimized version of Doom III. I certianly would be temped to finally kick the Windows habit and go cold turkey with a 64 bit Linux distro.
Perhaps one of those AMAZING Knoppix distros would help me in a Patch like transition...
Ah, but is it even copyrighted? I thought propriatary source was more of a trade secret? Was the source officially published? I think that is what you do to get the defacto copyright. Is not that the tradeoff? Publish publicly the IP and you get copyright protection? Is this not more like CSS which is not more or less public domain now?
Well, be fair. The Sims has been out, what FOUR years now? So it was probably written to run primarily on Win 9x where all users run as root. So to complain that it requires an XP user to run as Admin instead of limited user is a bit disingenous as it would have been difficult to deveop it for and OS that was not due for two more OS generations.
"Until a 64-bit version of Windows comes out, I don't see this mattering all that much. 64-bit doesn't mean anything to the masses of end users, just the developers. I don't care if my computer is 2-bit or 1000-bit as long as it works well."
But memory is cheap and you can run 32 bit windows on an Opteron/Athalon 64. However you can not run greater than 4 gig of ram on a 32 bit processor. To some end users going from 4 gig to 8 or more is going to matter and in the future it is going to matter more even if your primary funcion is running 32 bit apps on a 32 bit OS.
Sory was 299 w/o a mail in rebate. My guess would be that a loss leader became just a loss. Just wait 3 days and it will change again. Prolly a 50$ instant rebate. They switch that stuff around all the time. Marketing I guess they call it. I share your sentiment in that I will not buy anyting that has a mail in rebate.
Frodo did not destroy the ring. At the peripice, he claims the ring as his own and choosed to NOT destroy the ring. Golum destroys it. So you thought wrong.
Here's a trick. Go to www.dell.com, select small business, and select servers and then poweredge (I think). There you will see a system for 300 bucks, or less.
The site is a little vague on the system details but I have it on good authority that it ships with a pci video card but has an AGP port to put your latest and greatest video card in. You can get it with windows (server), linux, free dos. or, get this, NO OS.
This may be a loss leader to get there server sales numbers up, so I don't know how long it will last if too may people start ordering them.
My uncle X-ferred all of my grandparents Super-8 to video a few years back. He just set up the projector and screen in his basement and let his video camera output to the VCR. The reslut was perfect video. However I think the super 8 is higher res than video, so while the video looked like it was shot for a TV show, I don't think the quality was as good as the 50 year old film it was presenting.
Well, with SCOX having 13.8 shares outstanding, a stock price of ~$16, sueing for 30 Billion, some one buying the stock would have to believe their chances of winning are better than 136 to 1 or that someone even duber than them would buy the stock later at an even higer price. Of course with the funny legal payment the effective odds get much worse.
Of course some us Slashdotters would feel that over the long term, one's money would be better spent at the roulette wheel. At least there, you get free drinks while the house takes your money.
I disagree. If Microsoft disappeard tomorrow, who besides the investors would care? My copy of windows or Office would not cease to funcion. I would no longer have to pay a licence fee for the OS on a new computer that I buy. Those poor souls who signed up for Licencing 6.0 could stop sending thier monthly check. The only people who would be without jobs would be MS sales and MS developers. Even MCSE's would still have work.
The only threat I can imagine is that some critical exploit or bug is could be found and without the source, no one could fix it. So I guess the buggieness MS code is the only saving grace I can think of to justify thier existance.
I was inclined to call bullshit, but Google proved me wrong. I still find it hard to belive that some similar form of adhesive tape was not used before the military application and naming.
Corporations protect shareholders from corporate missdeeds, not the officers of the company. If McBride and the rest of the clown car occupants conduct illegal activity they are not protected by the Limited Liabilty.
"M$ will lose a lot more ground to us if they do that".
I think you understate the situation. If an open source OS existed that would run all Windows compatible applications natively, MS would lose half of their revenue overnight.
Why would any person or business pay 400$ per seat to run their Windows based applications, if a free (in both beer and speach) solution existed. Not to mention that all of the super secret API's that have been ported to XP would be exposed and no one would develop to MS OSs but to the exixting 98 standards.
This option would be game over, goodbye monopoly hello real competition.
Moderating at 0 or lower is hard. It takes me all evening to read through a given thread at 2 much less 0. I tried modding at -1 once and could not get halfway through a thread. I guess I should not be modding since I don't have the time to do it properly.
Usually I cheat and just set my "friends" to +2 and mod that way. I guess that is more than a little hipocritacal as some kind souls move a post of mine from -1 to +5 once.
I will try to be more egalitaran when modding in the future.
I see a kernel of relevace in what you say. Americans of any national decent have a radically different culture than that of their cultural heratage. Americans, of all nationalities, as a rule are highly competitive, confrontational and indiviualistic.
Working for a company that is in the middle of conducting and outsourcing project, both to test the viability of such a venture and to keep pace from the threat of our competitors moving in the same direction, we have noticed the weird cultural differeces come into play.
Where an USAian is able to operate on little direction and come to a solution for a given project, the offshore workers require and inordinate amount of supervion and direction for what an in house worker would consider even the simplest task. This results in a lager demand on the more skilled and expensive workers and a net loss over all.
In fact, (in my limited experience) non-native nationals, even if more highly trained, also seem to lack this innovative spirit for independant operation common to native born Americans.
I do not mean to appeat bigoted against forign labor, as I am sure that tallented and competant pepole are there in equal numbers to here in the States. Also, I'm sure that if the roles were reversed the cultural differences would be just as detrimental to good communication on a project. However the cultural differences are a MAJOR impediment to the efficient operaion of a project and add unplanned for costs to the local vs. oursource equation.
Of course, the falling dollar is a big help too in changing that equation as well.
I would agrue that the majority of all inovation comes from the trenches and that good ideas largely are adopted, coopted, or outright stolen by management and engineering. Of course management and engineering are good at implementing new good ideas, but when it comes around for recognition, the guy who proposed the new idea is rarly remembered.
Now, I have seen exceptions to this where the innovator had already implemented the good idea and the management had just put their seal of approval on the idea and started to take credit but it took the original innovator screaming bloody murder to get a fair share of the credit.
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AMD's stock may have never grown, but they have never really been in the leadreship position before either. Well once, a couple of summers ago, when they first released the Athalon, they had a decicive lead over Intel in both clock speed and performance. That lasted only about 6 months until that lead forced Intel to release the P IV way before it was ready. In fact, early P IV's failed to outperform the exising P III's.
Now, however, Intel is adopting AMD standards, so the roles are well reversed, and I suspect that we may soon see some amazing growth in AMD's stock price; especially if AMD continues to be profitable. What if Dell were to start shipping AMD? That would of course require AMD to be able to provide processors in the kind of quantity that a monster like Dell would need but it seems to be worth speculating on. The shares that I picked up at 4$ and 7$ are looking pretty fucking good to me now.
Heh, Dell does whatever their customers want, peroid. If enough of Dell's customers want Opteron, Dell will provide. Some comments from AMD's CEO lead me to believe that a LOT of Dell's customers are wanting Opteron. In fact AMD's CEO said that he knew of 2 very large Dell customers were refusing further purchases until Dell could provide Opteron products.
This in my estimation, as an American, is not nessasarily a bad thing. That entire region has, due to American dependace on the natural resources, and a relative isolation from American military and political pressure been able to act in a rather bad manner towards their own people and the world in general. Bringing American influence to the barganing table in the region, strikes me as a good thing.
Tell me more. I have a secret clearance, what is it worth?
"I'm still wondering what "fair" means as applied to Microsoft, as in "Microsoft is not playing fair". How are they not playing fair? Is bundling a media play with windows somehow unfair to the consumer?"
Anti-trust laws are not about consumers or customers. Anti-trust laws primarily focus on competition. The consumer benifts like, lower prices and better products, are a happy side effect of a Free Market.
Ask yourself this: How does bundling a media player into the monopoly produdt affet your ablity to start your own business creating and selling your own media player? That is how you are hurt by bundling. Consumers are hurt because you are unable to create and sell a competing product. In fact, I would argue that a large part of the "bubble" bursting, is the stigma that as soon as any person or company deveops a software product that becomes nominally successfull or profifitable Microsoft eventually comes along and destorys you.
"Do you know what the point of copyright is? It's to encourage people to create. It's not to enforce some pre-existing control over ideas and creations - in nature, once these are disseminated, they're part of the world and the creator loses control. Copyright gives creators exclusive right to copy/distribute their works for a certain term. A certain term! The idea is that after a reasonable period of profit (HA! Reasonable 200 years ago maybe...) the creator loses control over the work so that the world can further benefit from it and build on it. When we look at ancient shows or games which the owning corporation doesn't see fit to release in any legal form (and in particular, a form which allows legal preservation), morally there is no reason to restrict what the public does with that game."
History supports this as well. Think how much of out past media is lost forever because the crators did not take care of it once that media's primary earning peroid was past. Most of radio and TV's early years are only rememberd because some individual ILLEGALY kept some kinnescopes that some early TV exec thought were worthless.
With copyrights extending to infinity now, who is going to look after what will be our future treasures, if not us? The social contract that is copyright is becoming a failure in that classic media is percived as a threat to new releases. A twisted example is that based on sales and install data the greatest competitor to Windows XP Professional is not Linux or Apple but Windows 2000.
Think how if the source code for some of the best classic games had been opened up after a reasonable time what the MOD community could have done with them. In fact most new releases of games are just an old concept with the latest graphics added on (usually destroying the gameplay that made it a classic in the process). I mean, just look at MOO III!
I'd like a wake up call too, when a G5 can run my legacy windows apps as fast as an Opteron.
So, true. The last of the Apha's benchmarks was truely amazing. One of our directors where I work was ex-Alpha and hammered home how superior technology can be beat by superior marketing aided by some bad business decisions.
Too bad the guy learned, what I consider to be the wrong lesson, and turned into a complete Microsoft toady.
But how long can Microsoft delay? If we get to the point where both AMD and Intel are shipping 64 bit enabled processors on all new computers what happens when some jackass at Id releases a 64 bit optimized version of Doom III. I certianly would be temped to finally kick the Windows habit and go cold turkey with a 64 bit Linux distro. Perhaps one of those AMAZING Knoppix distros would help me in a Patch like transition...
Ah, but is it even copyrighted? I thought propriatary source was more of a trade secret? Was the source officially published? I think that is what you do to get the defacto copyright. Is not that the tradeoff? Publish publicly the IP and you get copyright protection? Is this not more like CSS which is not more or less public domain now?
Well, be fair. The Sims has been out, what FOUR years now? So it was probably written to run primarily on Win 9x where all users run as root. So to complain that it requires an XP user to run as Admin instead of limited user is a bit disingenous as it would have been difficult to deveop it for and OS that was not due for two more OS generations.
"Until a 64-bit version of Windows comes out, I don't see this mattering all that much. 64-bit doesn't mean anything to the masses of end users, just the developers. I don't care if my computer is 2-bit or 1000-bit as long as it works well." But memory is cheap and you can run 32 bit windows on an Opteron/Athalon 64. However you can not run greater than 4 gig of ram on a 32 bit processor. To some end users going from 4 gig to 8 or more is going to matter and in the future it is going to matter more even if your primary funcion is running 32 bit apps on a 32 bit OS.
The author of the virus would also have to hope that the payment is not $125K in SCO stock, as by the time he got out, they would be worthless.
Sory was 299 w/o a mail in rebate. My guess would be that a loss leader became just a loss. Just wait 3 days and it will change again. Prolly a 50$ instant rebate. They switch that stuff around all the time. Marketing I guess they call it. I share your sentiment in that I will not buy anyting that has a mail in rebate.
Frodo did not destroy the ring. At the peripice, he claims the ring as his own and choosed to NOT destroy the ring. Golum destroys it. So you thought wrong.
Here's a trick. Go to www.dell.com, select small business, and select servers and then poweredge (I think). There you will see a system for 300 bucks, or less. The site is a little vague on the system details but I have it on good authority that it ships with a pci video card but has an AGP port to put your latest and greatest video card in. You can get it with windows (server), linux, free dos. or, get this, NO OS. This may be a loss leader to get there server sales numbers up, so I don't know how long it will last if too may people start ordering them.
My uncle X-ferred all of my grandparents Super-8 to video a few years back. He just set up the projector and screen in his basement and let his video camera output to the VCR. The reslut was perfect video. However I think the super 8 is higher res than video, so while the video looked like it was shot for a TV show, I don't think the quality was as good as the 50 year old film it was presenting.
Well, with SCOX having 13.8 shares outstanding, a stock price of ~$16, sueing for 30 Billion, some one buying the stock would have to believe their chances of winning are better than 136 to 1 or that someone even duber than them would buy the stock later at an even higer price. Of course with the funny legal payment the effective odds get much worse.
Of course some us Slashdotters would feel that over the long term, one's money would be better spent at the roulette wheel. At least there, you get free drinks while the house takes your money.
I disagree. If Microsoft disappeard tomorrow, who besides the investors would care? My copy of windows or Office would not cease to funcion. I would no longer have to pay a licence fee for the OS on a new computer that I buy. Those poor souls who signed up for Licencing 6.0 could stop sending thier monthly check. The only people who would be without jobs would be MS sales and MS developers. Even MCSE's would still have work. The only threat I can imagine is that some critical exploit or bug is could be found and without the source, no one could fix it. So I guess the buggieness MS code is the only saving grace I can think of to justify thier existance.
I was inclined to call bullshit, but Google proved me wrong. I still find it hard to belive that some similar form of adhesive tape was not used before the military application and naming.
Corporations protect shareholders from corporate missdeeds, not the officers of the company. If McBride and the rest of the clown car occupants conduct illegal activity they are not protected by the Limited Liabilty.
"M$ will lose a lot more ground to us if they do that". I think you understate the situation. If an open source OS existed that would run all Windows compatible applications natively, MS would lose half of their revenue overnight. Why would any person or business pay 400$ per seat to run their Windows based applications, if a free (in both beer and speach) solution existed. Not to mention that all of the super secret API's that have been ported to XP would be exposed and no one would develop to MS OSs but to the exixting 98 standards. This option would be game over, goodbye monopoly hello real competition.
Moderating at 0 or lower is hard. It takes me all evening to read through a given thread at 2 much less 0. I tried modding at -1 once and could not get halfway through a thread. I guess I should not be modding since I don't have the time to do it properly. Usually I cheat and just set my "friends" to +2 and mod that way. I guess that is more than a little hipocritacal as some kind souls move a post of mine from -1 to +5 once. I will try to be more egalitaran when modding in the future.
I see a kernel of relevace in what you say. Americans of any national decent have a radically different culture than that of their cultural heratage. Americans, of all nationalities, as a rule are highly competitive, confrontational and indiviualistic.
Working for a company that is in the middle of conducting and outsourcing project, both to test the viability of such a venture and to keep pace from the threat of our competitors moving in the same direction, we have noticed the weird cultural differeces come into play.
Where an USAian is able to operate on little direction and come to a solution for a given project, the offshore workers require and inordinate amount of supervion and direction for what an in house worker would consider even the simplest task. This results in a lager demand on the more skilled and expensive workers and a net loss over all.
In fact, (in my limited experience) non-native nationals, even if more highly trained, also seem to lack this innovative spirit for independant operation common to native born Americans.
I do not mean to appeat bigoted against forign labor, as I am sure that tallented and competant pepole are there in equal numbers to here in the States. Also, I'm sure that if the roles were reversed the cultural differences would be just as detrimental to good communication on a project.
However the cultural differences are a MAJOR impediment to the efficient operaion of a project and add unplanned for costs to the local vs. oursource equation.
Of course, the falling dollar is a big help too in changing that equation as well.
I would agrue that the majority of all inovation comes from the trenches and that good ideas largely are adopted, coopted, or outright stolen by management and engineering. Of course management and engineering are good at implementing new good ideas, but when it comes around for recognition, the guy who proposed the new idea is rarly remembered.
Now, I have seen exceptions to this where the innovator had already implemented the good idea and the management had just put their seal of approval on the idea and started to take credit but it took the original innovator screaming bloody murder to get a fair share of the credit.