Nnnh. I can't stand iChat, myself. Those little talky bubbles just don't do it for me. I just use Adium. It does everything I need.
And if I want to show friends some pictures, I just drag 'em to ~/Sites/ and give out the domain name pointing at my IP. Gotta love OS X. =)
Hey, if a "STUPID FREAKING RETARD" can use it, it must be a pretty damned good job on Apple's part. Hell, if Jordan Hubbard likes it enough to work on the underlying UNIX OS, and quite a number of Linux users have admitted to (nay, rejoiced in) switching to OS X, what kind of asshole must you look like for assuming only idiots use it, eh?
People like you are one of the prime reasons Linux hasn't taken off on the desktop. "You're too stupid to use it" is not an attitude _anyone_ should take with _any_ product they wish to see gain wide-spread acceptance.
If software and hardware were supposed to be hard to use, we'd all still be using punch-cards.
dalamcd
(I have the distinct feeling I might just have been trolled.)
Having never touched any kind of *nix before (closest I ever came was DOS something like 7 years ago at my friend's house--MacOS since then), I had Gimp running about 3 weeks after getting a computer with OS X.
Completely new users to computers are less confused by one button mice than by two button mice, for one.
I also read somewhere (sorry, don't recall where) that two button mice are subjectively faster, but objectively slower.
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As an interesting aside, I'm a drummer and, apparently, play much better while drunk.
Obviously I sound better to _myself_, but I've been told I played really well afterwards. I'm not comparing it to 'the zone,' (which I've achieved in some marathon Warcraft II sessions [my best ever game was when I was human and my opponent was orc {orcs were pretty unbalanced in WCII, so everyone played them}, and I won hard--there is _nothing_ comparable to 36 paladins in 4 groups attacking a base from 4 sides]) but if I'm sort of drunk--like, not falling-on-my-face drunk, but fairly heavily buzzed--I feel much more confident and less likely to fuck up, and just play better all around.
My most memorable moment was 11 frogs in seb chef at 57, started at 80m and not one touched anyone but the MT
Dude. I know, having played my fair share of MUDs, that they all develop their own language. It's considered polite to speak in English (or other common language) when there are those in the audience who are not players.
"*See individual offers for terms and conditions."
They mention nothing about the upgrade being a free one. At least, mine don't.
As far as I can figure, these coupons are only good for something when Apple specifically states that they're good for something. *shrug* Dunno, though. IANAL and all that. IANETS (I Am Not Even That Smart).
Mmm. Apple was supporting 2.2 million users (this was the number mentioned in the keynote today) each with 25 megs of space. 5 for the email, 20 for the iDisk. That's 55,000 gigabytes, or 55 terabytes worth of space they weren't charging for. (I just woke up and I've never been good at math, so if my numbers are way off, I apologise. Any way you slice it, though, it's a ton of space.) I'm not at all surprised it's no longer free.
As for the price of 10.2, just wait. I'm quite sure there'll be some sort of upgrade price.
Pocket-digging my pasty white ass. They're charging for stuff they've worked hard on, and furthermore are releasing half of it for free if you don't want a GUI (and those apps that depend on one). Christ on TOAST, man. They provide, for free, great apps that a lot of people use. They make great hardware and, yeah, charge a bit more for it, just like any other business.
Bah. They're not Microsoft, they operate differently. Some things will be cheaper on the Mac (Project Builder vs. whatever Visual Studio.NET.asp), some things will be more expensive (like the hardware), and some things will be the same (Quicktime vs. WMV), but it'll never be the same across the boards and you can bet your house that if it were, people would complain one of them not being a trendsetter, or God knows what.
I think these attempts to pigeonhole Mac users (or any users of any OS) is stupid. Everyone's got their own reason. Aside from at work, I would never use an OS I didn't like, and I think that's where the majority of people fall. And remember, if you've no basis for compairison you'll like the first thing that you use. (No, no, this doesn't hold true for _everything_. But it's hard to sit down and really use a variety of computers without actually going out and buying them. You talk to your friends for advice, then take the plunge and are stuck with whatever you get unless you're able to buy a new computer every 3 months.)
You won't switch because there's not enough hard/software support because there aren't enough people switching because there's not enough hard/software support.
They (the bands) have to sign contracts.
I'm sure, after all the years the music industry has had to work on them, that those contracts are pretty fucking scary.
Plus I imagine there are some threats ("you'll never work in this town again!", etc.) going on.
Granted, it's a sad state of affairs, but more or less unavoidable given the fact that absolutely computer-illiterate people drive the strong majority of the technology market. For every avid/. reader, there are 500 people who just want the box to run their web browser, email software, and games, and don't care how cool the underlying tech is.
Wait, wait. How do you define "computer-illiterate?" I am a diehard home Mac user, and I use it to... run my web browser, email software, and games, and also a couple other things (AIM, IRC, iTunes).
I'm very computer literate: I can go on and on to you about the guts of this li'l G3 iMac I own, lamenting about its cons and praising its pros; I'm getting fairly good at the UNIX stuff because, damnit, I want to know all my computer can do (go OS X); I'm an avid reader of/.; I know PHP and Perl; I co-run a fucking comic based on Angband, of all things.
Now. While I said I could go on and on about the guts of my iMac, I don't really _care_ beyond wanting it to run this game, or this application faster. I picked up most of my hardware knowledge from reading/. comments at -1, nested.
Does this make me one of the clueless herd?
I'd use any innovation that made my computer more of a joy to use, be it hardware or software.
I've used both voice recognition and a 3D UI (I'm discounting the gesture recognition in Black and White), and, well, they sucked.
I'm sort of rambling here because, well, I'm fairly unable to find your point. =) You seem to be saying that because most Mac users (and don't forget PC users) don't want to technology that--at a consumer level, anyway--is nowhere near helpful when bought at a consumer-level price, they are "computer-illiterate." _I_ think that most of 'em are like me: They'll try just about anything, but if it doesn't make the experience better--either through bad design or because it's not sufficiently advanced--they won't use it.
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dalamcd
Silly me for looking in the preferences. =P
Still, I'd rather use Adium. The bubbles were just one example. (The window modes of Adium are another, if someone actually cares.)
dalamcd
And if I want to show friends some pictures, I just drag 'em to ~/Sites/ and give out the domain name pointing at my IP. Gotta love OS X. =)
dalamcd
You did, not the original poster(s).
"severe scalding" is the phrase of import.
OMG LOL PWNED SO HARD n00b
dalamcd
People like you are one of the prime reasons Linux hasn't taken off on the desktop. "You're too stupid to use it" is not an attitude _anyone_ should take with _any_ product they wish to see gain wide-spread acceptance.
If software and hardware were supposed to be hard to use, we'd all still be using punch-cards.
dalamcd
(I have the distinct feeling I might just have been trolled.)
dalamcd
Have you checked out Fink?
dalamcd
A non-server computer a human could actually use?
Or... this! Starting at $799.
dalamcd
I also read somewhere (sorry, don't recall where) that two button mice are subjectively faster, but objectively slower.
dalamcd
Obviously I sound better to _myself_, but I've been told I played really well afterwards.
I'm not comparing it to 'the zone,'
(which I've achieved in some marathon Warcraft II sessions [my best ever game was when I was human and my opponent was orc {orcs were pretty unbalanced in WCII, so everyone played them}, and I won hard--there is _nothing_ comparable to 36 paladins in 4 groups attacking a base from 4 sides])
but if I'm sort of drunk--like, not falling-on-my-face drunk, but fairly heavily buzzed--I feel much more confident and less likely to fuck up, and just play better all around.
dalamcd
Dude. I know, having played my fair share of MUDs, that they all develop their own language.
It's considered polite to speak in English (or other common language) when there are those in the audience who are not players.
dalamcd
dalamcd
And, I might add, just because it's unused doesn't mean they don't have to make the space (or a decently sized part of it) available.
dalamcd
"*See individual offers for terms and conditions."
They mention nothing about the upgrade being a free one. At least, mine don't.
As far as I can figure, these coupons are only good for something when Apple specifically states that they're good for something.
*shrug* Dunno, though. IANAL and all that. IANETS (I Am Not Even That Smart).
dalamcd
I'm not at all surprised it's no longer free.
As for the price of 10.2, just wait. I'm quite sure there'll be some sort of upgrade price.
Pocket-digging my pasty white ass. They're charging for stuff they've worked hard on, and furthermore are releasing half of it for free if you don't want a GUI (and those apps that depend on one). Christ on TOAST, man. They provide, for free, great apps that a lot of people use. They make great hardware and, yeah, charge a bit more for it, just like any other business.
Bah. They're not Microsoft, they operate differently. Some things will be cheaper on the Mac (Project Builder vs. whatever Visual Studio .NET.asp), some things will be more expensive (like the hardware), and some things will be the same (Quicktime vs. WMV), but it'll never be the same across the boards and you can bet your house that if it were, people would complain one of them not being a trendsetter, or God knows what.
dalamcd
I did say I just got up, right?
Have you checked the numbers of users who've upgraded to Windows XP?
dalamcd
dalamcd
I think these attempts to pigeonhole Mac users (or any users of any OS) is stupid. Everyone's got their own reason. Aside from at work, I would never use an OS I didn't like, and I think that's where the majority of people fall.
And remember, if you've no basis for compairison you'll like the first thing that you use. (No, no, this doesn't hold true for _everything_. But it's hard to sit down and really use a variety of computers without actually going out and buying them. You talk to your friends for advice, then take the plunge and are stuck with whatever you get unless you're able to buy a new computer every 3 months.)
dalamcd
Switch, and tell your friends to switch.
dalamcd
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dalamcd
I'm sure, after all the years the music industry has had to work on them, that those contracts are pretty fucking scary.
Plus I imagine there are some threats ("you'll never work in this town again!", etc.) going on.
dalamcd
Er, excuse me, but Stuffit Expander is available for Mac, PC and Linux for free, and it's all you need to unstuff _any_ .sit file.
dalamcd
P.S. No, stuffit.com is not a porn site...
Wait, wait. How do you define "computer-illiterate?" I am a diehard home Mac user, and I use it to... run my web browser, email software, and games, and also a couple other things (AIM, IRC, iTunes). /.; I know PHP and Perl; I co-run a fucking comic based on Angband, of all things.
I'm very computer literate: I can go on and on to you about the guts of this li'l G3 iMac I own, lamenting about its cons and praising its pros; I'm getting fairly good at the UNIX stuff because, damnit, I want to know all my computer can do (go OS X); I'm an avid reader of
Now. While I said I could go on and on about the guts of my iMac, I don't really _care_ beyond wanting it to run this game, or this application faster. I picked up most of my hardware knowledge from reading /. comments at -1, nested.
Does this make me one of the clueless herd?
I'd use any innovation that made my computer more of a joy to use, be it hardware or software.
I've used both voice recognition and a 3D UI (I'm discounting the gesture recognition in Black and White), and, well, they sucked.
I'm sort of rambling here because, well, I'm fairly unable to find your point. =) You seem to be saying that because most Mac users (and don't forget PC users) don't want to technology that--at a consumer level, anyway--is nowhere near helpful when bought at a consumer-level price, they are "computer-illiterate." _I_ think that most of 'em are like me: They'll try just about anything, but if it doesn't make the experience better--either through bad design or because it's not sufficiently advanced--they won't use it.
dalamcd
Not really the first thing I want to see in the morning, either.
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