You'd have to look at computing power per watt to run, per dollar to buy and per watt of cooling, as watts are directly correlated to $$. The atoms are slow, but 21 of them at under 100W is def interesting and undoubtedly useful.
I've been waiting for something like this, I don't think it's coincidence that Intel named this chip the atom. It's small and insignificant by itself, but add enough together and you get some interesting things....
At what point does it become smarter to have a whole slew of the atom chips vs relatively few of a traditional clustered processor?
Their problem is that they are undoubtedly testing on a freshly installed sixteen core 20 GB ram 73.216 GHz machine running with liquid nitrogen. So, the differences in performance will be so hard to discern by human means there will be no conclusion.
They as much said so - "just not as pronounced as the benchmarks indicate"
Put them on a real world system, like those I run into daily - a sempron 3100 with 512 megs of ram, no patches, a healthy dose of spyware, a few corrupted windows files, and 28% fragmentation. And Vista. THEN, see which one is faster!
I was repairing a customers computer that was infested with spyware and viruses (virii). I took off all the crap that was installed and cleaned it up. Obviously, it wasn't working. They had Kaspersky installed. Not any more.
I thought twice before I removed it, Kaspersky I've heard of. But, it wasn't complaining at all about the infestation. Sorry, guys!
What fraction of the remaining 22% can we expect to be false positives?
Those can be justified away. It's the false negatives that folks will (ahem) have a hard time living with.
Seriously now, isn't todays smart terrorist working on "projects" that don't involve airports, airlines, airplanes, and going through an airport security checkpoint?
You go to a store, put it in the cart, go get some eggs, cheese, chips and milk, and check out. You go home and plug it in and make interwebs (if it's a computer) or toasts (if it's a toaster).
The only time it gets interesting is if you're REALLY INTO TOAST, then the above scenario isn't for you.
Ideally wouldn't it be possible that someone would be open minded enough to consider the evidence for all sides?
There's people that say there is climate change and it's human caused, people that say there is and it's caused by natural things like the sun, and people that say it isn't happening at all.
What is his stance on global warming? I think that is the "litmus test."
Personally I don't think global warming is caused by humans, and there are many scientists who have that stance and have very clear evidence to point to other causes (I'm not a scientist).
If he blindly thinks global warming is caused by humans without admitting that there is still much discussion and contrary evidence to be addressed, then he has already proven himself to have good politician qualities.
I tried chrome along with everyone else when it came out and I thought it was "good" but missed one critical thing- plugins. Specifically, I don't want to run a new browser without foxmarks. I have the same set of bookmarks whichever computer I'm on. No going back now.
Foxmarks and ABP are two critical plugins that chrome needs to either duplicate or be compatible with. I imagine google would allow something like ABP since their ads are text based.... hmmmm....
Also to put 1 watt of sound energy at one particular frequency will make a lot louder noise than 1 watt of white noise, since the white noise energy would be spread out over many frequencies. (The LASER concept) So, if there is a "sound energy absorber" that only responds at one tight frequency, it may not get much of energy as the 1000 screaming people are producing. Follow? Perhaps this fancy energy absorber from the TFA can gather energy from the whole voice spectrum...
I would say... Not Dell or HP, and not a large Asian firm like Toshiba or Sony who have lots of other product types.
I'm thinking a relatively "upstart" Asian firm that makes computer parts and computers, gained a lot of publicity lately from a revolutionary product (in the past 1-2 years) and wouldn't be afraid to do something like that.
1000 people screaming only makes one watt? I have no proof of my own, but I'm not so sure on that one. Take two different auditoriums, one with 1000 screaming people in it, and one with a sound system in it.
You're telling me that I could power the sound system with ONE WATT, and duplicate the sound energy of the auditorium that has 1000 people in it?
I need a little more info to see how that would be possible...
Granted, I'm betting that there is something interesting that happens to the piezoelectric material in TFA which makes the energy absorption and transmission much more than typical, but obviously whatever cell phone would be powered by voice alone is probably going to need to be quite efficient!
So, everyone on here always says format shifting is fine, whether it's DL'd or home brew.
Say someone buys a dead tree version of a book and DL's same ebook from piratebay, or someone has a vinyl album of rolling stones and DL's a mp3 copy of said album, and both are DL'd by bit-torrent. Is that still kosher? BT involves uploading.
I'm not saying one way or another by asking, this is a discussion. If I did such a thing, I wasn't intending to distribute, but it's the nature of the protocol.
(And don't say my hypothetical is flawed because someone who owns vinyl wouldn't be caught dead with an mp3, LOL, I can see it now)
It's possible that this "ask slashdot" is clever marketing research for someone who wants to know which UMPC is the geek crowd's choice for a kiddy computer.
Oh, look, honey! Junior is really interested in this liquid cooled gaming pc with quad SLI and 8 cores! Slashdot said it will DEFINITELY help with his spelling skills!
Fisher Price makes things that are much too limited for a 20 month old...
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You'd have to look at computing power per watt to run, per dollar to buy and per watt of cooling, as watts are directly correlated to $$. The atoms are slow, but 21 of them at under 100W is def interesting and undoubtedly useful.
I've been waiting for something like this, I don't think it's coincidence that Intel named this chip the atom. It's small and insignificant by itself, but add enough together and you get some interesting things....
At what point does it become smarter to have a whole slew of the atom chips vs relatively few of a traditional clustered processor?
I think you might be on to something...
Their problem is that they are undoubtedly testing on a freshly installed sixteen core 20 GB ram 73.216 GHz machine running with liquid nitrogen. So, the differences in performance will be so hard to discern by human means there will be no conclusion.
They as much said so - "just not as pronounced as the benchmarks indicate"
Put them on a real world system, like those I run into daily - a sempron 3100 with 512 megs of ram, no patches, a healthy dose of spyware, a few corrupted windows files, and 28% fragmentation. And Vista. THEN, see which one is faster!
bravo
If it's a hardware fault software management won't help.
A bad NIC brought down a whole airport a while back, read it on here, IIRC.
That might have been bad design, but who woulda thought that a NIC card can hose a network? A bad switch.... even worse.
I bet you splurged for 12 or 16 megs of ram, and ran something like qemm, didn't you?
I remember wfw all too well..... And win95 from floppies. [sigh]
I was repairing a customers computer that was infested with spyware and viruses (virii). I took off all the crap that was installed and cleaned it up. Obviously, it wasn't working. They had Kaspersky installed. Not any more.
I thought twice before I removed it, Kaspersky I've heard of. But, it wasn't complaining at all about the infestation. Sorry, guys!
What fraction of the remaining 22% can we expect to be false positives?
Those can be justified away. It's the false negatives that folks will (ahem) have a hard time living with.
Seriously now, isn't todays smart terrorist working on "projects" that don't involve airports, airlines, airplanes, and going through an airport security checkpoint?
Computers have been like toasters since 2003.
You go to a store, put it in the cart, go get some eggs, cheese, chips and milk, and check out. You go home and plug it in and make interwebs (if it's a computer) or toasts (if it's a toaster).
The only time it gets interesting is if you're REALLY INTO TOAST, then the above scenario isn't for you.
Thanks for the comment, Bill. That helps clear things up.
Say hi to Jerry for me, will ya?
Later,
I think it's because they are in the "death zone".
If that were to be avoided.... Hmmmmm....
Yep, that's my recommendation. Avoid the "death zone".
That's pretty inspiring. I hope he's rich from this, and it didn't get snatched away. Is he?
Ideally wouldn't it be possible that someone would be open minded enough to consider the evidence for all sides?
There's people that say there is climate change and it's human caused, people that say there is and it's caused by natural things like the sun, and people that say it isn't happening at all.
That kind of objective.
Sure, but isn't someone in a very high position like that required to be more objective than you or me?
What is his stance on global warming? I think that is the "litmus test."
Personally I don't think global warming is caused by humans, and there are many scientists who have that stance and have very clear evidence to point to other causes (I'm not a scientist).
If he blindly thinks global warming is caused by humans without admitting that there is still much discussion and contrary evidence to be addressed, then he has already proven himself to have good politician qualities.
I tried chrome along with everyone else when it came out and I thought it was "good" but missed one critical thing- plugins. Specifically, I don't want to run a new browser without foxmarks. I have the same set of bookmarks whichever computer I'm on. No going back now.
Foxmarks and ABP are two critical plugins that chrome needs to either duplicate or be compatible with. I imagine google would allow something like ABP since their ads are text based.... hmmmm....
Also to put 1 watt of sound energy at one particular frequency will make a lot louder noise than 1 watt of white noise, since the white noise energy would be spread out over many frequencies. (The LASER concept) So, if there is a "sound energy absorber" that only responds at one tight frequency, it may not get much of energy as the 1000 screaming people are producing. Follow? Perhaps this fancy energy absorber from the TFA can gather energy from the whole voice spectrum...
I would say... Not Dell or HP, and not a large Asian firm like Toshiba or Sony who have lots of other product types.
I'm thinking a relatively "upstart" Asian firm that makes computer parts and computers, gained a lot of publicity lately from a revolutionary product (in the past 1-2 years) and wouldn't be afraid to do something like that.
Who would fit that bill? Hmmmm....
1000 people screaming only makes one watt? I have no proof of my own, but I'm not so sure on that one. Take two different auditoriums, one with 1000 screaming people in it, and one with a sound system in it.
You're telling me that I could power the sound system with ONE WATT, and duplicate the sound energy of the auditorium that has 1000 people in it?
I need a little more info to see how that would be possible...
Granted, I'm betting that there is something interesting that happens to the piezoelectric material in TFA which makes the energy absorption and transmission much more than typical, but obviously whatever cell phone would be powered by voice alone is probably going to need to be quite efficient!
you can read slashdot, but not a blog?
Isn't slashdot basically a big overgrown blog?
So, everyone on here always says format shifting is fine, whether it's DL'd or home brew.
Say someone buys a dead tree version of a book and DL's same ebook from piratebay, or someone has a vinyl album of rolling stones and DL's a mp3 copy of said album, and both are DL'd by bit-torrent. Is that still kosher? BT involves uploading.
I'm not saying one way or another by asking, this is a discussion. If I did such a thing, I wasn't intending to distribute, but it's the nature of the protocol.
(And don't say my hypothetical is flawed because someone who owns vinyl wouldn't be caught dead with an mp3, LOL, I can see it now)
Check Google chat, I think it recently added video.
It's possible that this "ask slashdot" is clever marketing research for someone who wants to know which UMPC is the geek crowd's choice for a kiddy computer.
My oldest loved airliners.net, the shiny pics of airplanes, for her, were mesmerizing. She was 2-3 at the time.
Perhaps the UMPC is REALLY for daddy.
Oh, look, honey! Junior is really interested in this liquid cooled gaming pc with quad SLI and 8 cores! Slashdot said it will DEFINITELY help with his spelling skills!
Fisher Price makes things that are much too limited for a 20 month old...