Not that we should be arguing with an AC, but I've found a good PM or BA to be essential in productive dev teams, noticeably absent in bad dev environments, and it's hard to replace a good one.
I can't believe they're suggesting that a Mini is a replacement for a server. They'd be better off suggesting a MBP as a replacement. Is their ad campaign going to be "One tenth the performance at one third the price"?
At least the Mac Pro offers the same performance level as the Xserver.
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So you'd prefer that hobbyists buy a $3000 Mac Pro instead, and then you'd come to Apple's defense when people complained about the price of their servers saying "yea but think how ridiculous it would be to sell a low-end server", right?
You're saying that it's better to disable the entire device instead of remove the one offending application?
It can actually be less intrusive. I have no 'right' to use a network, so if I am screwing up the network because of an app I have, kicking me off the network doesn't do anything to MY equipment.
It means I can install whatever I want on my phone and no backdoors are needed.
Think of it like renting a car to someone. You can do whatever the hell you like to your body, but I don't want you smoking in my car. I refuse you the car, but I don't confiscate your cigarettes.
So if grandma unwittingly downloads some botnet-style application, and you'd prefer the carrier to kill her phone rather than nuke the offending application? That's... erm, bold.:)
Yea it was absolutely terrible getting +1 gold per turn for every city in the world with the same religion as the holy building I just built that spreads automatically and I can spread myself for free.
I do not think he was playing the same game. As I started playing the harder difficulties I pretty much optimized my early build to make sure I got at least two of the first three early religions and at least one of the later ones.
...why exactly? How is ST any different from any other sci-fi series like BSG or Firefly? It's not as if those show have any less technobabble or are any less characters-first-technology-second.
You've misunderstood the complaint, I think. The concern isn't that the show isn't all about fictional science and instead about characters. The whole point is that science fiction exposes new ways of looking at the human condition, so that would be a self-defeating stance to take.
The problem is one of these uses science fiction to make a point, the other uses science fiction to weasel out of one.
[Some series of] Star Trek will start with a story that could have happened in any setting, and in order to ensure it has a happy ending, will lean on some techno-babble to resolve a mundane conflict. Not only does it not provide new insights because it wasn't creative or innovative, it was lazy because conventional fiction would have needed to weave the resolution into the characters, whereas lazy science fiction can wave it away with 5 minutes of nonsense. That's not making it about characters at all.
Other science fiction starts with a situation that only could have happened in a fictional world (e.g. a seemingly normal human is actually a machine manufactured sleeper agent). They apply this situation to humans as we understand them to create dramatic tension (the sleeper agent is still functionally human, but has all the evidence she needs to realize she's something else). The resolution then spans the entire length of an episode, season, or even the show, watching how the writer feels a human we know and understand would react to this impossible scenario (lies to herself, lies to others, gets depressed/suicidal, etc).
And, hopefully, if the writer has treated the characters seriously and with humanity, you'll gain some new insight into the every day world. For example, the difficult transition of a homosexual from living most of their lives "knowing" and assuming they are straight, denying all the urges and feelings of being gay, lying to themselves and others, and eventually having to reveal to your family and friends you've been betraying them with secrets because you were afraid of what you are.
Yes, of course, BSG and Firefly had their lazy moments (lol, software firewalls and cylon viruses) but they're very rare, compared to newer Star Trek series and SG-1, which are structured around it entirely.
Sigh. However every single game console generation Nintendo is the last horse out of the box, and they have been doing just fine.
Sega shot themselves in the foot twice by releasing early consoles. Nintendo is fully aware of the costs involved in missing the season, and they also know the benefit of waiting. They know what they are doing.
I sat in on a rather long argument between a Catholic and a protestant (Lutheran? Presbyterian? I don't remember) about this.
As it turns out, the meaning of "Immaculate conception" is very dependent on which Christian sect you are in. The definition you gave is the Catholic one (and presumably Episcopalians and a few others share it).
(this is aimed at the general forum, not the parent poster)
Ok, time to step back for a moment and pinpoint points of contention. "Apples are red" "No, bananas are yellow!" arguments are entertaining but useless.
First of all, as it pertains to what the colleges decide, the legality of what was done is irrelevant. Submitting my application late is not a crime but will still get me rejected.
Secondly, I agree that the term "hack" is being thrown around too liberally on this issue, but I also think whether it meets that definition is irrelevant. I wouldn't "hack" my bosses information by looking at my review for next month on his desk, but that doesn't answer whether or not I could get in trouble for doing so.
Next, as any comedian will tell you "timing is everything". There seems to be an unspoken assumption that seeing information earlier intended has no consequences. I don't know if that is true, but I certainly wouldn't assume it... grad school admissions is a complicated process and many schools share admission information for match making purposes. I would need to see an explicit argument as to how being able to accept/reject schools earlier than intended has no effect.
Related to the previous point, let's talk about timing of ownership. Just because the information would have been theirs eventually doesn't mean that it is theirs now. If I owe my housemate $10, and I tell him I will pay him the $10 tomorrow, and he takes it out of my wallet today, that's stealing!
Continuing the previous analogy, that I left my wallet in our shared kitchen is irrelevant to whether or not he was allowed to take it. Peeping toms can't argue that they were allowed to look at their naked neighbor because s/he didn't close their blinds. Similarly, I argue that someone reading my personal email over my shoulder is unethical... that I don't have a monitor that can transmit data directly to my brain is not relevant to whether or not it is allowed. (to those jumping up and down saying "but it was their own information they were looking at", like I said earlier, it wasn't theirs, it was the schools')
I'm curious that I haven't seen any terms of use violations. Was there an agreement? That alone might well be sufficient for punishment if it says the right thing.
Furthermore, since legality is not an issue, we need to be aware that this is not a criminal proceeding. They claim that an individual could only access their own account, and others have confirmed you needed personal information to do it. -Clearly- this information could be possessed by someone else, but the colleges don't need to be beyond reasonable doubt. Civil courts go by preponderance of evidence, aka "Is it more likely than not." That seems to be the case here.
While we're on civil proceedings, suing the colleges for denying admission is a joke. There are no anti-discrimination laws or agreements being broken here, they can reject your application for having a grease stain on it if they want to. Even if they weren't allowed to be that arbitrary (and they are), all they would have to say is that they were reasonable in believing that their privacy was violated. Even if you could argue that it was not the case, that's all they need to avoid a liability suit. (they would need to prove more to avoid a suit requiring admissions to be granted, but that would be easy too).
Whether or not the level of the punishment was fair, independent of the issues of proof or whether or not is was ethical, is a whole different matter, so make sure you separate that from arguments about whether or not it was wrong to access the information in the first place.
My old karate sensei every now and then liked to talk about random things after class before he dismissed us. I remember in one of these moments he talked about talent and how it can be the most crippling aspect of someone's training. He claimed in all his time teaching he's noticed the same pattern: for students who stay long enough (years), the ones who were the most inept, uncomfortable, and lacking in natural talent always surpassed the students who found karate to be easy and intuitive.
I'm finding this to be true now that I'm taking art classes as well. In the basic drawing class that I'm taking, people came in with widely varying levels of prior knowledge and natural talent. But I've observed the ones who were the best artists when the class started are more likely to get stumped or confused when we switch styles or mediums. Those who had never drawn before or "just don't get it" actually end up dealing with difficult mediums or objects to be drawn... perhaps because it's all so new and difficult to them the varying level of difficulty means little.
I'm not really qualified to explain why this is the case, but it has been true in my experience. Perhaps this study is in the same vein: I'm willing to bet many (though certainly not all) smart people are unaccustomed to thinking under pressure because for them there isn't normally pressure involved in thinking... it's so easy it just happens. When my parents try to install their VCR, they tend to enter this very deliberate "Ok, I'm about to do something hard and I don't undersand" mode, where as I just sit down and do it. So I could see how having a contrived equally-applied pressure situation would be dealt with better by them...they have to deal with it all the time
Of course, one of the justifications was that open-source enthusiasts are 'libertarian freaks, nuttily suspicious of centralized power', who would 'scream to the high heavens if they found anything wrong'."
Not only have I purchased neither of them, but I haven't seen either of them since they were in the theater. (And I only saw Attack of the Clones once, because the "yoda" "fight" scene was too bloody painful to watch a second time).
This is pretty much (in a very general sense) exactly how the Xbox was hacked. I mean, it makes complete sense right? It doesn't matter how good the lock on your door is if you can just smash a window and get the key.
Anyone who lives in the NY/NJ area already knows that the buttons don't do anything. An interesting side effect is that people from other parts of the country (especially the midwest), whether through disbelief or habit, use them anyway. Needless to say it drives people like me bonkers.
Don't even get my started on "Walk/Don't Walk" signs. It took me a year to convince my Idaho friend that yes they don't work correctly and no it's never going to get fixed, so for the love of God just cross the street and stop standing on the corner like an idiot.
As someone already pointed out, these free porn sites generate hundreds of hits an hour... this can be done entirely in real time with a decent rate of success.
>>Not all students who attend MIT are Americans; many are from India.
And many are from America, and half a dozen other countries (i.e. what's your point)
>>Many Indians might think this outsourcing is a good thing, not a bad thing.
And many Americans might think this outsourcing is a bad thing, not a good thing. (i.e. what's your point)
>>Some MIT graduates return to India to work for Sapient and Microsoft.
Most graduates stay in the States and work in various corporations (i.e. what's your point)
>>Sapient and Microsoft are global organizations.
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>>MIT is an American institution which educates global students and works with global corporations.
Non-sequitur and misleading. As someone has already pointed out, the bulk of outside-MIT funding comes from government grants, military contracts, etc. There's an implication here somewhere, but it's vague and obtuse... perhaps because if you actually said it, it would be obviously dumb.
Moral of the Story:
Some posts have content, some don't.
A string of sentences doesn't make an argument
Your factless stated opinion is "people who benefit from this decision might like it."
Very deep. You didn't happen to write for Matrix: Revolutions did you?
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I find it ironic that there was an article over a week ago about Microsoft's warning customers about iTunes, yet the relevant info (that it disables other programs) only came appeared today on slashdot.
Perhaps someone should have looked into what MS was making a fuss about before mocking them for it. =P
In addition to what this article covers, in the next 3 weeks there will be massive influx of freshmen across the country, many who have new computers, never had their machine on the internet before, or were infected and never noticed.
Actually your wrong. He personally called the offices of Morgan Stanley after a screw up that was their fault. He not only demanded that the purchase/sale in question be done immediately (a reasonable request), he demanded that he also receive some trivial (hundreds, or low thousaunds) amount of interest that he lost because he would be getting the money from said transaction days later.
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Oh yea, that's what we need. Now we can get useless and uninformed while highly opinionated slashdot comments in real time. Rock on!!1111
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Not that we should be arguing with an AC, but I've found a good PM or BA to be essential in productive dev teams, noticeably absent in bad dev environments, and it's hard to replace a good one.
I can't believe they're suggesting that a Mini is a replacement for a server. They'd be better off suggesting a MBP as a replacement. Is their ad campaign going to be "One tenth the performance at one third the price"?
At least the Mac Pro offers the same performance level as the Xserver.
dom
So you'd prefer that hobbyists buy a $3000 Mac Pro instead, and then you'd come to Apple's defense when people complained about the price of their servers saying "yea but think how ridiculous it would be to sell a low-end server", right?
You're saying that it's better to disable the entire device instead of remove the one offending application?
It can actually be less intrusive. I have no 'right' to use a network, so if I am screwing up the network because of an app I have, kicking me off the network doesn't do anything to MY equipment.
It means I can install whatever I want on my phone and no backdoors are needed.
Think of it like renting a car to someone. You can do whatever the hell you like to your body, but I don't want you smoking in my car. I refuse you the car, but I don't confiscate your cigarettes.
So if grandma unwittingly downloads some botnet-style application, and you'd prefer the carrier to kill her phone rather than nuke the offending application? That's... erm, bold. :)
Yea it was absolutely terrible getting +1 gold per turn for every city in the world with the same religion as the holy building I just built that spreads automatically and I can spread myself for free. I do not think he was playing the same game. As I started playing the harder difficulties I pretty much optimized my early build to make sure I got at least two of the first three early religions and at least one of the later ones.
I'll let him call me wife if his son gets to soup my bowl at the party
I'd hope a $1600 game of scrabble would be cool.
...why exactly? How is ST any different from any other sci-fi series like BSG or Firefly? It's not as if those show have any less technobabble or are any less characters-first-technology-second.
You've misunderstood the complaint, I think. The concern isn't that the show isn't all about fictional science and instead about characters. The whole point is that science fiction exposes new ways of looking at the human condition, so that would be a self-defeating stance to take.
The problem is one of these uses science fiction to make a point, the other uses science fiction to weasel out of one.
[Some series of] Star Trek will start with a story that could have happened in any setting, and in order to ensure it has a happy ending, will lean on some techno-babble to resolve a mundane conflict. Not only does it not provide new insights because it wasn't creative or innovative, it was lazy because conventional fiction would have needed to weave the resolution into the characters, whereas lazy science fiction can wave it away with 5 minutes of nonsense. That's not making it about characters at all.
Other science fiction starts with a situation that only could have happened in a fictional world (e.g. a seemingly normal human is actually a machine manufactured sleeper agent). They apply this situation to humans as we understand them to create dramatic tension (the sleeper agent is still functionally human, but has all the evidence she needs to realize she's something else). The resolution then spans the entire length of an episode, season, or even the show, watching how the writer feels a human we know and understand would react to this impossible scenario (lies to herself, lies to others, gets depressed/suicidal, etc).
And, hopefully, if the writer has treated the characters seriously and with humanity, you'll gain some new insight into the every day world. For example, the difficult transition of a homosexual from living most of their lives "knowing" and assuming they are straight, denying all the urges and feelings of being gay, lying to themselves and others, and eventually having to reveal to your family and friends you've been betraying them with secrets because you were afraid of what you are.
Yes, of course, BSG and Firefly had their lazy moments (lol, software firewalls and cylon viruses) but they're very rare, compared to newer Star Trek series and SG-1, which are structured around it entirely.
If you don't think that actually happens, try looking into the history of a certain game aptly named "Final Fantasy"
Thank God
Sigh. However every single game console generation Nintendo is the last horse out of the box, and they have been doing just fine. Sega shot themselves in the foot twice by releasing early consoles. Nintendo is fully aware of the costs involved in missing the season, and they also know the benefit of waiting. They know what they are doing.
I sat in on a rather long argument between a Catholic and a protestant (Lutheran? Presbyterian? I don't remember) about this.
As it turns out, the meaning of "Immaculate conception" is very dependent on which Christian sect you are in. The definition you gave is the Catholic one (and presumably Episcopalians and a few others share it).
(this is aimed at the general forum, not the parent poster)
Ok, time to step back for a moment and pinpoint points of contention. "Apples are red" "No, bananas are yellow!" arguments are entertaining but useless.
First of all, as it pertains to what the colleges decide, the legality of what was done is irrelevant. Submitting my application late is not a crime but will still get me rejected.
Secondly, I agree that the term "hack" is being thrown around too liberally on this issue, but I also think whether it meets that definition is irrelevant. I wouldn't "hack" my bosses information by looking at my review for next month on his desk, but that doesn't answer whether or not I could get in trouble for doing so.
Next, as any comedian will tell you "timing is everything". There seems to be an unspoken assumption that seeing information earlier intended has no consequences. I don't know if that is true, but I certainly wouldn't assume it... grad school admissions is a complicated process and many schools share admission information for match making purposes. I would need to see an explicit argument as to how being able to accept/reject schools earlier than intended has no effect.
Related to the previous point, let's talk about timing of ownership. Just because the information would have been theirs eventually doesn't mean that it is theirs now. If I owe my housemate $10, and I tell him I will pay him the $10 tomorrow, and he takes it out of my wallet today, that's stealing!
Continuing the previous analogy, that I left my wallet in our shared kitchen is irrelevant to whether or not he was allowed to take it. Peeping toms can't argue that they were allowed to look at their naked neighbor because s/he didn't close their blinds. Similarly, I argue that someone reading my personal email over my shoulder is unethical... that I don't have a monitor that can transmit data directly to my brain is not relevant to whether or not it is allowed. (to those jumping up and down saying "but it was their own information they were looking at", like I said earlier, it wasn't theirs, it was the schools')
I'm curious that I haven't seen any terms of use violations. Was there an agreement? That alone might well be sufficient for punishment if it says the right thing.
Furthermore, since legality is not an issue, we need to be aware that this is not a criminal proceeding. They claim that an individual could only access their own account, and others have confirmed you needed personal information to do it. -Clearly- this information could be possessed by someone else, but the colleges don't need to be beyond reasonable doubt. Civil courts go by preponderance of evidence, aka "Is it more likely than not." That seems to be the case here.
While we're on civil proceedings, suing the colleges for denying admission is a joke. There are no anti-discrimination laws or agreements being broken here, they can reject your application for having a grease stain on it if they want to. Even if they weren't allowed to be that arbitrary (and they are), all they would have to say is that they were reasonable in believing that their privacy was violated. Even if you could argue that it was not the case, that's all they need to avoid a liability suit. (they would need to prove more to avoid a suit requiring admissions to be granted, but that would be easy too).
Whether or not the level of the punishment was fair, independent of the issues of proof or whether or not is was ethical, is a whole different matter, so make sure you separate that from arguments about whether or not it was wrong to access the information in the first place.
My old karate sensei every now and then liked to talk about random things after class before he dismissed us. I remember in one of these moments he talked about talent and how it can be the most crippling aspect of someone's training. He claimed in all his time teaching he's noticed the same pattern: for students who stay long enough (years), the ones who were the most inept, uncomfortable, and lacking in natural talent always surpassed the students who found karate to be easy and intuitive.
I'm finding this to be true now that I'm taking art classes as well. In the basic drawing class that I'm taking, people came in with widely varying levels of prior knowledge and natural talent. But I've observed the ones who were the best artists when the class started are more likely to get stumped or confused when we switch styles or mediums. Those who had never drawn before or "just don't get it" actually end up dealing with difficult mediums or objects to be drawn... perhaps because it's all so new and difficult to them the varying level of difficulty means little.
I'm not really qualified to explain why this is the case, but it has been true in my experience. Perhaps this study is in the same vein: I'm willing to bet many (though certainly not all) smart people are unaccustomed to thinking under pressure because for them there isn't normally pressure involved in thinking... it's so easy it just happens. When my parents try to install their VCR, they tend to enter this very deliberate "Ok, I'm about to do something hard and I don't undersand" mode, where as I just sit down and do it. So I could see how having a contrived equally-applied pressure situation would be dealt with better by them...they have to deal with it all the time
Of course, one of the justifications was that open-source enthusiasts are 'libertarian freaks, nuttily suspicious of centralized power', who would 'scream to the high heavens if they found anything wrong'."
Are you suggesting that it isn't true?
Not only have I purchased neither of them, but I haven't seen either of them since they were in the theater. (And I only saw Attack of the Clones once, because the "yoda" "fight" scene was too bloody painful to watch a second time).
This is pretty much (in a very general sense) exactly how the Xbox was hacked. I mean, it makes complete sense right? It doesn't matter how good the lock on your door is if you can just smash a window and get the key.
How is this different from the argument that "the whole world is going to force US to go metric"
Anyone who lives in the NY/NJ area already knows that the buttons don't do anything. An interesting side effect is that people from other parts of the country (especially the midwest), whether through disbelief or habit, use them anyway. Needless to say it drives people like me bonkers.
Don't even get my started on "Walk/Don't Walk" signs. It took me a year to convince my Idaho friend that yes they don't work correctly and no it's never going to get fixed, so for the love of God just cross the street and stop standing on the corner like an idiot.
As someone already pointed out, these free porn sites generate hundreds of hits an hour... this can be done entirely in real time with a decent rate of success.
"'All Your Base Jokes' are sooooo 9/10"
>>Not all students who attend MIT are Americans; many are from India.
And many are from America, and half a dozen other countries (i.e. what's your point)
>>Many Indians might think this outsourcing is a good thing, not a bad thing.
And many Americans might think this outsourcing is a bad thing, not a good thing. (i.e. what's your point)
>>Some MIT graduates return to India to work for Sapient and Microsoft.
Most graduates stay in the States and work in various corporations (i.e. what's your point)
>>Sapient and Microsoft are global organizations.
New information transmitted: 0 bits
>>MIT is an American institution which educates global students and works with global corporations.
Non-sequitur and misleading. As someone has already pointed out, the bulk of outside-MIT funding comes from government grants, military contracts, etc. There's an implication here somewhere, but it's vague and obtuse... perhaps because if you actually said it, it would be obviously dumb.
Moral of the Story:
Some posts have content, some don't.
A string of sentences doesn't make an argument
Your factless stated opinion is "people who benefit from this decision might like it."
Very deep. You didn't happen to write for Matrix: Revolutions did you?
I find it ironic that there was an article over a week ago about Microsoft's warning customers about iTunes, yet the relevant info (that it disables other programs) only came appeared today on slashdot. Perhaps someone should have looked into what MS was making a fuss about before mocking them for it. =P
In addition to what this article covers, in the next 3 weeks there will be massive influx of freshmen across the country, many who have new computers, never had their machine on the internet before, or were infected and never noticed.
Actually your wrong. He personally called the offices of Morgan Stanley after a screw up that was their fault. He not only demanded that the purchase/sale in question be done immediately (a reasonable request), he demanded that he also receive some trivial (hundreds, or low thousaunds) amount of interest that he lost because he would be getting the money from said transaction days later.
Oh yea, that's what we need. Now we can get useless and uninformed while highly opinionated slashdot comments in real time. Rock on!!1111
*mimics shooting himself with a gun*