search for "alpha" "sparc" and "SGI" and you will come up with some nice stuff.... i picked up a dual proc 533mhz alphaserver DS20 for $800. and an Octane for $285..... both of them sold in the 10k plus range a few years ago.....
It isn't the technical, geeky half that is the problem. It's the other 90% that sucks.
haven't read anything more true in a LONG LONG time. (5 minutes)
A lot of folks used to love the art of the hack, and they're railing in the dust these days. So much of what we do now has nothing to do with hacking. The creativity has escaped out into the vacuum of the business world....
see thats the problem, what got the industry to this point is not some fly by night club goer who works only 9-to-5. what got the industry this far was the hackers. it was the Tech Model Railroad club and the Home Brew Computer Club. it was not companies like Xerox or IBM who shitted away more good ideas than god knows what.....
I personally think we need to get back to that. rather than restricting and constricting we need to get back to being creative thinkers and tinkerers.
and we need to keep our jobs here so we can eat. you can't be creative when your hungry.
sad part is your right. the funny part is that this is exactly what the friggin problem with the industry is.
innovation does not work 9-to-5. PERIOD ! and all these "non-geek" tech workers ONLY want to work 9-to-5.
let american companies offshore. in 5 years when german and japanese companies are ruling our tech sector and all the fat-cat-whiteboys are out on their ass i'll be laughing at them saying i told you so.
sure. but the fan will be so loud you'll have to put the PC in the shed/garage/barn to get some sleep.
seriously some systems dont need alot of cooling power (at least not a 40CFM fan + honkin big heatsink) the problem is they are expensive as all hell.
the basic breakdown is the more power a CPU needs the hotter it will run (generally speaking). hopefully the opteron and athlon64 will help sut down on the need for Xtreme cooling.
..... there is one major flaw in your thought. that is that is is somehow helpful for women to have their own "little clique" and men must share their's.
despite what everyone seems to think BOTH sexes should be treated equally. meaning if women can have women only clubs so can men, if men have men only classes/schools etc so should women. sometimes a little separation is a good thing, i personally can't stand having my girlfriend or mother or whoever underfoot constantly, and sometimes i would much rather sit back with the boys and watch a football game (cliche' but true)
the only men who dont feel the need for "away time" from women are the ones who aren't around them alot to begin with, the same for women.
and dont quote or reference studies, papers, or ideas. because its not a fact, and i can probably dig up something that states the exact opposite within 15 minutes on google.
oh and call me a sissy or whatever, but men sometimes need a place to go where they dont feel "pressured" by women. its not just men pressuring/hitting on women. it works both ways.
yeah and ? he was convicted by a jury of people who had no goddamn idea what the trial was about. the prosecuter used scare tacticts to incite the jury into guilty verdicts.
In reality weather you agree with his conviction or not, could you think of a better person to hire to train your IT staff against social engineering ? or to test them ?
some college boy wanna be script kiddie is not going to have the needed skills OR experience in this field without breaking a law, and therefor they are also a felon. they just haven't been caught yet.
uh.... and exactly HOW are they going to do that ? sue the thousands of coders who contribute to linux ? sue linus ? all of SCO's code can be replaced in linux (if it alreadt hasn't). but Sun has a very limited development team and a big target on them just like IBM its called being a company, they can be sued and givin a public "black eye"
as a matter of fact IIRC anything in the kernel is GPL'ed so i KNOW sco's code is not in the kernel, code based on SCO's code might be, but that wont stand in court. however it is known to be fact that AIX, solaris etc... use SCO's code.
thats because they only distributed it on the LX50. they never sold it as a stand alone piece of software, and they have only been offering it for 6-7 months.
on the other hand now they are going to be supporting up to 4 other major distros. so they just multiplied their linux push to the power of 4.
to list some of the stuff they contibute to....
The kernel
Gnome
openoffice
Gridengine
Mozilla
so uhh what have YOU contributed to ? Sun contributes more to the open source community than just about any other major company. (IBM is the one exception.)
READ THE ARTICLE. they are still offering linux, just not Sun linux. they are looking to offering/supporting redhat, debian, suse et all. they just havent decieded which ones yet.
are you on crack ? redhat offers better support than microsoft. and IBM has one of the best support divisions in the IT industry and they both offer enterprise level support for linux.
Sun uses Java login cards. basically a blade system sitting on a desk/cubicle with a slot in it, you stick in your card and it pulls up your desktop etc..
although i am not sure exactly how it works for something like tech support or enterprise services i know for sales, and customer service its pretty much "walk in find an empty desk and work".
and i can vouch from experience that Sun's employees are mighty pissed about the way the company is going AND that their india based enterprise services suck. (i do enterprise support for Sun, via and outsourcing contract. and hence talk daily with the developers/engineers at sun)
you ignorant fool. i have been at four protests in the last week. NOT one single person i have talked to has said anything about being funded.
your opinion is that during war times people should "shut up and get in line". and that is limiting freedom, do yourself and everyone else a favor and read what you say before commenting on it your contradictory assanine bastard.
what friggin protest about this war was "sponsored" ? THAT i want a link to, and a link from a reputable source not some local underground communist news site which you publish. and SOME group SUPPORTING the protest doesnt make it sponsored. thats like saying augusta is sponsored by the KKK, you twit.
nothing. but the poll i was reffering to was pointing out that minorities are not a fan of this war. the statistics themselves are the point, if less than 50% of minorities dont want the war then there is no way 73% of ALL americans want the war.
i hate to break you the news asshole but those people support what america stands for. its called freedom. you seem to know the word, but lack clarity of the meaning, perhaps you should look it up before saying it again.
how the hell would you know if "most" of the protesters are un-informed ? more likely YOU are uninformed about both this war and why its happening AND why the protestors are protesting.
i have not yet heard about anyone asking for bush to be impeached. but i do find it ironic that he is breaking international law to start a war over someone breaking international law.
protestors are not funded. they either go and protest or they dont. simple.
just because something "isn't going to happen" doesnt make it right. and it most definetly doesnt mean you should stop fighting for your right to speak about it.
the damn president is a bumbling idoit and blair is his lapdog. bush is screwing america and its citizens more everyday. bad economy, bad laws, bad war. he says he is fighting terrorism, but this was is insiring more hate for america and its citizens. its things like this that CAUSE terrorism.
fuck bush.
fuck blair
and fuck castro, saddam, jong and you too !
thats funny according to a poll taken recently (two days ago IIRC) that was polling on approval rates based on Race only 73% of White americans aprove of the war. less than 55% of latinos. and less than 25% of african americans.
so unless 100% of everybody else approves you numbers are off. and judging by the number of people protesting your numbers are WAY off. even if "only" 40% of US citizens disapprove of this war about 90% of the rest of the world not only dissapproves of the war, but is hating us more for it.
yeah i agree with the part about Sun succeeding despite management.
the sad part is that Sun is going to end up like DEC. really good with tech stuff, really revolutionary, really bad with bussiness stuff.... which will lead to its being bought or going out of bussiness
holy crap i actually AGREE with you about something.
most americans are stoopid fat and lazy.
actually Sun didnt start hiring h1-b workers en mass until about 3 years ago. (in the tech area, not sure about sales) which was about the time they raised the h1-b visa count to help ease the need for warm bodies in the tech industry.
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last time i checked our economy wasnt in very good shape either. and that was my point.
for what its worth.
.... i picked up a dual proc 533mhz alphaserver DS20 for $800. and an Octane for $285 ..... both of them sold in the 10k plus range a few years ago .....
search for "alpha" "sparc" and "SGI" and you will come up with some nice stuff
It isn't the technical, geeky half that is the problem. It's the other 90% that sucks.
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haven't read anything more true in a LONG LONG time. (5 minutes)
A lot of folks used to love the art of the hack, and they're railing in the dust these days. So much of what we do now has nothing to do with hacking. The creativity has escaped out into the vacuum of the business world
see thats the problem, what got the industry to this point is not some fly by night club goer who works only 9-to-5. what got the industry this far was the hackers. it was the Tech Model Railroad club and the Home Brew Computer Club. it was not companies like Xerox or IBM who shitted away more good ideas than god knows what
I personally think we need to get back to that. rather than restricting and constricting we need to get back to being creative thinkers and tinkerers.
and we need to keep our jobs here so we can eat. you can't be creative when your hungry.
sad part is your right. the funny part is that this is exactly what the friggin problem with the industry is.
innovation does not work 9-to-5. PERIOD ! and all these "non-geek" tech workers ONLY want to work 9-to-5.
let american companies offshore. in 5 years when german and japanese companies are ruling our tech sector and all the fat-cat-whiteboys are out on their ass i'll be laughing at them saying i told you so.
sure. but the fan will be so loud you'll have to put the PC in the shed/garage/barn to get some sleep.
seriously some systems dont need alot of cooling power (at least not a 40CFM fan + honkin big heatsink) the problem is they are expensive as all hell.
the basic breakdown is the more power a CPU needs the hotter it will run (generally speaking). hopefully the opteron and athlon64 will help sut down on the need for Xtreme cooling.
The goal of a musician is too play music. good music.
the greedy economics behind music have kill almost all musicians, and spawned "entertainers" SEE: shitney queers.
..... there is one major flaw in your thought. that is that is is somehow helpful for women to have their own "little clique" and men must share their's.
despite what everyone seems to think BOTH sexes should be treated equally. meaning if women can have women only clubs so can men, if men have men only classes/schools etc so should women. sometimes a little separation is a good thing, i personally can't stand having my girlfriend or mother or whoever underfoot constantly, and sometimes i would much rather sit back with the boys and watch a football game (cliche' but true)
the only men who dont feel the need for "away time" from women are the ones who aren't around them alot to begin with, the same for women.
and dont quote or reference studies, papers, or ideas. because its not a fact, and i can probably dig up something that states the exact opposite within 15 minutes on google.
oh and call me a sissy or whatever, but men sometimes need a place to go where they dont feel "pressured" by women. its not just men pressuring/hitting on women. it works both ways.
yeah and ? he was convicted by a jury of people who had no goddamn idea what the trial was about. the prosecuter used scare tacticts to incite the jury into guilty verdicts.
In reality weather you agree with his conviction or not, could you think of a better person to hire to train your IT staff against social engineering ? or to test them ?
some college boy wanna be script kiddie is not going to have the needed skills OR experience in this field without breaking a law, and therefor they are also a felon. they just haven't been caught yet.
... yet.
and that is primarily because it hasnt been released.
" Do you really think MS is dumb enough to chose a key length that has any chance of being broken anytime soon? "
Do you really want me to answer that ?
ooh ooh .... im karma whoring to can i get a +5 please ?
(this was a joke)
uh .... and exactly HOW are they going to do that ? sue the thousands of coders who contribute to linux ? sue linus ? all of SCO's code can be replaced in linux (if it alreadt hasn't). but Sun has a very limited development team and a big target on them just like IBM its called being a company, they can be sued and givin a public "black eye"
... use SCO's code.
as a matter of fact IIRC anything in the kernel is GPL'ed so i KNOW sco's code is not in the kernel, code based on SCO's code might be, but that wont stand in court. however it is known to be fact that AIX, solaris etc
thats because they only distributed it on the LX50. they never sold it as a stand alone piece of software, and they have only been offering it for 6-7 months.
on the other hand now they are going to be supporting up to 4 other major distros. so they just multiplied their linux push to the power of 4.
uh are you on crack ? why don't you read the article and do some research before you post.
Sun's open source site
to list some of the stuff they contibute to....
The kernel
Gnome
openoffice
Gridengine
Mozilla
so uhh what have YOU contributed to ? Sun contributes more to the open source community than just about any other major company. (IBM is the one exception.)
READ THE ARTICLE. they are still offering linux, just not Sun linux. they are looking to offering/supporting redhat, debian, suse et all. they just havent decieded which ones yet.
if management is a viable profession, then gaming should be. it takes hella good skills to be "great" at any FPS.
are you on crack ? redhat offers better support than microsoft. and IBM has one of the best support divisions in the IT industry and they both offer enterprise level support for linux.
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Sun uses Java login cards. basically a blade system sitting on a desk/cubicle with a slot in it, you stick in your card and it pulls up your desktop etc..
although i am not sure exactly how it works for something like tech support or enterprise services i know for sales, and customer service its pretty much "walk in find an empty desk and work".
and i can vouch from experience that Sun's employees are mighty pissed about the way the company is going AND that their india based enterprise services suck. (i do enterprise support for Sun, via and outsourcing contract. and hence talk daily with the developers/engineers at sun)
you ignorant fool. i have been at four protests in the last week. NOT one single person i have talked to has said anything about being funded.
your opinion is that during war times people should "shut up and get in line". and that is limiting freedom, do yourself and everyone else a favor and read what you say before commenting on it your contradictory assanine bastard.
what friggin protest about this war was "sponsored" ? THAT i want a link to, and a link from a reputable source not some local underground communist news site which you publish. and SOME group SUPPORTING the protest doesnt make it sponsored. thats like saying augusta is sponsored by the KKK, you twit.
nothing. but the poll i was reffering to was pointing out that minorities are not a fan of this war. the statistics themselves are the point, if less than 50% of minorities dont want the war then there is no way 73% of ALL americans want the war.
i hate to break you the news asshole but those people support what america stands for. its called freedom. you seem to know the word, but lack clarity of the meaning, perhaps you should look it up before saying it again.
how the hell would you know if "most" of the protesters are un-informed ? more likely YOU are uninformed about both this war and why its happening AND why the protestors are protesting.
i have not yet heard about anyone asking for bush to be impeached. but i do find it ironic that he is breaking international law to start a war over someone breaking international law.
protestors are not funded. they either go and protest or they dont. simple.
just because something "isn't going to happen" doesnt make it right. and it most definetly doesnt mean you should stop fighting for your right to speak about it.
the damn president is a bumbling idoit and blair is his lapdog. bush is screwing america and its citizens more everyday. bad economy, bad laws, bad war. he says he is fighting terrorism, but this was is insiring more hate for america and its citizens. its things like this that CAUSE terrorism.
fuck bush.
fuck blair
and fuck castro, saddam, jong and you too !
thats funny according to a poll taken recently (two days ago IIRC) that was polling on approval rates based on Race only 73% of White americans aprove of the war. less than 55% of latinos. and less than 25% of african americans.
so unless 100% of everybody else approves you numbers are off. and judging by the number of people protesting your numbers are WAY off. even if "only" 40% of US citizens disapprove of this war about 90% of the rest of the world not only dissapproves of the war, but is hating us more for it.
yeah i agree with the part about Sun succeeding despite management.
.... which will lead to its being bought or going out of bussiness
the sad part is that Sun is going to end up like DEC. really good with tech stuff, really revolutionary, really bad with bussiness stuff
holy crap i actually AGREE with you about something.
most americans are stoopid fat and lazy.
actually Sun didnt start hiring h1-b workers en mass until about 3 years ago. (in the tech area, not sure about sales) which was about the time they raised the h1-b visa count to help ease the need for warm bodies in the tech industry.