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You don't think Microsoft shipping the flash plugin with windows (95 and 98 had it by default, not sure about later versions) had anything to do with it?
What I've never understood about laws like this is the location of the person vs. the location of the server.
Let's say I'm in Europe and my server is in the USA (pretty common I would guess). Whose laws am I subject to? And let's say I'm subject to European laws. They may be able to arrest me, but I would assume they have no legal right to force the ISP to remove my content.
Have there been any precedents around this sort of thing? And what country combination were those precedents?
Kazaa seems to be depending on this model - clients in the USA (and everywhere else, but USA is where the legal action is around Kazaa), staff in Australia, company & servers in Vanuatu. Maybe they are taking advantage of the confusion?
It's also a lot like/. Report on the things you believe on (pro-OSS, anti-MS), avoid linking to things that go against that belief system, and report unconfirmed rumours (ie. Michael Robertson saying Microsoft were selling WinXP for $50 to Lindows customers, later refuted) as fact.
It's really hard to see the difference between/., religious extremists and conspiracy theorists. All 3 will make sure the "facts" line up with their beliefs, regardless of what is really happening.
I expect to be modded to -500 for this, but such is life...
If Microsoft sell at full price to schools, they are scum If they "back license" schools (as they are doing) they are competing with linux If they give software free to schools they are trying to screw Apple.
Not giving them much wriggle room are you? What are they SUPPOSED to be doing?
I couldn't read the article as it's/.ed (mirrors anyone?)
But my perspective as a broadband user in Australia...
Frankly, I don't see there's a big problem. I pay my money (which as much as I can tell is roughly in keeping with global prices), and get a reasonably good, fast connection. Yes, almost all broadband providers have download caps (typically around 1 - 4Gb/month), but that's not a problem for most people, just leeches mostly.
If you use Telstra for your broadband, you might get lousy customer service (as I did before I switched) but now I'm with a smaller provider (Internode) and quite happy with them. Good connections, good service, reasonable prices.
Why the take up is so low, I don't know (maybe the article does), but I've got it, it wasn't hard and I'm happy.
FYI, I pay $A80/month for a semi-high end plan which is roughly $US55. Basic plans start around $A50 - 60/month, perhaps even lower.
Now, this might be right and it might not be. But I wouldn't take Michael Robertson as a reliable source on things Microsoft related, particulary with (at this point) no evidence to back him up. The man who put up a large sum of money to effectively sponsor the XBox hacking competition doesn't seem to be especially objective.
The consumer doesn't need to teach Microsoft a lesson. It doesn't matter that much that "the average Joe does not see this". Most of Microsofts money comes from big companies - when a bank buys 100,000 licenses of Windows & Office. Those guys know. And if they start walking, sure, the consumer space is still left, but where ever the big guys walk to will have the money to fight the battle with MS in the consumer space.
Isn't/. supposed to be a news site? I submitted this *6 hours ago* and it's only just shown up. The editors complain about not having enough time, the site is buggy and rarely updated, important news takes 6 hours... so what do the editors do?
According to MSNBC, the process is "similar to rusting", confirming our suspicions that it is a reaction to the air. They also say it's a perfectly normal DVD in the interim, so bring on DeCSS.
a T-Mobile spokesman said the carrier had never set a definite date, only that it would begin selling the phone sometime this summer. Spokesman Philipp Schindera said there are software problems with the phone, and that T-Mobile, manufacturer HTC and Microsoft are working to fix those problems. He said the phone has not been delayed, because there are still several months of summer left.
No it doesn't mean they can get away with it. The part of my post that said "it's inexcusable" kinda hinted at that. My point is simply to not drag trustworthy computing into this, that's all.
I fully agree this passport problem is a lame & unexcusable fault that should never, ever have happened.
However, can you please stop dragging trustworthy computing into this? Bill Gates has said many times that the increased focus on security is for new products, not retrospectively fixing existing products.
The only product that is really valid to criticise under the trustworthy computing tag is Windows Server 2003 - if that has big problems, then trustworthy computing has failed. But don't drag up old products/services.
To be honest, I'm not sure why anyone would want Sun. Don't get me wrong, they have some great technology and are a good company. But they remind me a little of Digital pre-Compaq buyout, great technology which became irrelevant. The move is towards x86 technology, and with 64 bit x86 become more and more viable, there is simply less and less need for the premium price paid for Sun products.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they'll be dead in a year, just I can't see their sales growing much, and quite possible slowly reversing. There are still some very high end applications where Sun products may well be the best product for the job, but they are painting themselves into a corner - that niche is getting smaller and smaller as x86 gets better and better.
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I'd be *really* impressed if they had Duke Nukem 3.
Maybe "in the great USA, the almighty dollar speaks both last and loudest" but remember what the I in ISS stands for? USA is just one player.
I love choice... now I can not download Metallica songs as well as not buying their CDs!
You don't think Microsoft shipping the flash plugin with windows (95 and 98 had it by default, not sure about later versions) had anything to do with it?
What I've never understood about laws like this is the location of the person vs. the location of the server.
Let's say I'm in Europe and my server is in the USA (pretty common I would guess). Whose laws am I subject to? And let's say I'm subject to European laws. They may be able to arrest me, but I would assume they have no legal right to force the ISP to remove my content.
Have there been any precedents around this sort of thing? And what country combination were those precedents?
Kazaa seems to be depending on this model - clients in the USA (and everywhere else, but USA is where the legal action is around Kazaa), staff in Australia, company & servers in Vanuatu. Maybe they are taking advantage of the confusion?
Easier to close the gate on a wild horse before it escapes rather than after.
Well, I've also got Karma to burn, so...
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/., religious extremists and conspiracy theorists. All 3 will make sure the "facts" line up with their beliefs, regardless of what is really happening.
It's also a lot like
Report on the things you believe on (pro-OSS, anti-MS), avoid linking to things that go against that belief system, and report unconfirmed rumours (ie. Michael Robertson saying Microsoft were selling WinXP for $50 to Lindows customers, later refuted) as fact.
It's really hard to see the difference between
I expect to be modded to -500 for this, but such is life...
So, let me see if I've got this:
If Microsoft sell at full price to schools, they are scum
If they "back license" schools (as they are doing) they are competing with linux
If they give software free to schools they are trying to screw Apple.
Not giving them much wriggle room are you? What are they SUPPOSED to be doing?
I couldn't read the article as it's /.ed (mirrors anyone?)
But my perspective as a broadband user in Australia...
Frankly, I don't see there's a big problem. I pay my money (which as much as I can tell is roughly in keeping with global prices), and get a reasonably good, fast connection. Yes, almost all broadband providers have download caps (typically around 1 - 4Gb/month), but that's not a problem for most people, just leeches mostly.
If you use Telstra for your broadband, you might get lousy customer service (as I did before I switched) but now I'm with a smaller provider (Internode) and quite happy with them. Good connections, good service, reasonable prices.
Why the take up is so low, I don't know (maybe the article does), but I've got it, it wasn't hard and I'm happy.
FYI, I pay $A80/month for a semi-high end plan which is roughly $US55. Basic plans start around $A50 - 60/month, perhaps even lower.
Now, this might be right and it might not be. But I wouldn't take Michael Robertson as a reliable source on things Microsoft related, particulary with (at this point) no evidence to back him up. The man who put up a large sum of money to effectively sponsor the XBox hacking competition doesn't seem to be especially objective.
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The consumer doesn't need to teach Microsoft a lesson. It doesn't matter that much that "the average Joe does not see this". Most of Microsofts money comes from big companies - when a bank buys 100,000 licenses of Windows & Office. Those guys know. And if they start walking, sure, the consumer space is still left, but where ever the big guys walk to will have the money to fight the battle with MS in the consumer space.
Storing content is cheap. Creating content isn't.
"Would you like a McWine with that big mac?"
Isn't /. supposed to be a news site? I submitted this *6 hours ago* and it's only just shown up. The editors complain about not having enough time, the site is buggy and rarely updated, important news takes 6 hours... so what do the editors do?
According to MSNBC, the process is "similar to rusting", confirming our suspicions that it is a reaction to the air. They also say it's a perfectly normal DVD in the interim, so bring on DeCSS.
This is a more accurate story entitled "T-Mobile has NOT dumped MS Smartphone, just delayed it a bit".
Also, RCR says:
a T-Mobile spokesman said the carrier had never set a definite date, only that it would begin selling the phone sometime this summer. Spokesman Philipp Schindera said there are software problems with the phone, and that T-Mobile, manufacturer HTC and Microsoft are working to fix those problems. He said the phone has not been delayed, because there are still several months of summer left.
It would allow spam from any company you've done business with in the past 3 years
Damn, and I just bought some penis enlargement tablets. Now I have to wait 3 years to stop receiving spam from them!!
"Let the speculation for new uses begin!"
Isn't the first use for every new technology a new way of accessing, displaying or making pr0n?
No it doesn't mean they can get away with it. The part of my post that said "it's inexcusable" kinda hinted at that. My point is simply to not drag trustworthy computing into this, that's all.
I fully agree this passport problem is a lame & unexcusable fault that should never, ever have happened.
However, can you please stop dragging trustworthy computing into this? Bill Gates has said many times that the increased focus on security is for new products, not retrospectively fixing existing products.
The only product that is really valid to criticise under the trustworthy computing tag is Windows Server 2003 - if that has big problems, then trustworthy computing has failed. But don't drag up old products/services.
I don't consider a sex scene a break from action, well, not exactly...
/. reader, it's more like a break from tradition.
If you are a
No need to comment. Someone else will comment when it gets duped later today.
To find out about Win2k3 performing well, trys ults. asp?resulttype=noncluster
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_re
I have heard (although not personally verified) that Windows is now the number 1 on *every* performance test on TPC.
To be honest, I'm not sure why anyone would want Sun. Don't get me wrong, they have some great technology and are a good company. But they remind me a little of Digital pre-Compaq buyout, great technology which became irrelevant. The move is towards x86 technology, and with 64 bit x86 become more and more viable, there is simply less and less need for the premium price paid for Sun products.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they'll be dead in a year, just I can't see their sales growing much, and quite possible slowly reversing. There are still some very high end applications where Sun products may well be the best product for the job, but they are painting themselves into a corner - that niche is getting smaller and smaller as x86 gets better and better.