"A great deal of Microsoft's so-called IP has numerous examples of prior art in both open and closed source products. "
Some maybe. But you only see a few hot-headed ones on Slashdot. This is not an argument against what you said. Instead, I am merely pointing out that you should be careful about shaping your opinion on MS's 3,000 or so patents based on a few Slashdot stories.
Maybe I'm not giving you enough credit. (I am making an assumption here...) For that I apologize. However, I imagine there are a lot of people thinking the same thing you are even though they haven't seen that many of MS's patents.
Either way, the Open Source Community should be working in the spirit of patents. Instead of just copying what else is out there, actually go out there and innovate. If MS has a stupid patent, the best way around it is to make something better. The OSS Community not only gets to avoid MS's patents entirely, but they also finally shed themselves of the perception that for Linux to 'innovate', somebody else has to do it first.
The company I used to work for was sending very high resolution images from multiple cameras uncompressed from one unit to another to perform analytical operations on them. I think they manged to work at a gigabit, but 10 would be much nicer for them.
What would Joe Sixpack do with it? I'm not sure at the moment. Thing is, since we're working within our limitations today it's hard to concieve of whta use it'd be. However, what happens when it becomes commonplace? It does open doors. Imagine if cable companies traded in coax for ethernet. They could easily send uncompressed HDTV. That'd be pretty slick.
It's pretty obvious he meant that the food would be poisoned before they landed on soldiers' plates. Given the problems the US Army has had in Iraq, that is doubly so.
"Windows isn't given more credit because it's crap. To put it in perspective, if Windows is a 1 in terms of security, Linux is a 10 and OpenBSD is a 12. "
A lot of Linux users out there are kidding themselves. Arugably, Linux is more secure than Windows. However, most of the Windows vulnerabilities we've seen lately were actually vulnerabilitys on apps running on top of Windows, i.e. I.E.. (Yes, I know it's part of the OS, but that's not to say that Mozilla or Opera couldn't have been developed to be dangerous. Hence the 'more' in my secure commment earlier.) Install and run an insecure app on Linux, then you're just about as vulnerable to outside attack. Not as vulnerable given Linux's excellent permissions system, but it's still more than enough to do damage.
My point is not to say that Windows should be held in a better light, but rather to say that more secure is not secure. You still have to install updates, you still have to watch what you run on it, and you still need to back up/protect your data. If you're already doing that, then usability is of greater interest, and for a lot of people, Linux still has catching up to do.
Ng's got a point. The security reason for people to switch to Microsoft is not the 1 vs. 10 reason it's made out to be here. (at least when talking about personal use, I wouldn't say the same if we were talking about deploying corporate workstations.)
When i first started at my job, somebody decided he didn't like my attitude. He complained about me rather frequently. Dumb ass complained so much he ended up getting himself fired. You could always try giving him hard-to-prove reasons to not like you until his obsession overwhelms him.;)
Did you really need the "that's just not true" bit? Besides being argumentative, your own post conflicts with it. "That is just not true, in the rare circumstance that one has installed this app."
I just ask because you could have phrased that more informatively without begging for a needless rebuttal.
"slashdot isn't that crucial to your Friday night, is it?"
I wouldn't call it crucial for myself in particular, but I am working a late night. When you're paid by the project instead of by the hour, entertainment is precious. It's kind of like settling in to watch a TV show and it's cancelled due to breaking news that Martha Stewart was sentenced. Blah.
"thanks steve... is that "significant" as in "we are about 17million+ console sales behind Sony" or the other sort of "significant"? "
Ah yes, with Microsoft the glass is always half empty, isn't it? Never mind that what they do have is a pretty darned decent start for their first system and that their current line of customers have a strong chance of becoming next-gen customers.
Heh yeah. Whatever you say, man. I wish I could be non-crazy like you and run around and try to bait people by calling them something as sophisticated as 'asshole'.
"Golly, yet more proof that you're a throwaway account created by that fucking asshole NanoGator."
Heh, boy you must be really mad at NG. I imagine it happened some time after nek09 came by and confirmed that NG was right. (How come you're not accusing him of being NG, too?) Must have been a very serious blow to your ego to chase us both around and cling to the difficult-to-prove-or-disprove idea that we're the same person.
I guess I wasn't very far off the mark when I called you a snotty little brat.;)
"The tactic of calling people who disagree with you 'apologists' is getting really old. "You don't knee-jerk hate Microsoft, you're an apologist!"
This was modded as troll, but the grandfather post that was an obvious attempt to bait pro-MS response wasn't? I really hope a dude with mod points will reevaluate either parent or grandparent post's mod.
"Yeah, everybody's ignorant because they don't know of an obscure browser they weren't looking for because IE's doing its job satisfactorally for them. I think you're ignorant because you don't know what normal mapping is, even though all of use 3D artists out there consider that beginner's knowledge."
I do not think whoever modded this comment down as flamebait got the point of it. It may be hard to accept since Slashdot can't go a day without bleating on about it, but Mozilla is an obscure browser. You guys should be trying to figure out how to get a commercial on TV instead of attacking people down for raising the point that IE users aren't necessarily morons.
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"A great deal of Microsoft's so-called IP has numerous examples of prior art in both open and closed source products. "
Some maybe. But you only see a few hot-headed ones on Slashdot. This is not an argument against what you said. Instead, I am merely pointing out that you should be careful about shaping your opinion on MS's 3,000 or so patents based on a few Slashdot stories.
Maybe I'm not giving you enough credit. (I am making an assumption here...) For that I apologize. However, I imagine there are a lot of people thinking the same thing you are even though they haven't seen that many of MS's patents.
Either way, the Open Source Community should be working in the spirit of patents. Instead of just copying what else is out there, actually go out there and innovate. If MS has a stupid patent, the best way around it is to make something better. The OSS Community not only gets to avoid MS's patents entirely, but they also finally shed themselves of the perception that for Linux to 'innovate', somebody else has to do it first.
"What is needed is Penis..The missing manual (for developers)."
Some people shouldn't write comedy on an empty stomach.
"Not to flame, but is there something wrong with your keyboard? :)"
Watch it. Some of us aren't as adept at
typing one-handed as
others.
The company I used to work for was sending very high resolution images from multiple cameras uncompressed from one unit to another to perform analytical operations on them. I think they manged to work at a gigabit, but 10 would be much nicer for them.
What would Joe Sixpack do with it? I'm not sure at the moment. Thing is, since we're working within our limitations today it's hard to concieve of whta use it'd be. However, what happens when it becomes commonplace? It does open doors. Imagine if cable companies traded in coax for ethernet. They could easily send uncompressed HDTV. That'd be pretty slick.
"Yes, because all natives eat poisoned food ..."
It's pretty obvious he meant that the food would be poisoned before they landed on soldiers' plates. Given the problems the US Army has had in Iraq, that is doubly so.
"Windows isn't given more credit because it's crap. To put it in perspective, if Windows is a 1 in terms of security, Linux is a 10 and OpenBSD is a 12.
"
A lot of Linux users out there are kidding themselves. Arugably, Linux is more secure than Windows. However, most of the Windows vulnerabilities we've seen lately were actually vulnerabilitys on apps running on top of Windows, i.e. I.E.. (Yes, I know it's part of the OS, but that's not to say that Mozilla or Opera couldn't have been developed to be dangerous. Hence the 'more' in my secure commment earlier.) Install and run an insecure app on Linux, then you're just about as vulnerable to outside attack. Not as vulnerable given Linux's excellent permissions system, but it's still more than enough to do damage.
My point is not to say that Windows should be held in a better light, but rather to say that more secure is not secure. You still have to install updates, you still have to watch what you run on it, and you still need to back up/protect your data. If you're already doing that, then usability is of greater interest, and for a lot of people, Linux still has catching up to do.
Ng's got a point. The security reason for people to switch to Microsoft is not the 1 vs. 10 reason it's made out to be here. (at least when talking about personal use, I wouldn't say the same if we were talking about deploying corporate workstations.)
When i first started at my job, somebody decided he didn't like my attitude. He complained about me rather frequently. Dumb ass complained so much he ended up getting himself fired. You could always try giving him hard-to-prove reasons to not like you until his obsession overwhelms him. ;)
"That's just not true."
Did you really need the "that's just not true" bit? Besides being argumentative, your own post conflicts with it. "That is just not true, in the rare circumstance that one has installed this app."
I just ask because you could have phrased that more informatively without begging for a needless rebuttal.
"slashdot isn't that crucial to your Friday night, is it?"
I wouldn't call it crucial for myself in particular, but I am working a late night. When you're paid by the project instead of by the hour, entertainment is precious. It's kind of like settling in to watch a TV show and it's cancelled due to breaking news that Martha Stewart was sentenced. Blah.
"well shit, I wish my fav scifi shows had muppets for aliens, too."
What's your favorite sci-fi show?
"thanks steve... is that "significant" as in "we are about 17million+ console sales behind Sony" or the other sort of "significant"?
"
Ah yes, with Microsoft the glass is always half empty, isn't it? Never mind that what they do have is a pretty darned decent start for their first system and that their current line of customers have a strong chance of becoming next-gen customers.
"Perhaps they should switch to a supplier that can deliver. I hear that AMD and Intel can. ;->"
Suddenly a lot of Macs come to a screeching halt.
Heh yeah. Whatever you say, man. I wish I could be non-crazy like you and run around and try to bait people by calling them something as sophisticated as 'asshole'.
"Golly, yet more proof that you're a throwaway account created by that fucking asshole NanoGator."
;)
Heh, boy you must be really mad at NG. I imagine it happened some time after nek09 came by and confirmed that NG was right. (How come you're not accusing him of being NG, too?) Must have been a very serious blow to your ego to chase us both around and cling to the difficult-to-prove-or-disprove idea that we're the same person.
I guess I wasn't very far off the mark when I called you a snotty little brat.
"Just watch yourself. One of these days, us Autosexuals will band together and have pride parades!"
Just remember, you're in the last generation of autosexuals there.
"It's funny how you and NanoGator seem to attack the same people in the same threads - almost as if it is one person with two accounts."
We talk on ICQ a lot.
"and state UP FRONT that you treat non-paying players as second class citizen"
Read the FAQ just like everybody else does, jackass.
"I'm not going to reply to the rest of what you wrote because it's just more nonsense from someone who obviously can't admit that they're wrong. "
Do you realize what a snotty little brat you sound like right now?
"The tactic of calling people who disagree with you 'apologists' is getting really old. "You don't knee-jerk hate Microsoft, you're an apologist!"
This was modded as troll, but the grandfather post that was an obvious attempt to bait pro-MS response wasn't? I really hope a dude with mod points will reevaluate either parent or grandparent post's mod.
"Yeah, everybody's ignorant because they don't know of an obscure browser they weren't looking for because IE's doing its job satisfactorally for them. I think you're ignorant because you don't know what normal mapping is, even though all of use 3D artists out there consider that beginner's knowledge."
I do not think whoever modded this comment down as flamebait got the point of it. It may be hard to accept since Slashdot can't go a day without bleating on about it, but Mozilla is an obscure browser. You guys should be trying to figure out how to get a commercial on TV instead of attacking people down for raising the point that IE users aren't necessarily morons.
"S(t)FU ! :P (Score:0, Troll) "
Guess the mods don't always RTFA.
"Will this put an end of DDOS attacks?"
We're under attack! Rotate DNS frequencies!
"but for the love of you know who, stop complaining..."
You love Valdemort?
"I find Microsoft guility of contempt -- contempt of not upgrading their browser."
Translation: "Microsoft sucks and I'm low on karma. Mod me up!"
"Should I be on the edge of my seat for the 30 DVD LOTR box set?"
That depends, are you a fan of LoTR? I heard somewhere that if you aren't that interested in it, you don't actually have to buy it.