> Take, for example, Sim City. Sure, these games are constructive, but they also have a destructive side. I used to work as a lab aid in my local library, and the children would take out games like the Sim series, just to be the 'benovlent god'. That type of behavior just seems unhealthy to me.
hmm.. it seems extremely healthy to me. Anyone who here who HASNT tried the most spectacular way to completely fuck up a game? Try to make people live in a nuclear waste area? See if you can get one rollercoaster to launch a cart straight into another coaster?
Seriously.. all building type games leave room for 'abuse' (for want of a better word), and if you're worried about that abuse.. stay away. So I guess that leaves puzzle games (tetris), platform games (sonic), and barbie fashion designer..
can anyone look at the source? say... me? you? any user? can I rebuild from source (if not.. how can I see that the source is indeed the same as the compiled product?)
if not everyone can look at it it's not public. if it's not verifiably the code, it's not public.
and let's face it.. Outlook has a history of being (ab)used for viruses, and will really have something to prove to rise above "least reliable".
a dutch insurance company is (going to?) offer this for speeding. get a gps installed, and you pay a whole lot less, unless you actually do speed. this is NOT related in any way to speed-tickets..
And we do it becaus it means less time spent reinventing the wheel. over and over and over again, Open Source projects have allowed me as a developer to roll out stable and working applications for the company I work for. Applications with few bugs, most of which can be fixed easily and quickly either by my company or by the maintainers, resulting in higher quality software for less time spent. We want the best we can get, and the only way to know is to look under the hood and tweak the engine to maximum performance, minimal sound, or best fuel-consumption. Open Source allows us to do just that.
I just have to wonder... is the same question asked of Microsoft.. why do you close your source?
>By a stroke of good fortune, NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory satellite happened to be looking when the presumed black hole enjoyed a quick snack of gas and dust.
give or take a few million years... light does take a little while to reach us from the middle of the galaxy you know:)
to make sure that if you have a bottle of sulfuric acid, nitric acid and some glycerol, you don't want to accidently mix the acids in a 3 to 1 ration, and then inadvertently add the glycerol. don't breath the resulting product, since it vaporizes eaily and is an oft-used medicine for heartpatients. It widens bloodvessels. it is also rumoured this stuff makes a mighty good explosion. The exact product left as a reader's exercise...
the phone-lines are privately owned. a private network. the phonecompany is NOT allowed to listen in on each and every call which I may use to prepare an assassination. I have a right to privacy.
>I guess he's thinking the "Living Dead Movies" were about the unfortunate people that died of AIDS/HIV and are now rising from their graves wanting brains!
It was a way to get to the victim's intellectual property, which is obviously stored in their brains! It's all a conspiracy to void the patents of good american capitalist pharmaceutic companies!
Even if they did (I don't know), there is a clause which allows governments to suspend patents, exactly for cases like this. And industry got a say in those patent agreements too, so they shouldn't whine when it is used in a correct manner.
write your own, use the envelope. Have MS pay for anti-MS letters..
//rdj
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it's free again on the NS site:)
ofcourse.. what also helped was the fact that a LOT of the users of the online travelplanner where students, checking the train from the university, which doesn't use modems.
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I know of some legit pornsites that use it. But yes.. it is easy to scam with this..
Since I never felt the urge to use these plugins for easy (and high-priced) billing, I can't tell you the price, and I am not sure my boss would appreciate me finding out;)
//rdj
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and once again.. it's porn. Certain porn-sites use a 'plugin' that basically makes your modem call a commercial dialin point owned by the porn-server. This makes for easy billing.
BSD is completely free(dom), the GPL forces you to let others free(dom). So yes.. inherently the GPL is less free. Ofcourse.. the GPL does have a bit of an agenda (which I personally happen to agree with). By forcing freedom, the GPL is less free.
> So if you give even a little hint that there is a problem, it wont be long and the real black hats will have tracked down the hole and written their own exploit.
true. However, except for the colour of their hats I think there is no significant difference between white and black hat hackers. If a white hat found a hole, there's a decent chance a black hat found it too, or will find it, even without disclosure. In that case partial disclosure may alert people that there may be a problem, and some extra caution/logchecking/tcpdumping might be in order...
security through obscurity is a fallacy, but it can delay the inevitable..
seriously.. maybe a stepped grace-period would be an idea?
step 1: Bug is found, creator is notified
step 2: 2 weeks later. if bug is fixed, go to step 3. disclose existence of a bug, not much details yet
step 3: full disclosure
just shooting off the hip here...
//rdj
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>Of course, she will need to call you (assuming she doesn't use hotmail instead),...
just to be sure, put hotmail in her hosts file.. Oh yes.. I am an evil bastard, but all is fair in love and war;)
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IIRC, iraq also prices its oil in euros..
//rdj
> Take, for example, Sim City. Sure, these games are constructive, but they also have a destructive side. I used to work as a lab aid in my local library, and the children would take out games like the Sim series, just to be the 'benovlent god'. That type of behavior just seems unhealthy to me.
hmm.. it seems extremely healthy to me. Anyone who here who HASNT tried the most spectacular way to completely fuck up a game? Try to make people live in a nuclear waste area? See if you can get one rollercoaster to launch a cart straight into another coaster?
Seriously.. all building type games leave room for 'abuse' (for want of a better word), and if you're worried about that abuse.. stay away. So I guess that leaves puzzle games (tetris), platform games (sonic), and barbie fashion designer..
//rdj
it's because we're all socialists (at least some, mainly north-americans, seem to think so)
//rdj
can anyone look at the source? say... me? you? any user? can I rebuild from source (if not.. how can I see that the source is indeed the same as the compiled product?)
if not everyone can look at it it's not public. if it's not verifiably the code, it's not public.
and let's face it.. Outlook has a history of being (ab)used for viruses, and will really have something to prove to rise above "least reliable".
//rdj
a dutch insurance company is (going to?) offer this for speeding. get a gps installed, and you pay a whole lot less, unless you actually do speed. this is NOT related in any way to speed-tickets..
//rdj
Yes, they are.. although most changes are minimal, trivial, or machine specific.
//rdj
And we do it becaus it means less time spent reinventing the wheel. over and over and over again, Open Source projects have allowed me as a developer to roll out stable and working applications for the company I work for. Applications with few bugs, most of which can be fixed easily and quickly either by my company or by the maintainers, resulting in higher quality software for less time spent. We want the best we can get, and the only way to know is to look under the hood and tweak the engine to maximum performance, minimal sound, or best fuel-consumption. Open Source allows us to do just that.
I just have to wonder... is the same question asked of Microsoft.. why do you close your source?
//rdj
>By a stroke of good fortune, NASA's Chandra X-ray Observatory satellite happened to be looking when the presumed black hole enjoyed a quick snack of gas and dust.
:)
give or take a few million years... light does take a little while to reach us from the middle of the galaxy you know
//rdj
since I live in the Netherlands, I'm all for it.
dutch coffeeshops thrive on both marihuana and coffee, and usually serve a bloody good cup.
//rdj
>The point of academia is fame, not fortune.
actually, the point is knowledge. not fame, not fortune.
//rdj
from the pressrelease:
:). but looks like the distro isn't quitting at least.
>Most new hires came in to work on projects that had the potential to bring in revenue sooner than NOW,[...]
awesome... progeny may have a time machine.
too bad though.. I just installed progeny debian, and it works like a charm
//rdj
to make sure that if you have a bottle of sulfuric acid, nitric acid and some glycerol, you don't want to accidently mix the acids in a 3 to 1 ration, and then inadvertently add the glycerol. don't breath the resulting product, since it vaporizes eaily and is an oft-used medicine for heartpatients. It widens bloodvessels. it is also rumoured this stuff makes a mighty good explosion. The exact product left as a reader's exercise...
//rdj
what dmitry did is very much like yelling 'FIRE' in a theater. When there actually is a fire...
//rdj
but hardly as much fun...
//rdj
the phone-lines are privately owned. a private network. the phonecompany is NOT allowed to listen in on each and every call which I may use to prepare an assassination. I have a right to privacy.
//rdj
>I guess he's thinking the "Living Dead Movies" were about the unfortunate people that died of AIDS/HIV and are now rising from their graves wanting brains!
It was a way to get to the victim's intellectual property, which is obviously stored in their brains! It's all a conspiracy to void the patents of good american capitalist pharmaceutic companies!
//rdj
Even if they did (I don't know), there is a clause which allows governments to suspend patents, exactly for cases like this. And industry got a say in those patent agreements too, so they shouldn't whine when it is used in a correct manner.
//rdj
write your own, use the envelope. Have MS pay for anti-MS letters..
//rdj
it's free again on the NS site :)
ofcourse.. what also helped was the fact that a LOT of the users of the online travelplanner where students, checking the train from the university, which doesn't use modems.
//rdj
I know of some legit pornsites that use it. But yes.. it is easy to scam with this..
;)
Since I never felt the urge to use these plugins for easy (and high-priced) billing, I can't tell you the price, and I am not sure my boss would appreciate me finding out
//rdj
and once again.. it's porn. Certain porn-sites use a 'plugin' that basically makes your modem call a commercial dialin point owned by the porn-server. This makes for easy billing.
//rdj
BSD is completely free(dom), the GPL forces you to let others free(dom). So yes.. inherently the GPL is less free. Ofcourse.. the GPL does have a bit of an agenda (which I personally happen to agree with). By forcing freedom, the GPL is less free.
//rdj
> So if you give even a little hint that there is a problem, it wont be long and the real black hats will have tracked down the hole and written their own exploit.
true. However, except for the colour of their hats I think there is no significant difference between white and black hat hackers. If a white hat found a hole, there's a decent chance a black hat found it too, or will find it, even without disclosure. In that case partial disclosure may alert people that there may be a problem, and some extra caution/logchecking/tcpdumping might be in order...
//rdj
security through obscurity is a fallacy, but it can delay the inevitable..
seriously.. maybe a stepped grace-period would be an idea?
step 1: Bug is found, creator is notified
step 2: 2 weeks later. if bug is fixed, go to step 3. disclose existence of a bug, not much details yet
step 3: full disclosure
just shooting off the hip here...
//rdj
>Of course, she will need to call you (assuming she doesn't use hotmail instead),...
;)
just to be sure, put hotmail in her hosts file.. Oh yes.. I am an evil bastard, but all is fair in love and war
//rdj