Actually, I just registered, and I'm in Maryland. Durring the registration process, it asks you for a state. I answered truthfully just to try it out and it still took it. I haven't installed the software yet (still at work), but it seems to work for non-Hoosiers as well.
Oh, speed wasn't a problem as of five minutes ago either. Seemed pretty responsive.
...except that gentoo doesn't use a diff at all from version to version (at least not kernel version, patch level is something diffrent). Every kernel source build in the portage tree downloads a FULL source tarball (linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2) and then patches that. 2.4.27 comes out tomarrow? You're downloading another 30M tarball (or whatever they're running nowadays).
I don't mean to rag on portage, it's a great system. It certaintly doesn't use diffs as the grandparent mentioned, though.
Serials from the windows versions DO work with the Loki port. I say that with absolute certainty. There's nothing stopping you from picking up a $5 copy of the windows version from the bargain bin and using it.
I was curious about that, too. However, since the serial is only needed to create a new account, they may just turn that portion of the authentication system off, and allow people to create accounts with invalid serials. Just a guess, though.
Forget being packaged up, Gnome 2.6 still (to my knowledge) hasn't been released yet. The gnome.org site still doesn't mention anything about 2.6 (beyond the 2.5 roadmap), just the delay from the intrusion. The desktop releases directory stops at 2.5 as well.
At least once the Gnome team finishes whatever integrity checks they've got going, we'll start hearing from the Gentoo zealots.
It tends to happen a lot with banks. I know I've had a lot of issues with my online banking website claiming my browser didn't support 128 bit encryption with the default browser string. Spoofing as IE 6 caused it to load fine though, security et all.
I think my University's online payment system through the Bursar also had some issues accepting Mozilla at first. Half the lab machines were Sun Ultra 5s, though, and they got a lot of complaints about people not being able to pay thier bills from the available machines.
I could definitly see some uses for this for large organizations with a fair number of people and lots of space. Could be great for college campuses and organizations who already have extensive wireless coverage. Instead of having a cordless phone that reaches to the end of the hall, it now covers the entire lot. Could cut down on cell phone costs a good bit.
Unfortunatly the upgrade I'm dealing with is a self-contained windows executable. It looks like that app will only accept BIN images. If I had a simple BIN image, I could just set up a DOS boot cdrom, and all would be good.
I did try setting a disk up last night, but Dell's BIOS flashing app requires you to have the AC and battery in to flash, and for some reason it isn't detecting correctly (even though both are in and my screen's brightness kicks up as soon as I pop in the AC). It probably has something to do with WinPE not having a full ACPI implementation or something. I'm trying to find some command line parameter to disable that check, but I've had no luck so far.
Anybody know this could be used to run a Win32 based BIOS flashing app? The last few BIOS updates Dell's put out for my Inspiron 5150 have been apps that run within windows, and one fixes and issue with battery charging that's been driving me nuts. I haven't been able to use them, since I run a full linux shop. If it could work, I'll barrow my roomate's machine for a bit, burn a disc, and give it a try.
But if I break my leg, I'll go straight to any hospital I can find, and they'll fix it up for free. I don't even have to tell them who I am.
What's to stop someone from Buffalo who broke thier leg in the k-Mart parking lot from hopping the border and getting fixed up on good old Canada's dime? Seems like you would have to display some type of national healthcare identification or a driver's license to at least prove you were a Canadian citizen.
If you're right, I know where I'm having my roommate drive me next time I pop something skiing...
I wonder if a 64 bit OS will make any performance difference for the average desktop user. Since its not like any normal people have more than a gig of ram anyways. Is it possible that it could even slow down 32 bit apps?
At this point it probably isn't going to make a big diffrence for Mr. Joe Average Desktop User. Most normal people don't have 64-bit processors, though. The ones that do have 64-bit systems are the power users who are going to dump in a gig of ram, anyway. After spending a few hundrad dollars on a new 64-bit system and motherboard, what are the chances you're going to cut corners and buy 512M of ram, anyway?
(No idea why the parent is modded funny, by the way)
I think there's a great deal of value in the comparison itself. Gentoo is said to be faster because of it's nature (the recompiling of packages in portage), but just how much faster is it? The benchmarks can help Joe Mandrakeuser decide if it's worth it to switch over to Gentoo for the previously unquantified performance gains. Maybe it'll prove that Gentoo isn't all that b etter performance-wise than Mandrake, and it really isn't worth it for him to recompile everything.
If nothing else, having a couple "standard" distros in will present a baseline to compare everything against (X% faster than Mandrake, etc).
It's close. The other main feature is that is standardizes the implementation across platforms. An gint (glib integer) is always going to be a set number of bytes, no matter if it's on a 64bit Alpha or a Motorola 68040 Mac. It makes porting code a LOT easier.
Universities have been doing this for a while with other services. I know one or two colleges I used to do IT work for cut deals with to Microsoft offer Office to the students for $1 (price of the blank it was burned on). Of course, the money that paid for that deal came straight from tuition.
Yeah, it sounds crappy, and it is. Especially when you consider the students using alternate operating systems (rare), alternative office suites (just about as rare), or who already have Office bundled with thier PC (not so rare). The important part is, this is probably the least any University is shafting you for anyway. Sports teams, SGA sponsored clubs, "Greek Life," faculty seminars, and other programs that maybe 35% (at best) of students can/will take advantage of are a University's bread and butter. Here at UMD we're got a "Manditory fee" in excess of $500 showing up on our tuition bill, that we really know nothing about. It's affectionatly refered to as the "Bend over fee," as that's pretty much all we can do about it.
Moral Of The Story: The University is screwing you already. This mandatory music service is probably the least of Penn State students' worries.
Most of the stuff started in the init process isn't needed to work as a workstation, aside from networking maybe.
If a workstation doesn't need it, a workstation doesn't need to start it. There's nothing stopping you from removing the symlinks to the startup scripts you don't need in the SysV system. Init works fine as it is, it may just take a bit of jiggering.
As a side note, is there anything stopping you from putting starting X at the beginning of the init stack under the current SysV system?
Nope. I think it's been mentioned a couple of times now that SCO is crafting the binary run-time license so that if things go south in the legal department, they aren't out squat.
I think getting the wording of this clause right in legalspeak is one of the things holding the licenses up. One wrong phrase in there and it could be the end if they lose the court case. The important part is making sure they don't imply ownership of the code, just that it removes the possibility of litigation against the end user.
Actually, the article doesn't say the study is independent at all. They come right out and say that it was paid for by Microsoft. I think the independent thing was (incorrectly) added by the submitter.
And actually, coming up with a non profit organization and putting all the cash directly into your salary works, in some cases. Your company posts no profits whatsoever. Personally, you're a bit better off....
Strangely enough, University of Maryland, College Park seems to be an almost entirely UNIX based shop. The development cluster used for most Computer Science courses is Digital UNIX based, on alphas. Basic UNIX commands are part of the entry level curiculum, and most development is done with either gcc or cxx, Compaq's alpha compiler (You can develop your stuff on whatever you want, but when you submit it damn well better compile and hit the primary output given the specified compiler). Most of the labs contain Sun Ultrasparc based machines running Solaris, if not being entirely comprised of them.
Microsoft has been trying to give a lot of "technology preview" presentations on campus, with freebies to atendees. A couple of CS guys I know sat through thier.NET presentation and walked out with an academic copy of XP Pro and VS.NET. Most of them installed Visual Stuio, and probably haven't touched it since.
Can you run an MS based development system at College Park? Sure, but it's going to be your ass when you rely on Microsoft's compiler. The first time you end up spending 12 hours debugging because Visual C++ let you get away with some random pointer based wackyness, but g++ beats you down tends to be your last. Most students just SSH into the cluster and go it from there, although a couple run linux or bsd systems, with a few using cygwin and the like.
I feel for you out there in Europe, but at least some of us here in Maryland have some leeway.
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... much like a futuristic war in Iraq.
Firearms and ammunition illegal in Texas, tha's a good one....
Actually, I just registered, and I'm in Maryland. Durring the registration process, it asks you for a state. I answered truthfully just to try it out and it still took it. I haven't installed the software yet (still at work), but it seems to work for non-Hoosiers as well. Oh, speed wasn't a problem as of five minutes ago either. Seemed pretty responsive.
...except that gentoo doesn't use a diff at all from version to version (at least not kernel version, patch level is something diffrent). Every kernel source build in the portage tree downloads a FULL source tarball (linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2) and then patches that. 2.4.27 comes out tomarrow? You're downloading another 30M tarball (or whatever they're running nowadays).
I don't mean to rag on portage, it's a great system. It certaintly doesn't use diffs as the grandparent mentioned, though.
Serials from the windows versions DO work with the Loki port. I say that with absolute certainty. There's nothing stopping you from picking up a $5 copy of the windows version from the bargain bin and using it.
I was curious about that, too. However, since the serial is only needed to create a new account, they may just turn that portion of the authentication system off, and allow people to create accounts with invalid serials. Just a guess, though.
Forget being packaged up, Gnome 2.6 still (to my knowledge) hasn't been released yet. The gnome.org site still doesn't mention anything about 2.6 (beyond the 2.5 roadmap), just the delay from the intrusion. The desktop releases directory stops at 2.5 as well.
At least once the Gnome team finishes whatever integrity checks they've got going, we'll start hearing from the Gentoo zealots.
... except that the given link comes up with a 404 Error. The page isn't there anymore.
It tends to happen a lot with banks. I know I've had a lot of issues with my online banking website claiming my browser didn't support 128 bit encryption with the default browser string. Spoofing as IE 6 caused it to load fine though, security et all.
I think my University's online payment system through the Bursar also had some issues accepting Mozilla at first. Half the lab machines were Sun Ultra 5s, though, and they got a lot of complaints about people not being able to pay thier bills from the available machines.
I could definitly see some uses for this for large organizations with a fair number of people and lots of space. Could be great for college campuses and organizations who already have extensive wireless coverage. Instead of having a cordless phone that reaches to the end of the hall, it now covers the entire lot. Could cut down on cell phone costs a good bit.
Well, the day of reckoning has arrived. Anybody have any news/links on if they actually fired the first salvo?
Unfortunatly the upgrade I'm dealing with is a self-contained windows executable. It looks like that app will only accept BIN images. If I had a simple BIN image, I could just set up a DOS boot cdrom, and all would be good.
I did try setting a disk up last night, but Dell's BIOS flashing app requires you to have the AC and battery in to flash, and for some reason it isn't detecting correctly (even though both are in and my screen's brightness kicks up as soon as I pop in the AC). It probably has something to do with WinPE not having a full ACPI implementation or something. I'm trying to find some command line parameter to disable that check, but I've had no luck so far.
Anybody know this could be used to run a Win32 based BIOS flashing app? The last few BIOS updates Dell's put out for my Inspiron 5150 have been apps that run within windows, and one fixes and issue with battery charging that's been driving me nuts. I haven't been able to use them, since I run a full linux shop. If it could work, I'll barrow my roomate's machine for a bit, burn a disc, and give it a try.
It hasn't been integrated into mainstrem yet, but it is integrated into Andrew Morton's patchset.
All reports say yet, including Atari's initial press release. Should actually have Tux on the box.
But if I break my leg, I'll go straight to any hospital I can find, and they'll fix it up for free. I don't even have to tell them who I am.
What's to stop someone from Buffalo who broke thier leg in the k-Mart parking lot from hopping the border and getting fixed up on good old Canada's dime? Seems like you would have to display some type of national healthcare identification or a driver's license to at least prove you were a Canadian citizen.
If you're right, I know where I'm having my roommate drive me next time I pop something skiing...
I wonder if a 64 bit OS will make any performance difference for the average desktop user. Since its not like any normal people have more than a gig of ram anyways. Is it possible that it could even slow down 32 bit apps?
At this point it probably isn't going to make a big diffrence for Mr. Joe Average Desktop User. Most normal people don't have 64-bit processors, though. The ones that do have 64-bit systems are the power users who are going to dump in a gig of ram, anyway. After spending a few hundrad dollars on a new 64-bit system and motherboard, what are the chances you're going to cut corners and buy 512M of ram, anyway?
(No idea why the parent is modded funny, by the way)
I think there's a great deal of value in the comparison itself. Gentoo is said to be faster because of it's nature (the recompiling of packages in portage), but just how much faster is it? The benchmarks can help Joe Mandrakeuser decide if it's worth it to switch over to Gentoo for the previously unquantified performance gains. Maybe it'll prove that Gentoo isn't all that b etter performance-wise than Mandrake, and it really isn't worth it for him to recompile everything.
If nothing else, having a couple "standard" distros in will present a baseline to compare everything against (X% faster than Mandrake, etc).
It's close. The other main feature is that is standardizes the implementation across platforms. An gint (glib integer) is always going to be a set number of bytes, no matter if it's on a 64bit Alpha or a Motorola 68040 Mac. It makes porting code a LOT easier.
There are some experimental Gentoo LiveCDs for x86 using the 2.6 test kernels at http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/experimental/x86/liv ecd/
Not too useful if you're trying to run off the CD, but not bad if you want to test 2.6 compatability or need a rescue CD.
Universities have been doing this for a while with other services. I know one or two colleges I used to do IT work for cut deals with to Microsoft offer Office to the students for $1 (price of the blank it was burned on). Of course, the money that paid for that deal came straight from tuition.
Yeah, it sounds crappy, and it is. Especially when you consider the students using alternate operating systems (rare), alternative office suites (just about as rare), or who already have Office bundled with thier PC (not so rare). The important part is, this is probably the least any University is shafting you for anyway. Sports teams, SGA sponsored clubs, "Greek Life," faculty seminars, and other programs that maybe 35% (at best) of students can/will take advantage of are a University's bread and butter. Here at UMD we're got a "Manditory fee" in excess of $500 showing up on our tuition bill, that we really know nothing about. It's affectionatly refered to as the "Bend over fee," as that's pretty much all we can do about it.
Moral Of The Story: The University is screwing you already. This mandatory music service is probably the least of Penn State students' worries.
If a workstation doesn't need it, a workstation doesn't need to start it. There's nothing stopping you from removing the symlinks to the startup scripts you don't need in the SysV system. Init works fine as it is, it may just take a bit of jiggering.
As a side note, is there anything stopping you from putting starting X at the beginning of the init stack under the current SysV system?
Nope. I think it's been mentioned a couple of times now that SCO is crafting the binary run-time license so that if things go south in the legal department, they aren't out squat.
I think getting the wording of this clause right in legalspeak is one of the things holding the licenses up. One wrong phrase in there and it could be the end if they lose the court case. The important part is making sure they don't imply ownership of the code, just that it removes the possibility of litigation against the end user.
Actually, the article doesn't say the study is independent at all. They come right out and say that it was paid for by Microsoft. I think the independent thing was (incorrectly) added by the submitter. And actually, coming up with a non profit organization and putting all the cash directly into your salary works, in some cases. Your company posts no profits whatsoever. Personally, you're a bit better off....
Strangely enough, University of Maryland, College Park seems to be an almost entirely UNIX based shop. The development cluster used for most Computer Science courses is Digital UNIX based, on alphas. Basic UNIX commands are part of the entry level curiculum, and most development is done with either gcc or cxx, Compaq's alpha compiler (You can develop your stuff on whatever you want, but when you submit it damn well better compile and hit the primary output given the specified compiler). Most of the labs contain Sun Ultrasparc based machines running Solaris, if not being entirely comprised of them.
Microsoft has been trying to give a lot of "technology preview" presentations on campus, with freebies to atendees. A couple of CS guys I know sat through thier .NET presentation and walked out with an academic copy of XP Pro and VS .NET. Most of them installed Visual Stuio, and probably haven't touched it since.
Can you run an MS based development system at College Park? Sure, but it's going to be your ass when you rely on Microsoft's compiler. The first time you end up spending 12 hours debugging because Visual C++ let you get away with some random pointer based wackyness, but g++ beats you down tends to be your last. Most students just SSH into the cluster and go it from there, although a couple run linux or bsd systems, with a few using cygwin and the like.
I feel for you out there in Europe, but at least some of us here in Maryland have some leeway.