because Linux has, like, 14 games, and Windows has, like, 5000000 games.
Shit, man, you may as well ask why they didnt benchmark Mac. It always amuses me how the biggest seller for Mac games is always something so old no PC gamers are even playing it anymore.
Dont get me wrong, this isnt a slam against Linux. But Linux isnt the be-all and end-all of computing that most people make it out to be. Most developers make software for Windows because they have the biggest market share, developers know how to program for it, and- the biggest factor- companies know they can make money selling software for the PC. Hell, if you are too cheap/poor to pay for an OS, how willing will that market be to pay for your software?
id makes so much money they can afford to play around with money-losing propositions like making a linux port of Quake 2 or 3. But except for the dedicated server component, it really isnt cost (or time) effective to make a second-tier OS port. You dont delay a product for two months so you can concurrently release the Linux/Mac client which accounts for 1% of your sales base. Most companies that actually do release an alternate client mainly do so because the programmers are fans of that OS and work on it in their own time.
The developers may get burned by Slashdot for not making a port, but so what? It's only complaints from a very loud and vocal minority: think Simpson's Comic Book Geek here. Worst... Game... Ever...
I dont know about that. Our department supports over 700 users, and including myself there are six people doing support. I dont really do user support anymore, but since I worked up thru user support I help the others out with problems, generally with better support tools and using logon scripts to make site-wide fixes.
Maybe your network architect put together a really crappy network. Mine runs really well. In fact, back in 1996 the team I was on supported 500+ users mainly using Win95, all with one lead admin, and two (sometimes three) junior admins/user support.
So the ratio of SKILLED people seems to be one to 117-167. Maybe you guys dont know what you are doing.
I look forward to this trend. Soon, many more linux servers will be getting 0wnZed.
Seriously, however, nobody is going to pay an 18 year old $30k/yr. It wasnt until recently that I have been able to make good money, because most corporate people dont promote or pay well "youngsters" (unless they are bullshitters with an MBA). Lucky for me the men in my family get grey hair early.
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I guess thats what happens when you expressly market toward people who dont understand computers, and by golly, dont want to. ever.
goombah99, please stop spewing FUD. Im so tired of people around here whining about Windows when they probably dont even use it, or they are still using a Packard Bell with Win95.
A better question is why they need to release it in ShitTime format.
Can anyone convert it to a format not tied to a proprietary codec that forces me to install buggy software on my machine? A conversion to DivX would be great!
What is the first thing that you have done with access to the internet?
Kevin:
Well, I was searching for some pr0n last night, and found some really freaky shit. Remember, the most rique thing we had before the internet was ascii pr0n. Its like there is nothing left to the imagination anymore.
But, I have no complaints. By the way, Peter Townsend is a sick fuck.
The users are the only asset of Open source software.
I dont know about assets. maybe asses, but not assets.
And I dont know if anything has ever benefitted from having a rabit, ignorant mob of supporters. It seems to me that spreading FUD about using Microsoft products is the only thing most Slashdotters do.
you may want to look at my posting "My Operating System finances Al-Queda"
Im beginning to wonder about the wisdom of taking a product made by very intelligent, educated people and giving it away for free, especially when it displaces wealth from an American company.
Yes, the networks and sites you maintain may sometimes work but are they owned by script kiddies and are launching DDOS attacks? Would you even know?
um, ya. I think I would know if we couldnt get to the internet, and you would have to be a complete fool to leave your network wide open to the network anyway.
I think the problem may be that most people (and possibly yourself, although I dont know your situation) do not understand networking best-practices. I dont care how supposedly secure any operating system is, but there is no way in hell I will allow it onto the internet without a firewall. So for any system to get "0wNzed", the need to get past the firewall first. Not impossible, but few things are impossible, only improbable.
Win95 didn't really takes computers out of the hands of the 'technological elite'. That was Win98 which was somewaht more stable. With WIn95, you said goodbye to the mainfarme expert and found yourself buying a PC expert instead.
I used to support Win95, and not only was it (Win95 OSR2, anyway) a great deal more stable than Win98, but it benchmarked faster. The sons of Win95 each got slower relative to the parent, because it used the same codebase but added bloat. From your statement its aparent you dont really know much about MS products, from a support standpoint. Just because you say it (or read it on Slashdot) doesnt make it true.
It sounds very much like you never ran somthing like an autoconfigure on a big machine. Guess what? It found all those IRQs and DMA channels for you.
No, I didnt, nor was that even what I was talking about. I was refering to the computers ordinary people used. I dont know about you, but nobody on my block had an AS400 in their house.
The Nurse didn't want a system to go down every five minutes while inputting patient data and the lawyer didn't want case files to be opened by all and sundry... etc
Can you start dealing with concrete things rather than just spewing anicdotes? You act like someone can hack into a network by mindpower alone. As far as networking goes, Win95 is fairly secure; at least enough to keep a casual person out.
Do you really want to be dependent upon a single company with no reputation for customer service to get you going?
I hope you arent refering to Microsoft. I get excellent customer service from them. Between being able to find the answers to just about any problem on Technet, I did need to call them a few times, and one time they had a patch that didnt make it into technet yet (and emailed me the patch the next day), and twice they flew somebody in to look into the problem. So as far as MS goes, I havent really seen a problem with tech support or customer service. Maybe little Johnny calling in because he cant get Quake to work wouldnt get the same level of service, but little Johnny didnt exactly rule out what was and wasnt the problem on his own and determine if it WAS the OS. Thats called being an IT pro.
It seems India and Germany seem to agree
I worked for a few international companies, and on average the products that come out of German and India are very sub-par, compared to US standards (for example, SAP has many pending lawsuits). If you want to throw your hat in with them, go right ahead. I'll stick with American IT myself, I dont have time for dealing with the bugs, bad work ethics, and language barrier.
And you may want to look at my posting "My Operating System finances Al-Queda"
When you look at the long term, your fanaticism against Microsoft may actually be doing great harm to this country. I just have a problem with habitual complainers, who bitch about everyone's perceived faults, but really do little to suggest solutions. Its just too easy to complain, but a lot of hard work to come up with actual solutions.
Strangely enough, I was thinking about this last night when I read the artice. If we divert the mindshare of our skilled workers into a product that is essentially free, we are taking the money out of the pockets of an American company. Thus, when you help Open Source you are indirectly taking money away from the US Government (which taxes MS's revenue).
And on another side, there are people who are getting developing governments (and even industrialized gvts) to switch to Linux: once again diverting funds away from an American company.
I guess the big problem with this is that you have governments and industries that are directly benefitting from the mindshare of industialized nations (and probably mainly the USA), and not giving anything back to the US in return (not even good will, it recently seems).
I guess I have no real point, but it seems that OSS is somehow a communist operating system, and will not benefit us (the industrialized world) in the long term.
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come on, its a linux story AND an Atari 2600 story. All I need is an anti-Microsoft line, and its sure to make the front page.
and the beauty of Slashdot is that none of it even has to be true!
article heading, complete with the obligatory Slashdot dig at microsoft. You can post just about anything, and as long as you bash MS (relevant or not) it will get modded up to the main page. Good Job!
well, as amazing as it may be for you to hear, the network and sites I maintain actually DO work, and we use MS for pretty much everything. Mp>For some strange reason, Exchange seems to run without me needing to see the source code... I still cant figure that one out!
My point is, YOU may have reasons to need the source code, but 99% of the people who use MS's products don't (and wouldnt know what to do with it if they could). THAT is why MS and Win95 made computing what it is- it took computers out of the hands of the technological elite, and put it in the hands of the people. I didnt really mean to make it sound so grandiose, but you get my point. They made computers accessible to regular people.
So a lawyer can just be a lawyer w.o needing to be an IT expert, and a nurse can just be a nurse w.o needing to be a unix guru. And instead of having to pay people to configure IRQs and DMAs and all that crap by hand, they made setup and installation easy. In that regard they are still way ahead of linux (even tho some distros have made big strides in the last year).
so we just have different ideas of what makes computing good. I happen to think that reaching a mass market it good for making progress. You think that having a secure niche markey makes something great. Who is right? I dont know. Bill Gates could buy Linus Torvald's family for the last four generations just to have them clean his bathroom, though.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=51788&threshol d=0&commentsort=0&tid=98&mode=thread&cid=51540 02
This was a pretty good posting, stating how it is pretty much in the music industry's best financial interest to keep selling albums full of crap music than allow people to purchase the one good song they want.
Posted by Roblimo on Monday February 03, @12:00PM
from the be-glad-you-aren't-a-defenseless-toilet dept.
This is a man who obviously knows a lot about the Internet. I am not making this up. He wrote a book about it. He has his own blog, his own Web site, and his own online alt.fan newsgroup with its own FAQ. Not only that, he is in a band and writes a syndicated humor column that often covers matters of interest to Slashdot readers. He is such a stud, if he were here I would ask him to drop trou so I could milk his mule. What are you going to ask him? Up to you, as long as you hold it down to one question per post. We'll send Dave 10 of the highest-moderated questions and post his answers as soon as we get them back, after which we're sure many alert readers will have much to add even if they haven't heard about Bennett Haselton's excellent automated Dave Barry column generator.
Honestly, we stopped using Notes (and IBM software in general) long ago due to the huge amount of bugs. Part of the problem with IBM software is that, in their attempt to NOT work with the operating system, they make their own software mimic subsystems (like printing) that could otherwise be done thru a simple Windows API call. Netscape and Apple have the same problem- basically recreating the wheel with every program, and buggy wheels they all make.
I will admit, just as an application, that Notes is kind of nice. But as far as using it, I have always hated it. Its very kludgy, very buggy, and really hard to support. Oh, if only their programmers understood how to program Windows applications...
oh, so Mac has no virus, bugs, etc? try looking here...
http://antivirus.about.com/cs/macintoshthreats/
a nd here http://www.securemac.com/
which btw has this tidbit...
1.31.2002 News Mac OS X Screen Effects' password protection contains a security flaw which allows for a user with physical access to the keyboard to be able to quit or launch programs while being prompted to enter the password. When full Keyboard access is turned on (toggled on/off by pressing shift+f1) the doc can be accessed 'blindly' although you can not see it, the doc is still functioning.
ya, really secure. so continue to not worry about it.
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Shit, man, you may as well ask why they didnt benchmark Mac. It always amuses me how the biggest seller for Mac games is always something so old no PC gamers are even playing it anymore.
Dont get me wrong, this isnt a slam against Linux. But Linux isnt the be-all and end-all of computing that most people make it out to be. Most developers make software for Windows because they have the biggest market share, developers know how to program for it, and- the biggest factor- companies know they can make money selling software for the PC. Hell, if you are too cheap/poor to pay for an OS, how willing will that market be to pay for your software?
id makes so much money they can afford to play around with money-losing propositions like making a linux port of Quake 2 or 3. But except for the dedicated server component, it really isnt cost (or time) effective to make a second-tier OS port. You dont delay a product for two months so you can concurrently release the Linux/Mac client which accounts for 1% of your sales base. Most companies that actually do release an alternate client mainly do so because the programmers are fans of that OS and work on it in their own time.
The developers may get burned by Slashdot for not making a port, but so what? It's only complaints from a very loud and vocal minority: think Simpson's Comic Book Geek here. Worst... Game... Ever...
Maybe your network architect put together a really crappy network. Mine runs really well. In fact, back in 1996 the team I was on supported 500+ users mainly using Win95, all with one lead admin, and two (sometimes three) junior admins/user support.
So the ratio of SKILLED people seems to be one to 117-167. Maybe you guys dont know what you are doing.
Seriously, however, nobody is going to pay an 18 year old $30k/yr. It wasnt until recently that I have been able to make good money, because most corporate people dont promote or pay well "youngsters" (unless they are bullshitters with an MBA). Lucky for me the men in my family get grey hair early.
I guess thats what happens when you expressly market toward people who dont understand computers, and by golly, dont want to. ever.
http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2002 /02/12/xp_review.html
http://news.com.com/2010-10 74-281429.html?legacy=cnet
Please stop your holy war and open your eyes. Its just an OS, for goodness sake, its not the second coming.
Can anyone convert it to a format not tied to a proprietary codec that forces me to install buggy software on my machine? A conversion to DivX would be great!
Kevin:
Well, I was searching for some pr0n last night, and found some really freaky shit. Remember, the most rique thing we had before the internet was ascii pr0n. Its like there is nothing left to the imagination anymore.
But, I have no complaints. By the way, Peter Townsend is a sick fuck.
I dont know about assets. maybe asses, but not assets.
And I dont know if anything has ever benefitted from having a rabit, ignorant mob of supporters. It seems to me that spreading FUD about using Microsoft products is the only thing most Slashdotters do.
you may want to look at my posting "My Operating System finances Al-Queda"
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=527 42&cid=5225058
Im beginning to wonder about the wisdom of taking a product made by very intelligent, educated people and giving it away for free, especially when it displaces wealth from an American company.
um, ya. I think I would know if we couldnt get to the internet, and you would have to be a complete fool to leave your network wide open to the network anyway.
I think the problem may be that most people (and possibly yourself, although I dont know your situation) do not understand networking best-practices. I dont care how supposedly secure any operating system is, but there is no way in hell I will allow it onto the internet without a firewall. So for any system to get "0wNzed", the need to get past the firewall first. Not impossible, but few things are impossible, only improbable.
Win95 didn't really takes computers out of the hands of the 'technological elite'. That was Win98 which was somewaht more stable. With WIn95, you said goodbye to the mainfarme expert and found yourself buying a PC expert instead.
I used to support Win95, and not only was it (Win95 OSR2, anyway) a great deal more stable than Win98, but it benchmarked faster. The sons of Win95 each got slower relative to the parent, because it used the same codebase but added bloat. From your statement its aparent you dont really know much about MS products, from a support standpoint. Just because you say it (or read it on Slashdot) doesnt make it true.
It sounds very much like you never ran somthing like an autoconfigure on a big machine. Guess what? It found all those IRQs and DMA channels for you.
No, I didnt, nor was that even what I was talking about. I was refering to the computers ordinary people used. I dont know about you, but nobody on my block had an AS400 in their house.
The Nurse didn't want a system to go down every five minutes while inputting patient data and the lawyer didn't want case files to be opened by all and sundry... etc
Can you start dealing with concrete things rather than just spewing anicdotes? You act like someone can hack into a network by mindpower alone. As far as networking goes, Win95 is fairly secure; at least enough to keep a casual person out.
Do you really want to be dependent upon a single company with no reputation for customer service to get you going?
I hope you arent refering to Microsoft. I get excellent customer service from them. Between being able to find the answers to just about any problem on Technet, I did need to call them a few times, and one time they had a patch that didnt make it into technet yet (and emailed me the patch the next day), and twice they flew somebody in to look into the problem. So as far as MS goes, I havent really seen a problem with tech support or customer service. Maybe little Johnny calling in because he cant get Quake to work wouldnt get the same level of service, but little Johnny didnt exactly rule out what was and wasnt the problem on his own and determine if it WAS the OS. Thats called being an IT pro.
It seems India and Germany seem to agree
I worked for a few international companies, and on average the products that come out of German and India are very sub-par, compared to US standards (for example, SAP has many pending lawsuits). If you want to throw your hat in with them, go right ahead. I'll stick with American IT myself, I dont have time for dealing with the bugs, bad work ethics, and language barrier.
And you may want to look at my posting "My Operating System finances Al-Queda"
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=527 42&cid=5225058
When you look at the long term, your fanaticism against Microsoft may actually be doing great harm to this country. I just have a problem with habitual complainers, who bitch about everyone's perceived faults, but really do little to suggest solutions. Its just too easy to complain, but a lot of hard work to come up with actual solutions.
And on another side, there are people who are getting developing governments (and even industrialized gvts) to switch to Linux: once again diverting funds away from an American company.
I guess the big problem with this is that you have governments and industries that are directly benefitting from the mindshare of industialized nations (and probably mainly the USA), and not giving anything back to the US in return (not even good will, it recently seems).
I guess I have no real point, but it seems that OSS is somehow a communist operating system, and will not benefit us (the industrialized world) in the long term.
and the beauty of Slashdot is that none of it even has to be true!
If only I could filter out all the anti-Microsoft FUD this place spews forth
article heading, complete with the obligatory Slashdot dig at microsoft. You can post just about anything, and as long as you bash MS (relevant or not) it will get modded up to the main page. Good Job!
My point is, YOU may have reasons to need the source code, but 99% of the people who use MS's products don't (and wouldnt know what to do with it if they could). THAT is why MS and Win95 made computing what it is- it took computers out of the hands of the technological elite, and put it in the hands of the people. I didnt really mean to make it sound so grandiose, but you get my point. They made computers accessible to regular people.
So a lawyer can just be a lawyer w.o needing to be an IT expert, and a nurse can just be a nurse w.o needing to be a unix guru. And instead of having to pay people to configure IRQs and DMAs and all that crap by hand, they made setup and installation easy. In that regard they are still way ahead of linux (even tho some distros have made big strides in the last year).
so we just have different ideas of what makes computing good. I happen to think that reaching a mass market it good for making progress. You think that having a secure niche markey makes something great. Who is right? I dont know. Bill Gates could buy Linus Torvald's family for the last four generations just to have them clean his bathroom, though.
http://forums.techguy.org/t111580/scff29c 563a81ff7b6a51de5cd787fdc9.html
and this...
and this (see especially #4, a long running problem)...
http://www.cert.org/summaries/CS-96.0 4.html
a surpisingly unbiased article from a unix guy here...
http://www.itworld.com/nl/unix_sec/082320 01/
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This was a pretty good posting, stating how it is pretty much in the music industry's best financial interest to keep selling albums full of crap music than allow people to purchase the one good song they want.
When it gets worse (and it will), what else should we do? More nothing!
Why? Because everyone should have the right to commit fraud and get fake IDs! You never know when you might have to be a fugitive from the law...
I say we stop having people in real life be "Anonymous Cowards".
Posted by Roblimo on Monday February 03, @12:00PM from the be-glad-you-aren't-a-defenseless-toilet dept. This is a man who obviously knows a lot about the Internet. I am not making this up. He wrote a book about it. He has his own blog, his own Web site, and his own online alt.fan newsgroup with its own FAQ. Not only that, he is in a band and writes a syndicated humor column that often covers matters of interest to Slashdot readers. He is such a stud, if he were here I would ask him to drop trou so I could milk his mule. What are you going to ask him? Up to you, as long as you hold it down to one question per post. We'll send Dave 10 of the highest-moderated questions and post his answers as soon as we get them back, after which we're sure many alert readers will have much to add even if they haven't heard about Bennett Haselton's excellent automated Dave Barry column generator.
I'm sticking with AmigaOS
very few people, especially on this board, contribute to any open source projects (I would say far less than 1%).
So its hardly like the great unwashed masses are making linux what it is; the unwashed masses DO, however, make Slashdot what it is...
I will admit, just as an application, that Notes is kind of nice. But as far as using it, I have always hated it. Its very kludgy, very buggy, and really hard to support. Oh, if only their programmers understood how to program Windows applications...
http://antivirus.about.com/cs/macintoshthreats/
a nd here http://www.securemac.com/
which btw has this tidbit...
if you need it to work with something else, write an f'ing driver for it. Thats called platform independence.
this is turning into "Ask Slashdot, cuz im too stupid/lazy to use Google"
All your base are belong to us!