Besides games through WINE there's also some native Linux applications like Second LIfe, which really likes a nice GPU. The only reason I have a cheap ass GT220 in this thing to upgrade the integrated 6150SE is SL.
If you think this generation has stuck around too long, what must you think of the PS2, that thing is STILL selling. You can buy new ones and new PS2 games in the stores...STILL, after 12 years.
an RPG published by Square-Enix will also be a decent game
What, you never played the crapfest that was Saga Frontier? I want to KILL whoever designed that damn font in it. (That guy who did that game ALWAYS messes things up) Or the disappointment that was Chrono Cross. Or the missed potential of FFXI, doomed by excessively conformist japanese min-maxers.
Most certainly the Cell Architecture was and probably the supporting memory stuff (crazy ass bandwidth) and the R5900 in the PS2 before it. (no consumer PC had a crazy 128-bit CPU with crazy ass bandwidth in 2000).
I would also lay odds that he PS3 is STILL better than the budget boxes in many people's homes (many are still single core with GPU's nowhere near the capability of the Nvidia chip in the PS3) Personally, this machine is a budget box with a dual core 2.4GHz CPU and by default an integrated Nvidia 6150SE. As a gaming box, the PS3 stomps it silly. Heck, Unlike many I had Linux on that PS3 and could actually compare performance in other ways. I can say that the PS3 was better with the GIMP, as long as the images weren't too big. It would scale images...faster, though the PS2 was also impressive in that regard the most computationally "hardest" scaling method was the fastest on the PS2. (probably the PS3's Altivec unit and the mipsel math optimizations on the PS2 made a difference)
Seeing Aeris die wasn't fun because her "heal the entire party every few turns" limit breaks made her damn useful while she lasted.
Healing Wind, useful until you get a Restore+All combo on everyone. But her best Limit break is actually Fury Brand, set it off and the other two characters Limit Breaks get filled up, very hand in learning each characters second Limit Break of each level. (Learned by using the first Limit a certain number of times)
Oh, they might know, but odds are they think of a PC as "something that sits on a desk and is used for desktop-y things" Especially since many PC's in homes are older machines basically used for facebook/web browsing or budget boxes that might not even be able to keep up with a PS2 let alone a PS3 or 360.
but it's interesting that every major company that's making living room entertainment devices are really going out of their way to avoid using a keyboard and mouse. They must have some research backing up their decision.
I don't know about that, PS2's/PS3's/Wii's/Xboxes all have USB ports for a reason. IMHO Sony is the most keyboard friendly, having games that support them. In fact any game that uses the PS3's standard OSK widget also sutomatically supports keyboard input to that widget. Nice for naming items in Oblivion/Skyrim.
I had a separate keyboard and mouse attached to my PS2 for those games that used them, but always wanted to try one of these with EQOA and FFXI
PC games are driven by one segment that consoles have yet to make a dent in, which is MMOGs. As long as you need a PC to play WoW and games like it, PCs are going absolutely nowhere for the foreseeable future.
Until we see WoW and other games like it on consoles, AND playing on the same servers, you simply don't have to worry about PCs disappearing.
While I agree that MMORPG's are keeping the PC as a platform alive, you do realize that it might not be forever. That statement of yours is rather similar to other statements made by PC gamers in the past trumpeting how PC gaming would never die or that the PC platform was better:
1. "You'll never play an action packed blood soaked slugathon DOOM on a kiddie console, Nintendo/Sega would never allow such an Xtreme/Adult game" Saw that in a PC gaming magazine once.......we all know what happened.
2. "Okay, you've got DOOM, but you'll never have network play on a kiddie console, that's where REAL MEN play." Cue the Saturn Netlink, and the modems/ethernet adapters for the Dreamcast/PS2/Gamecube/Xbox, etc etc.
3. "I don't play it, but my Imaginary Girlfriend/Wife plays the Sims, you don't have that."
3. "OKay you've got networked shooters now, but you'll never play MMORPG's like Everquest or Ultima"
4. "Okay so I forgot the PS2 has USB ports and you have MMORPG's now, and The Sims, and that PS2 port of Half-Life looks pretty nice. but you don't have WoW. Until you have that we'll keep on bashing you. You don't have Bethesda or Bioware games wither."
5. "Goddamn it, quit proving me wrong when I say you'll never have something, Bethesda and bioware now."
So in other words, it's only a matter of time. Sooner or later Blizzard will realize "Hey, we started as a console centric dev house, lets start doing console games again."
And here I thought that PC gamers were the ones always saying gameplay was more important than graphics.
What you realize is that we've reached the point of diminishing returns, and simply put, consoles are "good enough" for most people. Sure, Skyrim or whatever might look some nicer on the PC, but it' won't be like the old days of comparing some 1990 PC game and a NES game.when there was a bigger difference in quality and capability. And then if you were tell them the price of that high end gaming rig, most people don't want to pay the premium for a slightly better picture when the actual game is exactly the same. And when you're immersed in it, you won't really care.
PSO is not an MMORPG, but more akin to a Diablo clone, and in fact you can play the game offline as well. So yes, EQOA is both the first, and oldest console MMORPG.
Now for first online action-rpg for console, that's where PSO takes the medal.
I know, I'm responding because I got the e-mail from SOE yesterday. As an aside, since EQOA predates PSN, payment and accounts are handled by SOE's PC gaming division. It's the only PS2 game that does that.
It's also the oldest console MMORPG, pre-dating FFXI. They made the last month free, I suppose I could login again...I quit a looong time ago, because I didn't really have the time to devote to a game with a monthly fee. I got kicked out of a guild or two in 03 or 04 because I didn't play enough. I switched to FFXI but that's an even WORSE grindfest full of overly conformist "there is only one way to play a class" Japanese min-maxers. EQOA was more fun.
Wish I had a capture card to take pictures and video of it. It's a seamless world, no "zoning" while there are border lines between zones, there's no loading between them. You will NEVER see a load screen in EQOA after the game starts unless you:
1. Die, and get TP'd to your last bind point. 2. Or teleport/coach
I've only tried a trial of WoW but that very much reminded me of EQOA (being an MMORPG for the masses), even the graphical style of it.
Sure seems like most slashdotters were affluent kids of engineers living in the suburbs in the 80's sometimes when they start talking about how their dad had a VT100 or they had their own Atari or C64 and modem to call compuserve. Must have been nice.
In my area, anything more than say 5 miles away was long distance, worse was dialing out of area code. IIRC the first closest Compuserve/Source number was in Springfield or Peoria, then they finally got ones in Bloomington and Kankakee. By the time they (AOL only by then) got numbers that were actually local, there were already at least 2 local ISP's, with numbers in EVERY community in the county. One of them shutdown when the company (a printing/graphics company, actually, ISP was just a side business) did. The other eventually was bought by another larger company which was then bought by Earthlink. Round about then, the local cable company began offereing highspeed.
Say I'm working on a computer program and I want to send copies to my beta testers. I'd upload a copy to mediafire and give only my beta testers the URL.
Dropbox?
Or say I shot a video and I want to share it with family members, but I don't want to post it publicly on YouTube because the video might contain some copyrighted music that happened to be playing where I shot it.
It's not really a problem for incidental music if you're non-monetizing your videos. Youtube will just put links to the music on your video page. Now if you were one of those people basically uploading songs with a static image of the album art, that's another story.
Part of the problem keeping freeware games developed by hobbyists at roughly the complexity of calculator games or 1985 NES games is what I've been calling the "complexity wall". Games need more art than other kinds of software, and there aren't as many ready-made art libraries available to hobbyists as, say, code libraries. It's the rare developer who has skills in both coding and art or the ability to work together on a fairly complex project.
Which is why I've told you, several times, i fyou want to do console games, work for an already established company with the license to do so. It'll help build your portfolio as well.
If memory serves me correctly, Memory Stick was designed and released before SD was released, when MMS was still around. Sony created MagicGate on the Memory Sticks with downloadable Media in mind...but then the MMS consortium came up with SD
Check your IP address. Pretty mundane. I'll wait. Still waiting. You totally want to open up cmd and type ipconfig, but you're googling the name of the GUI version (if there is one).
Wouldn't one right click the networking icon in the systray and select "status" or "information" or something like that?
Oh god how I hate PS2 DRE's, which are worse if you own a couple of things:
1. The PS2 Linux kit's RTE disc, the only NTSC-UC disc manufactured in Japan. It's slightly wonky as a result and is one easy way to detect if your PS2's DVD drive is going bad.
2. EQOA. Constantly streaming data from the DVD, it's why there's zero loading times between zones. That's right PC EQ players, you can walk/swim from Fayspires to Qeynos, and not see a single load screen. But it is extremely hard on the PS3's DVD drive.
I do have one functional PS2, a 50001 model, those are the ones that are built like tanks, I keep it, just in case.
So it's not going to be your work computer unless you want to do your taxes on your big screen tv.
I actually have done my taxes on a PS2 and PS3, admittedly with Firefox under Linux, the PS3's Netfront would probably choke on most Federal web based tax filing pages.
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Besides games through WINE there's also some native Linux applications like Second LIfe, which really likes a nice GPU. The only reason I have a cheap ass GT220 in this thing to upgrade the integrated 6150SE is SL.
If you think this generation has stuck around too long, what must you think of the PS2, that thing is STILL selling. You can buy new ones and new PS2 games in the stores...STILL, after 12 years.
The NES version of Monopoly was better than any version on newer systems
What the hell is up with that, I was thinking that myself a couple of weeks ago.
an RPG published by Square-Enix will also be a decent game
What, you never played the crapfest that was Saga Frontier? I want to KILL whoever designed that damn font in it. (That guy who did that game ALWAYS messes things up) Or the disappointment that was Chrono Cross. Or the missed potential of FFXI, doomed by excessively conformist japanese min-maxers.
Why not pick up a cheap small HD set for the "den", or if your computer monitor has HDMI, hook the console up to that.
Most certainly the Cell Architecture was and probably the supporting memory stuff (crazy ass bandwidth) and the R5900 in the PS2 before it. (no consumer PC had a crazy 128-bit CPU with crazy ass bandwidth in 2000).
I would also lay odds that he PS3 is STILL better than the budget boxes in many people's homes (many are still single core with GPU's nowhere near the capability of the Nvidia chip in the PS3) Personally, this machine is a budget box with a dual core 2.4GHz CPU and by default an integrated Nvidia 6150SE. As a gaming box, the PS3 stomps it silly. Heck, Unlike many I had Linux on that PS3 and could actually compare performance in other ways. I can say that the PS3 was better with the GIMP, as long as the images weren't too big. It would scale images...faster, though the PS2 was also impressive in that regard the most computationally "hardest" scaling method was the fastest on the PS2. (probably the PS3's Altivec unit and the mipsel math optimizations on the PS2 made a difference)
Seeing Aeris die wasn't fun because her "heal the entire party every few turns" limit breaks made her damn useful while she lasted.
Healing Wind, useful until you get a Restore+All combo on everyone. But her best Limit break is actually Fury Brand, set it off and the other two characters Limit Breaks get filled up, very hand in learning each characters second Limit Break of each level. (Learned by using the first Limit a certain number of times)
Oh, they might know, but odds are they think of a PC as "something that sits on a desk and is used for desktop-y things" Especially since many PC's in homes are older machines basically used for facebook/web browsing or budget boxes that might not even be able to keep up with a PS2 let alone a PS3 or 360.
but it's interesting that every major company that's making living room entertainment devices are really going out of their way to avoid using a keyboard and mouse. They must have some research backing up their decision.
I don't know about that, PS2's/PS3's/Wii's/Xboxes all have USB ports for a reason. IMHO Sony is the most keyboard friendly, having games that support them. In fact any game that uses the PS3's standard OSK widget also sutomatically supports keyboard input to that widget. Nice for naming items in Oblivion/Skyrim.
I had a separate keyboard and mouse attached to my PS2 for those games that used them, but always wanted to try one of these with EQOA and FFXI
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-NetPlay-Controller-Sony-Playstation-2/dp/B00006SKJ4
And of course both the 360 and PS3 have "chatpads" that hook up their respective controllers.
PC games are driven by one segment that consoles have yet to make a dent in, which is MMOGs. As long as you need a PC to play WoW and games like it, PCs are going absolutely nowhere for the foreseeable future.
Until we see WoW and other games like it on consoles, AND playing on the same servers, you simply don't have to worry about PCs disappearing.
While I agree that MMORPG's are keeping the PC as a platform alive, you do realize that it might not be forever. That statement of yours is rather similar to other statements made by PC gamers in the past trumpeting how PC gaming would never die or that the PC platform was better:
1. "You'll never play an action packed blood soaked slugathon DOOM on a kiddie console, Nintendo/Sega would never allow such an Xtreme/Adult game" Saw that in a PC gaming magazine once.......we all know what happened.
2. "Okay, you've got DOOM, but you'll never have network play on a kiddie console, that's where REAL MEN play." Cue the Saturn Netlink, and the modems/ethernet adapters for the Dreamcast/PS2/Gamecube/Xbox, etc etc.
3. "I don't play it, but my Imaginary Girlfriend/Wife plays the Sims, you don't have that."
3. "OKay you've got networked shooters now, but you'll never play MMORPG's like Everquest or Ultima"
4. "Okay so I forgot the PS2 has USB ports and you have MMORPG's now, and The Sims, and that PS2 port of Half-Life looks pretty nice. but you don't have WoW. Until you have that we'll keep on bashing you. You don't have Bethesda or Bioware games wither."
5. "Goddamn it, quit proving me wrong when I say you'll never have something, Bethesda and bioware now."
So in other words, it's only a matter of time. Sooner or later Blizzard will realize "Hey, we started as a console centric dev house, lets start doing console games again."
And here I thought that PC gamers were the ones always saying gameplay was more important than graphics.
What you realize is that we've reached the point of diminishing returns, and simply put, consoles are "good enough" for most people. Sure, Skyrim or whatever might look some nicer on the PC, but it' won't be like the old days of comparing some 1990 PC game and a NES game.when there was a bigger difference in quality and capability. And then if you were tell them the price of that high end gaming rig, most people don't want to pay the premium for a slightly better picture when the actual game is exactly the same. And when you're immersed in it, you won't really care.
PSO is not an MMORPG, but more akin to a Diablo clone, and in fact you can play the game offline as well. So yes, EQOA is both the first, and oldest console MMORPG.
Now for first online action-rpg for console, that's where PSO takes the medal.
PSO is not an MMORPG, but more akin to a Diablo clone, and in fact you can play the game offline as well.
I know, I'm responding because I got the e-mail from SOE yesterday. As an aside, since EQOA predates PSN, payment and accounts are handled by SOE's PC gaming division. It's the only PS2 game that does that.
It's also the oldest console MMORPG, pre-dating FFXI. They made the last month free, I suppose I could login again...I quit a looong time ago, because I didn't really have the time to devote to a game with a monthly fee. I got kicked out of a guild or two in 03 or 04 because I didn't play enough. I switched to FFXI but that's an even WORSE grindfest full of overly conformist "there is only one way to play a class" Japanese min-maxers. EQOA was more fun.
Wish I had a capture card to take pictures and video of it. It's a seamless world, no "zoning" while there are border lines between zones, there's no loading between them. You will NEVER see a load screen in EQOA after the game starts unless you:
1. Die, and get TP'd to your last bind point.
2. Or teleport/coach
I've only tried a trial of WoW but that very much reminded me of EQOA (being an MMORPG for the masses), even the graphical style of it.
Sure seems like most slashdotters were affluent kids of engineers living in the suburbs in the 80's sometimes when they start talking about how their dad had a VT100 or they had their own Atari or C64 and modem to call compuserve. Must have been nice.
In my area, anything more than say 5 miles away was long distance, worse was dialing out of area code. IIRC the first closest Compuserve/Source number was in Springfield or Peoria, then they finally got ones in Bloomington and Kankakee. By the time they (AOL only by then) got numbers that were actually local, there were already at least 2 local ISP's, with numbers in EVERY community in the county. One of them shutdown when the company (a printing/graphics company, actually, ISP was just a side business) did. The other eventually was bought by another larger company which was then bought by Earthlink. Round about then, the local cable company began offereing highspeed.
Say I'm working on a computer program and I want to send copies to my beta testers. I'd upload a copy to mediafire and give only my beta testers the URL.
Dropbox?
Or say I shot a video and I want to share it with family members, but I don't want to post it publicly on YouTube because the video might contain some copyrighted music that happened to be playing where I shot it.
It's not really a problem for incidental music if you're non-monetizing your videos. Youtube will just put links to the music on your video page. Now if you were one of those people basically uploading songs with a static image of the album art, that's another story.
Part of the problem keeping freeware games developed by hobbyists at roughly the complexity of calculator games or 1985 NES games is what I've been calling the "complexity wall". Games need more art than other kinds of software, and there aren't as many ready-made art libraries available to hobbyists as, say, code libraries. It's the rare developer who has skills in both coding and art or the ability to work together on a fairly complex project.
Which is why I've told you, several times, i fyou want to do console games, work for an already established company with the license to do so. It'll help build your portfolio as well.
What, you don't like JRPG's?
Since there's signed homebrew these days, you actually don't have to "crack" the PSP to play SNES games on it.
If memory serves me correctly, Memory Stick was designed and released before SD was released, when MMS was still around. Sony created MagicGate on the Memory Sticks with downloadable Media in mind...but then the MMS consortium came up with SD
Couldn't you find it in Unity's application listings? Or perhaps start it with an Alt+F2 run dialog?
While that command will work for some file types, it won't for others. Probably depends on distro.
Check your IP address. Pretty mundane. I'll wait. Still waiting. You totally want to open up cmd and type ipconfig, but you're googling the name of the GUI version (if there is one).
Wouldn't one right click the networking icon in the systray and select "status" or "information" or something like that?
Oh god how I hate PS2 DRE's, which are worse if you own a couple of things:
1. The PS2 Linux kit's RTE disc, the only NTSC-UC disc manufactured in Japan. It's slightly wonky as a result and is one easy way to detect if your PS2's DVD drive is going bad.
2. EQOA. Constantly streaming data from the DVD, it's why there's zero loading times between zones. That's right PC EQ players, you can walk/swim from Fayspires to Qeynos, and not see a single load screen. But it is extremely hard on the PS3's DVD drive.
I do have one functional PS2, a 50001 model, those are the ones that are built like tanks, I keep it, just in case.
So it's not going to be your work computer unless you want to do your taxes on your big screen tv.
I actually have done my taxes on a PS2 and PS3, admittedly with Firefox under Linux, the PS3's Netfront would probably choke on most Federal web based tax filing pages.
Can't you also play multi between your PC and PS3? I had heard that Portal 2 supports that.