The psx and the ps2 have outsold the xbox and the 360 by a large margin (in similar time periods) and the ps3 probably will too.
If the 360 even sells half as much as the ps2 does at the end of it's life i'll be goddamn surprised.
One of their long-time dreams has been to build a new kind of personal computer and control the living room. I don't think this combination is simply a coincidence.
That games will be played on and the GAME DEVELOPERS concentrate on their forte, games. Sony's hardware division is pushing blu-ray onto the ps3 along with alot of other cool stuff to make the console more then a console. But what is so wrong with that?
You're going to get a massively powerful piece of hardware (cell processor, 512 megs of ram, hd-addon, and a hdtv encoder, linux).
It can't be compared with blu-ray which will have actual standalone players (umd's could only be played on the psp not standalone portable movie players) made by companies other ten sony.
The xbox hasn't been on shelves for six months in "certain" areas. Here in ohio in our sam's clubs we are selling very few xboxes. Theres tons rotting on shelves in japan as well.
There are places where the xbox isn't even on shelves but it's more of a distribution and not a lack of supply issue.
People do have $1200-$1000 dollar setups (crossfired and or sli'd $500-$600 dollar cards). There were at some points graphics cards available for $700.
But pricing and consideration is still pretty damn stable for the last 4-5 years.
$600-whatever: Ridiculous scale of rare ultra high end superclocked and or sli'd stuff. $300-$500: high end (7900gt-7900gtx, replacing 6800ultra, and 5900ultra). $150-$200: midrange (7600gt, replacement for 6600gt, and...well nvidia 5k series was mostly trash). $70-$120:low end for a gamer (7300gs, replacement for 6200).
When speaking strictly from a console point of view I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had the upperhand in the home console department. WHen you think about the last three years that 1.252 billion includes the money pissed away on the psp as you mentinoed. But 9/10 times the games nintendo has on the top charts in japan are portable titles. I wouln't be surprised if it was the same here in North America.
When you take out the portables i'm sure the numbers will get a lot closer.
But your right from a business standpoint. Nintendo tries to go for the most conservative/cheap route for hardware and still make it up with low cost development games.
Sony on the otherhand is almost always try's to fulfill some crazy grand vision. It's the only way you can justify the 400 million they spent just on R&D for the cell chip. That's not something you'd expect from either Nintendo or MS who would just buy the best (or maybe few grades down ala Nintendo) processor they can put in their console.
Although, Sony's hardware looks like a huge clusterfuck (ps3) it's only slightly more riskier. The EE in the ps2 cost the same to fab (the die size is almost identical) at launch time as the cell and was also quite radical and different from the psx and all other processors around at the time. The dvd was still fairly new 5-6 years ago and high end players cost several hundred dollars. They still pulled it off...
I'm pretty confident they'll pull it off this time too. I hope they don't go crazier in 5-6 years. Every generation they took a bigger and more ambitious risk, if they keep up with this pattern they'd have to spend a crazy amount on the ps4 hardware development and launch.
I will be honest I'm not familiar with Hatsumi but a master in many martial arts (especially swordplay) can only train students at the highest level by going all out. That means with the intention of striking a fatal blow, it's up to the students to prevent that fatal cut/blow as in a real life situation.
I didn't think there were any school's left that actually did this. It's out of place anyway, this isn't feudal japan.
Another PC Dev making a FPS port/full game. While getting valve is great it doesn't really address what the system lacks, i'm not sure why there's so much press coverage.
MS lost about 1 billion PER year (well they were 100 million or so shy) on the xbox (it may have whittled down a bit in the end) and the xbox360 sales aren't doing any better and actually much much worse in japan.
I'd say they pretty much failed after pissing away the billions.
On the other hand the ps2 has been enormously profitable. Sony always has a massive startup cost for their consoles as they are a hardware company and spend a ton at the very beginning on research and in building factories.
Everything thusfar about the revolution has generated a ton of publicity. To the new controller to the new name. The dealbreaker will be how the games turn out.
So these machines might not be affordable for rural families, but what if an organization funds 1-4 of these per village. Much better then not having any computing.
It seemed like Cloud wasn't too concerned with Romance or really showed signs of loving anyone too much until Aeris arrived. Especially the younger cloud...Earlier on it seemed like Tifa had a crush on him then the other way around.
He was considered the father of FF and at least produced/directed up to FF7-8. He's now going to be rotting in Mistwalker Studios... guh... no matter how awesome his Eastern RPG might be I doubt it would sell well in Japan for the xbox360.
The only real comparison that you have up there is VHS vs. Betamax. Those two operated and were supported by totally different groups and had a different price range. You can't attribute the name as the winning quality.
The rest aren't even CLOSE to being a battle of any form.
CD's versus Minidisk? Both were created by and championed by sony. The MD units were designed to be mroe high end and expensive (plus it was recordable before cd burners became popular). Add this to the fact that there is a huge time gap. CD's were out quite a while before.
Laserdisc vs. DVD, once again the laserdisc is pretty old tech compared to dvd and there was no war between them. It was large, expensive, and not marketed to the masses. It was popular in it's niche and during it's life it's only competition was vhs. DVD's were more of a replacement tech for laserdisc.
Lil 20-30 min animated episode showing a earlier part with Zack that came with the Japanese DVD release was much more enjoyable to me. I wish they continued that instead.
Most of the motherboards i've looked at support both pata and sata drives.
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Can't result in success... Most large consumer oem products from the likes of HP/Compaq, Sony, and even Dell now ship with mediocre video hardware and enough cheap and adware ridden software to make anyone cringe.
Combine that with the fact that most viiv machines look and operate like regular desktops with a tuner built in with some pvr like functions. None I've seen in retail stores look like they'll operate well solely in the living room without a regular monitor.
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The psx and the ps2 have outsold the xbox and the 360 by a large margin (in similar time periods) and the ps3 probably will too. If the 360 even sells half as much as the ps2 does at the end of it's life i'll be goddamn surprised.
What the hell is that supposed to mean? The summary could have at least mentioned the codec used or the bit rate.
One of their long-time dreams has been to build a new kind of personal computer and control the living room. I don't think this combination is simply a coincidence.
That games will be played on and the GAME DEVELOPERS concentrate on their forte, games. Sony's hardware division is pushing blu-ray onto the ps3 along with alot of other cool stuff to make the console more then a console. But what is so wrong with that?
You're going to get a massively powerful piece of hardware (cell processor, 512 megs of ram, hd-addon, and a hdtv encoder, linux).
It's modding potential with linux is amazing.
It can't be compared with blu-ray which will have actual standalone players (umd's could only be played on the psp not standalone portable movie players) made by companies other ten sony.
The xbox hasn't been on shelves for six months in "certain" areas. Here in ohio in our sam's clubs we are selling very few xboxes. Theres tons rotting on shelves in japan as well.
There are places where the xbox isn't even on shelves but it's more of a distribution and not a lack of supply issue.
Just like the psone has only recently been taken out of production despite the ps2 coming out 5 years ago.
People do have $1200-$1000 dollar setups (crossfired and or sli'd $500-$600 dollar cards). There were at some points graphics cards available for $700.
But pricing and consideration is still pretty damn stable for the last 4-5 years.
$600-whatever: Ridiculous scale of rare ultra high end superclocked and or sli'd stuff.
$300-$500: high end (7900gt-7900gtx, replacing 6800ultra, and 5900ultra).
$150-$200: midrange (7600gt, replacement for 6600gt, and...well nvidia 5k series was mostly trash).
$70-$120:low end for a gamer (7300gs, replacement for 6200).
When speaking strictly from a console point of view I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had the upperhand in the home console department. WHen you think about the last three years that 1.252 billion includes the money pissed away on the psp as you mentinoed. But 9/10 times the games nintendo has on the top charts in japan are portable titles. I wouln't be surprised if it was the same here in North America.
When you take out the portables i'm sure the numbers will get a lot closer.
But your right from a business standpoint. Nintendo tries to go for the most conservative/cheap route for hardware and still make it up with low cost development games.
Sony on the otherhand is almost always try's to fulfill some crazy grand vision. It's the only way you can justify the 400 million they spent just on R&D for the cell chip. That's not something you'd expect from either Nintendo or MS who would just buy the best (or maybe few grades down ala Nintendo) processor they can put in their console.
Although, Sony's hardware looks like a huge clusterfuck (ps3) it's only slightly more riskier. The EE in the ps2 cost the same to fab (the die size is almost identical) at launch time as the cell and was also quite radical and different from the psx and all other processors around at the time. The dvd was still fairly new 5-6 years ago and high end players cost several hundred dollars. They still pulled it off...
I'm pretty confident they'll pull it off this time too. I hope they don't go crazier in 5-6 years. Every generation they took a bigger and more ambitious risk, if they keep up with this pattern they'd have to spend a crazy amount on the ps4 hardware development and launch.
I will be honest I'm not familiar with Hatsumi but a master in many martial arts (especially swordplay) can only train students at the highest level by going all out. That means with the intention of striking a fatal blow, it's up to the students to prevent that fatal cut/blow as in a real life situation.
I didn't think there were any school's left that actually did this. It's out of place anyway, this isn't feudal japan.
Another PC Dev making a FPS port/full game. While getting valve is great it doesn't really address what the system lacks, i'm not sure why there's so much press coverage.
MS lost about 1 billion PER year (well they were 100 million or so shy) on the xbox (it may have whittled down a bit in the end) and the xbox360 sales aren't doing any better and actually much much worse in japan.
I'd say they pretty much failed after pissing away the billions.
On the other hand the ps2 has been enormously profitable. Sony always has a massive startup cost for their consoles as they are a hardware company and spend a ton at the very beginning on research and in building factories.
Everything thusfar about the revolution has generated a ton of publicity. To the new controller to the new name. The dealbreaker will be how the games turn out.
It's the only way I can justify their explanation:
http://revolution.nintendo.com/
It's like a goofy choice for english wording in the middle of japanese anime, except in the real world.
So these machines might not be affordable for rural families, but what if an organization funds 1-4 of these per village. Much better then not having any computing.
Even if i look at it as a joke, there isn't much to laugh at.
Even if they fail at the 8 layer bd disks, 4 layered blu-ray disks would hold a massive amount of data.
Wow subscriptions are closer to $2 usd there versus $15 here.
It seemed like Cloud wasn't too concerned with Romance or really showed signs of loving anyone too much until Aeris arrived. Especially the younger cloud...Earlier on it seemed like Tifa had a crush on him then the other way around.
He was considered the father of FF and at least produced/directed up to FF7-8. He's now going to be rotting in Mistwalker Studios... guh... no matter how awesome his Eastern RPG might be I doubt it would sell well in Japan for the xbox360.
The only real comparison that you have up there is VHS vs. Betamax. Those two operated and were supported by totally different groups and had a different price range. You can't attribute the name as the winning quality.
The rest aren't even CLOSE to being a battle of any form.
CD's versus Minidisk? Both were created by and championed by sony. The MD units were designed to be mroe high end and expensive (plus it was recordable before cd burners became popular). Add this to the fact that there is a huge time gap. CD's were out quite a while before.
Laserdisc vs. DVD, once again the laserdisc is pretty old tech compared to dvd and there was no war between them. It was large, expensive, and not marketed to the masses. It was popular in it's niche and during it's life it's only competition was vhs. DVD's were more of a replacement tech for laserdisc.
Lil 20-30 min animated episode showing a earlier part with Zack that came with the Japanese DVD release was much more enjoyable to me. I wish they continued that instead.
Most of the motherboards i've looked at support both pata and sata drives.
Can't result in success... Most large consumer oem products from the likes of HP/Compaq, Sony, and even Dell now ship with mediocre video hardware and enough cheap and adware ridden software to make anyone cringe.
Combine that with the fact that most viiv machines look and operate like regular desktops with a tuner built in with some pvr like functions. None I've seen in retail stores look like they'll operate well solely in the living room without a regular monitor.
Has flash memory become cheap enough for 8-10gb nano's to be out with a nice profit margin?