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8 & 10 GB iPod Nanos Rumored
koweja writes "The UK based technology magazine T3 is predicting that Apple will release larger iPod Nanos in the near future. From the article, "Munster's reasoning is that, as the touchscreen iPod will likely not now appear until next year, Apple needs to launch something eye-catching in time for the lucrative run-up to Christmas - and bigger capacity nanos fit the bill nicely." Granted it's an almost completely unsubstantiated prediction from somebody outside of Apple, but it is what a lot of people have been asking for since the original Nanos came out."
I rumored a 16GB iNewton is in the works. Does that make me any more credible!?
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I thought everything was meant to be getting smaller, or did they mean the storage capacity?
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Gosh... here's some more... Apple will eventually release a 16 gig ipod Nano! You heard it here first.
Anyway, a 10 gig Nano makes no sense. 8? Sure, but 10? No. It can't be a single chip, and the size difference between it and an 8 gig isn't enough to justify the price difference for most people.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and predict that Apple will never increase the capacity of the Nano. Why would they do something as stupid as that?
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Nanos were made to have smaller capacity because Apple weren't selling a good balance of Minis and normal iPods, if they increase the storage capacity it gives people less incentive to buy a more expensive regular iPod.
And does this really qualify as news?
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Why really needs a size like this? I have a MDplayer and 1GB on my PDA and survive easily (even got a movie on the pda, but not found a long enough tube trip to watch it all yet). Cynical people like me might think that it could be a gimmick where they can reduce supplies of the smaller memory sized nanos, and sell the bigger (oh look more expensive!) nanos... surely they have a bigger margin on those too ?
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A rack of CD's?
A 200GB HD if pirated music?
iPod Shuffle?
iPod Video/Nano?
I guess I ask a dumb question. Maybe it's when I see 20+ people on Public transit with iPods in their hand do I wonder about where people have their focus.
As for the article and pridiction, well duhh. The future will bring more memory to our pockets. I predict less than 150 replies for this topic. [J]
iPod Nano has its small size (smaller than the mini), and regular iPods are moving into the video arena, so they again have a need for larger capacity (and screen size).
...when I say that the Mini was the best combination of size, price, storage, etc. Bring that back first.
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Given that Apple is rather sue happy, will T3 be sued too?
I can't say that it will happen, but it would be a decent move on Apples part. They don't make much margin on the main device (weather large or small) the money is in the periphels. So more units out there would increase the likleyhood of the $ making extras.
PLUS it could save face for the touchscreen miss.
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Do 8 & 10 gig flash media drives even exist at this time (or in the near future)?
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10GB? Lame, that's barely enough for my Frank Zappa MP3s.
And what about wireless?
There are 8 gig CF drives, and I think 8 gig SD drives will be out soon. They are still rather expensive, though.
You can get a 4GB USB thumb drive for $100 (or get four 512MB and one 2GB bundled together for $108). The current crop of MicroDrives (CompactFlash-compatible miniature hard drives) of similar capacity runs even less.
If a normal consumer can buy these things on the retail market today, Apple really needs to get its act together and start increasing capacity on its lower end or it is going to lose that market to these cheap drives and the simple add-ons that allow playback of music.
My music collection is nowadays around 7 GB. But that includes of course music I hardly ever listen to. And even if I would want to even on an iPod it is not that convenient to search for specific songs in a heap of several thousands.
I don't think that there are a lot of people around who could fill 10 GB with legal music. What would they put on a 10 GB iPod Nano? For the normal iPod we have a solution: Movies.
But for the iPod Nano? Flip-books?
People will probably buy those Nanos just to be cool and be able to say "my iPod Nano is larger than yours".
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Great, a 10GB would let you have 2,500 songs (according to apple's rating), this is great business for apple. Now instead of just getting 1,000 dollars from people to fill it, they can bump it up to 2,500 dollars! Brilliant!
Naturally as larger (smaller) hard drives become cheaper they will come up with ipods with more space, this isnt a rumor that they will be doing it, maybe a rumor that it will be happening soon.
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...but no thicker than it is now. I have 35 gigs out of my 40 used right now with only 6000 songs. Granted some of my library is in 192 mp3 and 256 mp3. But thats the next iPod I will buy.
Yes, well one factor is the storage capacity, but let's not forget the size. At least for me, the smaller form factor of the Nano makes it much more attractive than the normal iPod and I don't think that I'm alone. These are really two distinct product lines with usually quite distinct user bases.
There's a difference between rumor and speculation, and this is more speculation than rumor.
As the minis were phased out, they had a capacity of 6 gig. I have been expecting the nano to increase to 8 gig for a while. Of course the nano still has a short battery life, and perhpas the added memeory is just going to make that worse.
The 4GB are available, and given Apple discounts are not overly expensive. I do not see a 10 gig nano, as the nanos seem to have pairs of cards. Hopefully they will come out with a 8 gig Nano in the $250 price range, and drop the other prices according. That might be enough space to make it worthwhile. I would also like to see a 2gig shuffle, though that product line also seems to be dead.
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I don't see the point. If you're gonna dock to your computer, then you only need memory for one battery charge, and 2G is plenty. If you're going to use a charger while traveling, 10G strikes me as too small for a regular music collection.
I bought the 4G but discovered through use that I could have saved my money and lived just fine with the 1G or 2G model.
Instead of increasing the storage capacity why not increase the sound quality. Those preset EQ's do nothing but ruin the music. How about a 10 band EQ and a superior op amp. Mabey if you listen with those crappy ear buds you won't hear anything, but get a set or respectable headphones and music gets hard to listen to, with piercing highs and muddy mid bass and lack of any good deep bass.
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"Apple needs to allow Microsoft to run Windows on the iPod. I don't believe it either but I love to screw with your head".
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Hackaday.com recently had an article about converting a 4 GB iPod nano to an 8 GB. Apparently apple only uses 1 flash chip in the Nano to make up the entire 4 GBs, but in fact it has a second spot on the board to attach a second 4 GB flash chip. It wouold be pretty cool to have an 8 GB iPod Nano though. http://ipod.hackaday.com/entry/1234000233073484/
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And they will release a new ipod smaller than nano named iPod Pico.
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640k should be enough for anybody.
You can make your own 200GB nano already. What's the point in waiting for Apple to increase the size (and price) to a measly 10GB?
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You have to remember that the so-called 6 gb mini doesn't really hold 6 gb, it's slightly smaller (it reports 5.6 gb on the About screen). So with a decent amount of songs plus a regular collection of the four podcasts I regularly subscribe to, I easily fill my Mini. I don't see that I could put the same amount on a Nano, so I haven't bought a Nano. I'd be much more inclined to consider an 8-gig Nano, and could really care less about a touch-screen model.
So can we now expect prices on the smaller ones to finally fall to reasonable levels? That's all that's prevented me from buying one, actually.
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I don't think that there are a lot of people around who could fill 10 GB with legal music.
10 gigabytes * 1000000 kilobytes per gigabyte * 8 bits per byte / 160 kilobits per second / 3000 seconds per CD = 166 CDs. I know a lot of people who own two or three times that many. Given that CDs have been around for over two decades, 8 CDs a year is not that many.
But for the iPod Nano? Flip-books?
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Has flash memory become cheap enough for 8-10gb nano's to be out with a nice profit margin?
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Apple has never competed on price. The basic iPod is still the most expensive MP3 player by about 30%. And for the cost of a 4GB nano, you can get a 20GB HDD based MP3 player. Heck, you can get a 20 GB Archos Jukebox for 100 dollars if you look.
Where Apple shines is form factor. That Archos Jukebox can be amazingly cheap, but it won't fit in your pocket. The iRiver is a powerful, fully featured player, but just try to get it to do anything without taking a course at your technical school. Even the regular iPod is big by many people's standards, leading to the popularity of the Mini and Nano.
And if you haven't held it in your hands, the Nano is damned small. This thing could fit in a wallet. It can fit in the tiny key pocket on most jeans. You don't have to decide between taking your iPod or your PDA (or your iPod or your Compact, etc). Just take 'em both. They'll both fit.
Besides, if you're comparing USB drives, why not compare to the Shuffle? 100 dollars for 1GB of storage, which includes the battery and playback interface out of the box. Not an amazingly low cost solution, but not bad compared to the rest of the stuff in that space.
An MP3 player is more than just flash memory, you know.
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10 GB hard drives are so 2001.
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And if they go to intel that will give people less incentive to buy their PPC stock. I know this isn't 100% the same, but it does say a little about the comapny.
While I don't believe that Apple will totally disregard the costs of their actions, I do think that they will move in the right direction, even if they do bare a slight cost. Besides, they are competing against other players (kinda), so they do have a little incentive to kill off the older stuff while introducing new products. What generation iPod is currently the most modern, and what is to stop Apple from upping the storage on those? I know that eventually, even music buffs that are audiophiles will be satisfied with the storage capacity of a music player. Then isn't the most obvious direction to make stuff smaller? Why not get a head start?
I'm not saying that Apple is a technocracy, but they don't seem to put money before everything.
As a conspiracy theorist side note, how long a cycle do you think most customers will wait before upgrading (due to better new products and defective old ones)? Will it happen at roughly the same time? Something tells me that information will be quite valueable to all companies in that space (marketing pushes). Maybe Apple is just making an iPod killer to induce it, because to a certain degree they are in competition with past successes.
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10 GB hard drives might be 2001, but 10 GB NAND chips are ultramodern. Remember, the nano doesn't use a hard drive.
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although it looks cool and easy to use, the battery nightmare was enough for me to ditch it. Not to mention you cant pull the mp3s back off it, or use it with anything but itunes-shamola.
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I know the screen it's small but believe me, it has enough resolution to play videos. I have a Rockbox on my nano and Doom really looks great, even better that the GBA version. Also the included 3d screensavers like "plasma" and "fire" are neat.
I wish Apple includes video support in an upcoming software upgrade.
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Uh, what year was it that huge frikkin' pockets were in vogue? Nineteen-oh-never?
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
Apple already use a single 4gb samsung part(K9NBG08U5M) in the 4gb nano and can easily make the nano hold 8gig using two of the 4gb parts and theres even a site out there has details on how to do this upgrade yourself using the old flash from a broken 4g nano. they can simply continue they agreement with samsung and install these chips at no real extra cost to themselves.
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however the 10gb option is where journalists needed to do just a little research and realise that samsung do not have a larger flash part available and that 10gb is a very odd number to pluck out of the air when referring to flash memory that doubles with every generation. the only plausible way is that you could squeeze 2 x 4gb and 1 x 2gb into the nano but this seems far fetched as it would require apple to build new circuit boards plus i dont think there is the physical space.
if, scratch that, when apple release the 8gb nano i will certainly be thinking hard about buying it cos its almost a sweet spot for an on the go music collection. i realise ppl say of youve got 60gig of music but seriously do you listen to that ALL that music all the time. from what i seen of peoples music collections there is a core selection of music ppl love surrounded by other music they may listen to from time to time. if they are on the move they want the stuff they love with them but are not fussed if the likable music goes too.
thats just my £0.02
Considering that Intel and Micron have collaborated to create a company called "IM Flash Technologies" to produce flash memory and that Apple has already pre-purchased a substantial portion of the output, I don't see this as much of a surprise. See here and here.
What I want to know is, if Apple can make such high capacity little devices, why can't USB Thumb-drive manufacturers? I've never seen one over 2 gigs, and that one wasn't really a Thumb-drive. It was a little cheese wheel-looking thing with a retractable cord. Granted, I live in the middle of nowheresville so can someone prove me wrong here, or are they keeping something from us?
What I'm asking is, is there a USB drive with a capacity over 2 gigs that I can fit in my pocket, without it pulling my pants down?
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This rumor is even less substantiated than those most of those posted by dedicated Apple or tech rumor sites. In other words, it doesn't belong here.
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Filling ten gigabytes with legal iTunes downloads: yeah, few enough people will do that.
But filling ten gigabytes by going to the CD collection you've accumulated over the last twenty years and systematically ripping the whole lot? That's easily done, especially if you rip at a decent bitrate.
Not only that, there are plenty of people with a hell of a lot of illegal music. That's still no reason why Apple wouldn't want to sell them giant-capacity iPods. Sure, they won't become iTunes customers, but they still make their money on the iPod, right?
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Enjoying the distraction from 8GB Ipod Nanos, Apple will start shipping their computers (remember those?) with Windows Vista Looks Like OSX Version.
Well, I would require the following features in any Audio player I would buy: 1-NO DRM WHATSOEVER. 2 The ability to play MP3, OGG, and other format files (need not play WMA files). 3 It has to use USB Flash drives as memory, which gives the capability to transfer files between devices.(Sandisk Cruzer MP3 Companion type device) 4-Be powered by 1 or 2 AAA NI-MH batteries. 5-Be capable of listening to FM radio AND NOAA broadcasts. 6-Obviously this device cannot be as small as some players, but that makes it harder to lose! 7-Not be vastly overpriced like the iPods all are! (for what you get) 8-NOT be a (CR)Apple or Macintrash product (see #7) So far I have not found an audio player that fits these requirements...if anyone know of one please post here how to get one!
Not to nit pick, but...
;-) I'd like to point out that if your already 34, your life expectancy is going to be quite a bit less than 80 years, even if you are in in above average physical condition (though having good genes is obviously going to make a huge difference).
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.au, the life expectancy was not 80+ years but just over 77 and half years. To do a very dodgy back-of-a-fag packet calculation based on that same rate of decline (purely because that's as far back as that graph goes), if you were born 34 years ago (in 1972) that takes 13.8 years of your life expectancy, bringing it down to just over 66 years!
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I point this out as a lot of people take the current life expectancy figures for where ever they live to mean they can expect to live that long, when in fact that figure is only for those born this year (and already assumes things like health care treatments will continue to develop and improve in their life time, at the rate they are now). The life expectancy for someone already in their mid thirties in
As you can see from figures taken from the CIA world fact book for babies born just 6 years ago in
As I say, that's a very rough calculation and quite a bit under what ever the real value is (and would think that the average for someone of your (or my) age is probably closer to 70-75), but I'd hate to think there are people keeling over in their 60's and 70's thinking "Hey wait, I'm supposed to have another 10-15 years to go here!" due to a misunderstanding about the way 'life expectancy' statistics are calculated.
If there is any stuff you wanted to do in your final years, you might want to try and squeeze it in before you hit 65, just to be on the safe side.
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instead of more memory, how about longer battery lifetime? even with my 2GB ipod, i already ran out of battery before running out of songs. (i do pick songs by hand regularly and that makes the LCD on frequently.)
I got a $50 mp3 player that supports SD slot.
Now if its smart to do >1gig I dont know, but if they can make SD cards with 2gig + , why
not add that to the ipod too.
Lots of phones now support SD slots and can play mp3 too.
Maybe apple should team up with LG to make a iPodPhone
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Just to clarify. Not that I don't think that the upgrade costs haven't been a little ridiculous, they have been...
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Size is a big selling feature. They would of put out an 8 gig back when the nano launch, except flash was too expensive. Flash memory is probably half the price that it was last september, so it only makes sense to use more of it. 8gb of flash from retail is only like $180. I'm sure they can buy the raw chips for cheaper (~120). I bet they just move around prices. 2gb $150 4gb $200 8gb $250
I love my nano, and I have absolutely no urge for a touch screen. I mean, really! What am I going to do with it that I can't already do with the nano I have?
Give me more capacity in the same beautiful form factor. That's something I can use.
It will, pretty much. It's not about formatting, nor about housekeeping. (Large files like MP3s will have very tiny overhead.) No, the issue is whether you're counting in 1000s or 1024s. Your point should really be that
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...for the iPod Macro. Fits in the back of any tractor-trailer rig, comes preloaded with every song ever recorded and plays for 12 hours on a gallon of diesel fuel.
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