You guys sound like a preacher on a downtown street corner.
No, I sound like a customer. It was you who mentioned Jesus padre. All I stated is look at who tested it and how it was tested. If I write some code with the intent of it passing a specific QC test. It will pass it, no doubt. That does not make it secure and the fact that another product does not pass your QC does not make it insecure. Here is a better test install Firefox on a large group of random machines and IE on a larger group. See if the security problems caused by random browsing are proportional to the install base. We can this test group 'reality'. Care for the benchmarks?
It is interesting, then, to see that Internet Explorer did so well on this
Is it interesting or curious? Who is Michael Zalewski and why is in Larrys blog? Is he an MS programmer doing a whole slew of tests and releasing only good data for MS? The programming world is full of that we just implemented a warehouse system after seeing several great sites running the system and giving rave reviews. After implementing it our support SUCKED and later a competitors rep revealed to us that all their reference sites had warehouses run by former employees. The employees were hired because they could not get good enough support, then because the employees had ownership they gave good reviews. Bah, trust not software people it will byte you in the arse.
that they'll have a public forum open long enough to get their comments debunked on their own site!:-D
I think I saw the Beta site. A lot of members, let me list some:
McBride Dary1234 DarylM MrMcB These people were really pro sco. I hope he er... they don't start ScoDotting our servers:-)
It was like one guy, but he could hit refresh REALLY fast
Woot for Novell, I think. It's interesting that they're only defending *their* open source software
Read it again young padawan;-) They will defend claims against the kernel or other software that AFFECTS their offerings. The kernel is a 'big thing' and it's defense is no 'SMALL' matter.
That is true (about patents and OSS). We as a valid market alternative pushing freedom of choice should definitely demand that others choose as we have.
What if the next law throws you in jail for trading music? Or for selling software that conflicts with someone else's very dubious software patent?
What if? You are citing examples of breaking the law that you currently get away with as a reason not to punish another lawbreaker. What if... you got your music from recognized legitimate sources, what if... you either licensed patented code for use or you correct any found infringements. I can agree with the fact that we bandy jail terms pretty liberally but the people who do it are ELECTED officials. You won't make a change by posting to/.
What I was saying was that Notes itself has APIs and security
I understand that. It is a good point, I just often wonder how many more apps would be shown as vulnerable if people didn't have the 'EZ Access' OS letting them in.
Lotus Notes has never had a security incident where a virus or worm successfully attacked it via Notes native interfaces or e-mail. (There have been some security patches required in the Internet-compatible interfaces.)
Would that be because it runs on a popular OS that has a security model based on Swiss cheese, thus eliminating the need to crack the app? I am actually asking not trolling, I do not know what Notes runs on.
I'll download the crack when it comes out next week, and my soldering iron and I will have an endless supply of cheap entertainment when the machines start showing up at the surplus stores in 2009.br>
Good thinking, you will need something to do in the evenings anyway...since Conan O Brien is taking the tonight show.
Typically posed as a trollish question, this author may or may not have had trolling in mind. I for one would like to know if there are any plans for the T42 Biometric laptops to have Linux run on them.
It sure is handy to have a semi-scandal pop up just in time to gloss past the Prez's piss poor performance on the stage last night.
I do not think highly of george, however I do not think that he is THAT dumb.
"God, I really screwed the pooch last night. I know, I will have the cybersecurity guy resign in frustration that the nation is no better off now than four years ago. That'll help."
Nope, not even W could be that dumb.
Re:Corps will continue to rule, people are sheep..
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No they most certainly will not. Not unless these "amateurs" get the election process changed to a reality TV style format. People just don't care enough about politics and social entrepeneurship. They want to sit at home and drug their brains with TV. That's all they want out of life. House, two SUVs, a jetski, and 2.75 kids.
Stop getting all your facts about the population from the internet, step out of your moms house and look around the big blue room (no not IBMs wiring closet). Politics is fronted by the elected officials they make the decisions we want or they do not. Organized groups can have a HUGE impact on those officials starting with the not so good example of the 'flash mobs' at the RNC. People will learn though what is and is not effective. I am on several political lists and when issues I care about are mentioned I and other like minded souls respond. I have written enough times to my congressman that when I met him at a public library luncheon he recognized my name. He told me that writing a congressman with your views is like casting more than ten votes...why because less than one in 10 people write them (and yes that is write as in on paper). Imagine if in your hometown you organized 20 people to write your congressman on issues. That would carry real power and influence.
Yellowstone National Park is the caldera of a giant volcano
Yellowstone = Caldera = Sco = stolen BSD code = BSD is dying. Transitive property of equality states that Yellowstone is indeed dying (in a giant volcano)...BYE Darl
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You guys sound like a preacher on a downtown street corner.
No, I sound like a customer. It was you who mentioned Jesus padre. All I stated is look at who tested it and how it was tested. If I write some code with the intent of it passing a specific QC test. It will pass it, no doubt. That does not make it secure and the fact that another product does not pass your QC does not make it insecure. Here is a better test install Firefox on a large group of random machines and IE on a larger group. See if the security problems caused by random browsing are proportional to the install base. We can this test group 'reality'. Care for the benchmarks?
It is interesting, then, to see that Internet Explorer did so well on this
Is it interesting or curious? Who is Michael Zalewski and why is in Larrys blog? Is he an MS programmer doing a whole slew of tests and releasing only good data for MS? The programming world is full of that we just implemented a warehouse system after seeing several great sites running the system and giving rave reviews. After implementing it our support SUCKED and later a competitors rep revealed to us that all their reference sites had warehouses run by former employees. The employees were hired because they could not get good enough support, then because the employees had ownership they gave good reviews. Bah, trust not software people it will byte you in the arse.
Anyone got something with more meat?
...Must ....not ....make the obvious comment.
I wrote a program to detect what directories were still writeable as the restricted user, turned out to be quite a few (even including C:\).
Typing a shell command != 'writing a program'
63.161.169.137
Shut up, you!
Your' server is my favorite proxy.
that they'll have a public forum open long enough to get their comments debunked on their own site! :-D
:-)
I think I saw the Beta site. A lot of members, let me list some:
McBride
Dary1234
DarylM
MrMcB
These people were really pro sco. I hope he er... they don't start ScoDotting our servers
It was like one guy, but he could hit refresh REALLY fast
Ahem...
;-) They will defend claims against the kernel or other software that AFFECTS their offerings. The kernel is a 'big thing' and it's defense is no 'SMALL' matter.
Woot for Novell, I think. It's interesting that they're only defending *their* open source software
Read it again young padawan
That is true (about patents and OSS). We as a valid market alternative pushing freedom of choice should definitely demand that others choose as we have.
With an all expenses paid server meltdown. That will teach them to have hundreds of pages of quality documentation on line.
Is there a good HOWTO on cleaning up a Windoze box from spyware and keeping it clean?
1. Select Linux distro
2. Insert cd
yada, yada yada
Spyware will just move offshore. More governmental bullshit.
Great... Now the indians get to write all the software. Legit or not.
kidding
What if the next law throws you in jail for trading music? Or for selling software that conflicts with someone else's very dubious software patent?
/.
What if? You are citing examples of breaking the law that you currently get away with as a reason not to punish another lawbreaker. What if... you got your music from recognized legitimate sources, what if... you either licensed patented code for use or you correct any found infringements.
I can agree with the fact that we bandy jail terms pretty liberally but the people who do it are ELECTED officials. You won't make a change by posting to
IT budgets are still shrinking....
We need to hire MORE managers.
What I was saying was that Notes itself has APIs and security
I understand that. It is a good point, I just often wonder how many more apps would be shown as vulnerable if people didn't have the 'EZ Access' OS letting them in.
Lotus Notes has never had a security incident where a virus or worm successfully attacked it via Notes native interfaces or e-mail. (There have been some security patches required in the Internet-compatible interfaces.)
Would that be because it runs on a popular OS that has a security model based on Swiss cheese, thus eliminating the need to crack the app? I am actually asking not trolling, I do not know what Notes runs on.
I'll download the crack when it comes out next week, and my soldering iron and I will have an endless supply of cheap entertainment when the machines start showing up at the surplus stores in 2009.br>
Good thinking, you will need something to do in the evenings anyway...since Conan O Brien is taking the tonight show.
Typically posed as a trollish question, this author may or may not have had trolling in mind. I for one would like to know if there are any plans for the T42 Biometric laptops to have Linux run on them.
A new theoretical limit is sorely needed as I had almost thought of a way to exhaust the old limit.
is that pathetic attempt the best you can do at a presidential bash?
For the moment, but don't worry I have a plan.
It sure is handy to have a semi-scandal pop up just in time to gloss past the Prez's piss poor performance on the stage last night.
I do not think highly of george, however I do not think that he is THAT dumb.
"God, I really screwed the pooch last night. I know, I will have the cybersecurity guy resign in frustration that the nation is no better off now than four years ago. That'll help."
Nope, not even W could be that dumb.
I think it's ridiculous to blame the problem on the bush administration because i think we all know that's not the case
Exactly, we have nookalur level security on those systems.
What if it lands in dogshit?
Why, pray tell, are you eating near dogshit?
No they most certainly will not. Not unless these "amateurs" get the election process changed to a reality TV style format. People just don't care enough about politics and social entrepeneurship. They want to sit at home and drug their brains with TV. That's all they want out of life. House, two SUVs, a jetski, and 2.75 kids.
Stop getting all your facts about the population from the internet, step out of your moms house and look around the big blue room (no not IBMs wiring closet). Politics is fronted by the elected officials they make the decisions we want or they do not. Organized groups can have a HUGE impact on those officials starting with the not so good example of the 'flash mobs' at the RNC. People will learn though what is and is not effective. I am on several political lists and when issues I care about are mentioned I and other like minded souls respond. I have written enough times to my congressman that when I met him at a public library luncheon he recognized my name. He told me that writing a congressman with your views is like casting more than ten votes...why because less than one in 10 people write them (and yes that is write as in on paper). Imagine if in your hometown you organized 20 people to write your congressman on issues. That would carry real power and influence.
I downloaded a copy from the internet and didn't pay a cent for it!
I dissassembled my copy of Linux...want source?
How is that any different from what the average Slashdotter does?
We make better choices.
Yellowstone National Park is the caldera of a giant volcano
Yellowstone = Caldera = Sco = stolen BSD code = BSD is dying. Transitive property of equality states that Yellowstone is indeed dying (in a giant volcano)...BYE Darl