you will be waiting a long while then im sorry to say. you cant boot anythign unless its official sony software or you are using a modchip, but then again that would fall under the "additional hardware" category.
its already here, if you havnt noticed many of these people have bright colors on(it enhances there acid trip) and odd facial features (full blown acne)
I never advocate paying more for less, as a student i understand the financial issues when looking to purchase such a piece of equipment, but i also see this as a major problem, since everyone just sucks it up and purchases the whole package, there isnt a reason for any manufacturer to make the option available. perhaps if enouph people just waited and made out points heard, companies would give us what we want, rather than us buy what we dont just becouse its the only thing available thats close to our satisfaction.
i dunno why i am replying to a troll, but what the hell, why not.
First off i never said i would pay more, rather i said i would NOT buy one until i didnt have to pay more , care to read it again, second this is not an essay, nor any form of a official document what so ever, therefor i will not use proper grammer and if i choose to mispell or trim down words to make myself happy i will do so.
to sum it all up, you really need to read what people say before you attempt a quick witted reply to make fun of them, when all you did was try to argue with someone making the exact same point you did about the price difference.
I too havent found the right solution yet where i dont have to give some company money for crap i will never use. just please dont get pissed off and buy any laptop and pay the microsoft tax, becouse it just reports to there numbers as how many "users" there are. untill i find a solution that i can live with, and not pay MORE for the luxary of not having to purchase an operating system, i will not purchase a laptop. i am not afraid of doing without, and neither should you.
I remember being 2 years old living in my old house (we moved out when i was 3). i remember many details about the house, including my older brothers Drum set in the basement, the stairs which i deciced to play superman on and broke my arm off jumping off the third step. i remember my room as well as my sisters and mothers, who had one of those dimmer lights in it which i found absolutly fascinating at that age.
with all that work, its so much easier to just ask for id along with there credit card. why add all this techno-crap into the mix when it comes down to adding steps to get the same amount of security as the traditional "can i see your id?"
As much as i love open source and all, and i do agree Opensource helps fix this bug, but i think something like this should never have made it into a "stable" kernel.
im not sure, but i know the var doesnt work on any ATI cards, at least not consumer ones. Its been discussed on many ATI Card Related forums before, doesnt work for anyone.
Ive only had Win2k BSOD on me a few occasions. and they were all Hardware related. Typically failing ram or a bad video card trying to do OpenGL on its last Leg.
ive never had problems with my radeon 8500 i love the card to death, performs fast and no problems on ANY of my games. i have a 8500 and i wouldnt turn it in for anythign except maybe a 9700:)
the only thing that urks me is that they dont have SMP complicant drivers, so i cant use the nifty r_smp option on quake3 engine games D:
unfortunatly, even schools dont have much to do with them, they take them, not realising there horribly outdated, and after someone realises it, they then throw them away or end up paying for it to be "recycled" . doesnt solve much of a problem at all.
P.S. This comes from a recently graduated student from a poor urban school district.....
of coarse, when you have all in wonders lieing around and such. some people dont, some people like teh idea of using a set top box already in there living room for it as well. to each his own i say, some solutions are better for different people.
Did you get a modchip for your dreamcast, and if you did, dont you feel dumb now:).
Dont get me wrong, i have a dreamcast and run netbsd with it. however the xbox live service depends on unmodified consoles to prove that players dont cheat, and becouse of that requirement mod chips are not allowed, becouse it then becomes an uncontrolled enviroment. Sad but understandable, if you dont liek it, i guess you shouldnt get the service then.
Why is it that i now have 3 family members i know of who already have xbox live, furthermore are far from being pc geeks or anything of the like. They have broadband, got xbox live, and got it working without needing to call me.
Yeah.... seems like a real niche market to me...
And im sorry if there are people willing to pay for broadband and cannot get it, thats a act of life, the point is there is just too much data going back and forth for any type of analog connection to hold and carry it all. Piss moan and bitch all you want, i can already tell it was just a "MS is evil" post to begin with. And im sorry to say its not only microsoft with there console gaming system doing yet, Sony has a ethernet/modem adapter, yes it has a dialup modem in it, but all the games i played dont support it, and only support the broadband adapter part becouse of the need for bandwith.
If you actually got a USB DSL or Cable modem, you deserve your fate.
The games dont work with Dialup, like aol or 56k and hell, even ISDN is pushing it. at times you have 2 or three peoples voices being pushed down the line and have 20 players onscreen all needing bandwith without delay.
And before you bitch about microsoft, i also play ps2 games online, not nearly as much of a choice, but they also require broadband.
Its not as much of a niche market as you seem to think, if you have the extra cash to pay for xbox games online, you peobably already have the cash and the technical knowhow to have dsl or cable, and have it with a NAT applience or something equal to it. if your a cheap bastard and only have your aol dialup, your not going to spend the cash on xbox live.
Jesus fine you hate microsoft, but when you people bitch about shit when you never even took any time to research it, you just come off as uneducated assholes who like to splurt a never ending fountain of bullshit about a product youve never even taken a glance at.
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what the hell do you think it does.... i have a linux router sharing my dsl line, and it connects to xbox live through it. no modems, the xbox doesnt have one, just a single ethernet jack which i plug into my hib, tell the xbox its ip on my local lan and the gateway/dns servers, since im too lazy to setup DHCP and off it goes. makes me wonder what the hell you thought xbox live was....
I am a serious PC gamer, however you seem to have not played the system before renting. lemme go through your statements here
1: NFL Fever doesnt lag for me, its awesome gameplay 2: I havnt played any on the xbox yet, but reading text on a tv isnt hard, as rpg's have been doing it a long time. and thats the only reason i could think of for you to make such a comment 3: FPS can be done well if the controllers are right. Halo is just awesome on teh xbox, and the controls are quick to adapt to, i admit its the only FPS game i can play on a console, but it is proof that it can be done well. Ill just have to wait for the online version now.
And you forgot to mention racing games, which btw are lacking on PC's and are VERY good on gaming systems, which have a MASSIVE following who would LOVE to play them online.
Point being, if you want to stick to your pc's fine thats your opinion, however since it appears you havnt even tried teh service yet, please dont knock it down just becouse your anti-console gaming, not everyone wants to spend a shitload of money on a computer. And i havnt even addressed the huge cheater problem with pc games....
nice link, but when you realise where all that money went, it was getting the xbox live service up and running for the release, they were building an entire online network of services on no income for that service, so of coarse untill its released it appears as loss.
I have had the xbox live beta several weeks now, and it is nice to have an online system not attached to my computer, the mic does work as expected and the games seem just as fluid i would play them on single player.
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Becouse of gaming companies slow to relase linux versions of even servers for there games, i have to run them in wine untill a linux server becomes available. works well, and on a 1ghz athlon system running three gaming servers on it, the load average isnt even as high as you would expect.
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you will be waiting a long while then im sorry to say. you cant boot anythign unless its official sony software or you are using a modchip, but then again that would fall under the "additional hardware" category.
its already here, if you havnt noticed many of these people have bright colors on(it enhances there acid trip) and odd facial features (full blown acne)
I never advocate paying more for less, as a student i understand the financial issues when looking to purchase such a piece of equipment, but i also see this as a major problem, since everyone just sucks it up and purchases the whole package, there isnt a reason for any manufacturer to make the option available. perhaps if enouph people just waited and made out points heard, companies would give us what we want, rather than us buy what we dont just becouse its the only thing available thats close to our satisfaction.
i dunno why i am replying to a troll, but what the hell, why not.
First off i never said i would pay more, rather i said i would NOT buy one until i didnt have to pay more , care to read it again, second this is not an essay, nor any form of a official document what so ever, therefor i will not use proper grammer and if i choose to mispell or trim down words to make myself happy i will do so.
to sum it all up, you really need to read what people say before you attempt a quick witted reply to make fun of them, when all you did was try to argue with someone making the exact same point you did about the price difference.
I too havent found the right solution yet where i dont have to give some company money for crap i will never use. just please dont get pissed off and buy any laptop and pay the microsoft tax, becouse it just reports to there numbers as how many "users" there are. untill i find a solution that i can live with, and not pay MORE for the luxary of not having to purchase an operating system, i will not purchase a laptop. i am not afraid of doing without, and neither should you.
I remember being 2 years old living in my old house (we moved out when i was 3). i remember many details about the house, including my older brothers Drum set in the basement, the stairs which i deciced to play superman on and broke my arm off jumping off the third step. i remember my room as well as my sisters and mothers, who had one of those dimmer lights in it which i found absolutly fascinating at that age.
What the hell is your point? you could tell it was a joke right? lauph you insensitive clod!
with all that work, its so much easier to just ask for id along with there credit card. why add all this techno-crap into the mix when it comes down to adding steps to get the same amount of security as the traditional "can i see your id?"
As much as i love open source and all, and i do agree Opensource helps fix this bug, but i think something like this should never have made it into a "stable" kernel.
im not sure, but i know the var doesnt work on any ATI cards, at least not consumer ones. Its been discussed on many ATI Card Related forums before, doesnt work for anyone.
Ive only had Win2k BSOD on me a few occasions. and they were all Hardware related. Typically failing ram or a bad video card trying to do OpenGL on its last Leg.
but at least this story gives me more information before i click on any supplied links, the other one was horrible vaigue.
ive never had problems with my radeon 8500 :)
i love the card to death, performs fast and no problems on ANY of my games. i have a 8500 and i wouldnt turn it in for anythign except maybe a 9700
the only thing that urks me is that they dont have SMP complicant drivers, so i cant use the nifty r_smp option on quake3 engine games D:
unfortunatly, even schools dont have much to do with them, they take them, not realising there horribly outdated, and after someone realises it, they then throw them away or end up paying for it to be "recycled" . doesnt solve much of a problem at all.
P.S. This comes from a recently graduated student from a poor urban school district.....
of coarse, when you have all in wonders lieing around and such. some people dont, some people like teh idea of using a set top box already in there living room for it as well. to each his own i say, some solutions are better for different people.
speaking of spelling, what about grammer, check spelling nice time?? good god man, take your own advice or better yet just shut up.
btw, xbox's are 199.99, last i checked that was closer to 200 dollors not 300
but teh xbox's are p3's which are alot better about heat than any athlon
all xbox's that i have seen since march have been $199.99, at kmart (where i work) best buy, circuit city, walmart, everywhere.....
Did you get a modchip for your dreamcast, and if you did, dont you feel dumb now :).
Dont get me wrong, i have a dreamcast and run netbsd with it. however the xbox live service depends on unmodified consoles to prove that players dont cheat, and becouse of that requirement mod chips are not allowed, becouse it then becomes an uncontrolled enviroment. Sad but understandable, if you dont liek it, i guess you shouldnt get the service then.
Why is it that i now have 3 family members i know of who already have xbox live, furthermore are far from being pc geeks or anything of the like. They have broadband, got xbox live, and got it working without needing to call me.
Yeah.... seems like a real niche market to me...
And im sorry if there are people willing to pay for broadband and cannot get it, thats a act of life, the point is there is just too much data going back and forth for any type of analog connection to hold and carry it all. Piss moan and bitch all you want, i can already tell it was just a "MS is evil" post to begin with. And im sorry to say its not only microsoft with there console gaming system doing yet, Sony has a ethernet/modem adapter, yes it has a dialup modem in it, but all the games i played dont support it, and only support the broadband adapter part becouse of the need for bandwith.
If you actually got a USB DSL or Cable modem, you deserve your fate.
The games dont work with Dialup, like aol or 56k and hell, even ISDN is pushing it. at times you have 2 or three peoples voices being pushed down the line and have 20 players onscreen all needing bandwith without delay.
And before you bitch about microsoft, i also play ps2 games online, not nearly as much of a choice, but they also require broadband.
Its not as much of a niche market as you seem to think, if you have the extra cash to pay for xbox games online, you peobably already have the cash and the technical knowhow to have dsl or cable, and have it with a NAT applience or something equal to it. if your a cheap bastard and only have your aol dialup, your not going to spend the cash on xbox live.
Jesus fine you hate microsoft, but when you people bitch about shit when you never even took any time to research it, you just come off as uneducated assholes who like to splurt a never ending fountain of bullshit about a product youve never even taken a glance at.
what the hell do you think it does.... i have a linux router sharing my dsl line, and it connects to xbox live through it. no modems, the xbox doesnt have one, just a single ethernet jack which i plug into my hib, tell the xbox its ip on my local lan and the gateway/dns servers, since im too lazy to setup DHCP and off it goes. makes me wonder what the hell you thought xbox live was....
I am a serious PC gamer, however you seem to have not played the system before renting.
lemme go through your statements here
1: NFL Fever doesnt lag for me, its awesome gameplay
2: I havnt played any on the xbox yet, but reading text on a tv isnt hard, as rpg's have been doing it a long time. and thats the only reason i could think of for you to make such a comment
3: FPS can be done well if the controllers are right. Halo is just awesome on teh xbox, and the controls are quick to adapt to, i admit its the only FPS game i can play on a console, but it is proof that it can be done well. Ill just have to wait for the online version now.
And you forgot to mention racing games, which btw are lacking on PC's and are VERY good on gaming systems, which have a MASSIVE following who would LOVE to play them online.
Point being, if you want to stick to your pc's fine thats your opinion, however since it appears you havnt even tried teh service yet, please dont knock it down just becouse your anti-console gaming, not everyone wants to spend a shitload of money on a computer. And i havnt even addressed the huge cheater problem with pc games....
nice link, but when you realise where all that money went, it was getting the xbox live service up and running for the release, they were building an entire online network of services on no income for that service, so of coarse untill its released it appears as loss.
I have had the xbox live beta several weeks now, and it is nice to have an online system not attached to my computer, the mic does work as expected and the games seem just as fluid i would play them on single player.
Becouse of gaming companies slow to relase linux versions of even servers for there games, i have to run them in wine untill a linux server becomes available. works well, and on a 1ghz athlon system running three gaming servers on it, the load average isnt even as high as you would expect.