Yankee group can claim no bias all they like - but I am sick of Laura DiDio fud being posted here (Oh she of 'SCO's claims are justified after looking at the source' fame).
So Yankee Group is claiming SCO did a lousy job in coding Linux? I wonder if that's another lawsuit from SCO. This time against Yankee group for hurting their feelings or something.
I noticed it's available for download at http://freshmeat.net/projects/dukeforever/ and it's being written in Perl. I knew Perl was powerful but now I'm really impressed:-)
I agree. One thing I've been surprised is the lack of discussion regarding other factors such as the Sun (for example). We've seen a measureable increase in solar output which can't be discounted. I'm not saying humans have no affect upon the environment but there are other pieces to the puzzle. As I understand it, the earth has experienced climate shifts many times in it's history. Humans were not around to take credit. I've wondered if this isn't just a natural process we're witnessing.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am tired of hearing about video games leading to violence. Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own decisions?
Agreed. If violent video games were solely responsible for violence in RL then I should have been locked away by now. I've played these kind of games since I was a kid. From the basic Star Control type games to DOOM III and HL2. From chainsaws to futuristic weapons. People are not animals. They simply choose to act like them.
And people complain about how many Linux distrobutions there are!
You think that's bad. I remember when Microsoft said all these Linux Desktops are bad because it confuses people. Well.. I guess it can't be that bad since we have Windows Classic and Windows XP desktops now. I wonder if Vista will have 6 desktops. One for each release. And that's not including the two we already have.
And it is like a great tidal wave just off the shore. This video cassette recorder and the blank tape threaten profoundly the life-sustaining protection, I guess you would call it, on which copyright owners depend, on which film people depend, on which television people depend and it is called copyright
If the video cassette recorder was bad and threatened them in 1982 then why are they still in business? I understand last year they suffered record breaking profits! Now we hear the same things about 25 years later. Did I mention they are suffering record breaking profits?
3.2.18.1 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point A. No aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or landing are permitted except in the case of abort.
I don'tsee how this would work in space. In a vacuum what would the blades of the chopper push against to provide lift? No atmosphere:D
They need to install mind probes in the brain of every one of us. As well as receiving suggestive messages they also act as a tracking device
Please don't move. Stay where you are. We'll be over in a few minutes to install the mind probe. Somehow the paperwork on your case was missed and you fell through the cracks. Thanks for helping us out man.
Someone hit that guy over the head with a copy of 1984.
Then fire the dumbass. Some people just don't understand that crap will not be tolerated.
Our country was not founded on this crap. Hell, if anyone reads the writing of our Founding Fathers, Documents such as the Constitution and the Declaration of Independance, they might just learn we're taught to overthrow the government when they abuse the people. If this crap goes unchecked then what alternative do we have?
I know it sounds bad but then again, it IS their words and hope we protect the country from idiots like him.
Do they use the Back to the Future method or the Bill and Teds method of time travel?
As I recall, the last episode I saw of of Star Trek Enterprise had a scene in which their Science Officer mentions "The Vulcan Science authority has stated that Time Travel is Impossible". And so it must be. The Vulcans believe it. So should we:-)
so let the debate begin again over which OS is really more secure.
I hear this junk all the time and can't believe people can say an OS is secure / insecure by the "applications" running on it. How is "Adobe Acrobat Reader" a reflection of how "insecure" Linux is? Or a problem with "Apache mod_install"? These are all applications which run on top of Linux. They are NOT the Linux OS by any means. The same goes for Windows with "Adobe Acrobat Reader" and "IBM Websphere". I would argue this is a garbage comparison.
Now compare what IS inside the OS. Windows cannot function without IE (according to Bill Gates). It's been incorporated deeply into the OS. Security problems with IE would qualify as a problem with the OS (for example). If it's something part of the OS then I would buy it as a security problem. Linux issues IMO would include problems such as say iptables, Linux Kernel Race Condition / Buffer Overflow and maybe Gnome/KDE (to name a few)
I understand I may be just a little picky about this but I think I've demonstrated my argument.
Both HD-DVD, and Blue Ray will be delayed until the DRM is done, so they'll both end up launching at the same time creating a split in the market that makes DVD+ DVD- elegant by comparison.
Can anyone say 2 stillborn products?
That's what worries me. We have a small business creating personalized DVD's using a customers pictures and videos. Occasionally we run into a problem with the DVD media. Usually we burn DVD-R's using Ridata G04's. The new DVD format could work out and everyone just get's along.
I've been watching this technology develop with great interest. Eventually I'll have customers asking me to build disks with this format. Hopefully I won't have to play the DRM game but we'll see.
Prove me wrong with actual numbers, not idiotic "I hate Microsoft so they must have gotten it wrong" rants.
Complain about Microsoft for the right reasons. This is just silly. I'll repeat it one more time for effect: If the GUI isn't being used, IT'S NOT USING CPU! Again, I'm willing to be wrong, and I've spent so little time with MS operating systems that I easily could be wrong, but you have to show me numbers, not opinions.
I don't use Microsoft products enough to make a case either way. I've been told many times the GUI is taking up system resources such as CPU and memory. If it's swapped off to disk I can't imagine it being that tiny of a footprint. If someone has numbers then please post them. I'm curious what the results are.
Windows Server 2003's GUI overhead is extremely small in comparison to the other tasks it's performing. Besides, it's not a matter of being "scared" of a CLI, in fact pretty much all the Windows sysadmins I know (including myself) use the Windows command line on a regular basis. Believe it or not, but a GUI really can give a boost to speed and efficiency when it comes to server management, regardless of what the zealots here might say.
True however I think he was talking about the 95% of the time Windows SysAdmins aren't doing anything to the server. I mean when you aren't doing working on the system then why do you need the GUI? It's not doing anything but sucking up system resources.
I use both X and CLI for managing my systems. Usually X is shut off. Why burn up resources when they can be better used elsewhere:-)
There are these things called "Patent Libraries" that contain (now follow me here, it gets tricky) "patent information"...
Good Point! Years ago I worked for a company developing medical equipment. Some really cool stuff was being designed. They had a couple of Patent Lawyers who worked on this sort of thing all the time. They would research (or have an intern do it) various patents and discuss what was already protected. I'm sure Microsoft has more than the Lion's share of Patent Lawyers. My guess is either they missed it (could happen) or they simply ignored it (not like that can't happen either).
While training chimps to perform a routine task with redundant steps, the chimps were able to figure out and eliminate the redundant steps, while the human children routinely performed them despite their evident uselessness
Ever work for the Military? As much as I respect those serving you have to wonder about some of the regs they have to live by. If you've worked as a contractor (or served) then you know what I mean:-)
The actual people that did the hacking were working for this "First4Internet" company. Anyone that designed, wrote or approved a part of the software deemed to be inappropriate could face jail time.
Don't know if anyone has thought of this but would they really be the responsible company? Even though they wrote the software, they wrote it for Sony Corp. It's my understanding that most software developers write code which is owned by the Company (their employer). Wouldn't this indemnify First4Internet of any wrong doing?
I agree this requires a severe penalty. If non corporate hackers could face jail time or severe financial penalties then Corporations should be held to the same standards put into law.
"How many burns are you allowed of a movie? None. How many of a videogame? None. You get the idea. Even the CDs with content protection allow consumers to burn 3 copies or so for personal use. The idea is not to inhibit personal use, but to allow personal use but discourage (not prevent, you can never prevent) copying well beyond personal use."
Actualy it was my understanding the Supreme Court put this issue to rest about 8 years ago. We are entitled to one (1) archival copy of our media. I'm not aware of this having changed in the last few years. I guess I shouldn't be surprised they are saying this. It's a different world they live in.
The Herald seems to think that allowing workers to dress comfortably is a *bad* thing. How strange.
What they fail to explain in the article is how this helps improve our ability to provide services to those who hire us. Are white shirts and ties really going to provide better code for instance?
They focus on T-shirts rather than the work provided in making people's lives better.
As of writing this, my yahoo mail account (that I haven't used anywhere for 5 years now) contains 4,630 bulk mails, plus another 1,829 messages that didn't get filtered and ended up in my inbox. I don't mind the bulk mailbox - that's where they should go, and it's good for a laugh every once in a while. The amount of crap flowing into the inbox as "real" mail, though, makes the account essentially useless.
I've had similar experiences with Yahoo Email. I'm not terribly impressed with their staff either. They didn't want to talk about the new "Marketing options" in their system when I started reading about them. By default you were setup to accept every piece of email trash Yahoo or an affiliate generated. Took a bit but I found where to disable that They had it buried somewhere silly.
The spam mail received was unreal. The amount of pron html email's received was staggaring. I eventually gave up on them and switched to Gmail. Sure I get pron email's there. At least it usually appears under the "spam" folder instead of my inbox. (yes.. I spent some time on Yahoo setting up the blocking rules).
Even if the software is free it seems to me that the most expensive thing is always the developers, training, implementation, etc.
Wouldn't you have this anyway? It's been one of the factors Microsoft brings up when arguing against adoption of OpenSource solutions. What's interesting to me is they usually forget to mention it applies to them as well.
The geeks calling his house and such IS harassment, but Penny Arcade isn't liable for that. Nowhere on their site do I see his contact info or directions to contact him. In fact they say "You're all asking me for Jack's Email and or phone number and I respect that. The problem is that I can't give that info out."
As far as I can see, Penny Arcade is in the clear.
Even better, the letter he wrote to the Police had his number/address removed. They are going to some effort to protect him from hurting himself.
Personally I think Jack's an idiot but that's his legal right. Thought of getting one of those I hate Jack shirts. I'm hoping they come out with J2.0 shirts with something like "Jack's a Jerk" or something more creative:-)
What amazes me is that they had IBM hardware and RedHat Engineers working on this and it still didn't work. I've installed Linux servers for 10 years and rarely have experienced such problems. Usually it was the hardware or my screw up at the center of it all.
Besides the reference they were running IBM hardware, I wonder what their configuration was. That's the tough part of these kind of articles. Very little information and a conclusion. Sure it was IBM certified hardware and it was ruled out as the problem. Perhaps the RedHat engineers simply screwed up. Not like that couldn't happen:-D
"We asked the customer to do a diagnostic test and the customer never responded, so it was impossible for us to address the issue," Mr McLaren says.
I wonder why they never bothered to respond to RedHat. If it was important then they would have worked with the Vendor. I'd like to see someone work with ANY Operating System and ignore their vendors help. With these tidbits of information, it's difficult to take such a conclusion seriously.
Unix developers to SCO: Die in a fire.
:-)
(We want the insurance money)
Personaly I wouldn't be so P.C. about it. Something like 'FSCK You' works. Ok. You can say the F word
Yankee group can claim no bias all they like - but I am sick of Laura DiDio fud being posted here (Oh she of 'SCO's claims are justified after looking at the source' fame).
:-)
So Yankee Group is claiming SCO did a lousy job in coding Linux? I wonder if that's another lawsuit from SCO. This time against Yankee group for hurting their feelings or something.
Yes, that was a joke btw
This sounds great...where can I preorder it?
:-)
I noticed it's available for download at http://freshmeat.net/projects/dukeforever/ and it's being written in Perl. I knew Perl was powerful but now I'm really impressed
Climate change is more than weather
I agree. One thing I've been surprised is the lack of discussion regarding other factors such as the Sun (for example). We've seen a measureable increase in solar output which can't be discounted. I'm not saying humans have no affect upon the environment but there are other pieces to the puzzle. As I understand it, the earth has experienced climate shifts many times in it's history. Humans were not around to take credit. I've wondered if this isn't just a natural process we're witnessing.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one am tired of hearing about video games leading to violence. Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own decisions?
Agreed. If violent video games were solely responsible for violence in RL then I should have been locked away by now. I've played these kind of games since I was a kid. From the basic Star Control type games to DOOM III and HL2. From chainsaws to futuristic weapons. People are not animals. They simply choose to act like them.
What mormon schools are you referring to? The only mormon school I've ever heard of is Brigham Young University.
You forgot a few.
There is also BYU Idaho and BYU Hawaii and BYU Israel. That pretty much sums it up.
And people complain about how many Linux distrobutions there are!
You think that's bad. I remember when Microsoft said all these Linux Desktops are bad because it confuses people. Well.. I guess it can't be that bad since we have Windows Classic and Windows XP desktops now. I wonder if Vista will have 6 desktops. One for each release. And that's not including the two we already have.
And it is like a great tidal wave just off the shore. This video cassette recorder and the blank tape threaten profoundly the life-sustaining protection, I guess you would call it, on which copyright owners depend, on which film people depend, on which television people depend and it is called copyright
If the video cassette recorder was bad and threatened them in 1982 then why are they still in business? I understand last year they suffered record breaking profits! Now we hear the same things about 25 years later. Did I mention they are suffering record breaking profits?
3.2.18.1 Take-off vertically under only rocket power from Point A. No aerodynamic or air-breathing methods of hovering, propulsion, or landing are permitted except in the case of abort.
:D
I don'tsee how this would work in space. In a vacuum what would the blades of the chopper push against to provide lift? No atmosphere
They need to install mind probes in the brain of every one of us. As well as receiving suggestive messages they also act as a tracking device
;-)
Please don't move. Stay where you are. We'll be over in a few minutes to install the mind probe. Somehow the paperwork on your case was missed and you fell through the cracks. Thanks for helping us out man.
We owe you one
Someone hit that guy over the head with a copy of 1984.
Then fire the dumbass. Some people just don't understand that crap will not be tolerated.
Our country was not founded on this crap. Hell, if anyone reads the writing of our Founding Fathers, Documents such as the Constitution and the Declaration of Independance, they might just learn we're taught to overthrow the government when they abuse the people. If this crap goes unchecked then what alternative do we have?
I know it sounds bad but then again, it IS their words and hope we protect the country from idiots like him.
Do they use the Back to the Future method or the Bill and Teds method of time travel?
:-)
;-D
As I recall, the last episode I saw of of Star Trek Enterprise had a scene in which their Science Officer mentions "The Vulcan Science authority has stated that Time Travel is Impossible". And so it must be. The Vulcans believe it. So should we
After all, they must know something we don't
so let the debate begin again over which OS is really more secure.
I hear this junk all the time and can't believe people can say an OS is secure / insecure by the "applications" running on it. How is "Adobe Acrobat Reader" a reflection of how "insecure" Linux is? Or a problem with "Apache mod_install"? These are all applications which run on top of Linux. They are NOT the Linux OS by any means. The same goes for Windows with "Adobe Acrobat Reader" and "IBM Websphere". I would argue this is a garbage comparison.
Now compare what IS inside the OS. Windows cannot function without IE (according to Bill Gates). It's been incorporated deeply into the OS. Security problems with IE would qualify as a problem with the OS (for example). If it's something part of the OS then I would buy it as a security problem. Linux issues IMO would include problems such as say iptables, Linux Kernel Race Condition / Buffer Overflow and maybe Gnome/KDE (to name a few)
I understand I may be just a little picky about this but I think I've demonstrated my argument.
Both HD-DVD, and Blue Ray will be delayed until the DRM is done, so they'll both end up launching at the same time creating a split in the market that makes DVD+ DVD- elegant by comparison.
Can anyone say 2 stillborn products?
That's what worries me. We have a small business creating personalized DVD's using a customers pictures and videos. Occasionally we run into a problem with the DVD media. Usually we burn DVD-R's using Ridata G04's. The new DVD format could work out and everyone just get's along.
I've been watching this technology develop with great interest. Eventually I'll have customers asking me to build disks with this format. Hopefully I won't have to play the DRM game but we'll see.
Prove me wrong with actual numbers, not idiotic "I hate Microsoft so they must have gotten it wrong" rants.
Complain about Microsoft for the right reasons. This is just silly. I'll repeat it one more time for effect: If the GUI isn't being used, IT'S NOT USING CPU! Again, I'm willing to be wrong, and I've spent so little time with MS operating systems that I easily could be wrong, but you have to show me numbers, not opinions.
I don't use Microsoft products enough to make a case either way. I've been told many times the GUI is taking up system resources such as CPU and memory. If it's swapped off to disk I can't imagine it being that tiny of a footprint. If someone has numbers then please post them. I'm curious what the results are.
Windows Server 2003's GUI overhead is extremely small in comparison to the other tasks it's performing. Besides, it's not a matter of being "scared" of a CLI, in fact pretty much all the Windows sysadmins I know (including myself) use the Windows command line on a regular basis. Believe it or not, but a GUI really can give a boost to speed and efficiency when it comes to server management, regardless of what the zealots here might say.
:-)
True however I think he was talking about the 95% of the time Windows SysAdmins aren't doing anything to the server. I mean when you aren't doing working on the system then why do you need the GUI? It's not doing anything but sucking up system resources.
I use both X and CLI for managing my systems. Usually X is shut off. Why burn up resources when they can be better used elsewhere
There are these things called "Patent Libraries" that contain (now follow me here, it gets tricky) "patent information"...
Good Point! Years ago I worked for a company developing medical equipment. Some really cool stuff was being designed. They had a couple of Patent Lawyers who worked on this sort of thing all the time. They would research (or have an intern do it) various patents and discuss what was already protected. I'm sure Microsoft has more than the Lion's share of Patent Lawyers. My guess is either they missed it (could happen) or they simply ignored it (not like that can't happen either).
While training chimps to perform a routine task with redundant steps, the chimps were able to figure out and eliminate the redundant steps, while the human children routinely performed them despite their evident uselessness
:-)
Ever work for the Military? As much as I respect those serving you have to wonder about some of the regs they have to live by. If you've worked as a contractor (or served) then you know what I mean
The actual people that did the hacking were working for this "First4Internet" company. Anyone that designed, wrote or approved a part of the software deemed to be inappropriate could face jail time.
Don't know if anyone has thought of this but would they really be the responsible company? Even though they wrote the software, they wrote it for Sony Corp. It's my understanding that most software developers write code which is owned by the Company (their employer). Wouldn't this indemnify First4Internet of any wrong doing?
I agree this requires a severe penalty. If non corporate hackers could face jail time or severe financial penalties then Corporations should be held to the same standards put into law.
"How many burns are you allowed of a movie? None. How many of a videogame? None. You get the idea. Even the CDs with content protection allow consumers to burn 3 copies or so for personal use. The idea is not to inhibit personal use, but to allow personal use but discourage (not prevent, you can never prevent) copying well beyond personal use."
Actualy it was my understanding the Supreme Court put this issue to rest about 8 years ago. We are entitled to one (1) archival copy of our media. I'm not aware of this having changed in the last few years. I guess I shouldn't be surprised they are saying this. It's a different world they live in.
The Herald seems to think that allowing workers to dress comfortably is a *bad* thing. How strange.
What they fail to explain in the article is how this helps improve our ability to provide services to those who hire us. Are white shirts and ties really going to provide better code for instance?
They focus on T-shirts rather than the work provided in making people's lives better.
As of writing this, my yahoo mail account (that I haven't used anywhere for 5 years now) contains 4,630 bulk mails, plus another 1,829 messages that didn't get filtered and ended up in my inbox. I don't mind the bulk mailbox - that's where they should go, and it's good for a laugh every once in a while. The amount of crap flowing into the inbox as "real" mail, though, makes the account essentially useless.
I've had similar experiences with Yahoo Email. I'm not terribly impressed with their staff either. They didn't want to talk about the new "Marketing options" in their system when I started reading about them. By default you were setup to accept every piece of email trash Yahoo or an affiliate generated. Took a bit but I found where to disable that They had it buried somewhere silly.
The spam mail received was unreal. The amount of pron html email's received was staggaring. I eventually gave up on them and switched to Gmail. Sure I get pron email's there. At least it usually appears under the "spam" folder instead of my inbox. (yes.. I spent some time on Yahoo setting up the blocking rules).
Even if the software is free it seems to me that the most expensive thing is always the developers, training, implementation, etc.
Wouldn't you have this anyway? It's been one of the factors Microsoft brings up when arguing against adoption of OpenSource solutions. What's interesting to me is they usually forget to mention it applies to them as well.
The geeks calling his house and such IS harassment, but Penny Arcade isn't liable for that. Nowhere on their site do I see his contact info or directions to contact him. In fact they say "You're all asking me for Jack's Email and or phone number and I respect that. The problem is that I can't give that info out."
:-)
As far as I can see, Penny Arcade is in the clear.
Even better, the letter he wrote to the Police had his number/address removed. They are going to some effort to protect him from hurting himself.
Personally I think Jack's an idiot but that's his legal right. Thought of getting one of those I hate Jack shirts. I'm hoping they come out with J2.0 shirts with something like "Jack's a Jerk" or something more creative
What amazes me is that they had IBM hardware and RedHat Engineers working on this and it still didn't work. I've installed Linux servers for 10 years and rarely have experienced such problems. Usually it was the hardware or my screw up at the center of it all.
:-D
Besides the reference they were running IBM hardware, I wonder what their configuration was. That's the tough part of these kind of articles. Very little information and a conclusion. Sure it was IBM certified hardware and it was ruled out as the problem. Perhaps the RedHat engineers simply screwed up. Not like that couldn't happen
"We asked the customer to do a diagnostic test and the customer never responded, so it was impossible for us to address the issue," Mr McLaren says.
I wonder why they never bothered to respond to RedHat. If it was important then they would have worked with the Vendor. I'd like to see someone work with ANY Operating System and ignore their vendors help. With these tidbits of information, it's difficult to take such a conclusion seriously.