They are now in the music production biz, aka, the RIAA.
They also seek world domination of the coffee shop business.
It's win-win.
But if you want to look for an evil figure at the center of this conspiracy, it's you and your fucking tripple wipple homo latte and your crippled wifi hotspots.
They also sue anybody who dares run their own wireless device within range of one of their stores.
"Both sides stand to lose out with 1/3 of of new releases coming from Universal and an estimated 15% of Universal's sales coming from digital downloads. Apple's market share is about 75% of digital downloads, and digital downloads are growing while CD sales are shrinking."
Both sides stand to lose? You try to make it sound like iTunes is the only way to download content on the 'net.
iTunes may have good marketshare now, but it's eroding. It was, for all intents and purposes, the only player in the game. It is no longer.
So Apple is trying to build a monopoly on distribution of content, and the providers are bucking. If anyone but Apple were involved, this would be good news.
The insinuation that media cannot survive without Apple is, at least I very much hope it is, ridiculous.
I do not want Steve Jobs or anyone else being the guy who decides what, when and how I watch something.
Internet Explorer on Windows Mobile is frankly a much more capable browser.
You're not even comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing apples to dog turds - because you know damn well oranges are better in any measurable respect.
Like they didn't know about these export restrictions when this project started.
They could have set it up in a few hours north in Canada, and been free and clear.
Guess what else? No iPhones for Cuba, Syria and the like.. ever. Imagine that. The WHOLE WORLD will be revolutionized and brought into a new era of peace and prosperity, except Cuba. All because George Bush is a terrorist!
Anyways, who else hates america? I never get tired of hearing slashdots insightful political commentary.
the Wii's browser (opera) can play flash, so if you got a wii and internet, you already got a buttload of games to play. I think the parent was thinkign along these lines.
A handful of school boards, out of thousands, are situated in fairly religious areas, and so the local education reflected the local society.
So a bunch of pedantic asshats, who know everything there is to know about the universe, and are completely unfallible, make a big fucking deal out of it. There is no possible way that anything exists other than the way that Einstein, Darwin, Pasteur et al envisioned it. READ THE FUCKING BOOK AND BE SMART LIKE ME AND SHUT UP. STOP ASKING QUESTIONS.
Do we really want this kind of shit in the states? More federal oversight of education? Yay, now no school can excel. Hooray. NCLB didnt fuck everything up enough.
Hell, they dont even teach arithmetic anymore. My kid in 6th grade has the same Ti86 graphing calculator (required by school, mandated by the gov) I hardly needed in university level math courses. Nope, no more adding. Just push these buttons.
Nope, learning is hard, and hurts peoples self esteem when they realize they arent as perfect as mommy says.
"Todays assignment is to feel good about yourself! Everyone gets an A, good job guys."
Education is a very personal business. Personal as in student-teacher. I shudder any time any government jerkoff starts talking "curriculum".
I mean these are the same fucks who decided I "had to" take a course in WordPerfect in high school.. Thanks guys! It really helped me out!
I wish our local school board could make up its own mind what to teach, and what not. At least if he was being taught intelligent design, he'd at least be learning SOMETHING.
We see this on slashdot all the time... we call it 'trolling'.
Before assholes like you took the site over, we called it discussion. One might actually discuss the technical merits of a zune vs ipod vs some other mp3 player, instead of this "my company can beat up your company" bullshit.
I personally think it was the addition of the politics bullshit that ended this sites run as a real tech discussion site. Daily flamewars of "bush sucks no usa sucks no you suck arr" pretty much did in any credibility this site had.
Sure it was always pro-linux, anti-MSFT, but now it's almost become a little anti-linux. Linux is not, after all, an Apple product.
None of the OSS lumnaries, geek celebs, or major project members post here anymore. I doubt they even read the site anymore. Hell, why should they? CNN.com is more timely for "tech news".
Just to wrap up, there is no "high expectation", "low expectation" nor any other sort of "expectation" for the iPhone, outside of mac-fan world. To everyone else, it's just another cell phone.
PocketTunes (freeware for Palm, PocketPC, etc) has album preview - I haven't played with my new phone enough, but I think the inbuilt windows media player can do this too.
Whee, I can view thumbnails. But its a big deal when Apple does it.
I have a complete browser. It works w/ flash too (is it true the iPhone doesnt?)
Dials or knobs? What the hell is that? The reality distortion field I keep hearing about? Show me a cell phone with dials or knobs.
ALL HEIL iPHONE, THE FIRST CELL PHONE WITHOUT CONFUSING DIALS AND KNOBS! Now you're just being silly.
I have a touchscreen, just like the iPhone. I also have some buttons, so I can use the phone "blind". The iPhone looks like I'm gonna have fun on the highway avoiding the assholes using the thing with two hands while they stare at the screen to see where to put their fingers.
I do wish they'd tweak the UI a little more on my Treo, and toss out any need at all for the stylus. I can use my fingers maybe 99% of the time as it is, though.
I'm not saying the iPhone is bad. I'm just utterly confused as to why its such a big deal. It will not revolutionize anybodys life, and brings nothing new to the table but "image".
Does it make it trivial to synch your data, your email, your bookmarks, your movies, and music? By trivial I mean, no user action, just plug into your computer!
OT, but yeah, my new 700w does. ActiveSync just does it as soon as I plug it in. The old PalmOS based 650 I had, I had to push a button though.
It's kind of a shitty feature, since I have to make sure to weed out all the spam before I plug my phone in to charge, else I have to sort through it there. But then, it's only shitty as a MSFT feature. It's hip and cool for an Apple feature, I'm sure.
As for advertisements, etc. No, I dont see the Treo pushed hard. But every other TV commercial I see is for "the hippest cell phone evar"!!! Like those "music hunter" dudes or whatever.
The build quality thing is debatable. I never had any other phone I owned fall apart or anything, and see no need to improve here. The first gen iPods had some pretty unforgivable (IMO) sound quality issues. I don't see Apple as better than any other player here - though they're certainly seen as such.
You sort of gloss over point 2. I know Apple is viewed as "hip" where everyone else isn't. What I don't get is why. Point 3 is obvious, but why was n-gage such a failure? I submit to you, if it had an Apple logo, it would have succeeded. We both know there's a huge number of people who would be happy with a dried up dog turd in a box, if it was from Apple.
You got two companies, both started in the garage by some dropout hippies. Apple and Microsoft. Today, both companies are huge. Microsoft is huger, sure, but Apple is ginormous huge. Somehow, though, Apple managed to retain it's "small time friendly hippy garage outfit" status. Not only retain it - pass it on to another generation!
It's fascinating. What other company, in any field, has managed to do this?
How does Apple do this? They like convert people into Apple salesmen - like zombies or something.
Look at your post, "chasing the ipod generation", "its the hippest phone ever", etc, etc..
Everybody tries to do this. Apple isn't alone. You dont think PalmOne, Motorola, Erikson, Nokia want to be considered "hip"?
First smartphone to target the market? What the hell was n-gage? You telling me that was pitched to stuffy businessmen to help organize their schedules?
I really don't understand how Apple has this affect.
The device does nothing new, features nothing new, offers nothing new. I can do all of this on my Treo right now. The only new thing is, like you said, "its the hippest phone ever", and nobody will shut up about it.
But just imagine, it wasnt made by Apple - say it was a Motorola, or Erikson, or billy magoo. It's the exact same design, exact same features, exact same software. Would we be talking about it right now?
But who cares? Really. Will it make any difference?
You don't get a copy of the content. You cant download and store the videos. If you suddenly CAN do this, like some sort of Apple/Google alliance to allow downloads only from Macs, that'd be news - big news.
But in the end, who cares if it streamed through flash, H.264, or the image is assembled in realtime by pixies on a lite brite? You're still streaming the same grainy video of some goth chick listing foods she likes.
Shouldn't the inbuilt browser be able to view YouTube anyways?
It is really interesting, from a marketing point of view, how Apple takes things that would be ho-hum for any other brand or company, and suddenly turns it into front page news with the whole "mystery feature" game. They do this over and over and over, and nobody ever seems to catch on.
I mean, realistically, it's just another smartphone in an already overcrowded market. But it's front page news every day.
Would you care if someone posthumously added more copy protection or licensing terms to your VHS machine? You know, that black box you use as a stand for your Xbox 360/wii/whatever?
With on-demand download services like vongo, on-demand video via cable/satellite/whatever, XBox live marketplace, moviebeam, and so on, how much longer do you plan to buy and sell these stupid plastic discs anyways?
I mean, I suddenly have 2 good "built in" options for movies - in high def no less, 360 marketplace, and comcast on-demand. I have way more options you want to consider all the online Vongo-type services.
So whatever rights blah blah blah they can put whatever restrictions on those stupid f*cking plastic discs all they want.
They're just hurting themselves. I'll never burn a video DVD again in my life.
Similarly, I could give two shits how many root kits Sony is putting on CDs these days. What is this, 1992, when I gave a fuck about paying 20 bucks for 10 songs on a 6 inch plastic disc? Gimmeabreakpal.
Your post makes me wonder about all this coming mess of more license bullshit.
I set up an embedded tivo-like device. The kernel needs a hardware key to boot. This is ok, the kernel is still v2.
So, once past that and booted, its full of gnu tools, and other GPL3 stuff.
Those tools dont require any hardware key. GCC needs no key. It's stock, and I happily ship the source, etc. Does GPL3 invalidate me using it now? Does the license have that much reach, basically saying "you cant use this software on certain types of hardware?"
I'd almost rather figure out MS licensing v9.0 or whatever the fuck they have now.
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A stupid VB front end to some registry hacks. Weedooo
Oh well, I guess that's as much know-how as I'd expect from an Apple fan site - HOW TO USE A CREDIT CARD AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR COMPUTER SAVVY.
They are now in the music production biz, aka, the RIAA.
They also seek world domination of the coffee shop business.
It's win-win.
But if you want to look for an evil figure at the center of this conspiracy, it's you and your fucking tripple wipple homo latte and your crippled wifi hotspots.
They also sue anybody who dares run their own wireless device within range of one of their stores.
Or, is it the case that the rules change if its a group you don't like?
Ie; whites scavenge in an emergency, niggers "loot".
As someone who is FORCED to use a Mac at work, I find the presence of finder to be an affront to my rights as a computer user.
I don't like its ugly face.
When will Apple finally face some justice like MSFT did?
It is absolutely criminal the way they cripple the Mac community by forcing us to use their iLife, iTunes junk.
Where are you DOJ
They dont shell out a new console, they ship you a refurbed unit.
Give them a CC# and they'll cross ship (send your refurbed unit out right now, before they recieve your return).
Then they fix yours, and put it in the pool to be sent to someone else.
It's how RMA's work.
iPhone is not news.
Both sides stand to lose? You try to make it sound like iTunes is the only way to download content on the 'net.
iTunes may have good marketshare now, but it's eroding. It was, for all intents and purposes, the only player in the game. It is no longer.
So Apple is trying to build a monopoly on distribution of content, and the providers are bucking. If anyone but Apple were involved, this would be good news.
The insinuation that media cannot survive without Apple is, at least I very much hope it is, ridiculous.
I do not want Steve Jobs or anyone else being the guy who decides what, when and how I watch something.
and its possible to dump the bios and compare its checksum to what it was before she touched it.
If any 1 or 0 is changed in the BIOS or HDD, it is detectable.
What? The iPhones browser doesnt even do flash.
Internet Explorer on Windows Mobile is frankly a much more capable browser.
You're not even comparing apples to oranges, you're comparing apples to dog turds - because you know damn well oranges are better in any measurable respect.
Like they didn't know about these export restrictions when this project started.
They could have set it up in a few hours north in Canada, and been free and clear.
Guess what else? No iPhones for Cuba, Syria and the like.. ever. Imagine that. The WHOLE WORLD will be revolutionized and brought into a new era of peace and prosperity, except Cuba. All because George Bush is a terrorist!
Anyways, who else hates america? I never get tired of hearing slashdots insightful political commentary.
Microcode is updatable on intel processors.
People have fixed/coded around bugs before. This is all a tempest in a teapot.
the Wii's browser (opera) can play flash, so if you got a wii and internet, you already got a buttload of games to play. I think the parent was thinkign along these lines.
It's not an issue.
A handful of school boards, out of thousands, are situated in fairly religious areas, and so the local education reflected the local society.
So a bunch of pedantic asshats, who know everything there is to know about the universe, and are completely unfallible, make a big fucking deal out of it. There is no possible way that anything exists other than the way that Einstein, Darwin, Pasteur et al envisioned it. READ THE FUCKING BOOK AND BE SMART LIKE ME AND SHUT UP. STOP ASKING QUESTIONS.
Do we really want this kind of shit in the states? More federal oversight of education? Yay, now no school can excel. Hooray. NCLB didnt fuck everything up enough.
Hell, they dont even teach arithmetic anymore. My kid in 6th grade has the same Ti86 graphing calculator (required by school, mandated by the gov) I hardly needed in university level math courses. Nope, no more adding. Just push these buttons.
Nope, learning is hard, and hurts peoples self esteem when they realize they arent as perfect as mommy says.
"Todays assignment is to feel good about yourself! Everyone gets an A, good job guys."
Education is a very personal business. Personal as in student-teacher. I shudder any time any government jerkoff starts talking "curriculum".
I mean these are the same fucks who decided I "had to" take a course in WordPerfect in high school.. Thanks guys! It really helped me out!
I wish our local school board could make up its own mind what to teach, and what not. At least if he was being taught intelligent design, he'd at least be learning SOMETHING.
We see this on slashdot all the time... we call it 'trolling'.
Before assholes like you took the site over, we called it discussion. One might actually discuss the technical merits of a zune vs ipod vs some other mp3 player, instead of this "my company can beat up your company" bullshit.
I personally think it was the addition of the politics bullshit that ended this sites run as a real tech discussion site. Daily flamewars of "bush sucks no usa sucks no you suck arr" pretty much did in any credibility this site had.
Sure it was always pro-linux, anti-MSFT, but now it's almost become a little anti-linux. Linux is not, after all, an Apple product.
None of the OSS lumnaries, geek celebs, or major project members post here anymore. I doubt they even read the site anymore. Hell, why should they? CNN.com is more timely for "tech news".
Just to wrap up, there is no "high expectation", "low expectation" nor any other sort of "expectation" for the iPhone, outside of mac-fan world. To everyone else, it's just another cell phone.
Either you are (i)pro-iphone or against it.
Not true. The vast majority don't really give a fuck that a new model of cell phone is coming out. We're sick of hearing about it either way.
No, it is not an argument.
It's an opinion. Is there a problem with that?
And as uncreative as "spoonfuck" and "shit for brains" may be, I don't see how you deserve any better.
It's not like I'm going to put on my thinking cap to tell you off.
You wont even argue logged-in for fear of your precious, precious karma.
PocketTunes (freeware for Palm, PocketPC, etc) has album preview - I haven't played with my new phone enough, but I think the inbuilt windows media player can do this too.
Whee, I can view thumbnails. But its a big deal when Apple does it.
I have a complete browser. It works w/ flash too (is it true the iPhone doesnt?)
Dials or knobs? What the hell is that? The reality distortion field I keep hearing about? Show me a cell phone with dials or knobs.
ALL HEIL iPHONE, THE FIRST CELL PHONE WITHOUT CONFUSING DIALS AND KNOBS! Now you're just being silly.
I have a touchscreen, just like the iPhone. I also have some buttons, so I can use the phone "blind". The iPhone looks like I'm gonna have fun on the highway avoiding the assholes using the thing with two hands while they stare at the screen to see where to put their fingers.
I do wish they'd tweak the UI a little more on my Treo, and toss out any need at all for the stylus. I can use my fingers maybe 99% of the time as it is, though.
I'm not saying the iPhone is bad. I'm just utterly confused as to why its such a big deal. It will not revolutionize anybodys life, and brings nothing new to the table but "image".
Does it make it trivial to synch your data, your email, your bookmarks, your movies, and music? By trivial I mean, no user action, just plug into your computer!
OT, but yeah, my new 700w does. ActiveSync just does it as soon as I plug it in. The old PalmOS based 650 I had, I had to push a button though.
It's kind of a shitty feature, since I have to make sure to weed out all the spam before I plug my phone in to charge, else I have to sort through it there. But then, it's only shitty as a MSFT feature. It's hip and cool for an Apple feature, I'm sure.
As for advertisements, etc. No, I dont see the Treo pushed hard. But every other TV commercial I see is for "the hippest cell phone evar"!!! Like those "music hunter" dudes or whatever.
The build quality thing is debatable. I never had any other phone I owned fall apart or anything, and see no need to improve here. The first gen iPods had some pretty unforgivable (IMO) sound quality issues. I don't see Apple as better than any other player here - though they're certainly seen as such.
You sort of gloss over point 2. I know Apple is viewed as "hip" where everyone else isn't. What I don't get is why. Point 3 is obvious, but why was n-gage such a failure? I submit to you, if it had an Apple logo, it would have succeeded. We both know there's a huge number of people who would be happy with a dried up dog turd in a box, if it was from Apple.
You got two companies, both started in the garage by some dropout hippies. Apple and Microsoft. Today, both companies are huge. Microsoft is huger, sure, but Apple is ginormous huge. Somehow, though, Apple managed to retain it's "small time friendly hippy garage outfit" status. Not only retain it - pass it on to another generation!
It's fascinating. What other company, in any field, has managed to do this?
Good point.
I don't agree with you, so my opinion really should be modded down so nobody can see it.
Why cant you spoonfucks just disagree without calling for everybody to be modded troll?
Mod this flamebait, shit for brains.
Man! This is what I'm talking about.
How does Apple do this? They like convert people into Apple salesmen - like zombies or something.
Look at your post, "chasing the ipod generation", "its the hippest phone ever", etc, etc..
Everybody tries to do this. Apple isn't alone. You dont think PalmOne, Motorola, Erikson, Nokia want to be considered "hip"?
First smartphone to target the market? What the hell was n-gage? You telling me that was pitched to stuffy businessmen to help organize their schedules?
I really don't understand how Apple has this affect.
The device does nothing new, features nothing new, offers nothing new. I can do all of this on my Treo right now. The only new thing is, like you said, "its the hippest phone ever", and nobody will shut up about it.
But just imagine, it wasnt made by Apple - say it was a Motorola, or Erikson, or billy magoo. It's the exact same design, exact same features, exact same software. Would we be talking about it right now?
But who cares? Really. Will it make any difference?
You don't get a copy of the content. You cant download and store the videos. If you suddenly CAN do this, like some sort of Apple/Google alliance to allow downloads only from Macs, that'd be news - big news.
But in the end, who cares if it streamed through flash, H.264, or the image is assembled in realtime by pixies on a lite brite? You're still streaming the same grainy video of some goth chick listing foods she likes.
Shouldn't the inbuilt browser be able to view YouTube anyways?
It is really interesting, from a marketing point of view, how Apple takes things that would be ho-hum for any other brand or company, and suddenly turns it into front page news with the whole "mystery feature" game. They do this over and over and over, and nobody ever seems to catch on.
I mean, realistically, it's just another smartphone in an already overcrowded market. But it's front page news every day.
Would you care if someone posthumously added more copy protection or licensing terms to your VHS machine? You know, that black box you use as a stand for your Xbox 360/wii/whatever?
With on-demand download services like vongo, on-demand video via cable/satellite/whatever, XBox live marketplace, moviebeam, and so on, how much longer do you plan to buy and sell these stupid plastic discs anyways?
I mean, I suddenly have 2 good "built in" options for movies - in high def no less, 360 marketplace, and comcast on-demand. I have way more options you want to consider all the online Vongo-type services.
So whatever rights blah blah blah they can put whatever restrictions on those stupid f*cking plastic discs all they want.
They're just hurting themselves. I'll never burn a video DVD again in my life.
Similarly, I could give two shits how many root kits Sony is putting on CDs these days. What is this, 1992, when I gave a fuck about paying 20 bucks for 10 songs on a 6 inch plastic disc? Gimmeabreakpal.
Even a non-technical person with an ounce of brain will just keep printing until ink stops actually coming out onto the paper.
Does anyone heed the software's guesstimates?
Pleasese
Your post makes me wonder about all this coming mess of more license bullshit.
I set up an embedded tivo-like device. The kernel needs a hardware key to boot. This is ok, the kernel is still v2.
So, once past that and booted, its full of gnu tools, and other GPL3 stuff.
Those tools dont require any hardware key. GCC needs no key. It's stock, and I happily ship the source, etc. Does GPL3 invalidate me using it now? Does the license have that much reach, basically saying "you cant use this software on certain types of hardware?"
I'd almost rather figure out MS licensing v9.0 or whatever the fuck they have now.