Why is it bad "Bad Thing(TM)"? Is it because it's too hard to implement? Too complicated to incorporate in Mozilla because the code was not meant to be expanded this way? Or only because of some holy war based on standards? If it's the first two, I pity the Mozilla team. If it's the third one, even tough I understand, that's not how you win a war.
If the enemy is playing dirty, you have to play dirty too, and beat them with their own severed limbs.:-p
Wow, my post generated a lot of feedback. I myself would rather have a 100% compliant browser without fluffy stuff in it, but what mathers in the end is : does this web page load. And if it doesn't well all the "Mozilla respects the standards" in the world won't save you from having to use IE. I'm not saying that Microsoft is doing the right thing in embracing and extending, I'm only saying that features and market share are what drives the industry, and not standards, even though how very important standards are. If IE can do something the other browsers can't and it's damn usefull (don't give me shit about being poorly implemented, this is a whole other debate), webmasters will target these features. Anyone not implementing these features in their browser is placing itself in the dangerous position of losing users, visibility and ultimately, a job (except the mozilla team, who does this for free of course).
Times have changed, sadly visions and dedication are worth less and less these days. It's a shame. I understand the Mozilla team standing against all things not standard, but if they don't compete on features against Microsoft, then the "war" is already over, with Microsoft laughing it's way back to Redmont.
Only one page not rendering correctly in Mozilla and correctly in IE will make the average user stich to IE. And browsing the net a lot, I've never stumbled across a webpage that I couldn't render with IE. And right now, if it doesn't then I'm probably on the web page of some crazy Linux zealot who doesn't want his webpage to load on IE. And that's not how you win a war. It's by either
a) beating the enemy at it's game and making it better then what they offer
or
b) convincing the 3rd parties to ally with you, not your enemy
And since the Mozilla team consist mostly of part-time voluntary workers and doesn't have a team to evangelize the benefits of Mozilla, then unless this problem is settled, it's better to mimick everything Microsoft does and do it better then them (now that would be a good way for all of you whiners saying that IE is bugriden to prove to the world that you are better than Microsoft and implement their features correctly). Then Mozilla will have a chance to beat IE. Otherwise, it,s gonna be VERY difficult, if not impossible.
I think you're missing the point. People would rather use a browser that has more features (even tought their not w3c standards) then use a browser which won't render some web pages they might encounter.
... some sort combination of Windows, IE, Access, VB Script and IIS, I'm sure they wouldn't have to go public with the annoncement and just hack their way into it. I think that sysadmins should consider insecure data storage in the future in the case of their death.
There is already something a bit like this with the Google toolbar, it's called "Cached Snapshot of Page". If you hit a 404, just right click on the mouse and chose "Cached Snapshot". If google still has the page indexed, then it has a cached copy of the HTML.
Brushes him off??? Crap, Jean Chretien is an ass kissing SOB who can't stand up to any american governement. He's always doing what Bush/Clinton tell's him to do. He's the worst I've seen for a prime minister in Canada. Listen a bit to the news will you? Canada's governement is ass-kissing the United States almost at every opportunity they get! God I'm happy I didn't vote for Jean Chretien! If only a good alternative party to the "Liberal Party" came out, we could kick Chretien and his group out...
...Itanium 2 processor codenamed McKinley that is on schedule... Yea, that's if you forget the part about the first itanium being about a billions years late.:-p
Honestly, I am anxious to see what will come out of this war between AMD and Intel for the desktop market. Too bad they didn't have a comparison between McKinley and AMD's SledgeHammer, since they are destined to the same market.
And I would have posted earlier, but I was slowed down by the slashdot effect!!!:-)))
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Huh? Have you watched the show during the past years? That term has been used for waaaaayyyy long time. Maybe the media even picked the expression up from the show!
Nah, I think you,re going a bit too far. This was typical gouvernement behaviour for an X-Files episode, and should not be treated as anything else as fiction. It may be this see someplaces in the US, but I don't think Carter was trying to do anything else then to show that Mulder was in a pretty bad situation.
> I'm not sure I'd describe it as "lengthy". > How many times did you have to do it before > you finally got the hang of it? I mean, we're > talking about the proverbial single-button > mouse. A la Homer Simpson: mouse goes up, > mouse goes down. Cursor goes up, cursor goes > down.
You see , that's the problem with technically inclined people. I have this problem myself. because we think it's easy to do something for us, and we learned it pretty quick, it must also be easy for others.
Figuring from what the other poster said, if he used a mouse in '84, he must be older than me, and maybe older than you are. He never probably didn't grow up playing games and using computers. I did, and probably you too.
That's why when we first used mouse, it came relatively easy to me. After all, it wasn't totally different from a joystick. Not that much anyway.
I have a father who is really not technically inclined. I mean, we've had a computer for 5 years, and he can't still figure out what's the difference between the files on his computer and the files on an FTP server. Him : "If I erase the file on my computer, can people still access it on the Internet." Me : "Of course, it's on Geocities, you sent it there." No talking about uploading, he wouldn't know. My father is not dumb tough. On the contrary. But, he's 60, didn't have a lot of money when he was young. Didn't get to mess around with a computer before late 80's (and it was on an 8086 with DOS, so Windows is pretty different), and even then, he only used it for WordPerfect and Lotus 123. But when Windows 95 came, he got totally lost. But I had never really messed with any version of Windows before and started using it and found it intuitive and easy to use.
Maybe he was just too used to DOS-like interfaces and hasn't been able to use Windows.
Same thing for that guy with the mouse. Maybe he was too much used to a keyboard, and mouse was totally weird concept to him.
Or then maybe I'm wrong, and my foot is in my mouth right now.
But don't you agree with me at least that these graphs don't look very good? This is the most basic graph in Excel, and it looks bad. They could have used at least curved lines. Or removed the dots on the curves. It seems very amateurish to me. I'm starting to wonder if these are real...
I mean, if you look at the performance charts at end, you'll notice that they are cheap Excel graphs. Personally, if I were as big a company as Matrox I'd use something better than Excel to make graphs. Or at least, they wouldn't be that crappy.
The states have accomplished nothing in court today. This wasn't clever at all, and just plain stupid. If it isn't shown in court, then the judge has to dismiss the idea and not take it into account when making his/her judgement.
They scored no point at all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the judge though less of the states lawyers now.
Last time I checked, Excel was waaaayyyyy bigger than Word and Outlook together, so probably that in OpenOffice the spreadsheet program is a BIG part of the package.
Well, I think that people that are into books rarely reads a book based only on the back of the cover. Sure, a trailer for a movie that costs 7$ (in Canada anyway) and takes two hours (often less) of your time can convince you to go see a movie. But readers make more informed choice about a book. That's probably why I almost never hear someone complain about a book they read was bad, but I always heard people saying how bad a particular movie is. After all, a book can take many more hours to read than a movie to be watched, and cost generally more. I don't really mind wasting 2 hours for a movie, but 5 hours or more for a book, that's a pretty long time wasted if the book is bad.
Since (based on my own observation) people who read books make more thoughtfull choices when buying a book, I think that these kind of Bestsellers list is showing not only is popular, but also what is also decent/good.
Re:see it, help the pro-DMCA, anti-freedom lobby?
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Review: Spiderman
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· Score: 4, Insightful
/%?%$!!"/$$??!/ How come people rate this crap as insightfull, or anything!!! Stop f**king around always complaining about companies do this, and companies do that, they don't want me to pirate their stuff, I can't illegally get the stuff they own for free. Get a life. They have the right because they OWN the product. If you can't get that across you narrow minded stealing anti-everything little brain, then you're going to find like to be VERY LONG and very boring, because you DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL! You said it yourself : unauthorized DVD playback software. It's UNAUTHORIZED. You don't have the right to do it because it infringes copyrights. Whether or not cpopyrights and IP is a good thing is another debate. For the time being, go see the movie, because it's funny, a hell of a good ride and stop whining.
Good, but did the same mistake as Batman did
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Review: Spiderman
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· Score: 3, Interesting
This movie was really great. Really. I think Star Wars is going to have great competition this year in the form of Spider-Man. The only mistake of the Spider-Man flick is the same error that the Batman movies have done : *** SPOILER ALERT, WELL, NOT MUCH OF A ONE, BUT STILL... ****** They kill off the Green Goblin in the end. If they do 2 or 3 other movies, they will probably run out of vilains, like Batman did. Sure, Spider Man has a lot of foes, but do we really want to see Spider-Man vs. Sand Man? **** SPOILER END *****
I just watched the episode. I had been doing the same thing as you and taped the whole season 9. But last week I finished my university semester and had a little too much free time on my hands, so I watched all 15 episodes of season 9 to date. They are pretty good. And don't worry, event tough I knew that the episode was going to end this way, it didn't prepare me totally for the shocking ending.
I use the AOL CD's as glass covers so I don't stain my table. So they have use too. I Like also to throw them around and see them bounce. They make great frisbies!;-)
Okay okay, so I may have been a bit hard on you, I apologize. As for that ellitist attitude, well I dunno where you picked that up, since I'm honestly not that, and yes, I use WinXP too and wouldn't uninstall it even for a new version of Linux. In fact, I don't really like Linux/Unix for what it is right now. But I'm not a MS fanboy either.:-) I just was under the impression you were a Linux groupie. My bad.:-)
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Why is it bad "Bad Thing(TM)"? Is it because it's too hard to implement? Too complicated to incorporate in Mozilla because the code was not meant to be expanded this way? Or only because of some holy war based on standards? If it's the first two, I pity the Mozilla team. If it's the third one, even tough I understand, that's not how you win a war.
:-p
If the enemy is playing dirty, you have to play dirty too, and beat them with their own severed limbs.
Wow, my post generated a lot of feedback. I myself would rather have a 100% compliant browser without fluffy stuff in it, but what mathers in the end is : does this web page load. And if it doesn't well all the "Mozilla respects the standards" in the world won't save you from having to use IE. I'm not saying that Microsoft is doing the right thing in embracing and extending, I'm only saying that features and market share are what drives the industry, and not standards, even though how very important standards are. If IE can do something the other browsers can't and it's damn usefull (don't give me shit about being poorly implemented, this is a whole other debate), webmasters will target these features. Anyone not implementing these features in their browser is placing itself in the dangerous position of losing users, visibility and ultimately, a job (except the mozilla team, who does this for free of course).
Times have changed, sadly visions and dedication are worth less and less these days. It's a shame. I understand the Mozilla team standing against all things not standard, but if they don't compete on features against Microsoft, then the "war" is already over, with Microsoft laughing it's way back to Redmont.
Only one page not rendering correctly in Mozilla and correctly in IE will make the average user stich to IE. And browsing the net a lot, I've never stumbled across a webpage that I couldn't render with IE. And right now, if it doesn't then I'm probably on the web page of some crazy Linux zealot who doesn't want his webpage to load on IE. And that's not how you win a war. It's by either
a) beating the enemy at it's game and making it better then what they offer
or
b) convincing the 3rd parties to ally with you, not your enemy
And since the Mozilla team consist mostly of part-time voluntary workers and doesn't have a team to evangelize the benefits of Mozilla, then unless this problem is settled, it's better to mimick everything Microsoft does and do it better then them (now that would be a good way for all of you whiners saying that IE is bugriden to prove to the world that you are better than Microsoft and implement their features correctly). Then Mozilla will have a chance to beat IE. Otherwise, it,s gonna be VERY difficult, if not impossible.
I think you're missing the point. People would rather use a browser that has more features (even tought their not w3c standards) then use a browser which won't render some web pages they might encounter.
... some sort combination of Windows, IE, Access, VB Script and IIS, I'm sure they wouldn't have to go public with the annoncement and just hack their way into it. I think that sysadmins should consider insecure data storage in the future in the case of their death.
... or someone had a lot of free time on his hands to come up with such an answer. I mean, I'd classify this in the category of useless knowledge.
There is already something a bit like this with the Google toolbar, it's called "Cached Snapshot of Page". If you hit a 404, just right click on the mouse and chose "Cached Snapshot". If google still has the page indexed, then it has a cached copy of the HTML.
Brushes him off??? Crap, Jean Chretien is an ass kissing SOB who can't stand up to any american governement. He's always doing what Bush/Clinton tell's him to do. He's the worst I've seen for a prime minister in Canada. Listen a bit to the news will you? Canada's governement is ass-kissing the United States almost at every opportunity they get! God I'm happy I didn't vote for Jean Chretien! If only a good alternative party to the "Liberal Party" came out, we could kick Chretien and his group out...
:-)
Damn..... I feel better now...
...Itanium 2 processor codenamed McKinley that is on schedule... :-p
:-)))
Yea, that's if you forget the part about the first itanium being about a billions years late.
Honestly, I am anxious to see what will come out of this war between AMD and Intel for the desktop market. Too bad they didn't have a comparison between McKinley and AMD's SledgeHammer, since they are destined to the same market.
And I would have posted earlier, but I was slowed down by the slashdot effect!!!
Insightfull? INSIGHTFULL???? Damn!!! I was trying to be goddamn funny!!!!!
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Does this mean that Gracenote could be infected with the Klez virus or something else, so oulook users should receive text messages, just in case?
Napster on Internet 2? Damn these guys are quick!!!
Huh? Have you watched the show during the past years? That term has been used for waaaaayyyy long time. Maybe the media even picked the expression up from the show!
Nah, I think you,re going a bit too far. This was typical gouvernement behaviour for an X-Files episode, and should not be treated as anything else as fiction. It may be this see someplaces in the US, but I don't think Carter was trying to do anything else then to show that Mulder was in a pretty bad situation.
> I'm not sure I'd describe it as "lengthy".
> How many times did you have to do it before
> you finally got the hang of it? I mean, we're
> talking about the proverbial single-button
> mouse. A la Homer Simpson: mouse goes up,
> mouse goes down. Cursor goes up, cursor goes
> down.
You see , that's the problem with technically inclined people. I have this problem myself. because we think it's easy to do something for us, and we learned it pretty quick, it must also be easy for others.
Figuring from what the other poster said, if he used a mouse in '84, he must be older than me, and maybe older than you are. He never probably didn't grow up playing games and using computers. I did, and probably you too.
That's why when we first used mouse, it came relatively easy to me. After all, it wasn't totally different from a joystick. Not that much anyway.
I have a father who is really not technically inclined. I mean, we've had a computer for 5 years, and he can't still figure out what's the difference between the files on his computer and the files on an FTP server. Him : "If I erase the file on my computer, can people still access it on the Internet." Me : "Of course, it's on Geocities, you sent it there." No talking about uploading, he wouldn't know. My father is not dumb tough. On the contrary. But, he's 60, didn't have a lot of money when he was young. Didn't get to mess around with a computer before late 80's (and it was on an 8086 with DOS, so Windows is pretty different), and even then, he only used it for WordPerfect and Lotus 123. But when Windows 95 came, he got totally lost. But I had never really messed with any version of Windows before and started using it and found it intuitive and easy to use.
Maybe he was just too used to DOS-like interfaces and hasn't been able to use Windows.
Same thing for that guy with the mouse. Maybe he was too much used to a keyboard, and mouse was totally weird concept to him.
Or then maybe I'm wrong, and my foot is in my mouth right now.
But don't you agree with me at least that these graphs don't look very good? This is the most basic graph in Excel, and it looks bad. They could have used at least curved lines. Or removed the dots on the curves. It seems very amateurish to me. I'm starting to wonder if these are real...
I mean, if you look at the performance charts at end, you'll notice that they are cheap Excel graphs. Personally, if I were as big a company as Matrox I'd use something better than Excel to make graphs. Or at least, they wouldn't be that crappy.
The states have accomplished nothing in court today. This wasn't clever at all, and just plain stupid. If it isn't shown in court, then the judge has to dismiss the idea and not take it into account when making his/her judgement.
They scored no point at all. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the judge though less of the states lawyers now.
Last time I checked, Excel was waaaayyyyy bigger than Word and Outlook together, so probably that in OpenOffice the spreadsheet program is a BIG part of the package.
Well, I think that people that are into books rarely reads a book based only on the back of the cover. Sure, a trailer for a movie that costs 7$ (in Canada anyway) and takes two hours (often less) of your time can convince you to go see a movie. But readers make more informed choice about a book. That's probably why I almost never hear someone complain about a book they read was bad, but I always heard people saying how bad a particular movie is. After all, a book can take many more hours to read than a movie to be watched, and cost generally more. I don't really mind wasting 2 hours for a movie, but 5 hours or more for a book, that's a pretty long time wasted if the book is bad.
Since (based on my own observation) people who read books make more thoughtfull choices when buying a book, I think that these kind of Bestsellers list is showing not only is popular, but also what is also decent/good.
/%?%$!!"/$$??!/ How come people rate this crap as insightfull, or anything!!! Stop f**king around always complaining about companies do this, and companies do that, they don't want me to pirate their stuff, I can't illegally get the stuff they own for free. Get a life. They have the right because they OWN the product. If you can't get that across you narrow minded stealing anti-everything little brain, then you're going to find like to be VERY LONG and very boring, because you DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO STEAL! You said it yourself : unauthorized DVD playback software. It's UNAUTHORIZED. You don't have the right to do it because it infringes copyrights. Whether or not cpopyrights and IP is a good thing is another debate. For the time being, go see the movie, because it's funny, a hell of a good ride and stop whining.
This movie was really great. Really. I think Star Wars is going to have great competition this year in the form of Spider-Man. The only mistake of the Spider-Man flick is the same error that the Batman movies have done : *** SPOILER ALERT, WELL, NOT MUCH OF A ONE, BUT STILL... ****** They kill off the Green Goblin in the end. If they do 2 or 3 other movies, they will probably run out of vilains, like Batman did. Sure, Spider Man has a lot of foes, but do we really want to see Spider-Man vs. Sand Man?
**** SPOILER END *****
I just watched the episode. I had been doing the same thing as you and taped the whole season 9. But last week I finished my university semester and had a little too much free time on my hands, so I watched all 15 episodes of season 9 to date.
They are pretty good. And don't worry, event tough I knew that the episode was going to end this way, it didn't prepare me totally for the shocking ending.
I use the AOL CD's as glass covers so I don't stain my table. So they have use too. I Like also to throw them around and see them bounce. They make great frisbies! ;-)
Okay okay, so I may have been a bit hard on you, I apologize. As for that ellitist attitude, well I dunno where you picked that up, since I'm honestly not that, and yes, I use WinXP too and wouldn't uninstall it even for a new version of Linux. In fact, I don't really like Linux/Unix for what it is right now. But I'm not a MS fanboy either. :-) I just was under the impression you were a Linux groupie. My bad. :-)
Anyone but me thought for a second that there was a new DVD version of this bad movie making classic? :-)