GNU/Linux fah how bout RedHat.
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I'm not one to call it Linux or GNU whatever. I run RedHat or Mandrake. A distro is collection of a kernal and lots of tools that are setup according to a set method. The way to run things like for example the location of files on RedHat != the setup used by Debian. Linux is the kernel. Many of the tools are from FSF and are GNU/n. But what I run is RH.
It cost too much money per pound to load the shuttle with all the gear you request of it. A better move would be to have a simple emergency rocket with extra food/air/fuel ready to send up should they discover that the shuttle is unable to return.
An even better option is admit we've got a flawed system and do the sensible thing and abandon it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for manned space flight. But we need to set a real goal. Like Men on Mars by 2020 or bust and then build the needed items like a space elevator, moon base to mine Helium, and a space station that is able to rotate so that we can simulate gravity.
The Space elevator could possibly be built at a cost of $7-15 billion dollars. Each shuttle trip cost.5 billion and can only fly 4 times a year.
The moon base can mine the fuel needed to power nuclear engines for a Mars trip.
A rotating space station is needed to simulate gravity. We are going to have to provide gravity to any one going on this trip. Our past experience on Mir proved that weightlessness is harmful to our bone structure over the long haul.
Ah, but that's the beauty of Open Source - you don't *need* RedHat to give you 2-3 years of support for reasonable cost. You can get that from someone else. If there are enough people like you out there to support a business model that satisfies your needs, then someone will probably start one (if there isn't one already).
Short of a company being formed to write "Red Hat like" code for abandoned older versions how is that going to happen? Your going to have to hope that some small company is going to be able to maintain and if needed write patches for a product that the orignal author/creator/disto no longers supports. Not impossible but not very likely either. Better just to go to another disto all together.
Brute Force. Hardly? Brute force is staping a rocket to your butt and flinging yourself off the planet. This will GENTLY lift you at a modest rate of 200kph. It will take days to get to low orbit 21 days to get to the peak of 100,000 klicks.
This system at first would not lift people. One would assume that once it gets to that point a rescue system would be built into the car. A reentry bell could be attached that one could enter and drop back down to the earth to a splash down over the ocean. If the car is at a high enough point then the car would be in orbit and would likely stay there for the short term. Long enough for the riders to get into the rentry bells and drop back to earth.
I don't have a problem with the under God part. I have more of a problem with the whole thing. Why would a FREE nation need such a pledge?
If we are truly free then are we not free not to pledge or to pledge in any form or fashion that we choose and if we are a free nation the rights we are free to express would mostly guarantee that we are going to be loyal. So what is the point IN the pledge?
A display and the mobo is the hart of a laptop. Laptops are custom built around both. Hard to really do a Roll your own laptop when the chassis isn't standard because the chassis is married to the display panel and the mobo.
The solution is simple don't send anything to anybody that you don't want them to spread around.
Technology gives us more speed and a larger play field but gossip is gossip and it will spread via word of mouth over the backyard fence or on somebody's blog. There is nothing new here except the speed and scope.
And when exactly will you be informed that you are purchasing a printer that has a single supplier for refills? Do you suppose that there will be a big, screaming banner on the box stating that for now and forever you will be raped by overpriced single-source refills? Probably not.
Well I sell/upgrade/repair computers and people ask me all the time "What is the best __________ ?" When they ask *ME* about printers I tell them not to buy Lexmark. I think they are junk anyway. This is just one more issue.
They did it where I used to live because people kept shooting them.
Ok but aren't they more expensive to buy? Wouldn't a shotgun blast destroy an array of LEDs just as easy as a big light blub? Cheaper costs per kilowatt hour of power I can see but how are they bullet proof?
I lived through most of that. I saw man walk on the moon when I was 4 years old. I can remember it barely. My older brother who was 10 years old was trying to take poloraid pictures of the TV. Somewhere in my basement I still have them. When I was a kid I thought that we would be on Mars by 2000. Now I seriously wonder if we(the US) will get to Mars or even back to the Moon in my lifetime. China will get to the Moon in the next 5-10 years and maybe that will wake us up.
Yes, and In Star Trek V a real stupid body builder dressed up as a Klingon decloaks and for target practice shoots up Pioneer X. Maybe it was a Voyager probe but I was thinking that it was Pioneer in Star Drek V.
Kleenex is in my dictionary as a proper noun. Google.com may wish to sue but I don't think that they can get away with it. The most I think they could do is have a second definition as a proper noun listed. Which this online site might allready have.
I want NASA's budget cut because they have failed to provide a ship that meets the original design parameters.
Yeah, if we just get rid of all their mechanical engineers, I'll bet they could build much more reliable shuttles!
You've missed my point. Most of the downthread got it you didn't. I don't oppose spending money for space exploration. I oppose WASTING money. Shuttle BY DESIGN can't meet the goal is was built to do. Why the hell do when spend HALF A FUCKING BILLION to ship 7 people up there when the russian's can do it for 10 mil per 3 people. DO THE FUCKING MATH!
As for the "we can't do research on soyuz arguement." Well NO. But isn't that why we are building a space station? What research on this shuttle mission was so fucking pressing that it couldn't wait until ISS was finished!?! Hell it's only.5 billion and 7 lives being risked.
Most notably the shuttle's turn around time and payload size. Both of which were cut way back from the original goals.
Yeah. Bastards. NASA is the only organization that doesn't meet initial estimates. Unlike, say, software companies.
No one else *builds* shuttles, you know? It's a little bit hard to *make* accurate estimates. If they simply underestimated everything, would *that* make you happy?
Oh bull. If engineers couldn't produce correct estimates then NOTHING would get built except by luck. Don't confuse politics and engineering. Anyone with training can look at the shuttle and can see that it couldn't do what was hyped by the NASAcrate's. NASA tried to push it and lost the Challenger because of it.
You're cranky because of an accident a *decade*? Hell, Ford would *kill* for that kind of record, and they have a *much* easier task to do.
It is only an accident a decade because of the low launch time. I own a Ford Explorer and drive it about 3 times a day. At a 1 in 50 accident rate.(Shuttle's current rate) I should be killed in a "castropic loss of the vehichle" every 3-4 weeks. Anybody want a buy used Ford? I stick with Ford's real saftey record even WITH firestone tires.
The lives lost are essentially irrelevant. Maybe in a couple of hundred million years of shuttle flights, it'll measure up to some of the *other* things that we've done, like WWII or Vietnam. Why do you think they used only military personnel on the shuttle for years and years?
I'll remember that when I find you bleeding to death in your rolled over Ford Explorer. So life is only worth something when it is lost in large numbers? So I can KILL you and no one will care? Oooh don't tempt me.
As for being a normal rocket and cost -- sure, it would have cost less. OTOH, the cost *per flight* would have been higher, because the vehicle wouldn't be reusable. There's a *reason* they built the shuttle, laddie buck.
Others down topic have allready shown you the math. Go to radio shack and buy a calculator. Shuttle!=cheap
This is pork barrel spending at it worst hiding behind science and patriotism.
Yeah! We could *obviously* put the money into pursuits *far* more productive for the human race, like blowing up Iraqis! Are you stupid?
Blowing up Iragis is a differnt topic. You might find I agree with you. You might not. Don't assume. We both can spell assume.
As I allready said. I'm not against space exploration. I would like to see Man reach mars before I die. When I was a kid(in the 70s) I was sure that we would be there by now. Budget cuts AND pork spending what little we do have have made that most likely NOT to occur in my lifetime(or perhaps very late in it). My problem is not with Space travel it is with the shuttle and NASA. I am hoping that highliftsystems.com will get funding and build the great elevator that will finally let us climb out of this gravity hole on a regular basis.
Am I stupid? No I couldn't possibly live up to your fine example. I'll try harder.
Well If they build a space elevator.....
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Talk about Retarded logic. So you would give them a blank check? I want NASA's budget cut because they have failed to provide a ship that meets the original design parameters. Most notably the shuttle's turn around time and payload size. Both of which were cut way back from the original goals.
NASA in my opinion is mishandling our money. This has been my opinion for almost 20 years. Two shuttle accidents just prove my point. Ignoring for the moment the lives lost: If this had been a normal rocket we had lost then we would not have lost so much money. The financial loss would have been close to what would have been spent anyway.
If the shuttle flights were occurring more often then it would have been comparable with loosing say an airliner. Annoying but within expectations. The number of flights would pay for a shuttle loss quicker, maybe enough to be factored into the costs. As it is we have lost a very expensive craft used for very rare missions. 5-6 launches a year is a sorry waste of my tax money for a system designed as if it was running 50 times a year. This is pork barrel spending at it worst hiding behind science and patriotism.
Hoping for "Freak Accident"
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I think some NASA contractors are hoping that they can lay the blame on space debris or even another contractor rather then take the blame themselves.
Shuttle is and allways was a dangerous overrated toy. It is robbing the public of money that could be better used and taking the lives of men and women that could be doing more useful work then silly tests in space and housesitting a useless spacestation.
If we aren't going to colonize space, the moon, or mars then keep people out of it. Or let those who want to go there PAY for it themselves.
Sorry I've allways thought that the Celeron 500 was slow. The mobo in the thing is an old Intel CA810A. It's a slow processor with a slow chipset and only 128mb of ram. As I really don't run X on it that is plenty fast. I use it mostly for an samba server. But for any GUI it is slow. It was in 1999 and it is today in 2003. Esp when you are used to running a P-IV 1.8 ghz that is overclocked at about 2.2.
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I'm not one to call it Linux or GNU whatever. I run RedHat or Mandrake. A distro is collection of a kernal and lots of tools that are setup according to a set method. The way to run things like for example the location of files on RedHat != the setup used by Debian. Linux is the kernel. Many of the tools are from FSF and are GNU/n. But what I run is RH.
It cost too much money per pound to load the shuttle with all the gear you request of it. A better move would be to have a simple emergency rocket with extra food/air/fuel ready to send up should they discover that the shuttle is unable to return.
.5 billion and can only fly 4 times a year.
An even better option is admit we've got a flawed system and do the sensible thing and abandon it.
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for manned space flight. But we need to set a real goal. Like Men on Mars by 2020 or bust and then build the needed items like a space elevator, moon base to mine Helium, and a space station that is able to rotate so that we can simulate gravity.
The Space elevator could possibly be built at a cost of $7-15 billion dollars. Each shuttle trip cost
The moon base can mine the fuel needed to power nuclear engines for a Mars trip.
A rotating space station is needed to simulate gravity. We are going to have to provide gravity to any one going on this trip. Our past experience on Mir proved that weightlessness is harmful to our bone structure over the long haul.
Ah, but that's the beauty of Open Source - you don't *need* RedHat to give you 2-3 years of support for reasonable cost. You can get that from someone else. If there are enough people like you out there to support a business model that satisfies your needs, then someone will probably start one (if there isn't one already).
Short of a company being formed to write "Red Hat like" code for abandoned older versions how is that going to happen? Your going to have to hope that some small company is going to be able to maintain and if needed write patches for a product that the orignal author/creator/disto no longers supports. Not impossible but not very likely either. Better just to go to another disto all together.
The problem with filters at the ISP/Mail Server is that one persons spam is anothers desired mail. How do correct for this?
Brute Force. Hardly? Brute force is staping a rocket to your butt and flinging yourself off the planet. This will GENTLY lift you at a modest rate of 200kph. It will take days to get to low orbit 21 days to get to the peak of 100,000 klicks.
This system at first would not lift people. One would assume that once it gets to that point a rescue system would be built into the car. A reentry bell could be attached that one could enter and drop back down to the earth to a splash down over the ocean. If the car is at a high enough point then the car would be in orbit and would likely stay there for the short term. Long enough for the riders to get into the rentry bells and drop back to earth.
Coding under the influence.
Honest officer I was just fueling my laptop.
RTFA! :-D
Sorry I could not help myself.
It isn't just IBM the whole industry is starting to put out crap. Everyone wants cheap PCs and you take a hit on the quality when you go for that.
I don't have a problem with the under God part. I have more of a problem with the whole thing. Why would a FREE nation need such a pledge?
If we are truly free then are we not free not to pledge or to pledge in any form or fashion that we choose and if we are a free nation the rights we are free to express would mostly guarantee that we are going to be loyal. So what is the point IN the pledge?
It is no surprise that a socialist wrote it.
A display and the mobo is the hart of a laptop. Laptops are custom built around both. Hard to really do a Roll your own laptop when the chassis isn't standard because the chassis is married to the display panel and the mobo.
Sounds like a lamer idea to me. I too can't RTFA.
Reread the post you nit.
I said "There is nothing new here except the speed and scope."
Gossip has been around from the beginning of time.
I'm saying the same thing you are saying.
The solution is simple don't send anything to anybody that you don't want them to spread around.
Technology gives us more speed and a larger play field but gossip is gossip and it will spread via word of mouth over the backyard fence or on somebody's blog. There is nothing new here except the speed and scope.
And when exactly will you be informed that you are purchasing a printer that has a single supplier for refills? Do you suppose that there will be a big, screaming banner on the box stating that for now and forever you will be raped by overpriced single-source refills? Probably not.
Well I sell/upgrade/repair computers and people ask me all the time "What is the best __________ ?" When they ask *ME* about printers I tell them not to buy Lexmark. I think they are junk anyway. This is just one more issue.
It allways takes longer then 30 sec to get that far.
Will be more annoying the US version. If you click on him he will spilt open and out will come out a smalller one. Click on him - same thing.
Vertial Matrojshka clippy.
They did it where I used to live because people kept shooting them.
Ok but aren't they more expensive to buy? Wouldn't a shotgun blast destroy an array of LEDs just as easy as a big light blub? Cheaper costs per kilowatt hour of power I can see but how are they bullet proof?
I lived through most of that. I saw man walk on the moon when I was 4 years old. I can remember it barely. My older brother who was 10 years old was trying to take poloraid pictures of the TV. Somewhere in my basement I still have them. When I was a kid I thought that we would be on Mars by 2000. Now I seriously wonder if we(the US) will get to Mars or even back to the Moon in my lifetime. China will get to the Moon in the next 5-10 years and maybe that will wake us up.
Yes, and In Star Trek V a real stupid body builder dressed up as a Klingon decloaks and for target practice shoots up Pioneer X. Maybe it was a Voyager probe but I was thinking that it was Pioneer in Star Drek V.
...the Klingon bird of prey decloak, DUCK!
Baseball Bat:Hello Kitty!
Kitty: Hello Basebal*crunch*
Baseball Bat: Hello dead Kitty!
Kleenex is in my dictionary as a proper noun. Google.com may wish to sue but I don't think that they can get away with it. The most I think they could do is have a second definition as a proper noun listed. Which this online site might allready have.
You've missed my point. Most of the downthread got it you didn't. I don't oppose spending money for space exploration. I oppose WASTING money. Shuttle BY DESIGN can't meet the goal is was built to do. Why the hell do when spend HALF A FUCKING BILLION to ship 7 people up there when the russian's can do it for 10 mil per 3 people. DO THE FUCKING MATH!
As for the "we can't do research on soyuz arguement." Well NO. But isn't that why we are building a space station? What research on this shuttle mission was so fucking pressing that it couldn't wait until ISS was finished!?! Hell it's only
Oh bull. If engineers couldn't produce correct estimates then NOTHING would get built except by luck. Don't confuse politics and engineering. Anyone with training can look at the shuttle and can see that it couldn't do what was hyped by the NASAcrate's. NASA tried to push it and lost the Challenger because of it.
It is only an accident a decade because of the low launch time. I own a Ford Explorer and drive it about 3 times a day. At a 1 in 50 accident rate.(Shuttle's current rate) I should be killed in a "castropic loss of the vehichle" every 3-4 weeks. Anybody want a buy used Ford? I stick with Ford's real saftey record even WITH firestone tires.
I'll remember that when I find you bleeding to death in your rolled over Ford Explorer. So life is only worth something when it is lost in large numbers? So I can KILL you and no one will care? Oooh don't tempt me.
Others down topic have allready shown you the math. Go to radio shack and buy a calculator. Shuttle!=cheap
Blowing up Iragis is a differnt topic. You might find I agree with you. You might not. Don't assume. We both can spell assume.
As I allready said. I'm not against space exploration. I would like to see Man reach mars before I die. When I was a kid(in the 70s) I was sure that we would be there by now. Budget cuts AND pork spending what little we do have have made that most likely NOT to occur in my lifetime(or perhaps very late in it). My problem is not with Space travel it is with the shuttle and NASA. I am hoping that highliftsystems.com will get funding and build the great elevator that will finally let us climb out of this gravity hole on a regular basis.
Am I stupid? No I couldn't possibly live up to your fine example. I'll try harder.
Do they get the money? HIGHLIFTSYSTEM.COM
Talk about Retarded logic. So you would give them a blank check? I want NASA's budget cut because they have failed to provide a ship that meets the original design parameters. Most notably the shuttle's turn around time and payload size. Both of which were cut way back from the original goals.
NASA in my opinion is mishandling our money. This has been my opinion for almost 20 years. Two shuttle accidents just prove my point. Ignoring for the moment the lives lost: If this had been a normal rocket we had lost then we would not have lost so much money. The financial loss would have been close to what would have been spent anyway.
If the shuttle flights were occurring more often then it would have been comparable with loosing say an airliner. Annoying but within expectations. The number of flights would pay for a shuttle loss quicker, maybe enough to be factored into the costs. As it is we have lost a very expensive craft used for very rare missions. 5-6 launches a year is a sorry waste of my tax money for a system designed as if it was running 50 times a year. This is pork barrel spending at it worst hiding behind science and patriotism.
I think some NASA contractors are hoping that they can lay the blame on space debris or even another contractor rather then take the blame themselves.
Shuttle is and allways was a dangerous overrated toy. It is robbing the public of money that could be better used and taking the lives of men and women that could be doing more useful work then silly tests in space and housesitting a useless spacestation.
If we aren't going to colonize space, the moon, or mars then keep people out of it. Or let those who want to go there PAY for it themselves.
Sorry I've allways thought that the Celeron 500 was slow. The mobo in the thing is an old Intel CA810A. It's a slow processor with a slow chipset and only 128mb of ram. As I really don't run X on it that is plenty fast. I use it mostly for an samba server. But for any GUI it is slow. It was in 1999 and it is today in 2003. Esp when you are used to running a P-IV 1.8 ghz that is overclocked at about 2.2.