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Battlestar Galactica to Return
Chris Curtin writes "Looks like SciFi channel is redoing the classic series! I don't know about a female Starbuck but it might be interesting." I can't picture a Galactica without Lorne Green. So long as they don't bring back that stupid robot dog, it might be okay.
No Dirk Benedict?
Lorne Green. Who is Loren Green?
Yay! Pointless nostalgia!
Since there has never been one with anyone by that name.
The one with Lorne Greene was enjoyable though.
As long as they use their one special effect (launching the fighters out of the tube) at least 30 times an episode, I'll be happy.
No, really.
..........FULL STOP.
Hope they have a robot dog. A well done robot dog. Earlier versions of the robot dog, or of robots in general have soured the idea for most science fiction stories. Don't watch the classics! Down with robot dogsploitation!
And they are redoing it rather than letting it die the sad lonely death it rightfully deserved. That should give you an idea of the magnitude of creative talent that will be directed at this project.
So, now that everyone has hated the past two Star Wars movies, the bar should be much lower.
Come on. They build a HUGE battle ship in space with modern systems and sensors all around, but they can't make a dog as good as SONY Corporation.
What they need is dog who is half-robot, half-real-dog in order to create a ethically themed program for us 21st century viewers. (Don't tell me I am some kind of cheap-assed 1970's viewer.)
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That's like re-doing Barberella with Ben Affleck in the title role.
I mean, Starbuck was the womanizer - the fighter pilot stereotype. I can see writing female pilots to play off the stereotype, or rewriting some of the tremendously shallow female characters of the show (Athena, Cassiopaea), but Starbuck?
Worse/Better Analogy: It's like remaking the A-Team with J-Lo as Face. (March 1 is "Let's Pick on Dirk Benedict Day")
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Actually, that annoying thing was a dagit
It wasn't crap... I think they need to improve a little on some of their interpretations, though...
:)
My biggest criticism of BSG has been (as with many sci-fi programs) that they speak English but come up with their own units of measurement (centons, etc.). Kudos to them for trying to make it interesting by creating everything unique to the series, but sometimes it was just hokey.
I have to admit, though - seeing the Cylon in costume on an episode of (and, I believe, the opening credits to) the A-Team, having a brief exchange with Dirk Benedict, was priceless.
I think that if a scifi writer is going to allow some "inaccuracies" in (like the English language) they need to be consistent and talk about minutes and seconds and parsecs and lightyears, too... Just my opinion.
That's my purse! I don't know you! -- Bobby Hill
I can't picture a Galactica without Loren Green.
Well now we have Lauren Green, I can stand to watch her all day!
Also, I hope the wardrobe departments continue the Science Fiction media tradition, tighter clothes and less of them on the chicks please. Stop underestimating slutty so much and PLEASE higher heels!
Eve Fairbanks says I drive a hybrid!LOL
Boogie Nights vs Battlestar Galactica
... Dirk!
Dirk Diggler Benedict
Action
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
I guess the fact that the Cylons couldn't hit a planet at 500 feet was the only things that kept the humans alive.
You can tell a great deal about the character of a man by observing those who hate him.
Revamping old characters will get you no where but flocks of viewers still living in the past. Deflect from the old, create the new.
I hope Sony doesn't pay for Aibo product placement.
Kick ass space ships, evil robots, cool guys, and Hot Chicks! What more good a 12yo boy ask for!! :)
Would replace Dirk Benedict as Starbuck, of course.
How fast is a 'warp' in Star Trek again?
Back on topic though, I'd be happy to watch a well done remake of BSG, so I have my hopes.
I want a new world. I think this one is broken.
The fact that a production companys creativity has dried up so much that they have to remake a mediocre sci-fi program (and spend all the money on special effects no doubt) is very sad.
I would imagine that every year there will be thousands media graduates and new creative writers coming onto the market who would love to have a pop at a large scale production like this.
Either; the big companies are so scared at taking a risk that they just tart-up the same old crap, or all these new brains on the market are not up to the job (unlikley)
when something slightly new and fresh comes along in this niche marketplace (e.g. Farscape) the public lap it up (until it gets cancelled)
These people need to remember how to take risks
. . . and when you can build a better robot dog while living in a spacefaring refugee camp, I'd like to take a look at it.
But seriously, do you all inject these ridiculously awful and often disrespectful spelling errors as a part of some nefarious plan, or can you possibly be that stupid?
All kings is mostly rapscallions. -Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn
The real question is, will the new version have all of the thinly disguised mormon doctrine like the original did?
h tml or http://www.lib.msu.edu/lorenze1/bg.htm
See http://www.proaxis.com/~sherlockfam/art5.html or http://home.earthlink.net/~billotto/Mormon_N_BSG.
or anywhere else you can google up from "battlestar galactica" and "mormon".
But standards are mostly good today, at least for costumes and special effects, the other day I finally saw the first version of Dune, and compared with the miniserie it looked... well, old, and different from the book in other aspects
I was wondering why Sci-Fi channel started re-airing the series..trying to segway into their re-make. I used to watch it as a kid and was so blown away, now I'm embarrassed to see it (ok, it was entertaining)..I remember how excited I was when I could get my Commodore 64 to make the Cylon voice.
They have run out new ideas for TV programs already, in less than 100years, now all we have to look forward to are more re-runs of the same old (paid for) shows all because TV companies won't take risks on new material.
There are millions of talented writers,authors,actors,musicians etc etc all hungry for the chance at getting their work out to the public and yet TV firms still keep re-using the same old stock formulas/actors until we become sick of them
Oh how far we have travelled in 100years of TV/Cinema when even kids are sick to death of old reruns
Is there no ambition or willingness left in the television/film business to create new and inspiring shows/stories that people will replay in generations to come as examples of pioneering work ?
if todays television is anything to go by i guess not
Does this mean the Sci-Fi channel will start playing reruns of the original BSG again?
There were some things I enjoyed about the series, but sometimes it was a little too off the wall. Hopefully the new series won't have to reuse the same space battle scenes in every single episode.
Dan East
Better known as 318230.
Who hears the Comic Book Store Guy in my head as I read all of these Lorne Greene corrections?
Worst. Remake. Ever.
...you may like seeing them replace the dog with Ein from Cowboy Bebop! :)
Plucky little corgi w/ l33t h4x0r sk1llz.
Only in slashdot are posts of solidarity modded at -1 Redundant, while posts of antagonism are modded as -1 Flamebait.
My question is Richard Hatch going to have anyhting to do with this? As hokey as the original show was, Herr Hatch's meglomanical impulses were held in check, but now, as friends who have interacted with him have told me, his ego has no bounds when it comes to "his" show.
The poor quality of BSG is totally obvious to all but the most nostalgic who enjoyed it only because of their age. It is like "Goonies" in this regard. The characters were cardboard and plots formulaic and derivative. I was eleven, the perfect age for this series, when it premiered and even then its crappiness was apparent. I'll never forget how they re-used the same Dykstra-created footage from the pilot over and over again. "Let's fly down to the ice planet!" followed by yet another insert of the ships flying down to the DESERT planet from the pilot. Remaking this is ludicrous and demonstrates the total lack of imagination of the Sci Fi channel.
Syntax error: loose != lose, affect != effect, then!=than
Bring the ragtag fugitive fleet back! Just keep the psy stuff out of it. Make it SciFi not Fantasy.
Me and my bro had all of the toys. We had the Vipers that actually shot the missile. YEAH! Of course with in a day we had lost them!
Gorkman
Which one was Loren Green?
And is there even any point to criticizing spelling on the Internet any more?
We will get a whole new generation of crap-ola.
warp speed is a little different. when they define warp speed in ST, it's done in relation to a real established measure (light years). also, warp speed as a term in sci-fi probably predates star trek (too lazy to bother to try to find out).
my pet machine
I've never seen the series, but I'd really liked the first two movies.
And be it just for the Galactica simply being the best designed starship out there. It beats not only the Enterprise/Voyager (not that difficult, granted) but also the mighty star destroyers.
Well, not that I would treat Galactica for (true) Star Wars if I had to, but given the horror Lucas createt with his latest two excrements, I guess a remade Galactica will not be able to undercut this. So yes, one could look forward to this.
P.S.: What a about a remake of "Buck Rogers" with Pamela Anderson as Buckine Rogers" ? widiwidiwidi
Let's review:
1. Cancel Farscape because of money.
2. Run non-SF crap like Crossing over and Dream
Team (and soon Scare Tactics).
2. Spend tons of money on Spielberg to do Taken.
3. Spend tons of money on a show that was NEVER
any good (Battlestar Galactica).
I'll be boycotting BSG like I did Taken.
Anyone remember when MTV played music videos? Same thing is happening with SciFi. At some point seing actual science fiction will be a rare oddity on SciFi.
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Evil Cylons, death-destruction-n-mayem, and, of course, scantily clad hot chicks, would make this a winner. However, I'm betting we get the full Berman/Braga politically-correct painty-waist white wash.
Well, you didn't spend a few seconds checking that nobody else had made exactly the same comment.
Godddamn it! This is going to be such crap! This year we cancelled what was looking to be the best sci-fi show ever. Unless we are totally stupid, which we apparently are, our first priority should be figuring out a place that will pick up that show.
For me it won't be the same because Maren Jensen won't be there as Athena - it wasn't a major role in the series - but I went to high school with her so the series had a different slant for me ;-)
Have you compiled your kernel today??
"It's the gay robots of Star Wars vs. the kick-ass robots of Battlestar Galactica!"
This news is at least a year old! This is the 25th Year Anniversary of the original series. This is just a mini-series. This is going to suck! Nobody likes what they have done. There are SEVERAL petitions to stop this from airing! The fans and Richard Hatch (Appolo from the series) have been trying to get a continuation of the original series. Richard Hatch has written 4 books continuing the saga. This site is a great place to get the information on the new mini series.
Where to start. There is no more 12 colonies on 12 planets. There is 12 colonies on 1 planet. The cylons weren't created a reptilian race. The cylons were created by the humans to fight each other. All the characters are pale shadows of themselves. Anything that made them look and act like a hero is gone. Starbuck & Boomer are both now woman. Mr. Moore turned this once great show into a social propaganda engine. Don't expect this to be anything like the original because he is basing this on the the original Battlestar Galactica movie which was the first few episodes of the show and does have a lot of the character development.
At the next eco-hypocrisy-meeting, count the private jets used to get to the meeting. Should be interesting to see that
I think Comic book guy said it best: "Loren Greene's death pose. Best...death...ever!"
...can be found here. (Summary: he pans it; quote: " This remake is a disaster and will be the END of the line for this property.")
I hate to say it, but what an absolutely awfull show. It was embarassingly bad. Oh the horror. I'd rather see Dr. Who reruns. (Actually I would like to see Dr. Who reruns.) But beyond being a really, really bad show, this is proof positive that no one in the entertainment biz has an original idea. Redo a really, really bad SciFi show from the 70's like this. They might as well redo Lost in Space or Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. (I better be careful, don't want to give them any ideas.) Ballestar Gallactica... oh the humanity.
Instead of making more Farscape episodes, they're going to waste their money on a show that sucked a lot with horrible special effects, bad acting and dull story lines. Thanks Sci-Fi channel. You guys suck ass.
I remember "Galactica" from my youth, but I just remember the spaceships zooming around. I was like 7 or so, so I don't remember much. I was excited when they were going to bring it back...but then, we don't speak of "Galactica 1980." (My God! It's been over 20 years)
When I went back in the last few years and caught it on SciFi, I was surprised how detailed the series was--the polictical infighting, the "civilian control of the military" overtones, etc.
The new script sounds like it picks up on its legacy, and expands on it immencely.
Remember: twenty-five years ago, SciFi was not nearly as generally accepted as it is today. There is such diversity out there now, and the audiences are much more mature. It could be said that it is much more accepted. So, more sophisticated plotlines can be accepted.
Looks like someone else is thinking the same thing.
That "stupid robot dog" was the best part!
Velgarcarb, man!!!
blakespot
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lovely. They canned Farscape for this crap? Next you know, they'll be doing crap like Candid Camera (http://www.scifi.com/scaretactics/), dream analysis (http://www.scifi.com/dreamteam/), turn some bad made-for-tv movies into a series (http://www.scifi.com/tremors/), give Adrian Paul another show to suck in (http://www.scifi.com/tracker/) and probably some crappy show based on "Chariots of the Gods" (http://www.chariotsofthegods.com/).
I am _so_ glad that there is a new Science-Fiction-based tv channel being created. Never thought I'd see the day. I used to watch SciFi all the time. Now? One hour, once a week.
Watch Farscape. Tell your friends. The "We're So Screwed" Trilogy started last night. It'll replay this weekend.
"Sometimes a woman is a kind of religion, she can save your soul & set you free from all your sins" - Bad Examples
Why did they cancel Farscape, a perfectly good SF series, only to redo BSG and show more Stargate? And not only that, what was the Sci-Fi channel showing Braveheart, yes that Braveheart, for? I like Mel and all but Braveheart has nothing to do with SF. I think someone needs to tell whoever is running this channel to ignore ratings and show quality stuff.
They made a new BSG starting when they arrived at earth, it lasted only about 6 episodes before it died.
Will this be a remake and start from the attack on the colonies, or start with the arrival at earth?
Or will this start at the cylon attack on earth?
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They're so bankrupt of ideas they're starting to remake shows that sucked. On the bright side, it probably can't be any worse than the original.
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Loren Greene is the new female Adama.....
I mean, in the last series it took them 20 years, and a weedy space albino, to figure out that if they run for Earth then the Cylons can just hang back and fry them and our mostly harmless selves when contact's made. What's a two decade wait to a galactic empire of robots? How's about this time we organise an online petition to tell those dumbass Galacticans to stay the hell away from Earth?
Also, there's the question of their immigration status. Now, they can't really claim to be asylum seekers 'cos they started the war with the Cylons in the first place by being a big bunch of Buttinskis and not letting the Cylons subjugate a vassal race as they saw fit (subjugation's kinda the point in being Galactic Overlords after all...) It'd be funny of they got to Earth and the Department of Homeland Security just stuck them in a camp.
Thinking about it that way, the smartest thing we could do when the Galactican's arrive is stick them in a camp. Then when the Cylons turn up we cosy up to them and point out that our most powerful nations are those with the strongest rule of law, and by the way have you thought about extraditing the Galacticans to Cylon as war criminals? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they commit genocide when they destroyed a planet in the movie? "Oh, it was just an 'accident', was it? Well I'm very sure that if you're innocent then you'll have nothing to fear at trial. On Cylon."
Then we're well in with our new alien masters, obviously being a different, more pragmatic breed of humanity and a bright shining future awaits humanity as the Cylons' premier client race.
It's what I'd do.
One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors - Plato
I never noticed this, but if you listen carefully to that sound that thing makes, it sounds a lot like "Jar Jar....Jar Jar"
Coincidence, I think not.
Wait a minute, that chain of coffee shops has nothing to do with Battlestar Galactica? Who knew? Damn, now I have to sell my stock. Send in John Ashcroft!
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
I'm all for NT 4.0 seeing as they how bad they suck, but it would be a bit funny if they said they ran BEOS or something like that *grin*.
Maybe a poll would be good,
option D. Cylons are just Cowboy Neal in Metal-Drag
I only look human.
My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
Oh, posh. Television is an advertising medium. If it won't make money, no one is going to put it on air. If you want somethng original, go read a book or find a theater. They can be produced with less financial risk.
Besides, being original is hard. But, from the looks of your post, you know that.
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Frack Lucifer and frack the cylons.
"I don't think it's selfish, to eat defenseless shellfish." -NOFX
I liked the robot dog. I remember when I was kid wanting one of my own.
As to hollywood not having any creativity, what else is new. Warner bro's did how many cat people movies. I don't see anyone complaining about the Startrek pictures. Oh theres the ever popular Starwars, boy that broke new ground in narrative fiction.
To the people that think a woman cant be as conniving and slimey as the original starbuck character, I guess you just don't get out much.
Crash
I'm all for a female Starbuck, so long as she too is a womanizer. (Yes, I have the typical fantasies of a straight male.)
Sorry... Bad wordplay puns are a reflexive reaction.
Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
The link has a table that lists speeds from 1/4 impulse through to warp 10. It tells you how fast that is in km/hr , relative to light speed, and how long it would take you to travel across the federation (20 light years) at that rate.
I used to love the show - that is, before some of the toys were discontinued due to their "you'll shoot your eye out!" spring-loaded missile launchers.
But here's what I really want to see: scene in the ship lounge: "10 Backward"?
(Starbuck just excused herself to go to the bathroom)
Anonymous Shipmate: "Hey, is that your coffee? Can I finish it?"
Apollo: "No, that's Starbuck's Coffee!"
rotfl . . .
Because Baywatch got the "relax, turn your brain off, and just cruise" thing right, whereas Cleopatra 2525 couldn't decide if it wanted to be blonde or not. (Blonde defined for this purpose as "needs instructions on breathing".)
Sometimes it's not just the muscles-and-bimbos thing, it's the atmosphere. Baywatch was a success for the same reason The Fall Guy and The Dukes of Hazzard were successes. The formula was much like drinking a relaxing beer after work. It's no mystery to me why such series do best if given the Friday night slots, when everyone is sick of their 40 hour work week and just wants to vegetate for a while. Hell, I watched 'em myself, mainly for that reason -- they were relaxing and undemanding, without being completely dull. Crap TV if analyzed for content, but great for unwinding at the end of the workweek.
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
They cancel the last season of Farscape and blow their money on THIS!?
It's official. I hate the Sci-fi channel.
Democrats or Republicans. They are both taking us to the same place and they are not afraid of us anymore.
That SciFi would be spinning out a 25 y.o. retread when they have fresh, creative series like Farscape is pathetic. They're wary of anything new, perhaps because one flop can end an executive's career. It is a system designed to smother creativity. Remember that the original Star Trek was almost a 2-season job, then limped to 3.
:) I'm seriously considering boycotting the whole damn network for promoting crap like "Crossing Over With John Edward" in preference to new, innovative series, Stargate being the exception. But should be blame them for reaching for the easy buck? I don't know.
A friend and I were just discussing BG as a golden example of old hokey TV. What's next, a Fantasy Island remake?
Anyway, I wouldn't blame the production companies that pitch new ideas and are shot down, but the lumbering networks that choose the same formula over and over. Perhaps too one should look at the advertisers. So many acclaimed series are coming out of a private network I don't subscribe to (HBO) that something is going on here. (Sopranos, Band of Brothers, Six Feet Under, Sex In The City, etc. Quick, name equivalent ad-driven TV creations.)
And then, there's always the audience. ST:DS9 was the only one of the modern series to attempt a serious departure from formula, and was not widely accepted by audiences looking for, I suppose, the comfort food of the old style. (It looks like Enterprise is twitching for something new; we'll see if it works; but I'd rather flesh out a whole new universe in the uneven but ingenious Farscape.)
Did I mention I'm pissed at SciFi for dropping Farscape?
I mean he's Lorne, and he's.... oh well...
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
...but does anyone recall the actual plotline of the movie (or was it a feature length pilot). "The cylons are dangerous", say some. "Nah, lets be friends" say most. "Nuke em" say Lorne Greene's character. All those that tried to get a peace deal and, er, waited for UN resolution dead, kapput. Only the hawkish Battlestar Galactica folk got away. I remember a scene with lots of folks dancing round a "peace" garden being blown up by those evil chromium critters.
I don't think you need to be an editor of Social Text magazine to see the parallels between that and a Certain Real World Situation currently hanging in the balance.
was some of the best idle time in college! Now if we could only get back Honeymooners/TwilightZone/StarTrek we'd be set
The Cylons are obviously related to the indians in Mark Twain's "Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offences." I encourage any fans of literature, or the cinema, to read this. Yes, way back then, the bad guys were notoriously bad aims.
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Here's a link I found to some sort of essay about this: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jparsons/twain/coope
This work of Twain's is found in many Twain anthologies and other collections.
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
Granted, it wasn't the SciFi channel that did this, but... Remember what happened when 'Dinotopia' made the transition from a single 2-hour made-for-TV flick to a series? The movie version was weak enough, but showed lots of potential if they could have gotten better writing.
The series flopped after (barely) getting through four or so episodes. Why? A complete cast change. None of the original actors got used, with the possible exception of the voice talent for that scaly librarian, and the replacement "talent" had about as many neurons between their collective ears as a cubic centimeter of space dust.
Look also at "Earth: Final Conflict." Fantastic series until Tribune Entertainment got their grubby mitts on it, and decided (God only knows why) it needed some changes. What'd we get? Death of the leading character(s) and, after a while, nothing but badly-written 'Monster of the Week' episodes. I'm surprised Kevin Kilner even bothered to reappear later on. I wonder if that was a move of desperation, on the part of the producers, to try and revive what they'd already effectively killed?
Few series survive being re-made. Does anyone really trust the production skills of a studio that has given us such... wonders... as "Crossing Over with John (shyster) Edwards," and the cancellation of their single most popular series (Farscape), to be able to do justice to the original BSG, as campy as it may have been?
I think SciFi needs to leave well enough alone. Unless, that is, they plan on hiring Richard Hatch as the producer of the thing. Then it might stand a chance.
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Blue Feather Technologies
The original comment was irony. If there was a secret decoder URL for BSG units, would the original poster have been happy? The world may never care.
I want a new world. I think this one is broken.
Like Dude, yeah I have a wife and son. Maren is a nice person, and I got to see her every weekend when I was in college on the tube - so there are both High school memories and college memories that are invoked here.
Have you compiled your kernel today??
Like all Mormon pop culture, it deconstructs itself. At least BG was kind and gentle in its circular self-references. Anton Niel LaBute movies redefined self-loathing... but the cruelest thing I've ever seen (and one of the funniest) was Orgazmo.
Get it? Orgaz-Mo. If not, you probably thought it was a not-very-funny movie about porno and a goofy cut-rate superhero, because you totally missed the good parts. The movie kicked the Mormon church in the nuts every fifteen to forty-five seconds, VERY HARD, starting with the opening credits ("Now you're a man! A man, man, man!")
Bring on the Ship of Lights! "We once were what you are. We are as you may become." Remember, Count Iblis can only destroy you if you seek him out and cooperate!
goes "bidi bidi bidi" I think its name was twiki or something.
It seems that cool space shows don't last very long these days. Too expensive or something.
My earlier comments on series re-making are hereby suspended -- for now! I should have done this before writing anything, but I just checked the link and saw that Ron Moore is the guy leading the project.
Considering the quality of "Roswell" and his other accomplishments, I believe I will give his image of what BSG could be a chance before I pan it outright.
Bruce Lane, KC7GR,
Blue Feather Technologies
"By your command."
So does Anonymous Coward have good karma?
Sigh. It's OK to invent units. It's not OK to have those units already mean something vastly different in real life.
Just look at the credentials of the people involved:
Directed by Michael Rymer:
Queen of the Damned - The worst hack job of a novel in recent memory, and a snooze-enducing piece of crap that made me want to just get up and walk out in the middle of the movie.
Written by Ronald D. Moore:
Mission: Impossible II - Your mission (should you choose to accept it) is to make a movie even dumber than Mission: Impossible.
Produced by David Eick:
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys - NEED I SAY MORE???
This is going to be a schlockfest!
"Space:1999, The Return Of Moonbase Alpha"?
I still have a crush on Sheba
...when it was so obviously a Cylon car.
Used to be known as the "voice of doom" during WW2. He was the CBC radio announcer who used to read off the list of the reported dead every day. He was one of those rare personalities you could immediately identify with your eyes shut, from voice alone.
My rights don't need management.
Funny you should mention that, they did a remake of Fantasy Island with Malcolm McDowell as Mr. Roarke.
It was....different....Not everything turned out happily every time. It seemed a little darker.
But it was still a remake of a 20 year old idea.
"For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
Though The Fall Guy had more than a few dumb shows, towards the end of its run it went into a lot of parodies (of other TV shows, movies, books)and odd jokey plots. And the whole idea of a show about a stuntman, where it's obvious that the "stuntman's" stunts are being done by a real stuntman, is a cute self-referential idea.
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I would have volunteered to help her with her breathing.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
She was in Buck Rogers, and still looks great in a flight suit:
http://www.eringray.com/Photographs/Alexc.jpg
The revolution will NOT be televised.
Boy, I'm glad Firefly was cancelled and forgotten about so there'd be room for this.
Hey, maybe we should cut down on the reruns of shows that sucked when they first aired and actually do something that doesn't suck from the concept up.
Let's bring back Kolchak: The Night Stalker, too. Oh wait.
When's Bravo running another Kurosawa fest? My Tivo goes unused.
Keep your packets off my GNU/Girlfriend!
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But no, you can't have a FEMALE Starbuck. He was my favorite character in the original series!!!
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
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Mormon door-to-door salesmen are notorious for their persistance but it usually isn't necessary to argue or tell them off. Unless you enjoy that sort of thing that is. You can usually get them to go away by politely saying something like this: "I have my own religious beliefs and am not interested in changing them." If they return say something like this: "I told you last time I wasn't interested and I'm disappointed that you have no consideration." I'm told by a former Mormon that should shame them into leaving you alone. It has something to do with their values and is more effective (though not as much fun) than poking holes in the Book of Mormon and their history.
If out of politeness, you express any interest or (horrors!) invite them in then be prepared to put your plans for the evening on hold. They are more than willing to "study" with you for several hours.
You can't hack C it's #insert "farscape.h" what language are you doing? I have never seen what you have in the title.
I think BattleStar Glactica should be redone in the spirit of the original. One of the things that kept the series interesting was StarBuck. His wit, his cool cigars, his womanizing. I think really I watched it in the 80s cause of StarBuck. I can't see how a female is going to work in that role. Maybe the should make Apollo a female (Apolla or something). That character in the series SUCKED.
It's either on the beat or off the beat, it's that easy.
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ALL of these " beer after work" shows have a fair number of too-dumb and parody episodes -- it goes with the territory, especially when you're endlessly recycling plots and desperate to find a way to refresh 'em.
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The Fall Guy was slightly different in that the entire series was an inside joke, but they pulled it off fairly well. And like most "beer after work" shows, it tended to fall down when they tried to be extra serious or extra funny (tho they did have a couple of really good 'serious' and 'funny' episodes). The credits clips are all from real films. And I still get a kick out of the theme song... in fact it's on my Everyday Playlist. (Remember the episode where Our Hero is revealed to have written it?
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get a long term exclusive license to the original Star Trek series and then stop airing it.
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>So long as they don't bring back that stupid
>robot dog, it might be okay.
Hey, with the magic of CGI, they might just choose to replace him with Gleek!
Maybe we should start a write-in campaign to bring that dynamic and oft-misunderstood character back to the small screen?
...a (very unfortunately named) kid I went to high school with. ...that stupid robot dog...
I always thought it was a stupid robot bear.
Okay, this is an odd story, but true. Because of this, I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Battlestar Galactica.
When I was a kid, there was a special episode of Battlestar Galactica. I think it was the one where they got to Earth finally, but regardless it was on an hour before it normally came on. My family was out for dinner and I kept pestering them to leave early just so we could watch the show. They finally gave into my whining and we headed home.
Once we arrived, we found the dog running around in the front yard, having somehow jumped out the window. There was on odd flickering through our livingroom windows and we all rushed in. In front of the fireplace, a spark had caught the rug on fire and a small blaze had started.
My parents ran into the kitchen to fill up pots and pans to douse the fire. We kids ran into the t.v. room, ducked under the smoke, and watched our movie.
The true irony is that a few years later, we had a much more serious house fire in the middle of the night. We were moving in a week and my mother had packed away all the fire alarms. We ended up safe, but it was far more exciting than I'd wish for again. Now my wife wonders why I'm so weird about having many fire extinguishers and fire alarms.
In fact, if you talked to the production guys, it really was a Cylon car; they were the inspiration for the sliding red light.
If you disagree, post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like.
Not only was that effect used over and over BG, but also in a really awful Z-grade BG-ripoff movie called "Space Mutiny" riffed ever-so-eloquently by Mystery Science Theater 3000.
What was even funnier is that they used the shot of launching fighters as though there were launching MISSILES at the "space pirates" (whose ships bear a striking resemblance to cylon battleships). You can clearly see that those are fighters being launched, yet the plot claims they are missles. The "battle" lasts about 5 seconds (no exaguration here!) after which they quickly jump to some already-seen footage of the bridge crew partying!
Sick individual that I am, I actually rented "Space Mutiny" to watch it in its unmitigated awfulness. Picture a space opera filmed almost entirely in an abandoned factory of some sort, and a couple of drop-ceiling offices with surplus late-80's office computer equipment, with costumes consisting almost entirely of lycra.
Whenever I think of Space Mutiny the words "railing kill" spring to mind! Pretty much every single person who dies in this movie does so by falling off the railings in the factory that is supposed to be the engine room of their ship!
This is one of the best MST3K episodes ever and you can download it off of KaZaA. The commander looks exactly like Santa Claus, a woman gets killed and then is clearly visible in the background of the next scene, the hero demonsrates his courage by setting his disabled opponent on fire, and the climactic chase scene at the end with in those rediculous golfcart buggies must be seen to be believed. Do yourself a favor and download it today! Best. MST3K. Ever.
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watch this
The big problem is that the network refused to take sci-fi seriously, and wanted to make a chilren's show. Also, they ripped off Star Wars, Star Trek, and every other space opera that had ever been produced. It seemed every episode included "Oh No! Boxie and his daggit are in trouble!" Once the Cylons were replaced by the Eastern Alliance, it was too stupid even for young children. The only space opera that escaped network executives' meddling to any degree was Babylon 5.
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Everyone here seems so think DS9 is the best thing since sliced bread, and sure, after a few seasons it became a decent show (when they started using longer story arcs, and darker stories), but everyone also seems to forget that for the first three or so seasons it sucked badly.
In fact the changes in DS9 seemed to be mostly in response to Babylon 5.
Understandably, since they were both similar.
Twiki(?) was from Buck Rogers in the 21st Century, not BG.
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Today is Dirk Benedict's (58th?) birthday.
And he hasn't had a decent gig since 1985 or so.
I hope they use a new hair cut...
The recasting of Starbuck as a female is heresy. His character was a womanizing, drinking, gambler who has been neutered for the sake of PC or some other hair-brained idea. There seems to be no end to bad Galactica ideas. Bring on the Hatch script; it's supposedly the best one out there.
To hell with this garbage.
*Fortitudo, aequitas, fidelitas.*
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Hopefully, costume standards are high enough now that there won't be lights on the *inside* of the space helmets.
Oh, wait, I get it, it's one of those shows from the eighties.
Heh, you people are old!
There's a reason why the show's initials are BS. When I saw it as a child, I thought then that it was lame. However, I know a college friend who actually liked it. Can't imagine why.
Why did the script writers name the home planet of humanity Kobol? If I ever grew up on a planet named Kobol, I'd leave ASAP, and wouldn't even mention it on my resume. I would find my way to something better like Perl or C++.
You think they will get sued by Starbucks for making this? Maybe they made him a her so they can name the character "Starbuckie"
Manipulate the moderator system! Mod someone as "overrated" today.
but a female starbuck, come on! what the fuck!
Come to think of it, the closest I could get to the Cylon Centurion (robot) voice in 1979 was by speaking into a 36" fan, so maybe I wasn't too far off :)
Anyone have a circuit diagram for the vocoder they actually used for that robot voice effect, that most of us kids didn't know how to build back then? Gotta be doable for $10 worth of parts these days.
I was going to make a joke about reading Loren Greene as Lorne Green, but it turns out that Loren Greene is a typo and my favourite wilderness show host also acted in Battlestar Galactica. How ironic, in an Alanis sort of way.
I never actually made the connection between Bonanza and New Wilderness either, and it turns out he was also known as "The Voice of Doom" from his CBC radio days.
Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
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A female Starbuck? Hahaha! Well if she's anything like the real Starbuck, they're going to have to make her hit up every guy on the ship. They're probably doing this in case this is going to develop into a series. When they run out of ideas they'll just play up the sexual tension between Apollo and Chickbuck and turn the thing into a damned soap opera, just like what happened in just about every permutation of Star Trek. Cripes, even X-Files did this with Fox and Scully towards the end.
-R
Like the subject says.
The only space opera that escaped network executives' meddling to any degree was Babylon 5.
I always got the impresion that the network execs bought the B5 idea because it was around the same time DS9 got under way and they were looking to compete.
Okay, so other than a space-station there is very little in common. And IIRC the pilot was made before DS9 was born - but I also remember there was a long delay between making the pilot and the show going into production.
But on the subject of TV Execs not having a clue
They almost cancelled B5 Season 5
And the cancelled the very promising sequal Excalibur part way through season 1 after mucking it about something rotten
Farscape got cancelled
As did Dark Angel
And Enterprise is in trouble.
Advertising revenue be damned, I'd cough up $2 a pop to get to see some of this stuff on a good-ish quality VCD download.
Do you mind, your karma has just run over my dogma.
If it's like most SciFi channel programs they'll make about 14 shows a year and divide each year into 2 "seasons". Then if the show is really popular, they'll cancel it after two years.
They should instead resurect FireFly. I liked Firefly. I found it different. And for once, no sound in space travel.
Remember the year 2000? They promised us flying cars. They delivered the PT Cruiser...
that was popular about the same time. I must have been about 10 years old. Boney M - Rivers of Babylon. I swore it went,
"By the river of Babylon, where we discovered Cylon..."
I thought, cool, Battlestar Galactica in this song... It didn't make much sense, but not much did at age 10.
Let me get this straight.
They won't commit to a season 5 of Farscape. Hell, they won't even commit to a 2 hour series finale to wrap up all the loose ends.
Us scapers just get left hanging with a part 1 of a 2 part episode that will never see the light of day.
But they are going to bring Battlestar Galatica back?
Look at the Farscape website, go there, they have plastered all over it how the critics say it is the best sci-fi on TV.
That is salt in the wound.
Vorlonspace.org had this story 2 WEEKS ago!
But this is slashdot. A slashdoter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber!
I'll raise you 50 cubits, Starbuck!
Image from http://www.katee-sackhoff.com/ "an unofficial website" for the new future Starbuck.
If the "creative" mind behind this project made it as a sequel, it would have a fighting chance. But "re-imaging" the series is going to kill it in the first three weeks.
RIP, Battlestar Gallactica.
Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to step away from the television. Just put down the remote, nice and slow...
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Katee Sackhoff?
Sackhoff = Sack off?
Sounds like a way to make a female Starbuck.
...besides that fscking robot dog...
*Cylons with Vocoder voices
*Too much use of the Viper launch sequence
*The same Cylon attack sequences over and over
*70's hairstyles
*Baltar holding that light to his chin for that "sinister" look
*Flying motorcycles
*Helmets with lights inside
*Ridiculous sounding units of measurement
Gotta be other cheesy 70's claptrap. Thoughts, anybody?
Oh, and kill that annoying kid off, too!
Now I'm wondering how in the heck this one slipped past the already ensuing legal firefight between the original creator and the Richard Hatch/Fan creation already in the works. Supposively, they had a high quality working trailer and everything. Now SciFi is busting out with their version? Huh? Is this a three way now? Was a lawsuit settled?
It'd be interesting to find out if this is just something on SciFi's wish list or have they somehow trumped everybody else's claim to the franchise...
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And the main character's name isn't "Luke Skywalker," it's "Commander Apollo."
And his buddy isn't "Han Solo," it's "Starbuck."
And his mentor isn't "Obi-wan," it's "Adama."
And the shiny armor-suit-things aren't "Stormtroopers," they're "Cylons."
I'm glad to see there's so much interest in such a ground-breaking, original piece of TV science fiction, though.
"Hardly used" will not fetch you a better price for your brain.
I thought BSG was a pretty nice series. There was symbolism, religious overtones, and prophecy. This is especially true of the two-part story "War of the Gods". That little cyber-dog was cute! Maybe people wouldn't be so angry with it if they recall that it was made as a "replacement" for the real dog the little boy lost when they fled their homeworld.
Or... we could not do that. Yeah. I like that option.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Indian #1: Thank you. I just wish Ben and Hoss and Little Joe and Hop Sing and Sheriff Roy and all your favorites could be alive today to see this wonderful turnout.
Indian #2: You know, on the series, we were always trying to kill the Cartwrights. [audience boos] But it looks like Father Time took care of that for us, right? [pause] Am I right, folks?
[the audience doesn't respond, so the two Indians motion for the theme song to play again, which they dance to]
Bart: Oh, this sucks.
Marge: Weren't there three Indians last year?
Lousy? It held my interest a lot more than B5, Farscape, or any other sci fi crap this side of a Star Trek series.
Heck, I may have even liked it more than Enterprise, largely because T'Pop looks kind of sickly and I wanna puke when I see her. (More Hoshi please! Now there's a PoA a man can live with.)
Lexx and Cleopatra 2525 held my interest briefly, but largely because of the big lipped babeage. Xeenia Seeberg r00lz.
Ehh, Thunderbirds reruns are more interesting than B5. The only sci fi more boring I can think of are old Avengers episodes, black and white, pre Mrs. Peel with Honor Blackmun.
"Has [being a kidnapped teenage girl, raped repeatedly for months] changed you?" - Katie Couric to Elizabeth Smart
So this is what's gonna be replacing Farscape? :P
Farscape kicked ass... I don't want no frickin
chrome painted plastic robots with blinky lights..... I want Farspace dammit..... I want Harvey dammit!
Hah! Clearly the upcoming "Women of Starbucks" pictoral that Playboy is planning is tied in to the female Starbuck character. I bet you a donut the actress appears in a layout.
among others in months past really made me do a double-take as to the channel I had tuned into. I think that perhaps there was a toxic coolant leak right over the executive coffee maker resulting in Bizarro Brand java.
Cattlecar Galactica! I *loved* that series when I was a kid! I had all the episodes on Betamax! Wheee!!! Oh, and it wasn't a dog, it was a robot replica of a "daggit". 'Cause the kid couldn't affoard a real daggit. Well, I expect to be disappointed, but you never know; SciFi channel rocks. By Your Command... (Oh, yeah--B5 was still the greatest skiffy series of all time. And I grew up on ST-TOS reruns)
"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
your post borders almost on being amusing. Amusing like watching a 18 year old gang banger spout how he is so "tough" yet beats on 11 year old kids. Or perhaps as amusing as watching a couple of monkeys beat each other to death over who can throw their poop the farthest. Perhaps by including more empty sound bites and baiting statements you feel your arguments resemble logical point discussion or are indicative of someone who employs logic and reason and avoids groupthink and other emotional reactive philosophies.
I hadn't thought of that particular reason for it being included. There couldn't have been any LESS realism unless they included elves, Apache helicopters and wookies with "vote for Ike" hats on. But what else do you expect from a recent (well less than 10 years old) movie by Mel Gibson. He does great in those completely fantastical universes but recreating historical events or staging a fictional event that is still in the context of our reality he falls flat. Its probably not his fault though, but he does seem to attract (or be attracted to) those types.
you mean I can't send in the troops to pacify mean ol nasties at all points of the planet as long as CNN says it is OK? I heard that some pissant country has some people beating on old women... the HORROR. Lets ignore the real threats and go act as policemen once again. Of course I will only support such action if it is by a Democrat.
during the early 90's they had already begun to be useless for showing modern movies. Why pay for a premium channel that shows movies you get for free on USA or TBS and then of course you have the crapheap of shows. Of course now they have that show about gangsters... sensless criminal violence is always a good bet at success.
And the cancelled the very promising sequal Excalibur part way through season 1 after mucking it about something rotten
Er, Excalibur was unmitigated crap and not worthy of the B5 name. It was just an incredibly dire attempt at a mechanism that allowed them to have "alien of the week" like any Star Trek series ever made.
The "techno mage" was badly realised, and the "super weapon" that the ship could manage was over used, and poorly implemented.
Whilst I agree on some of the others (Dark Angel was marginal. Sometimes it was very very good, sometimes it was just hideous), Excalibur was simply excrement.
there is a method of telling a story... then there is using the story based fictional series to create a false universe where illogical ideas proven wrong in reality can actually work. Then they can look back on that first as a simulation and then later as reality itself to justify their political positions. A moral to a story is one thing, using a movie or show to push your agenda is another.
...BG was one of the most worthless excuses that pasts as science fiction - except maybe for "Lost in Space"
There is a Lauren Green at Fox News Channel.
they're cancelling the brilliant Farscape for this shit. They must have shit for brains.
Yes, it starts out hit and miss as they build the characters. But after, say, 8 episodes the plot lines begin to form, and it gets really good. ( Think about ST/TNG season 1! No wait, on second thought: don't. )
In fact, one of the things Farscape has had going against it was that it's very difficult to pick up on what's going on if you haven't been following it from the beginning. Shows often reference small events that happened in several episodes previous.
My girlfriend and I have begun collecting the DVDs and are watching them in order, and we're constantly struck by details we missed the first time, how layered the writing is. Sometimes a cliche throw-away line turns out to have been foreshadowing. Give it a chance, and you'll be blown away by how successful the show is at visualizing a large, chaotic universe.
I still can't believe they're cancelling it before the end...!
You Dumb-Ass.
So long as they don't bring back that stupid robot dog, it might be okay
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And they killed farscape to bring us this crap?
-Nano.
I thought the series was pretty good. Lots of symbolism, religious references, prophecy. This is especially true of the two-part piece, "War of the Gods". The cyber-dog (Moffet?) was pretty cute. Maybe people would be easier on him if they realized he was created to "replace" the little boy's dog, which died in the attack prompting them to leave their home world (I think).
instead of throwing money at a show that will suck but will be popular because everyone saw it in their childhood.
Once the Cylons reach Earth,they should use that captured cylon fighter to sneak into the cylon mothership and release that strange virus (the one with the laughing skull and crossbones) to destroy/disable the entire fleet. Hey, it worked before...
Or we could let them download that new Windows Beta.
"Lucite...hardening. Must end life in classic Lorne Greene pose from Battlestar Galactica! Best...death....ever!"
- Comic book guy
Wouldn't a female Starbuck be a Stardoe?
Starbuck just isn't a name that should ever be applied to a female. I don't care if the character's a womanizer or not -- the name is distinctly masculine. It's like casting a woman as Superman or a man as Wonder Woman.
And on a related note, are there no original ideas on the Sci-Fi channel anymore?
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You my friend are a fucking moron but I don't guess I have to tell people that. Anyone who would say that Lexx and Cleopatra 2525 held thier interest doesn't need my help.
BG was good for it's time and maybe will be again but to say it was better than B5. You are trully lost. Then to say Thunderbirds was more intresting than B5 trully shows the depth of your stupidty.
Do us a favor and kill yourself before you have time to multiply and spread your defective genes.
1) "Space Doctrine" -- this is an area of Mormonism which is taken seriously by crackpots and few others. I'm not saying that we don't believe Abraham was given a vision of the creation, stretching through the Universe as referred to with the above links -- we do. I'm just saying that trying to pinpoint the location of Kolob or put an exact *literal* meaning to it is going way beyond anything you'll ever hear by going to any services of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (unless one of said crackpots somehow manages to take control of a Sunday school class, which isn't likely given that 1- they are rare and 2- since they are crackpots, they aren't likely to be given charge of teaching such a class).
2) Larson's very loose use of Mormon theology as a framework for his crackpot science fiction shouldn't be interpretted as mainstream Mormonism's Dogma. Sure, its an interesting twisting of a belief system. For most Mormons, Battlestar Galactica is one of those "gee whiz, there's some allusion to our religion there" mixed with a healthy does of "ah gee they really butchered our beliefs badly there."
The original theme music! It's a strong, martial-sounding composition that can hold its own with the best space opera themes. I saw this story on the front page and, immediately, the opening notes of that theme started sounding in my mind...it's so closely identified with the series, I don't see how they could not include it.
Be who you are...and be it in style!
Cancel Farscape and air Prattlestar. God, I hate my life.
You're French, aren't you? :)
Plege of allegience, original form: One nation, with liberty and justice for all.
Note what's missing, that got added in the 1950's.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
When I was a teenager it was cool, the Cylons and ships and all. But watching the reruns now it's so cheezy I could throw up..
I also used to like "Space 1999" I'll bet it's just as corny now. I would like to see the reruns though..
As for remakes, leave shit alone please. I HATE remakes of ANYTHING. I was appalled at the remake of "The Time Machine", among many others.
As for SciFi channel, they suck. Too damn many commercials, the commercial breaks are WAY to long and all those "paid programming" crap-a-thons suck.
Most of the trash on SciFi just plain sucks. Bad actors/actresses, piss poor plots, crappy sets and WAY too much CG..
They use CG to distract you from the fact that they CAN'T ACT !!!
Of course, I bet some Hollywood lawyer probabally thought that Richard Hatch was the same guy as that guy on the TV Survivor show, thought to settle some of the problems with him, and smoothing stuff out.
It's all about Sheba. No Sheba no BSG. Meow.
Anybody else ever notice that the scene with the three raider ships looping into the atmosphere of some planet that used to be shown in the beginning credits of some series of B5 were directly ripped off from a similiar scene of 3 Cylon ships looping in the skies over Capricorn in BG? I wonder what other influences there may have been?
I'm not going to watch this trash, attempting to pass off as BSG. It's just trash television, no more. I've signed the petition to boycott this production (bsgboycot.cjb.net) and I urge you to do the same. I want to see a continuation with Richard Hatch, not this remake which is something like Sex and the city.
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I don't have a problem with the under God part. I have more of a problem with the whole thing. Why would a FREE nation need such a pledge?
If we are truly free then are we not free not to pledge or to pledge in any form or fashion that we choose and if we are a free nation the rights we are free to express would mostly guarantee that we are going to be loyal. So what is the point IN the pledge?
It is no surprise that a socialist wrote it.
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...but a lame Star Wars ripoff from the late 70'
s is OK. Gorrammit.
Why are they going to bring back and old show that was cancelled for a good reason, not even know if it's going to be a success or not?
They have a great show running now that is a success and they are canceling it. Only a few weeks of Farscape left.
With such morons running the company, I can't wait until they go under.
...and the masses WILL flock to this show. So will most of you, just so you can flame it in a forum the next day. Networks love that kind of attention.
Let's face it, this has NOTHING to do with lack of creativity and everything to do with $$$. Your average dad in his early 30's will hear about this, remember how much he enjoyed watching the show, then make a point of watching the remake with his little boy. You could place money on a bet like that.
Why do you think Lucas took so long to release such a shitty "prequel" (--is that even a real word?).
One last note: while living in Canada I saw an ad on their "Space" channel (very similar to SCIFI) for BG. It went something like this...
"Who would have thought the future would look SO much like the '70s?"
When presented with an ad campaign like that, it's obvious that even networks can have a sense of humour about old crappy shows that we beg them to play.
> Anyone who would say that Lexx and Cleopatra
> 2525 held thier interest doesn't need my help.
Some day you'll go thru puberty, then you'll understand. I know an uberdork who didn't start liking girls until 10th damn grade! Theoretically, some must reach college or even beyond.
> before you have time to multiply
Looks like we need not worry about this for you, either (see above.)
"Has [being a kidnapped teenage girl, raped repeatedly for months] changed you?" - Katie Couric to Elizabeth Smart
Soon they'll be bringing back "Flash Gordon" and showing the movie millions of times over and bringing in "Lost in Space" and showing it's crappy, new age movie with Matt LeBlanc millions of time. Then they'll make Star Wars a television show and show it and uh, uh, do other annoying things! Then Farscape, Stargate SG-1 and other great programming will get cancled! AH!