....granted, eye candy-ish, but maybe fun none the less, here's a few:
Imagine you have a ton of ebooks stored. Instead of a flat representation of folders and sub folders for labelling and navigation, you could walk around various rooms in your mansion until you got to the reading den, walls covered with bookshelves. As you zoom in you can see the titles on the binders, and you can "reach in" and select one and open it and start reading. Maybe you want to monitor the news and weather or listen to the game while you are reading, go over to the "TV" and select a channel, that screen now is displaying a real channel. The mouse moves your hand(s) of course. Same with music, choose from your "record collection", drag and plop it on a cyber turn table and it starts playing. Ditto movies. Say you want to chat with your friend, you could jump in your Flying car(finally!) and fly over to his house quickly and knock on the door, he opens it and you are now chatting. If you don't want a face to face, just "pick up the phone" and dial, just do audio then.
And stuff like that there, just take the idea of GUI into real life (RLUI- real life user interface) and do the stuff you normally would on the machine but with real world examples. Surfing the web? You are back in your flying car visting places (websites), or maybe you like flying by jet or taking a train nice and easy-whatever you want! A sailboat! It won't matter, because you choose what YOU like to have represented in the manner you want to accomplish the computer tasks. Going to your bank? Go there and the real teller you normally go to is there waiting to serve you, all 3-d looking like they really do look.. Transforming normal tasks into the real world similar examples would be sorta fun!
Every single one of these entertainmnet media schemes is relevant to them trying to find a way to keep making the same sort of money per copy they were back when making copies for redistribtion was expensive. Now that it has dropped to the incredibly cheap level, they will not lower prices to reflect this. Ever single one of these steps seeks to somehow keep a similar pricing level when it is not needed, they need drastically lowered prices to hold market now. And that's the problem, they simply will NOT lower prices down to a level that technological advances dictate as more fair pricing.
In the 20s, the flapper era, women sometimes wore short skirts, at least enough for the knees to be showing. I remember seeing a pic of one of my aunts all flappered out when she was a young babe, pretty funny really! She thought the old pic was a hoot, too. We were talking back in the hippie days and my dad had been raggin' on me for how I looked, how I dressed, etc, so she dug out some old photos of the family. Him in a ZOOT SUIT got me out of any more "you look weird" lectures!
Current modern distros are just too whopper big to deal with on dialup. If you miss the first week or so before you get the snail mail disks, you are stuck every day downloading and patching some huge amount, this way you can can at least wait a bit, let the first month of patches go out (always large once a LOT more people are running the release and finding the gotchas and figuring out the work arounds, THEN get your disks and start patching/updating. Just when you finally get your personal "stable" release all fully patched and tweaked and customized, WHAM, the next "new" one comes out.
So, what would be even *better* is end of release cycle fully updated and patched ISOs! I would love those! Once it drops into "extreme critical patches only" territory, until that runs out, (fedora legacy in this case) you can just get the now truly stable release and run it and have just a minimum amount of patching/downloading/updating. My workarond for this so far has been to just skip every other release, purely from the huge amount of downloading I can avoid.
since when do they own the airwaves anyway?
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Why is it their licenses to broadcast on the PUBLIC airwaves keeps getting a rubber stamp renewal? Are their offerings really that good, does the news they spew out really inform? Maybe we should just lobby to get these current networks off the air, to be replaced with new ones that might be more people friendly anyway and more honest? Their news is 3/4ths government propoganda, the rest industry propoganda for the most part. Their "shows" are pithy drivel designed as carriers so that some big business can make profits. Where is the "of the public benefit" angle at, I am not seeing it..
Here's a thought, it shouldn't be carved in stone that ANY profits are guaranteed to them by the FCC rubber stamp process. How about call it a night for them, they have had generations of sucking at the public teat to make money, how about we just tell them to go away and spend what they already made? Where is it in the constitution that industry x,y,z are guaranteed profits? IF the licensing process was truly fair, wouldn't it be nice to actually see the word NO applied to them once in awhile? Maybe they might get ordered to have no more than 5 minutes an hour commercials instead of 20% like they do now? I know I get told NO by the FCC if I try to get a commercial very low watt simple radio station, an assigned AM or FM freq, you have to be a multi millionaire to pull that off today, yet for some reason the big TV networks always seem to get renewed, and clear channel is allowed to suck up a HUGE chnk of the avaialble radio freqs. Why is that again, why are they guranteed access and profits? I know I have complained for years about their so called "public news coverage" that functions as an arm of crooked government and big business. How about the last presidential elections when the public airwaves news broadcasters would not insist on the credible larger third party candidates being on the stage with the D and R doofuses? How is that in the public interest all the time? And I know hundreds of thousands of other people have complained too, yet..always rubber stamped back into the guaranteed profits zone by the FCC "public servants".
Screw 'em, let someone else have a crack at it, they should just be denied renewal, they have been running a decades long lock down of the public airwaves. They want to be guaranteed *millionaires*, to hell with that noise. Let some other comapnies try some shows where they might be content with jst making a living, not being leeches off the public airwaves to maintain their millionaire status. Katie Couric is worth 15 million a year??? For WHAT? Because her network gets a rubber stamped guaranteed renewal for their "license"? Multiply that by all the other network "stars" and show "stars" and execs and crap like that in that "industry" and THAT is why we have SO MANY commercials that people WANT to skip them, it became an onerous gouging exploitation experience a long time ago and it need to END.
...an actual credible bona fide anti missile defense that really worked, the other major nuclear powers (china and russia) would be sorely tempted to launch a first strike before the new system was widely deployed. If they waited, it would place them in a position of being defenseless against an attack, without even a good chance of a good sized retaliatory stike. MAD only works when all the sides are at rough parity in other words.
I said there's too many movies out now, not interested in seeing them all right away. The 5 number I meant 5 dollars for a new disk hits my maximum of what I might pay for one, not 5 movies a weekend. Sorry for the confusion. I maybe watch a dozen or so movies a year now at the most. I have some I picked up more than a year ago I haven't even watched yet in fact.
this is just my subjective impression, but it appears that the sheer numbers of new movies seems to have gone up radically over the past decade or so. There are just so many movies that people want to watch I think, I know I dont care to see so many, certainly not all of them or even close to that. Seems like a long time ago, when a new "big" movie came out it was a relatively big deal, now its like every weekend there are a dozen (whatever) new movies. Same with bands and music for that matter.
Like I said, subjective, I have no actual hard numbers to point at.
As to the kiosks, I think it could be a fine way to do it if the movie plays in anything called a DVD player and if the discs are significantly cheaper than what you get now off the shelf. The main problem is disks need to be around three bucks, not 20 dollars.
*snort* We bought some movies yesterday out weekend yard saling, I got VHS tapes three for a dollar. Thats about the only way I buy movies or music now, used and at a cheap reasonable price. At 20 bucks, I buy zero movies. Under ten dollars I start to think about it, bargain bin new 5 or under I grab a few if I feel like it.
I can build a reasonably good enough system (reusing my old drives and case and ram, etc, just doing a mobo/cpu upgrade)(or do it from some old pentium junker), AND load the OS and apps for what a copy of OSX or XP costs normal retail, and with OSX you are stuck running the hardware they pick out and choose for you, plus it is mostly non free software and a ton of the extra apps cost serious folding money.
I am right this second running Austrumi 1.20,(just DLed and burnt it today and booted it for a test drive) at only 50 megs under windows manager Enlightenment 17, runs entirely from RAM,meaning it is about as fast as stuff can run basically,plus it frees up the optical drive, I mean, nothing from mac or windows can touch it, either from a systems resources point of view or from a speed or functionality point of view at *50 megs total*, or from a cost in cash POV. Then you can go to any of the big name brand full sized linux distros of choice if you want to fit your machine of choice, at virtually any budget, ten bucks used at the thriftstore to ten million dollars custom high end hardware at acme advanced secret research, inc..
Theres really no comparison what you can do with Linux as opposed to whatever you can drag away from from Apple or MS. They make you fit their idea of computing, Linux lets the individual custom tailor what they want to do with computing. Except maybe for running a few niche or necessary/obscure applications, but for over-all generalised use...no comparison any longer. You can take the linux kernel and run on any sized low budget normal machine all the way up to multi node super computers with about any sort of application you can think of, all for minimal to zero initial software cost. Thats what is so cool about linux, eXtreme flexibility, and you got a choice from totally free in cost to pay for as much handholding as is necessary. *Choice*
- good integration and commercial support-you can go for free to whatever you want to spend with linux support, unlimited
- carries the name of a recognized brand-Linux is so far mainstream now, every single major media outlet has carried numerous articles for years, it needs no further introduction, its like saying, "welcome to the 21st century, we have cars now, check em out!"
- something different that has a reputation for rock solid stability-WAY more config diffs under linux then under mac or windows and stability is a non issue, its *there*, it is a major bragging point.
- user-friendly-pure command line for the fattest gray haired gurus all the way to very nice looking (this e17 is *nice*) and functional GUI, its the same deal realistically now, user friendly for most any user, and you have a LOT more choices with linux
And the most important part?? Freedom. You can look at any tiny detail and change it to whatever you want, total freedom. You aint getting that from apple or MS.....
Look at the one laptop per child project, arguably the largest planned technological rollout to the most people ever conceived, the goal is stick a laptop in the hands of every kid on earth eventually. This will be known in future history as a serious major turning point once it starts happening, and it looks pretty good it will. Now, they had to choose,the softare is a critical part of this ambitious undertaking, they looked at it, MS and Apple-not even in the running for a project of this grand a vision. Default resource hogs and no freedom at all knocked them out early in the considerations.
...right here "Most people also think that music piracy would go down significantly if a music CD had a resonable price."
IF the music and movie industry were to realise that they could make more net profit with volume sales at a MUCH more reasonable price for relatively cheap to make plastic stamped discs hardly none of this piracy action would have occurred in the first place. It is ludicrous to charge 20 dollars for a cheap disk. Look at the cost of production/transportation/warehousing, etc of a VHS tape as compared to a stamped disc, yet they want similar money for them. So why is this again? It makes no sense whatsoever unless you use the word "gouging", which I realise is subjective, but still...
If the entertainmnert industry wants to get this behind them, I suggest a few dollars *tops* for a stamped entertainment disc as the answer. It wouldn't completely eliminate so called "piracy", but they would see sales and net profits skyrocket. There is a simple fact of retail life here, people can see and react to gouging, and the entertainment industry just refuses to admit they are, in fact, serious chronic gougers. Their prices have NOT dropped and kept up with technological advances that make the reduced cost of duplication and distribution possible.
I doubt there will ever be a cheap/easy/affordable way to do this with chemical reaction rockets. If there was it would have been thunked up by now, doncha think? What you see is what ya get, big ole rockets carrying a relatively small amount of stuff up at great cost.
We won't become much of a space faring race until we have *advanced physics drives of some sort that work with gravitrons or something along those lines.
*note:said "advanced". We need to be able to understand and manipulate gravity in some fashion, right now the best we can do is we sort of measure it AFAIK.
One chemical alternative: wildcard long shot: could we build rockets where the structure (parts of it anyway) of the rocket itself could be transferred to being fuel? A cannibalizing rocket in other words, save a lot of weight that way and get more fuel to orbit.
This idea is a variation on the "caseless ammo" concept. I saw one of these rifles before that used this sort of ammo, made by Daisy the BB gun guys, it worked perfectly fine, no brass at all. The concept never caught on much, but it worked. So maybe there is a way there to get a lot more fuel into orbit for much less cost than currently. Don't ask me for a detailed chemical composition outline though, no idea, just the concept of cannibalizing rockets.
I was only commenting on the red tinted water from wells, I have no idea whatsoever on the Indian sky/rain falling bacteria or whatever it is.
That it fell off and on for a couple of months I *think* would eliminate a rogue meteor and transpermia action*, which would leave wind patterns normal for that time of year picking up dust upwind someplace with a tint to it and/or something like red tide algae from over water, or, less likely but still possible, some sort of extensive black ops missions with atmospheric spraying of some exotic man made substance. We would need a lot better analysis of the substance in question to begin to proceed here. I am not really believing the no DNA claims yet. If it fell off and on for two months there should be a lot more samples someplace.
*I don't know if we were going through any particular concentrated meteor swarm at the time, something like the Perseids, etc, but not noticed before. I find that unlikely though. the initial report from the local residents describe a large boom in the sky that preceeded the first red-stuff drop, that part is the screwiest to me, because then for two months the red rain fell, but no additional sky booms. Anything deposited like that from a meteor would have spread all over, not remained in one small area.
The red tint can easily come from bacteria called iron bacteria. I am familiar with water wells and the necessity sometimes for disinfecting and filtering the water before use from those microbes.(having the old lady go medieval on you from her losing a set of all-whites in the wash is a good motivator for research and corrective actions with said infected well:p ) Here is a URL for your perusal on this subject
where is it even in the market place for consumers to have a choice in the matter? You got some serious assumptions you are putting out there as fact, so let's see some proof to it. Where is normal joe surfer software (the OS, some normal userland apps, etc) for sale that comes with a warranty instead of an end user license that says "nothing is our fault" and "this software provided as is, might not be suitable for a dang thing, hope U R feelin lucky"??
bad car analogy time
This is like the car companies saying there was "no market" for electric cars, even though they never put any out there to begin with, and the leased all electrics went like hotcakes and the leasees BEGGED to be able to buy them, yet most got crushed in still fine working order.
You put a good OS and browser and a few more apps out there with a guarantee and warranty that YES indeedy you can use this on the internet and not get hosed and pwned and your printer will work and etc,and see what happens.
People are already dropping serious coin on fixes all the time, so why wouldn't they drop coin on stuff that doesn't need much fixin to begin with?
The rest of industry (I mean A to Z, the *rest of industry*) has come to grips with building to such a quality level that the rate of recall and fixes under warranty is under control, they can still "do business" and "make money" at it. None of their stuff is 100% perfect,none of it, but they got to the point it is plenty good enough, because they got REQUIRED to provide a certain minimal level warranty, even though when it was finally imposed on them they all cried crocodile tears and claimed it wouldn't work and put them all out of business, it just wasn't possible, OMGBBQ we'd have to charge so much money no one will buy our stuff! And other such whines like we hear now from the digital bits vendors. The other industries managed *just fine*.
Software is the last major industry allowed to push snakeoil under the "caveat emptor" rules, way past time that got changed.
And I think for most consumers it would work like this:you charge us serious cash, we want a warranty, you want to give it away as betaware for freebies or cost of media and duplication or download, we'll take it for free and maybe pay a very low reasonable amount of periodic bug fixes.
But charging serious folding cash then no warranty with your "full stable release" stuff is the problem, it is not the solution.
As it is now, we have no consumer choice, pay money for bugs, or download stuff for free with bugs, where is the "very little bugs to begin with at a reasonable price" stuff? I would bet that is what *most* people would eventually go to if it was there to choose from.
You can't get cable or satellite a la carte service yet, you must pop for the whole bundle, then new movies, extra, etc. Plus, a lot of people might be in the OTA signal range of a PBS station, but not have any broadband capability, so they usually have just POTS lines with dialup connections, which means no movie downloading.
Near as I can see it, this service is an alternative to running to blockbuster for people where every trip is a long drive, suburbanites and rural people.
You are automatically equating protest with the word disruptive. Look what you have written. This alone proves you have little idea what you are talking about, nor have you been paying attention to the long past history of political "protesting". And before the knee jerk denial that you said that, look what you wrote.
I have personally witnessed this violation of rights BS and been the target of cops at *completely* peaceful protests where they went apeshit under some orders and attacked the crowd, going back to civil rights days, pre-anti nam war days, and from then onwards. Not to say violent protests don't happen as well, I won't deny that, but by no means are they all, most usually at least start out peaceful until the overt or covert(yes, this happens) functionaires start the violence, giving them the excuse to go nuts. I have seen it too many times now to not know this isn't SOP with them.
It does no good if you can't assemble where the action is, 10 miles down the road behind a fence is not "the right to assemble",the government has placed illegal and unconstitutional restrictions on a right, they have said you need "permission" to exercise a born-with right. This is illegal. That right no where states you have the right to assemble where THEY tell you to assemble. That's something they just started doing because they got the guns and follow orders from their "superior beings" whomever those entities are.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
It does not state you have "some" rights to assemble or that you can only assemble in some designated "zone". Show us where it says that, I have provided the full quote. If you can, I'll concede gracefully, but I have read that numerous times in my life, and can't seem to see those little clauses you insist are there. If it is public property, you have a right to assemble there (obviously personal private property is a different subject entirely), you have the right to your speech, and the right to be heard with your petitions, whether the petitions are oral, written, or visual, as petitions could take any or all of those forms. We the people have a right to tell our elected folks what we think about what is going on. Period. If they keep trying to dodge the petition, they are violating their duties as elected people, no matter what media form the petition is in. They can't refuse the petition. They can't legally order their mercenaries to keep you away from them when you are trying to deliver your petition to them, but they constantly do that. I know why of course, it's because by and large they are mostly corrupt crooks and want to keep their cushy well paying jobs and positions of "rule" over people.
If you got a political beef, you and your peers have a right to assemble, and to petition the government. That's it, it is that simple ancd clearly the intent of the founders. they were just coming from a time where the redcoats broke up crowds, told them they couldn't be in the town square in a group, arrested "ring leaders' for their "speech", kept them from "petitioning" the crown's authorities, etc, that's why the amendment was written exactly like that. It is beyond clear. They do NOT have the right to restrict you in such a way that they are dodging their duties as governmental workers/politicans/or functionaires, they are REQUIRED to listen to your petitions as acceptance of their official office, to follow the laws. Yes, they have to listen. They still might not agree with your petition, but they have a duty that goes with their oath. And if you come in a group, to show solidarity and the numbers,i.e., an assemblage, too bad, that is a free persons right.
They are NOT RULERS, we are NOT SUBJECTS, much as they and apparently you seem to believ
Too funny, they already have traffic cops + the automated lights! At the same time! I was watching this once in Atlanta, I was crackin up how insanely stupid it was. Two fast food joints right next to each other, noon time rush. Now here, you can RENT a real cop, with his official uniform on, the whole deal, badge and gun, but he is off duty-but still on duty because cops are always on duty, something like that. You must OBEY CITIZEN! It is so much an hour to hire one of these official mercenaries. These two fast food joints had the renta cops "directing traffic", thoroughly screwing up the flow of trafffic with the automated lights nearby, so that their restaurant customers could get in and out of the parking lots fast. Here's the funny part, it was a WAR to see which cop had the most authority presence and could get HIS customers in an out even when the cop just 100 or so feet away was giving CONFLICTING SIGNALS by hand and whistle, stop, go ahead and turn, yield to these guys turning, etc. It was HILARIOUS (unless you were an unlucky driver just trying to drive on down the road by the normal rules and lights and not patronize either restuarant) and a microcosm of what is clearly wrong with the so called law and justice system.
...were found on a person at Megamall, therefore all people at Megamall can be arrested and all items confiscated as evidence.
Honestly, they don't care, they just follow orders, about the same anyplace in the world, there's no over-all practical difference between nations in this regard.
Currently my favorite one they "enforce" in the US is "free speech zones". They swear an "oath" to the Constitution then go ahead and "follow orders" with that concept.
I sort of like the idea of a crank or windup clockwork spring generator for additional electrical supply, like the MIT laptop was originally supposed to have. If it is spring and clockwork, you don't have to wind for a long time, my baygen/freeplay radios (they have flashlights, too) you can wind completely up in less than a minute, then they give 30 minutes radio. I know it wouldn't last as long with a laptop, but it would be *some* emergency power as your battery started to go. There's even a foot powered generator you could get, throw it on the floor and just a slow pumping action acts as a generator, leaving your hands free and not bothering the computer. Something like this, perhaps a bit beefier the Stepcharger
It's the distance, man. WAY too many places in the US have no broadband at all with cable/wires/fiber and wifi is too short a range and trees and hills just muck it up.. WiMax is about the only way I'll get broadband, even then it will be iffy, and there are millions and millions more people in the same boat. the US is not just the top major urban areas afrter all and even a lot of suburban areas have little to no choice in broadband. If some companies get wimax out there, they WILL sell it. All these people still on dialup will go to it if it works and it is at least a reasonable cost. As it is now I pop for a phone line just to get net access, I don't *need* the land line phone, my cell works fine for phone calls, so wimax would maybe be cheaper than dialup!
I honestly have no rational way to completely reply to your assumptions about me, but I will try. I am well past "grown up". I am what is politely called a paleocon (I worked the goldwater campaign if that helps place me in ideology and age for you), although now I just use either nationalist or traditionalist or constitutionalist, that part doesn't matter, I am *against* fraud/crooks/conmen/overt predatory exploitation. I support neither the R nor D party at this point in time. I also worked a lot of conservation issues in the past because I believe in being a good steward of the Earth. I practice what I preach, I don't drive much, no commuting, only work on a farm, produce food through hard labor, grow a lot of my own organic food, invested in some solar tech, keep old devices running to not contribute so much to waste, etc. I make a buck and spend a buck, but am not adverse to sharing as much as I can either with friends and neighbors. I am not totally against the theoretical concept of free trade, just I don't think it will work given man's basic nature, and judging by the closest examples we can find in contemporary and older history, I can see how it probably won't, it de-evolves into the biggest most ruthless predators "win" and hurt a lot of people in the process. I don't wish it so, but them's the facts near as I can see it. I don't subscribe to the concept of globalism as it is practiced and pushed now, because moving capital digits is a lot easier for megabigco than moving people, and it isn't fair of some nations elected government and partners in transglobal business to shaft their own citizens in favor of others and a few very rich people at the top. You don't just dump on your own people in other words.
I think it is far better to maintain a larger middle class for the overall good of society, using a real strong economy, not an inflated budget debt scam economy that is paraded and charaded as somehow "good" when it clearly isn't.. I don't really believe in shifting still viable jobs, but in creating new ones in new areas, that way, no one suffers as much and everyone gets bettered across the board, this nation AND that other nation over yonder someplace. I don't think a viable national economy can exist in a very large nation *unless* it stays well diversified, which would include basic manufacturing and agriculture. And etc.
I think "fair" trade with some common sense regs is a better idea overall than the stuff that is being pushed by the globalists today with "free" trade. When THEY say "free", they mean they are free to do whatever THEY like and screw everyone else because they can squeeze a few more short term dollars out of people with no regard to the future.
I think that concept sucks. We can do better by having a more informed and aware and less ruthless presence at the top of the economic and political food chains than what we have now. I would think the political and big business scandals of the past few years would be more than ample evidence of why this is needed. When you are lead in business and politics by crooks liars thieves and thugs that is the society they create. It makes no difference what the snakeoil sellers are selling,just that people can recognize it is in fact "snakeoil" and move reduce that sort of behavior. The alternative method proposed starts personal from the individual and works up from there. The top to bottom power pyramid we have now is the part that isn't working that well, because at the top we have...well, to be blunt, crazy and greedy and ruthless people. We don't need to keep them as role models or think their business methods are all that great. Some do, but I certainly do not, and am not shy in stating it.
They starved to death because back then the landowners, the "lords", took the farmers food as "taxes". It was hard enough to scratch out a living, near impossible once half or more of that living got taken by force of the "lords" men at arms with swords and orders to confiscate.
Those kids wouldn't have starved near as much if the farmers and their families got to keep the bulk of their food.
"natural backlash against your proposed MEGABIGCO"..
that's why I mentioned the "heads on pikes" deal, it is what we have seen so far that happens once big gov/big business etc get overly huge and powerful and once they become "the same thing", then that's it, it happens, a big collapse usually preceeded by some heinous tyranny, you then get a violent backlash,the heads on pikes scenario, then we build the same system again.
We've been going through this cycle for a long time now and I don't see it changing anytime soon because we are more or less the same humans we were thousands of years ago, we just have higher tech now. And we go through the cycles because people who want it all, all the money, all the power, etc, enter business and politics and work their way up.
All we can do is try and keep it regulated a little and watch it doesn't get out of hand. I am in favor of a semi free market, comonly termed today a "fair market", I am not much of an anarchist at all, I don't think it can work with so many predators out there. It would be nice if it could though!
umm, really big business came up with that idea, not me. Their definition of "free" as practiced in the past did indeed involve just widespread universal pollution, even well after the fact of clear cut scientific data showing long term harm. They had to be *regulated* into a sort of not totally "free" market, bercause the bulk of them certainly weren't doing it voluntarily and "the market" was certainly not being "chosen" into anything very healthful. Without regs, we would be having a much worse environmental set of problems than what we currently enjoy. You can go to any number of nations to see this, places that have much laxer environmental regs, see how the folks are doing there, see how the planet in that region is doing. The "market" so far, left to just a few top business decision makers, likes pollution,it's a handy way to save cash and not spend it on something that only costs them money but brings little to no profit.. They also considered "free" to mean universal insider trading, cartels, monopolies-whatever the hell they felt like, six year olds pulling 14 hour shifts 7 days a week for pennies. It sucked man, it's that simple, and it is just historical data..
"We" as a collective society,as humans, just about almost everywhere you can point at, decided some laws/regulations/non "freeness" were in order, that's one of the main reasons we even have governments, to protect society in general from the really hungry predators. If those folks and practices didn't exist, well sure, we wouldn't hardly need governments or laws or regs at all, about zilch, but those sorts of predators do exist, hence why we need some regs and laws and collectively enforce them.
....granted, eye candy-ish, but maybe fun none the less, here's a few:
Imagine you have a ton of ebooks stored. Instead of a flat representation of folders and sub folders for labelling and navigation, you could walk around various rooms in your mansion until you got to the reading den, walls covered with bookshelves. As you zoom in you can see the titles on the binders, and you can "reach in" and select one and open it and start reading. Maybe you want to monitor the news and weather or listen to the game while you are reading, go over to the "TV" and select a channel, that screen now is displaying a real channel. The mouse moves your hand(s) of course. Same with music, choose from your "record collection", drag and plop it on a cyber turn table and it starts playing. Ditto movies. Say you want to chat with your friend, you could jump in your Flying car(finally!) and fly over to his house quickly and knock on the door, he opens it and you are now chatting. If you don't want a face to face, just "pick up the phone" and dial, just do audio then.
And stuff like that there, just take the idea of GUI into real life (RLUI- real life user interface) and do the stuff you normally would on the machine but with real world examples. Surfing the web? You are back in your flying car visting places (websites), or maybe you like flying by jet or taking a train nice and easy-whatever you want! A sailboat! It won't matter, because you choose what YOU like to have represented in the manner you want to accomplish the computer tasks. Going to your bank? Go there and the real teller you normally go to is there waiting to serve you, all 3-d looking like they really do look.. Transforming normal tasks into the real world similar examples would be sorta fun!
Every single one of these entertainmnet media schemes is relevant to them trying to find a way to keep making the same sort of money per copy they were back when making copies for redistribtion was expensive. Now that it has dropped to the incredibly cheap level, they will not lower prices to reflect this. Ever single one of these steps seeks to somehow keep a similar pricing level when it is not needed, they need drastically lowered prices to hold market now. And that's the problem, they simply will NOT lower prices down to a level that technological advances dictate as more fair pricing.
In the 20s, the flapper era, women sometimes wore short skirts, at least enough for the knees to be showing. I remember seeing a pic of one of my aunts all flappered out when she was a young babe, pretty funny really! She thought the old pic was a hoot, too. We were talking back in the hippie days and my dad had been raggin' on me for how I looked, how I dressed, etc, so she dug out some old photos of the family. Him in a ZOOT SUIT got me out of any more "you look weird" lectures!
Current modern distros are just too whopper big to deal with on dialup. If you miss the first week or so before you get the snail mail disks, you are stuck every day downloading and patching some huge amount, this way you can can at least wait a bit, let the first month of patches go out (always large once a LOT more people are running the release and finding the gotchas and figuring out the work arounds, THEN get your disks and start patching/updating. Just when you finally get your personal "stable" release all fully patched and tweaked and customized, WHAM, the next "new" one comes out.
So, what would be even *better* is end of release cycle fully updated and patched ISOs! I would love those! Once it drops into "extreme critical patches only" territory, until that runs out, (fedora legacy in this case) you can just get the now truly stable release and run it and have just a minimum amount of patching/downloading/updating. My workarond for this so far has been to just skip every other release, purely from the huge amount of downloading I can avoid.
Why is it their licenses to broadcast on the PUBLIC airwaves keeps getting a rubber stamp renewal? Are their offerings really that good, does the news they spew out really inform? Maybe we should just lobby to get these current networks off the air, to be replaced with new ones that might be more people friendly anyway and more honest? Their news is 3/4ths government propoganda, the rest industry propoganda for the most part. Their "shows" are pithy drivel designed as carriers so that some big business can make profits. Where is the "of the public benefit" angle at, I am not seeing it..
Here's a thought, it shouldn't be carved in stone that ANY profits are guaranteed to them by the FCC rubber stamp process. How about call it a night for them, they have had generations of sucking at the public teat to make money, how about we just tell them to go away and spend what they already made? Where is it in the constitution that industry x,y,z are guaranteed profits? IF the licensing process was truly fair, wouldn't it be nice to actually see the word NO applied to them once in awhile? Maybe they might get ordered to have no more than 5 minutes an hour commercials instead of 20% like they do now? I know I get told NO by the FCC if I try to get a commercial very low watt simple radio station, an assigned AM or FM freq, you have to be a multi millionaire to pull that off today, yet for some reason the big TV networks always seem to get renewed, and clear channel is allowed to suck up a HUGE chnk of the avaialble radio freqs. Why is that again, why are they guranteed access and profits? I know I have complained for years about their so called "public news coverage" that functions as an arm of crooked government and big business. How about the last presidential elections when the public airwaves news broadcasters would not insist on the credible larger third party candidates being on the stage with the D and R doofuses? How is that in the public interest all the time? And I know hundreds of thousands of other people have complained too, yet..always rubber stamped back into the guaranteed profits zone by the FCC "public servants".
Screw 'em, let someone else have a crack at it, they should just be denied renewal, they have been running a decades long lock down of the public airwaves. They want to be guaranteed *millionaires*, to hell with that noise. Let some other comapnies try some shows where they might be content with jst making a living, not being leeches off the public airwaves to maintain their millionaire status. Katie Couric is worth 15 million a year??? For WHAT? Because her network gets a rubber stamped guaranteed renewal for their "license"? Multiply that by all the other network "stars" and show "stars" and execs and crap like that in that "industry" and THAT is why we have SO MANY commercials that people WANT to skip them, it became an onerous gouging exploitation experience a long time ago and it need to END.
...an actual credible bona fide anti missile defense that really worked, the other major nuclear powers (china and russia) would be sorely tempted to launch a first strike before the new system was widely deployed. If they waited, it would place them in a position of being defenseless against an attack, without even a good chance of a good sized retaliatory stike. MAD only works when all the sides are at rough parity in other words.
I said there's too many movies out now, not interested in seeing them all right away. The 5 number I meant 5 dollars for a new disk hits my maximum of what I might pay for one, not 5 movies a weekend. Sorry for the confusion. I maybe watch a dozen or so movies a year now at the most. I have some I picked up more than a year ago I haven't even watched yet in fact.
this is just my subjective impression, but it appears that the sheer numbers of new movies seems to have gone up radically over the past decade or so. There are just so many movies that people want to watch I think, I know I dont care to see so many, certainly not all of them or even close to that. Seems like a long time ago, when a new "big" movie came out it was a relatively big deal, now its like every weekend there are a dozen (whatever) new movies. Same with bands and music for that matter.
Like I said, subjective, I have no actual hard numbers to point at.
As to the kiosks, I think it could be a fine way to do it if the movie plays in anything called a DVD player and if the discs are significantly cheaper than what you get now off the shelf. The main problem is disks need to be around three bucks, not 20 dollars.
*snort* We bought some movies yesterday out weekend yard saling, I got VHS tapes three for a dollar. Thats about the only way I buy movies or music now, used and at a cheap reasonable price. At 20 bucks, I buy zero movies. Under ten dollars I start to think about it, bargain bin new 5 or under I grab a few if I feel like it.
which "it" from the 60s are you referring to? Ion propulsion or what?
I can build a reasonably good enough system (reusing my old drives and case and ram, etc, just doing a mobo/cpu upgrade)(or do it from some old pentium junker), AND load the OS and apps for what a copy of OSX or XP costs normal retail, and with OSX you are stuck running the hardware they pick out and choose for you, plus it is mostly non free software and a ton of the extra apps cost serious folding money.
I am right this second running Austrumi 1.20,(just DLed and burnt it today and booted it for a test drive) at only 50 megs under windows manager Enlightenment 17, runs entirely from RAM,meaning it is about as fast as stuff can run basically,plus it frees up the optical drive, I mean, nothing from mac or windows can touch it, either from a systems resources point of view or from a speed or functionality point of view at *50 megs total*, or from a cost in cash POV. Then you can go to any of the big name brand full sized linux distros of choice if you want to fit your machine of choice, at virtually any budget, ten bucks used at the thriftstore to ten million dollars custom high end hardware at acme advanced secret research, inc..
Theres really no comparison what you can do with Linux as opposed to whatever you can drag away from from Apple or MS. They make you fit their idea of computing, Linux lets the individual custom tailor what they want to do with computing. Except maybe for running a few niche or necessary/obscure applications, but for over-all generalised use...no comparison any longer. You can take the linux kernel and run on any sized low budget normal machine all the way up to multi node super computers with about any sort of application you can think of, all for minimal to zero initial software cost. Thats what is so cool about linux, eXtreme flexibility, and you got a choice from totally free in cost to pay for as much handholding as is necessary. *Choice*
- good integration and commercial support-you can go for free to whatever you want to spend with linux support, unlimited
- carries the name of a recognized brand-Linux is so far mainstream now, every single major media outlet has carried numerous articles for years, it needs no further introduction, its like saying, "welcome to the 21st century, we have cars now, check em out!"
- something different that has a reputation for rock solid stability-WAY more config diffs under linux then under mac or windows and stability is a non issue, its *there*, it is a major bragging point.
- user-friendly-pure command line for the fattest gray haired gurus all the way to very nice looking (this e17 is *nice*) and functional GUI, its the same deal realistically now, user friendly for most any user, and you have a LOT more choices with linux
And the most important part?? Freedom. You can look at any tiny detail and change it to whatever you want, total freedom. You aint getting that from apple or MS.....
Look at the one laptop per child project, arguably the largest planned technological rollout to the most people ever conceived, the goal is stick a laptop in the hands of every kid on earth eventually. This will be known in future history as a serious major turning point once it starts happening, and it looks pretty good it will. Now, they had to choose,the softare is a critical part of this ambitious undertaking, they looked at it, MS and Apple-not even in the running for a project of this grand a vision. Default resource hogs and no freedom at all knocked them out early in the considerations.
...right here "Most people also think that music piracy would go down significantly if a music CD had a resonable price."
IF the music and movie industry were to realise that they could make more net profit with volume sales at a MUCH more reasonable price for relatively cheap to make plastic stamped discs hardly none of this piracy action would have occurred in the first place. It is ludicrous to charge 20 dollars for a cheap disk. Look at the cost of production/transportation/warehousing, etc of a VHS tape as compared to a stamped disc, yet they want similar money for them. So why is this again? It makes no sense whatsoever unless you use the word "gouging", which I realise is subjective, but still...
If the entertainmnert industry wants to get this behind them, I suggest a few dollars *tops* for a stamped entertainment disc as the answer. It wouldn't completely eliminate so called "piracy", but they would see sales and net profits skyrocket. There is a simple fact of retail life here, people can see and react to gouging, and the entertainment industry just refuses to admit they are, in fact, serious chronic gougers. Their prices have NOT dropped and kept up with technological advances that make the reduced cost of duplication and distribution possible.
I doubt there will ever be a cheap/easy/affordable way to do this with chemical reaction rockets. If there was it would have been thunked up by now, doncha think? What you see is what ya get, big ole rockets carrying a relatively small amount of stuff up at great cost.
We won't become much of a space faring race until we have *advanced physics drives of some sort that work with gravitrons or something along those lines.
*note:said "advanced". We need to be able to understand and manipulate gravity in some fashion, right now the best we can do is we sort of measure it AFAIK.
One chemical alternative: wildcard long shot: could we build rockets where the structure (parts of it anyway) of the rocket itself could be transferred to being fuel? A cannibalizing rocket in other words, save a lot of weight that way and get more fuel to orbit.
This idea is a variation on the "caseless ammo" concept. I saw one of these rifles before that used this sort of ammo, made by Daisy the BB gun guys, it worked perfectly fine, no brass at all. The concept never caught on much, but it worked. So maybe there is a way there to get a lot more fuel into orbit for much less cost than currently. Don't ask me for a detailed chemical composition outline though, no idea, just the concept of cannibalizing rockets.
I was only commenting on the red tinted water from wells, I have no idea whatsoever on the Indian sky/rain falling bacteria or whatever it is.
That it fell off and on for a couple of months I *think* would eliminate a rogue meteor and transpermia action*, which would leave wind patterns normal for that time of year picking up dust upwind someplace with a tint to it and/or something like red tide algae from over water, or, less likely but still possible, some sort of extensive black ops missions with atmospheric spraying of some exotic man made substance. We would need a lot better analysis of the substance in question to begin to proceed here. I am not really believing the no DNA claims yet. If it fell off and on for two months there should be a lot more samples someplace.
*I don't know if we were going through any particular concentrated meteor swarm at the time, something like the Perseids, etc, but not noticed before. I find that unlikely though. the initial report from the local residents describe a large boom in the sky that preceeded the first red-stuff drop, that part is the screwiest to me, because then for two months the red rain fell, but no additional sky booms. Anything deposited like that from a meteor would have spread all over, not remained in one small area.
So-I big fat "I dunno".
The red tint can easily come from bacteria called iron bacteria. I am familiar with water wells and the necessity sometimes for disinfecting and filtering the water before use from those microbes.(having the old lady go medieval on you from her losing a set of all-whites in the wash is a good motivator for research and corrective actions with said infected well :p ) Here is a URL for your perusal on this subject
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http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/wells/ironb
where is it even in the market place for consumers to have a choice in the matter? You got some serious assumptions you are putting out there as fact, so let's see some proof to it. Where is normal joe surfer software (the OS, some normal userland apps, etc) for sale that comes with a warranty instead of an end user license that says "nothing is our fault" and "this software provided as is, might not be suitable for a dang thing, hope U R feelin lucky"??
bad car analogy time
This is like the car companies saying there was "no market" for electric cars, even though they never put any out there to begin with, and the leased all electrics went like hotcakes and the leasees BEGGED to be able to buy them, yet most got crushed in still fine working order.
You put a good OS and browser and a few more apps out there with a guarantee and warranty that YES indeedy you can use this on the internet and not get hosed and pwned and your printer will work and etc,and see what happens.
People are already dropping serious coin on fixes all the time, so why wouldn't they drop coin on stuff that doesn't need much fixin to begin with?
The rest of industry (I mean A to Z, the *rest of industry*) has come to grips with building to such a quality level that the rate of recall and fixes under warranty is under control, they can still "do business" and "make money" at it. None of their stuff is 100% perfect,none of it, but they got to the point it is plenty good enough, because they got REQUIRED to provide a certain minimal level warranty, even though when it was finally imposed on them they all cried crocodile tears and claimed it wouldn't work and put them all out of business, it just wasn't possible, OMGBBQ we'd have to charge so much money no one will buy our stuff! And other such whines like we hear now from the digital bits vendors. The other industries managed *just fine*.
Software is the last major industry allowed to push snakeoil under the "caveat emptor" rules, way past time that got changed.
And I think for most consumers it would work like this:you charge us serious cash, we want a warranty, you want to give it away as betaware for freebies or cost of media and duplication or download, we'll take it for free and maybe pay a very low reasonable amount of periodic bug fixes.
But charging serious folding cash then no warranty with your "full stable release" stuff is the problem, it is not the solution.
As it is now, we have no consumer choice, pay money for bugs, or download stuff for free with bugs, where is the "very little bugs to begin with at a reasonable price" stuff? I would bet that is what *most* people would eventually go to if it was there to choose from.
You can't get cable or satellite a la carte service yet, you must pop for the whole bundle, then new movies, extra, etc. Plus, a lot of people might be in the OTA signal range of a PBS station, but not have any broadband capability, so they usually have just POTS lines with dialup connections, which means no movie downloading.
Near as I can see it, this service is an alternative to running to blockbuster for people where every trip is a long drive, suburbanites and rural people.
You are automatically equating protest with the word disruptive. Look what you have written. This alone proves you have little idea what you are talking about, nor have you been paying attention to the long past history of political "protesting". And before the knee jerk denial that you said that, look what you wrote.
I have personally witnessed this violation of rights BS and been the target of cops at *completely* peaceful protests where they went apeshit under some orders and attacked the crowd, going back to civil rights days, pre-anti nam war days, and from then onwards. Not to say violent protests don't happen as well, I won't deny that, but by no means are they all, most usually at least start out peaceful until the overt or covert(yes, this happens) functionaires start the violence, giving them the excuse to go nuts. I have seen it too many times now to not know this isn't SOP with them.
It does no good if you can't assemble where the action is, 10 miles down the road behind a fence is not "the right to assemble",the government has placed illegal and unconstitutional restrictions on a right, they have said you need "permission" to exercise a born-with right. This is illegal. That right no where states you have the right to assemble where THEY tell you to assemble. That's something they just started doing because they got the guns and follow orders from their "superior beings" whomever those entities are.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
It does not state you have "some" rights to assemble or that you can only assemble in some designated "zone". Show us where it says that, I have provided the full quote. If you can, I'll concede gracefully, but I have read that numerous times in my life, and can't seem to see those little clauses you insist are there. If it is public property, you have a right to assemble there (obviously personal private property is a different subject entirely), you have the right to your speech, and the right to be heard with your petitions, whether the petitions are oral, written, or visual, as petitions could take any or all of those forms. We the people have a right to tell our elected folks what we think about what is going on. Period. If they keep trying to dodge the petition, they are violating their duties as elected people, no matter what media form the petition is in. They can't refuse the petition. They can't legally order their mercenaries to keep you away from them when you are trying to deliver your petition to them, but they constantly do that. I know why of course, it's because by and large they are mostly corrupt crooks and want to keep their cushy well paying jobs and positions of "rule" over people.
If you got a political beef, you and your peers have a right to assemble, and to petition the government. That's it, it is that simple ancd clearly the intent of the founders. they were just coming from a time where the redcoats broke up crowds, told them they couldn't be in the town square in a group, arrested "ring leaders' for their "speech", kept them from "petitioning" the crown's authorities, etc, that's why the amendment was written exactly like that. It is beyond clear. They do NOT have the right to restrict you in such a way that they are dodging their duties as governmental workers/politicans/or functionaires, they are REQUIRED to listen to your petitions as acceptance of their official office, to follow the laws. Yes, they have to listen. They still might not agree with your petition, but they have a duty that goes with their oath. And if you come in a group, to show solidarity and the numbers,i.e., an assemblage, too bad, that is a free persons right.
They are NOT RULERS, we are NOT SUBJECTS, much as they and apparently you seem to believ
Too funny, they already have traffic cops + the automated lights! At the same time! I was watching this once in Atlanta, I was crackin up how insanely stupid it was. Two fast food joints right next to each other, noon time rush. Now here, you can RENT a real cop, with his official uniform on, the whole deal, badge and gun, but he is off duty-but still on duty because cops are always on duty, something like that. You must OBEY CITIZEN! It is so much an hour to hire one of these official mercenaries. These two fast food joints had the renta cops "directing traffic", thoroughly screwing up the flow of trafffic with the automated lights nearby, so that their restaurant customers could get in and out of the parking lots fast. Here's the funny part, it was a WAR to see which cop had the most authority presence and could get HIS customers in an out even when the cop just 100 or so feet away was giving CONFLICTING SIGNALS by hand and whistle, stop, go ahead and turn, yield to these guys turning, etc. It was HILARIOUS (unless you were an unlucky driver just trying to drive on down the road by the normal rules and lights and not patronize either restuarant) and a microcosm of what is clearly wrong with the so called law and justice system.
...were found on a person at Megamall, therefore all people at Megamall can be arrested and all items confiscated as evidence.
Honestly, they don't care, they just follow orders, about the same anyplace in the world, there's no over-all practical difference between nations in this regard.
Currently my favorite one they "enforce" in the US is "free speech zones". They swear an "oath" to the Constitution then go ahead and "follow orders" with that concept.
I sort of like the idea of a crank or windup clockwork spring generator for additional electrical supply, like the MIT laptop was originally supposed to have. If it is spring and clockwork, you don't have to wind for a long time, my baygen/freeplay radios (they have flashlights, too) you can wind completely up in less than a minute, then they give 30 minutes radio. I know it wouldn't last as long with a laptop, but it would be *some* emergency power as your battery started to go. There's even a foot powered generator you could get, throw it on the floor and just a slow pumping action acts as a generator, leaving your hands free and not bothering the computer. Something like this, perhaps a bit beefier the Stepcharger
It's the distance, man. WAY too many places in the US have no broadband at all with cable/wires/fiber and wifi is too short a range and trees and hills just muck it up.. WiMax is about the only way I'll get broadband, even then it will be iffy, and there are millions and millions more people in the same boat. the US is not just the top major urban areas afrter all and even a lot of suburban areas have little to no choice in broadband. If some companies get wimax out there, they WILL sell it. All these people still on dialup will go to it if it works and it is at least a reasonable cost. As it is now I pop for a phone line just to get net access, I don't *need* the land line phone, my cell works fine for phone calls, so wimax would maybe be cheaper than dialup!
I honestly have no rational way to completely reply to your assumptions about me, but I will try. I am well past "grown up". I am what is politely called a paleocon (I worked the goldwater campaign if that helps place me in ideology and age for you), although now I just use either nationalist or traditionalist or constitutionalist, that part doesn't matter, I am *against* fraud/crooks/conmen/overt predatory exploitation. I support neither the R nor D party at this point in time. I also worked a lot of conservation issues in the past because I believe in being a good steward of the Earth. I practice what I preach, I don't drive much, no commuting, only work on a farm, produce food through hard labor, grow a lot of my own organic food, invested in some solar tech, keep old devices running to not contribute so much to waste, etc. I make a buck and spend a buck, but am not adverse to sharing as much as I can either with friends and neighbors. I am not totally against the theoretical concept of free trade, just I don't think it will work given man's basic nature, and judging by the closest examples we can find in contemporary and older history, I can see how it probably won't, it de-evolves into the biggest most ruthless predators "win" and hurt a lot of people in the process. I don't wish it so, but them's the facts near as I can see it. I don't subscribe to the concept of globalism as it is practiced and pushed now, because moving capital digits is a lot easier for megabigco than moving people, and it isn't fair of some nations elected government and partners in transglobal business to shaft their own citizens in favor of others and a few very rich people at the top. You don't just dump on your own people in other words.
I think it is far better to maintain a larger middle class for the overall good of society, using a real strong economy, not an inflated budget debt scam economy that is paraded and charaded as somehow "good" when it clearly isn't.. I don't really believe in shifting still viable jobs, but in creating new ones in new areas, that way, no one suffers as much and everyone gets bettered across the board, this nation AND that other nation over yonder someplace. I don't think a viable national economy can exist in a very large nation *unless* it stays well diversified, which would include basic manufacturing and agriculture. And etc.
I think "fair" trade with some common sense regs is a better idea overall than the stuff that is being pushed by the globalists today with "free" trade. When THEY say "free", they mean they are free to do whatever THEY like and screw everyone else because they can squeeze a few more short term dollars out of people with no regard to the future.
I think that concept sucks. We can do better by having a more informed and aware and less ruthless presence at the top of the economic and political food chains than what we have now. I would think the political and big business scandals of the past few years would be more than ample evidence of why this is needed. When you are lead in business and politics by crooks liars thieves and thugs that is the society they create. It makes no difference what the snakeoil sellers are selling,just that people can recognize it is in fact "snakeoil" and move reduce that sort of behavior. The alternative method proposed starts personal from the individual and works up from there. The top to bottom power pyramid we have now is the part that isn't working that well, because at the top we have...well, to be blunt, crazy and greedy and ruthless people. We don't need to keep them as role models or think their business methods are all that great. Some do, but I certainly do not, and am not shy in stating it.
They starved to death because back then the landowners, the "lords", took the farmers food as "taxes". It was hard enough to scratch out a living, near impossible once half or more of that living got taken by force of the "lords" men at arms with swords and orders to confiscate.
Those kids wouldn't have starved near as much if the farmers and their families got to keep the bulk of their food.
"natural backlash against your proposed MEGABIGCO"..
that's why I mentioned the "heads on pikes" deal, it is what we have seen so far that happens once big gov/big business etc get overly huge and powerful and once they become "the same thing", then that's it, it happens, a big collapse usually preceeded by some heinous tyranny, you then get a violent backlash,the heads on pikes scenario, then we build the same system again.
We've been going through this cycle for a long time now and I don't see it changing anytime soon because we are more or less the same humans we were thousands of years ago, we just have higher tech now. And we go through the cycles because people who want it all, all the money, all the power, etc, enter business and politics and work their way up.
All we can do is try and keep it regulated a little and watch it doesn't get out of hand. I am in favor of a semi free market, comonly termed today a "fair market", I am not much of an anarchist at all, I don't think it can work with so many predators out there. It would be nice if it could though!
umm, really big business came up with that idea, not me. Their definition of "free" as practiced in the past did indeed involve just widespread universal pollution, even well after the fact of clear cut scientific data showing long term harm. They had to be *regulated* into a sort of not totally "free" market, bercause the bulk of them certainly weren't doing it voluntarily and "the market" was certainly not being "chosen" into anything very healthful. Without regs, we would be having a much worse environmental set of problems than what we currently enjoy. You can go to any number of nations to see this, places that have much laxer environmental regs, see how the folks are doing there, see how the planet in that region is doing. The "market" so far, left to just a few top business decision makers, likes pollution,it's a handy way to save cash and not spend it on something that only costs them money but brings little to no profit.. They also considered "free" to mean universal insider trading, cartels, monopolies-whatever the hell they felt like, six year olds pulling 14 hour shifts 7 days a week for pennies. It sucked man, it's that simple, and it is just historical data..
"We" as a collective society,as humans, just about almost everywhere you can point at, decided some laws/regulations/non "freeness" were in order, that's one of the main reasons we even have governments, to protect society in general from the really hungry predators. If those folks and practices didn't exist, well sure, we wouldn't hardly need governments or laws or regs at all, about zilch, but those sorts of predators do exist, hence why we need some regs and laws and collectively enforce them.