What good does it really do to put these tiles on the inside of the PC case? It's been my experience that most PC noise is caused by the fans themselves blowing air.
This is what fans do right? And yeah, it's a tough nut to crack, because quiteing the fans means limiting their airflow somehow. Limiting the airflow means that eventually our something inside our boxen is going to start to smell like burnt toast.
As CPU's have gotten faster and required more cooling, I've noticed that machines have gotten louder and louder. I have a p2 200 with 2 fans, that I thought was louder than the 486 it replaced. It's insanely quiet compared to the p3 and p4 I use now. (3 and 4 fans)
It seems to me that the internal sounds of a PC (minus the fans) are the drives. Not for nothing, but it's really not that loud or distracting.
The sound charts in the article even seem to reflect this. So he loses 2 or 3 DB's with the tile. He's erasing the drive sounds. So what?
I also wonder what he's doing to the airflow inside the machine. Good would be, smaller inside volume, faster airflow. But he's also covering the front vents of the machine. Less places for the air to go. Not so good....
I understand. In my case I don't have the floorspace for a second printer. Even if I did, I probably still wouldn't get one because I don't want to be bothererd worrying about getting the right paper, and inks. Besides the cost of the second printer itself.
It's easier for me to drop a bunch of files on a CD and bring them to the place where I get my regular film developed. This is just my way of getting this done.
So your way works for you, my way works for me. We're both happy I think.:)
Personally I see no need to print in color. Most documents that I would actually print (word, visio etc) look fine in greyscale. And I've had the same experiences with toner, the cartridges are expensive, but they last forever.
I just dumped a 10 year old Epson laser last year. Only because I needed more memory(the 1 meg printer was choking on large documents and flowcharts). Epson memory for my model was like $50 a meg And the printer had a 4 meg max. (Would have been $150 for 3 megs of memory) So instead I got a new HP for $450.(16 megs, 1200 dpi).
Interestingly, the toner cartridge for the old Epson was 25% full. If I didn't have the memory requirement, i probably could have gotten another 2 years out of the toner.
The only thing I can think of reasonably needing a color printer for is photographs. And I figure: why bother? If I need a print of digital photos, I just send them off the service. They come back on photographic paper, looking almost as good as prints from my SLR.
I don't think that anyone is going to be able to pull of a highjacking for a very, very long time. If ever again.
I think that after seeing the atrocities at the WTC and Pentagon, and the bravery and sacrifice of the passangers of the flight out of Newark, people are ready to give their lives to prevent somethig like this from ever happening again.
>>Personally I think people need to get over the whole "they will see you naked bit" whoopdedoo, I have a penis so does 49%+/-1% of the population.
Amen brother. If I had points I'd mod you insightful.
We're all the same... and after a short while that's how it'd look to the screeners.
Perhaps in order to keep the screeners from getting their jollies (by seeing the subject in person, then in the scan) the console could be kept out of sight of the machine itself. If the operator sees something prohibited, all he's gotta do is hit a panic button.
Hot or not she sure looks happy. My guess is she's delighted to part of the OOS movement, and she's anxious to get to work helping Lindow's new clients get the most out of their machines.
Either that or she's happy to be getting boinked by the president of the company.
This is offtopic, but it's a reply to the parent's views about charity.
When I was young and impressionable (and I gave a s*it) I used to give money to charity. The United Way, Save the Children etc.
I also used to give money to panhandlers if they had the balls to come up to me and ask.
But that all changed one evening in 1987. I was riding home on the Staten Island Ferry and a big dude, who I've contributed to before came to me and asked for a handout. He said he was hungry. The usual speech. But what I noticed that totally pissed me off was that he had 2 big cans of Budweiser in his 'shopping cart'.
So I cut him off, telling him that he has money for beer, he doesn't need my money.
From that day on the only charity I've ever contributed to is 'Save Selfish Me'.
Other guys have Hummers or big bad Harleys. That's not enough for Bill...
He's got the biggest Monopoly in the world, the fattest checkbook, and a huge house built into the side of a mountain. These things more than make up for whatever else may be lacking.
Hell, Melinda always has a big smile on. Something's going on there, and I don't think it's all about Billy's 'joystick'.
I guess the first company I'm going to SCO is McDonalds. They have untill Friday to stop making hamburger rolls. Otherwise I'm going to revoke their license.
Then after I take out the big guy, I'm going to go after Wonder Bread.
It depends on how you count. Would the counting be per person, or per machine?
I have 5 machines here at home. 3 are all LINUX all the time functioning as servers / workstations. 2 are dual boot windows/linux machines with Win as the primary OS. 1 of these dual boots is a laptop.
So am I 1 guy running LINUX? Or am I contributing 5 LINUX machines to the 'count'?
He turned something not so good into an opprotunity to learn and try something new. I know that it's not really a big deal, lots of/. ers are like that, but it still feels good to read about a guy making something good out of something bad.
>>There are? I can think of CrystalSpace, and Quake II as the only decent open-source FPS engines (and none of them is that good, compared to the likes of DoomIII, HL2, Halo2, etc),
Um, Doom 3 is still in dev and it's not open source. Check back in 2007 after John C writes his next masterpiece. But that's not my point.
How can you say that the Q2 engine isn't any good? WTF? How many games have been built on top of that codebase? Besides Q2 itself?
Yeah. Maybe when you can actually write an engine youself, you'll have the right to say that another product sucks.
I was there in 1997. Comdex itself was handing out thick books full of ads, daily newspapers, big plastic shopping bags, t-shirts.... I think I saw a couple of frisbees and coffe mugs floating around the floor too.
Though the amount of stuff handed out by the vendors was far greater. I've never seen so many useless things in my life.
Anway, I've never been back. I went there with high hopes and the show was a big dud.
>>Greetings people of Earth. I am the ambassador from the Galactic Federation. Now that you have achieved the required levels of societal and technological advancement, we are allowed to make contact.
IBM employees are commiting suicide at the walls of Santa Cruz. There are no IBM employees anywhere despite what the infidel media tells you (big blue tank rolls by). Darl is alive an well and is vowing revenge on the infidels. Even now the infidel pirates are pinned down while our brave sons and lawyers vigorously fight for our Intellectual Property. (in the distance we see raged SCO employees who haven't been paid for months hugging and kissing the IBM lawyers)......
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What good does it really do to put these tiles on the inside of the PC case? It's been my experience that most PC noise is caused by the fans themselves blowing air.
This is what fans do right? And yeah, it's a tough nut to crack, because quiteing the fans means limiting their airflow somehow. Limiting the airflow means that eventually our something inside our boxen is going to start to smell like burnt toast.
As CPU's have gotten faster and required more cooling, I've noticed that machines have gotten louder and louder. I have a p2 200 with 2 fans, that I thought was louder than the 486 it replaced. It's insanely quiet compared to the p3 and p4 I use now. (3 and 4 fans)
It seems to me that the internal sounds of a PC (minus the fans) are the drives. Not for nothing, but it's really not that loud or distracting.
The sound charts in the article even seem to reflect this. So he loses 2 or 3 DB's with the tile. He's erasing the drive sounds. So what?
I also wonder what he's doing to the airflow inside the machine. Good would be, smaller inside volume, faster airflow. But he's also covering the front vents of the machine. Less places for the air to go. Not so good....
>>Well, exactly! That's what I bought it for.
:)
I understand. In my case I don't have the floorspace for a second printer. Even if I did, I probably still wouldn't get one because I don't want to be bothererd worrying about getting the right paper, and inks. Besides the cost of the second printer itself.
It's easier for me to drop a bunch of files on a CD and bring them to the place where I get my regular film developed. This is just my way of getting this done.
So your way works for you, my way works for me. We're both happy I think.
Personally I see no need to print in color. Most documents that I would actually print (word, visio etc) look fine in greyscale. And I've had the same experiences with toner, the cartridges are expensive, but they last forever.
I just dumped a 10 year old Epson laser last year. Only because I needed more memory(the 1 meg printer was choking on large documents and flowcharts). Epson memory for my model was like $50 a meg And the printer had a 4 meg max. (Would have been $150 for 3 megs of memory) So instead I got a new HP for $450.(16 megs, 1200 dpi).
Interestingly, the toner cartridge for the old Epson was 25% full. If I didn't have the memory requirement, i probably could have gotten another 2 years out of the toner.
The only thing I can think of reasonably needing a color printer for is photographs. And I figure: why bother? If I need a print of digital photos, I just send them off the service. They come back on photographic paper, looking almost as good as prints from my SLR.
>>Successful developers have the market modified to fit its products. Think Cisco.
Strangely enough this also applies to Microsoft.
I don't think that anyone is going to be able to pull of a highjacking for a very, very long time. If ever again.
I think that after seeing the atrocities at the WTC and Pentagon, and the bravery and sacrifice of the passangers of the flight out of Newark, people are ready to give their lives to prevent somethig like this from ever happening again.
"Lets Roll"
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Sure, Google can be God. Why not? Afterall, we already know who Satan is.
>>Personally I think people need to get over the whole "they will see you naked bit" whoopdedoo, I have a penis so does 49%+/-1% of the population.
Amen brother. If I had points I'd mod you insightful.
We're all the same... and after a short while that's how it'd look to the screeners.
Perhaps in order to keep the screeners from getting their jollies (by seeing the subject in person, then in the scan) the console could be kept out of sight of the machine itself. If the operator sees something prohibited, all he's gotta do is hit a panic button.
Just a thought.
Yeah great. Piss, shit. What other foul body ejections can we talk about...
How about projectile vomit? If I think of SCO one more time.... ugh..... blaaahhhhhh............
So I guess that Java Enterprise Edition is a big enough bag of coffee beans for a historic 5 year mission?
Hot or not she sure looks happy. My guess is she's delighted to part of the OOS movement, and she's anxious to get to work helping Lindow's new clients get the most out of their machines.
Either that or she's happy to be getting boinked by the president of the company.
This is offtopic, but it's a reply to the parent's views about charity.
When I was young and impressionable (and I gave a s*it) I used to give money to charity. The United Way, Save the Children etc.
I also used to give money to panhandlers if they had the balls to come up to me and ask.
But that all changed one evening in 1987. I was riding home on the Staten Island Ferry and a big dude, who I've contributed to before came to me and asked for a handout. He said he was hungry. The usual speech. But what I noticed that totally pissed me off was that he had 2 big cans of Budweiser in his 'shopping cart'.
So I cut him off, telling him that he has money for beer, he doesn't need my money.
From that day on the only charity I've ever contributed to is 'Save Selfish Me'.
>>He could have, however, given every person in the USA $200 and still had a billion left to spare. This in its self is not exactly trivial!
Yeah, but why give it away when instead you can 'force' the populace to pay you $89.95 every couple of years?
Other guys have Hummers or big bad Harleys. That's not enough for Bill...
He's got the biggest Monopoly in the world, the fattest checkbook, and a huge house built into the side of a mountain. These things more than make up for whatever else may be lacking.
Hell, Melinda always has a big smile on. Something's going on there, and I don't think it's all about Billy's 'joystick'.
So far we have patents for Fire and the Wheel.
I'm going to claim the patent for Baked Bread.
I guess the first company I'm going to SCO is McDonalds. They have untill Friday to stop making hamburger rolls. Otherwise I'm going to revoke their license.
Then after I take out the big guy, I'm going to go after Wonder Bread.
>>Now, do these folks add up to 4% of the market?
It depends on how you count. Would the counting be per person, or per machine?
I have 5 machines here at home. 3 are all LINUX all the time functioning as servers / workstations. 2 are dual boot windows/linux machines with Win as the primary OS. 1 of these dual boots is a laptop.
So am I 1 guy running LINUX? Or am I contributing 5 LINUX machines to the 'count'?
This guy is a true geek.
/. ers are like that, but it still feels good to read about a guy making something good out of something bad.
He turned something not so good into an opprotunity to learn and try something new. I know that it's not really a big deal, lots of
>>There are? I can think of CrystalSpace, and Quake II as the only decent open-source FPS engines (and none of them is that good, compared to the likes of DoomIII, HL2, Halo2, etc),
Um, Doom 3 is still in dev and it's not open source. Check back in 2007 after John C writes his next masterpiece. But that's not my point.
How can you say that the Q2 engine isn't any good? WTF? How many games have been built on top of that codebase? Besides Q2 itself?
Yeah. Maybe when you can actually write an engine youself, you'll have the right to say that another product sucks.
I was there in 1997. Comdex itself was handing out thick books full of ads, daily newspapers, big plastic shopping bags, t-shirts.... I think I saw a couple of frisbees and coffe mugs floating around the floor too.
Though the amount of stuff handed out by the vendors was far greater. I've never seen so many useless things in my life.
Anway, I've never been back. I went there with high hopes and the show was a big dud.
Please give the parent a +1 insightful.
He's absolutely right about a win emulator on LINUX helping folks keep their old apps running.
MSFT has been getting away with forcing people to upgrade for far too long now.
>>I go to the bar to try to get laid. The Internet doesn't belong in a bar. It doesn't impress drunk chicks.
Yeah, but if you're out of condoms and KY jelly, it'd be useful to be able to google for an open drugstore.
And maybe for an open liquor store as well.
>>Greetings people of Earth. I am the ambassador from the Galactic Federation. Now that you have achieved the required levels of societal and technological advancement, we are allowed to make contact.
And we have come here to serve man.
She's really a secratary. She dropped a fake eyelash in that big machine-whatever it is.
She's using her steno pen move the circut board thingies becasue her boss told her not to touch them because of the static electricity.
When she's done looking for the eyelash, she's going to sit back down at her transcription machine and hope her boss notices her low cut blouse.
IBM employees are commiting suicide at the walls of Santa Cruz. There are no IBM employees anywhere despite what the infidel media tells you (big blue tank rolls by). Darl is alive an well and is vowing revenge on the infidels. Even now the infidel pirates are pinned down while our brave sons and lawyers vigorously fight for our Intellectual Property. (in the distance we see raged SCO employees who haven't been paid for months hugging and kissing the IBM lawyers)......
>>We always talk about SCO, SCO, SCO but I realized I have no clue about what IBM's response is...
Some possibilities:
Shoo fly.
Shut up and sit down.
Surely you're not talking to me like that. YOU couldn't possibly be THAT dumb right?
You got a problem? Wanna take it outside little man?
I thought I heard something like a threat. But it was probably just the wind.