It was well founded. And it was NOT proven false. As any GOOD movie does not spell everything out so someone with an 80 IQ can get it; which is refreshing, given that other movies talk down to the viewers.
They did NOT explain neo's rising to the NEXT level at the end of #2; which is what people WANTED, but did not get. Its not like they need to beat you over the head with another repeat with matrix level 2. Then people would complain that this movie was a rehash of #1...Can't please everyone...
It did not get proven wrong by any means. They did not prove anything. It was all open to questioning, which is at the heart of the WHOLE THING!
The strong base in existentialism of the movies should justify their plot and direction plenty. I see a lot that goes unexplained, which means people will fill up gigs of space writing about it who would otherwise just be playing games, porn, or watching sports.
Ah, but you gave her $5. Its HER choice as to what to do with it. It only illustrated why she was in that position.
Net result is you TRIED, she failed.
But you can not possibly know what or why people are in the position they are in. So, are you really being taken advantage of or is it more that she is abusing herself?
There is no answer to ever be found; which makes it a great cop-out.
So, "why do you keep going?"
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my best "answer", would be to provide the minimum 4 everyone. Where they go from there is up to them. Not everybody HAS a choice.
dependancy or not --dependancy is purely relative. There is plenty of dependancy and other problems to keep people motivated in their endless pursuit for freedom from their own problems. (aka happyness)
even if a company got a monopoly from being popular or good, it is irrelivant. Once a company gets that powerful, the bloat and greed set in---because after all its run by humans.
Its no different that putting term limits on politians. Eventually things turn sour, and something needs to change.
term limits == monopoly breakup
Take apache, it breaks the pattern, because unlike the company or political rep, people can change it and fork off their own branches. That characteristic is unique to open source.
proof that an undergrad can do better than a bunch of pros....or proof that they WANT mistakes so that those who know can cheat; and if they get found, they can play dumb.
Keep it up, you'll probably be sited as an example at some point that even a student can do better in a few weeks of time.
If you supposedly looked it up then, didn't you notice that the render engine is a framework? Can't you just use their HTML & JavaScript framework and forget about the details?
With the webcore source, can't you figure out that method's syntax and still use it yourself? Just 1 method is all you found? sounds like they just missed something somewhere to me.
Duh, the best parts are closed because that is what makes it Apple. They need to stay in business you know--that darn capitialist thing...
More companies should open source the stuff that is not unique to them, like Apple is doing. They open a lot of stuff and you complain its not everything.
I have no problem with companies doing closed source on top of open source. It only makes things better, and them dependant on the open source--which at some point they need to contribute back to.
I'd like it if Apple realized ATSUI was no longer a big deal and open sourced that as well. Like they did with openplay. Perhaps they will.
Reguardless of motives, this is GOOD. If they win, MS loses, if they lose than IP laws get weaker. Either way MS loses $$$. After they win, they could hurt us, in which case, either laws change, or we become less dependant on browser plug-ins. If anything it makes the public more aware of the stupid lawyers running the country.
nope, you must not understand. You completely missed the point.
You quoted the line but you did not get it. I did not say what you infered.
Sure paper systems can be 'hacked' and have been. Big deal. Electronic systems can be hacked BETTER and HAVE BEEN. What is worse, we will never catch them, and have not even had officials recognize that there was cheating! At least with paper records, its possible to do something.
Electronic systems without a readable paper trail are litterally a million times worse! (They COST MORE too.)
Know what my state uses? paper & pencil. Its counted by machine, but it can be done by hand and the voter can see how they voted clearly.
Just think about it. SIMPLE IS BETTER. The more layers of abstraction from the actual vote data the more places things can be done. The more direct the better.
Canada does it better. Its all done by hand, and its so CLEAR that nobody can claim error. A single counter can't change the outcome, onless it gets close. Not to mention they can if they have to trace it back to the bad counter, the counter has no defense.
The answer: Do what Canada does. Slow but cheap. Perhaps add a randomly assigned second count. no 2% error, which is unacceptable.
I'd like to decrypt the files without recompression too, but WHY would I want to put in the time?
Simple, I can do anything I want with my 3 computers! The DRM is non-existant for me, so its simple not WORTH MY TIME TO HACK IT!
Just because I'd feel a little better, is not enough to invest the time to hack it. If I want to get it out at ANY TIME I can just use dozens of decode-encode methods to get it out.
The lack of motivation, and the abundance of easier alternatives with know percevable loss in quality means that hardly anyone will want to invest the time to hack it.
The worse the DRM, the more people are motivated to break it. This is the best DRM I've ever seen. I'm not even bothering 2 transcode to mp3 or ogg!
So they won me over....And for ONLY $1 I can get my fix NOW without hours spent trying to find a complete valid download and then the RIAA suing me. My time is worth something.
EXACTLY! Just because we do IT support (looks like I'll never leave support with the rest of IT going to India) does not mean we like to WASTE OUR LIFE playing with POORLY DESIGNED software like MICROSOFTS.
Linux has impressed me with its progress on the desktop in the last 2 years, but its a pain in the ass just like windows...In fact, I think its good enough now to replace windows if it gets more 3rd party support. But I do not want to read man pages or try to decipher preferences/options/metaphors/acronyms that even I have to sometimes work at understanding.
I STILL JUST WANT big PLAY/STOP/SKIP buttons on my keyboard!....Well, I now just use the iPod, but thats 30 cm away...
This is SO simple! It is unbelevable how simple questions get over complicated by people.
Why do we need an EXPENSIVE machine to do something SO SIMPLE!
Its not a matter of WHAT SOFTWARE, is a matter of using software at all!! Open software? are you stupid?!
Just because anything can be cheated given unlimited money/power/influence in a hypothetical world, does not make them all the SAME! One-Click Fraud is much easier than paying black people not to vote (see nixon.)
I can't believe there is a thread on this. big deal!
How many apps actually follow all the conventions of their environment?!
As far as UI, it depends on target. windows full-screen slant (which is ironic 4 "windows") is a good target for a dummy. (hence all those books...) My mother needs some sort of 1 app at a time mode. They target that well, and then lose her in everything else. For us decent users, it does not help if not hinder us to use a ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL UI. Which makes a good case for open window managers...
As Jobs once said about the computer illterate, "That problem will solve itself in time..."
And how could anyone expect APPLE to conform to a knock off GUI from MS?!
LOOSE INTEGRATION RULES! that is what scripts are for--tigher integration for more custom uses.
however, I think he is lying. he is not unaware of the stuff MS pulls; however, he does not have as much influence over things as people think. He can claim ignorance; which is a common defense these days.
but do you use that apple ][+ still? My keyboard controller was never a problem.
How about this?
-ImageWriter ][ STILL IN USE!! way back from my Apple ][GS! Still have ribbons for it! Must be around 1987 or there abouts. Those riboons can last me 6 years...print gets light, but works.
-Extended Apple ADB keyboard, still used on my G5 from the early 90s. (over 10 years old anyway)
The whole issue of Macs getting into the rest the market (which is mostly business--the consumer market is much smaller) is VERY RELIVANT TO ALL OF US!
All the problems the mac has with adoption are the same as that of LINUX, BSD, etc. Except Apple has got a porshe of a setup and the latter does not. If Apple can't get a foothold because of x,y, and z then neither can LINUX. Apple has some nice extras LINUX does not, but LINUX is free/cheap. Other than those differences the whole problem is one that BOTH must face in gaining acceptance.
We need market diversity to help drive the open standards and the need for IT to make it all interoperate. Think of your future!
I for one want to thank our new leaders for their attack on Microsoft.
Its their patent and they can push it so extreme that the laws are changed at the expense of Microsoft (nobody deserves it more) or they can just use their power for goodness and make an attempt (which might fail) to get the web moving forward AGAIN. If they fail, they can change their plans, they can change their mind.
If it were not for MS, we would be much more advanced than we are now on the web.
Do you really think MS will ever allow the web to progress into an open XML with advanced client side code that will render the OS and the most common software out of date?
Just think about the promise that was once within grasp...
The guys over there said they wanted the web market to progress once more out of MS control. Perhaps they are telling the truth?
Remember that guy who trademarked "Freedom of Expression(tm)" and then won? He did not want to win...but he did.
Change is needed, bad or good we cant progress without it.
1) they don't want #2 entered in for the oscars, but WB did. They are only entering #3.
2) givin the little descarte and that line of thought I know about; I'd say they are going to upset people or go over everyones' head like they did with #2.
3) Lets see how secret they will be with releases. Will they let countries preview and ban it like egypt did? If they have too many advance screenings, and send out those preview DVDS before the movie gets out.... but if they don't follow the typical pattern, something is afoot.
4) the consistant outcome will not be a popular one is what I've been told my my experts. I don't let them spoil the plot and tell me about it. (since they got the whole thing so well figured out for #2)
I can't help it: stupid, its deeper than that. They did not give their philosphy prof a spot in the movie for nothing. Go read the many papers out there by people IN the academic community---phil. profs have been using the movie to hook students.
In fact, if you have the right background, you can predict the whole plot. I know a physics prof who knows a lot of philosophy, and he had the entire plot of the 2nd movie figured out---and he still has not seen it yet! Its very consistant to a certain philosopher... I leave it to you to figure it out---but If you are smart you will enjoy the twists and turns and later on go back to figure out all those "holes" the ignorant see.
NO most of us rational people can not move on. That is EXACTLY the problem!
We can not move on to anything other than microsoft and that alone is a reason to fight against microsoft. If we ignore the problem, and still do well in this industry, we get taken out by M$, after of course they suck up a lot of our money in the process.
Personally, I don't care what is done, as long as we can have a free market once again. A "free" market can not exist if its unregulated or overregulated.
A PS teacher does not always refer to our system. In a pure democracy 51% CAN do that. Besides we don't have that anyway. Its representative.
on our system: pres, & senate would be the ez part for the 51%. Its that whole population vs location forethought that makes it difficult. Given enough time, those two could change the other branch. With the courts, breaking/bending the rules would be possible. (see 2000)
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I don't use special vouchers; just these little green paper things.
Problem with my system is the green paper things I give never get to my artists although that is my intent...
It was well founded. And it was NOT proven false.
As any GOOD movie does not spell everything out so someone with an 80 IQ can get it; which is refreshing, given that other movies talk down to the viewers.
They did NOT explain neo's rising to the NEXT level at the end of #2; which is what people WANTED, but did not get. Its not like they need to beat you over the head with another repeat with matrix level 2. Then people would complain that this movie was a rehash of #1...Can't please everyone...
It did not get proven wrong by any means. They did not prove anything. It was all open to questioning, which is at the heart of the WHOLE THING!
The strong base in existentialism of the movies should justify their plot and direction plenty.
I see a lot that goes unexplained, which means people will fill up gigs of space writing about it who would otherwise just be playing games, porn, or watching sports.
So I am pleased with movie #3.
Ah, but you gave her $5. Its HER choice as to what to do with it. It only illustrated why she was in that position.
Net result is you TRIED, she failed.
But you can not possibly know what or why people are in the position they are in. So, are you really being taken advantage of or is it more that she is abusing herself?
There is no answer to ever be found; which makes it a great cop-out.
So, "why do you keep going?"
-----
my best "answer", would be to provide the minimum 4 everyone. Where they go from there is up to them. Not everybody HAS a choice.
dependancy or not --dependancy is purely relative.
There is plenty of dependancy and other problems to keep people motivated in their endless pursuit for freedom from their own problems. (aka happyness)
even if a company got a monopoly from being popular or good, it is irrelivant. Once a company gets that powerful, the bloat and greed set in---because after all its run by humans.
Its no different that putting term limits on politians. Eventually things turn sour, and something needs to change.
term limits == monopoly breakup
Take apache, it breaks the pattern, because unlike the company or political rep, people can change it and fork off their own branches. That characteristic is unique to open source.
NICE JOB
proof that an undergrad can do better than a bunch of pros....or proof that they WANT mistakes so that those who know can cheat; and if they get found, they can play dumb.
Keep it up, you'll probably be sited as an example at some point that even a student can do better in a few weeks of time.
communist is as liberal as Nazi's are conservative.
If you supposedly looked it up then, didn't you notice that the render engine is a framework? Can't you just use their HTML & JavaScript framework and forget about the details?
With the webcore source, can't you figure out that method's syntax and still use it yourself? Just 1 method is all you found? sounds like they just missed something somewhere to me.
Duh, the best parts are closed because that is what makes it Apple. They need to stay in business you know--that darn capitialist thing...
More companies should open source the stuff that is not unique to them, like Apple is doing. They open a lot of stuff and you complain its not everything.
I have no problem with companies doing closed source on top of open source. It only makes things better, and them dependant on the open source--which at some point they need to contribute back to.
I'd like it if Apple realized ATSUI was no longer a big deal and open sourced that as well. Like they did with openplay. Perhaps they will.
DOES NOT MATTER EITHER WAY
Reguardless of motives, this is GOOD. If they win, MS loses, if they lose than IP laws get weaker. Either way MS loses $$$. After they win, they could hurt us, in which case, either laws change, or we become less dependant on browser plug-ins. If anything it makes the public more aware of the stupid lawyers running the country.
Its a WIN WIN sitution for us.
nope, you must not understand. You completely missed the point.
You quoted the line but you did not get it. I did not say what you infered.
Sure paper systems can be 'hacked' and have been. Big deal. Electronic systems can be hacked BETTER and HAVE BEEN. What is worse, we will never catch them, and have not even had officials recognize that there was cheating! At least with paper records, its possible to do something.
Electronic systems without a readable paper trail are litterally a million times worse! (They COST MORE too.)
Know what my state uses? paper & pencil. Its counted by machine, but it can be done by hand and the voter can see how they voted clearly.
Just think about it. SIMPLE IS BETTER. The more layers of abstraction from the actual vote data the more places things can be done. The more direct the better.
Canada does it better. Its all done by hand, and its so CLEAR that nobody can claim error. A single counter can't change the outcome, onless it gets close. Not to mention they can if they have to trace it back to the bad counter, the counter has no defense.
The answer:
Do what Canada does. Slow but cheap.
Perhaps add a randomly assigned second count. no 2% error, which is unacceptable.
I'd like to decrypt the files without recompression too, but WHY would I want to put in the time?
Simple, I can do anything I want with my 3 computers! The DRM is non-existant for me, so its simple not WORTH MY TIME TO HACK IT!
Just because I'd feel a little better, is not enough to invest the time to hack it. If I want to get it out at ANY TIME I can just use dozens of decode-encode methods to get it out.
The lack of motivation, and the abundance of easier alternatives with know percevable loss in quality means that hardly anyone will want to invest the time to hack it.
The worse the DRM, the more people are motivated to break it. This is the best DRM I've ever seen. I'm not even bothering 2 transcode to mp3 or ogg!
So they won me over....And for ONLY $1 I can get my fix NOW without hours spent trying to find a complete valid download and then the RIAA suing me. My time is worth something.
EXACTLY! Just because we do IT support (looks like I'll never leave support with the rest of IT going to India) does not mean we like to WASTE OUR LIFE playing with POORLY DESIGNED software like MICROSOFTS.
Linux has impressed me with its progress on the desktop in the last 2 years, but its a pain in the ass just like windows...In fact, I think its good enough now to replace windows if it gets more 3rd party support. But I do not want to read man pages or try to decipher preferences/options/metaphors/acronyms that even I have to sometimes work at understanding.
I STILL JUST WANT big PLAY/STOP/SKIP buttons on my keyboard!....Well, I now just use the iPod, but thats 30 cm away...
French proverb:
Common sense is not common.
This is SO simple! It is unbelevable how simple questions get over complicated by people.
Why do we need an EXPENSIVE machine to do something SO SIMPLE!
Its not a matter of WHAT SOFTWARE, is a matter of using software at all!! Open software? are you stupid?!
Just because anything can be cheated given unlimited money/power/influence in a hypothetical world, does not make them all the SAME!
One-Click Fraud is much easier than paying black people not to vote (see nixon.)
I can't believe there is a thread on this. big deal!
How many apps actually follow all the conventions of their environment?!
As far as UI, it depends on target. windows full-screen slant (which is ironic 4 "windows") is a good target for a dummy. (hence all those books...) My mother needs some sort of 1 app at a time mode. They target that well, and then lose her in everything else. For us decent users, it does not help if not hinder us to use a ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL UI.
Which makes a good case for open window managers...
As Jobs once said about the computer illterate, "That problem will solve itself in time..."
And how could anyone expect APPLE to conform to a knock off GUI from MS?!
EXACTLY!!
LOOSE INTEGRATION RULES! that is what scripts are for--tigher integration for more custom uses.
however, I think he is lying. he is not unaware of the stuff MS pulls; however, he does not have as much influence over things as people think. He can claim ignorance; which is a common defense these days.
History does not repeat but it does rhyme
-Mark Twain
but do you use that apple ][+ still? My keyboard controller was never a problem.
How about this?
-ImageWriter ][ STILL IN USE!! way back from my Apple ][GS! Still have ribbons for it! Must be around 1987 or there abouts. Those riboons can last me 6 years...print gets light, but works.
-Extended Apple ADB keyboard, still used on my G5 from the early 90s. (over 10 years old anyway)
The whole issue of Macs getting into the rest the market (which is mostly business--the consumer market is much smaller) is VERY RELIVANT TO ALL OF US!
All the problems the mac has with adoption are the same as that of LINUX, BSD, etc. Except Apple has got a porshe of a setup and the latter does not. If Apple can't get a foothold because of x,y, and z then neither can LINUX. Apple has some nice extras LINUX does not, but LINUX is free/cheap. Other than those differences the whole problem is one that BOTH must face in gaining acceptance.
We need market diversity to help drive the open standards and the need for IT to make it all interoperate. Think of your future!
Nobody deserves TYRANNY more than Microsoft!
life is unfair, microsoft knows that...
the laws will not get changed unless the stupid people realize they are bad.
I for one want to thank our new leaders for their attack on Microsoft.
Its their patent and they can push it so extreme that the laws are changed at the expense of Microsoft (nobody deserves it more) or they can just use their power for goodness and make an attempt (which might fail) to get the web moving forward AGAIN. If they fail, they can change their plans, they can change their mind.
If it were not for MS, we would be much more advanced than we are now on the web.
Do you really think MS will ever allow the web to progress into an open XML with advanced client side code that will render the OS and the most common software out of date?
Just think about the promise that was once within grasp...
The guys over there said they wanted the web market to progress once more out of MS control. Perhaps they are telling the truth?
Remember that guy who trademarked "Freedom of Expression(tm)" and then won? He did not want to win...but he did.
Change is needed, bad or good we cant progress without it.
1) they don't want #2 entered in for the oscars, but WB did. They are only entering #3.
2) givin the little descarte and that line of thought I know about; I'd say they are going to upset people or go over everyones' head like they did with #2.
3) Lets see how secret they will be with releases. Will they let countries preview and ban it like egypt did? If they have too many advance screenings, and send out those preview DVDS before the movie gets out.... but if they don't follow the typical pattern, something is afoot.
4) the consistant outcome will not be a popular one is what I've been told my my experts. I don't let them spoil the plot and tell me about it. (since they got the whole thing so well figured out for #2)
I can't help it:
stupid, its deeper than that. They did not give their philosphy prof a spot in the movie for nothing. Go read the many papers out there by people IN the academic community---phil. profs have been using the movie to hook students.
In fact, if you have the right background, you can predict the whole plot. I know a physics prof who knows a lot of philosophy, and he had the entire plot of the 2nd movie figured out---and he still has not seen it yet!
Its very consistant to a certain philosopher...
I leave it to you to figure it out---but If you are smart you will enjoy the twists and turns and later on go back to figure out all those "holes" the ignorant see.
Franklen was a nerd who learned the political/social side that many nerds disreguard.
NO most of us rational people can not move on. That is EXACTLY the problem!
We can not move on to anything other than microsoft and that alone is a reason to fight against microsoft. If we ignore the problem, and still do well in this industry, we get taken out by M$, after of course they suck up a lot of our money in the process.
Personally, I don't care what is done, as long as we can have a free market once again.
A "free" market can not exist if its unregulated or overregulated.
One group acts big to make up for lacking something....
One group does not put on the act.
Both are bet-wetters.
A PS teacher does not always refer to our system. In a pure democracy 51% CAN do that. Besides we don't have that anyway. Its representative.
on our system:
pres, & senate would be the ez part for the 51%. Its that whole population vs location forethought that makes it difficult. Given enough time, those two could change the other branch. With the courts, breaking/bending the rules would be possible. (see 2000)