being that they are using the term "rental" I would imagine that they would use a time-limited scheme rather than a playcount-limited scheme.
Existing DVD rentals are time limited, and that's what everyone is used to. Circuit City's playcount-limited DIVX scheme fell on it's face, so I can't imagine a completely electronic version would fare any better.
I enjoy the fact that OSX has Bourne-Again SHell (BASH) capabilities (correct me if I'm wrong) although I hate their pricing and closed machine mentality--though that may change with x86 architecture. If I want to slap another stick of RAM into my machine, I should be able to without being a licensed Apple technician.
Well that's news to me, as I have a G4 tower and a G4 PowerBook at home which I have upgraded the memory in, as well as a Mac Mini, a G5, and this MacBook Pro on my desk here at work that I have upgraded the memory in.
Guess I better go take the licensing exams before someone figures out that I've broken some kind of FUD.
There are other posts that have already talked about breeder reactors that will create fuel for fast-neutron reactors that can burn up Plutonium and Thorium.
Also, there is the CANDU design, which uses the incredibly plentiful U238, moderated by Deuterium. This design requires very little fuel processing (no enrichment), is regarded as weapon-proliferation-safe, and is a working design.
While you make a good point, it's worth mentioning that good ol' Steve hasn't been very good about maintaining the imagery of a proper CEO in recent years.
After all, I haven't heard of it being standard practice to turn office furniture into ballistic objects and scream out that you are going to "fucking bury" the CEOs of the competition...
All the things you mention above are true - they don't have anything to do with piracy (except that they will argue about the region coding bullshit)
No, they're pissed about the ability to disable the HDCP encoding of the upconverted output on this player.
HDCP is DRM, and disabling it does help with copyright violation.
(I have one of these players, and I recommend getting one specifically for the reason I did - disable the HDCP and have upconverted HD video over component outputs)
I would imagine the MPAA is pissed about the exact reason I bought it - the ability to enter a sequence on the remote control to disable the HDCP encoding of upconverted HD video, and allow the upconverted stream to play out the analog component video outputs.
HDCP is how they plan on preventing copying of high resolution digital video streams on HDMI - and this player has a software switch to just disable it.
I just wanted upconverted video without buying a $1200+ HDMI-switching receiver so I could have a home theater setup that my girlfriend can understand and use.
I did buy one of these about two months ago, and yes, you can turn off the HDCP. When you do, you also get the upconverted HD video output over component - the reason I bought the thing.
I really didn't want to drop $1000+ on a receiver that can switch HDMI when I have a perfectly adequate one that does component video.
A simple remote code, and I was in business. Now I just need to figure out how to kill the damn region coding, as I have a LEGALLY PURCHASED region 3 DVD that I can't watch legally due to the fucking DMCA.
I was a contractor there when they first started installing the turnstiles / proximity scanners. These, of course were installed at the larger campuses first, and then the satellite campuses.
But, to answer your question, I was at Aloha (AL4) before our lab moved to Cornell Oaks (CO1). Every once in a while I had the occasion to go over to Jones Farm (JF3) to work with the other NQL guys, but mostly we stayed to our own.
I was a contractor for Intel, and because of that, I had a "Green badge" where the people that had checks with Intel's address on it were "Blue-badge employees"
One of the differences that was clear on your first day, was that greenbadges had to swipe their badge every time they enter or exit the building. Bluebadges just showed it to the security guy from across the room and walked in or out.
We developed a saying: "Green badges always swipe when they are done"
There was a contractor once that used some of the 3M blue masking tape you find everywhere around Intel to turn his green stripe into a blue stripe, just to see if anyone noticed. It was two weeks later that a manager asked him "Hey - when did you get hired as a blue badge employee?"
She wasn't happy when he peeled the tape off.
Now I work at a company that has Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow badges for completely different purposes.
Red = access to secure areas such as "the vault" in the Jewelry division, the datacenter, wiring closets, etc. Blue = employee non-secure access Green = contractor Yellow = temporary
However, no one really even knows what the difference in the colors mean except the security clucks.
Not only would a built-in DVD player be a selling point, but a built-in DVD burner, and a FireWire connection to all those cable boxes the FCC mandates the cable companies need to make available upon customer request.
In fact, Apple has had a FireWire video stream recording app in their FireWire SDK for over a year now that you could run, and record HD signals straight away. Most HDTV sets have a DVI port on them (mine does, at least), so you've got your video interconnect ready to go as well. Put one and one together, and you've got one hell of a device.
I'd hope that they would have some form of converter cable to go to component video as well, just so I could use my receiver, but hay.
Yeah, I know... My USB Gene Sequencer just wasn't working right until I had all 4GB being addressed at home. Now I can make that five-assed monkey I've always wanted!
You know... every time I hear of someone talking about the hydrogen economy, I wonder where they are getting all this hydrogen from.
Is it coming from the hydrogen fairy?
No, it's coming from two sources:
Water, cracked using a whole lot of electricity, generated by burning dead dinosaurs.
Cracking hydrocarbons directly, which are by-and-large, dead dinosaurs.
Hydrogen is not a magic energy producer, but it's a battery. You spend energy to create the hydrogen, and then you retrieve the energy spent in a fuel cell, at less efficiency than the original energy transaction.
Well, that worthless tip doesn't help with the third mouse button, does it now?
If I tap out "Shave and a haircut" does it emulate a third button?
Oops, except "Open in new tab" is right there in the menu. You still don't know what you are talking about.
Tools seem inelegant to those who know not how to use them.
I'm not saying that the OS should be designed so you HAVE To use a command line, just give me the option. Do you have any idea how much easier it is to administer even a Windows server with Secure Shell instead of Terminal Services, VNC or PC Anywhere?
Yes, I do know, because I do it daily on the AIX, Mac OS X, and Linux servers that I administer at work... from my Mac, using SSH. Built in. Instead of third-party installed. Like Windows. You still don't know what you're talking about.
How about copying Tetrabytes of data from one server to another, which I have to do on a regular basis as part of my job? If you use a GUI, you have a lot of waiting around. The command line tools for moving data around are far more flexible. If I need to copy just the 900 GB that's been added since the last update, I can do that with a single command line in Windows or Linux. Until Mac was built on top of a decent operating system (BSD) and had a decent command line, the kind of data transfers I have to do would require hours of work by hand, third party applications or applescript.
I don't know what a "tetrabyte" is, but I'm really not interested in talking about the six-year-old Mac OS 9, which is what your entire experience seems to be predicated on. Go ahead and go back to Windows 98 and tell me how easy administration is, cause that's what you're doing here. This is a complete non-sequitur filibuster.
I'm sorry, but if you honestly think a command line is a bad idea, then you've already demonstrated that you don't do a lot of the things that require more advanced tools.
The dumbed down Apple interfaces are good enough for you. Glad to hear it. You shouldn't have to learn to program to use your computer. Apple makes a nice entry level computer, and it can do a lot of the things that most computer need.
But a Mac would be a pathetic joke for my line of work. It's less of a joke now that it's Unix based, but there's a lot of NeXt crap that needs to go before it's worth my time, and a lot of things that just can't be cone from a command line.
I do plenty on the command line, and I'm glad it's there. However, I'm also smart enough to realize there is value in having an OS that doesn't require it. This seems to be the point you are missing.
Yeah, I guess it would be a pathetic joke to have a system that talks to everything easily, without having to jerk around with it constantly. I sure have a hard time filling my day up without having to reinstall drivers, clean spyware, check for viruses, and pray that I won't have to reinstall Windows.
I work on windows, but I can work *with* my PowerBook.
Knowing how to do various things from the command line is a great benefit. Even when you have to use Terminal Services, it's generally a hell of a lot faster to log in, open a command prompt, and do what you need to do as opposed to opening a window, waiting 30 seconds, opening another window, waiting 30 seconds and so on for ten minutes just to get to an interface to check a setting.
Hmm, maybe this is why on Mac OS X you can type in ">console" at the login prompt, which drops you to a text console to do everything you're talking about? Oh, I guess you still don't know what you're talking about.
I'm sorry you're upset by my having seen your toy computer for what it is, but to tell the simple truth, it's clear you just don't have computing needs that are sufficiently advanced to encounter many of the brain dead ways in which Max is castrated. You're also so brain washed by the Mac marketing machine and the "cult of Mac" that you can't examine your OS objectively.
While you can call me all the names you want, it still doesn't change the fact that you are not playing with a full deck of cards. I say again, try to know something about a subject before talking about it.
BZZZT!! I'll take uninformed idiots for $200, Alex!
On a MAC laptop without an external mouse, I have to put the food down and hold down the Option key to do what evolved operating systems simply give you a button to do.
Or, you can click on the link, and hold it down for two seconds which will give you a contextual menu to do exactly everything you could do with a right click. Any more pearls of wisdom?
Don't give me that "Better UI design" crap. Scroll wheels and three mouse buttons are damn useful things, and anyone running around saying otherwise is just kidding themselves. It's the whole "I can't have it so I'll mock it," mentality.
Just because you use it doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to. I used to do phone support, and 75% of the WINDOWS users I got didn't know the difference between left click and right click; and these were people installing their own video cards.
Besides, anyone that actually used a Mac in the last SIX YEARS would know that they CAN have it if they feel it necessary. Mouse scrolling and multiple button support is built in if you need it. The new PowerBooks have the best scrolling of *any* notebook out there - you use two fingers on the trackpad instead of one. OMG HOW INCONVENIENT.
Hardly a sign of an advanced OS in my opinion, given how much faster and more elegant a command line can be.
Yet Microsoft has crippled their command line environment, and I'm afraid that Linux can hardly be referred to as "elegant" from an end-user perspective. Yes, it has some great stuff under the hood, but I'd rather not teach my mom how to recompile a kernel to get her new Electro-Widget 9000(TM) to work.
Please, try to know *anything* about a subject before sounding off like an expert. I know it's hard, but you could at least try.
Perhaps we are talking about hardware that ships with only one mouse button, apparently under the assumption that their developers are smart enough to create an intuitive UI that doesn't require two or three. However, if you feel inclined to use two or three, you still can - and the functionality is even there out of the box.
They seem to be doing a pretty good job of it, too. Unlike you.
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being that they are using the term "rental" I would imagine that they would use a time-limited scheme rather than a playcount-limited scheme.
Existing DVD rentals are time limited, and that's what everyone is used to. Circuit City's playcount-limited DIVX scheme fell on it's face, so I can't imagine a completely electronic version would fare any better.
You had me, and you lost me...
Apple's successes lean heavily on not straying too far from their core market competencies - useable devices that people want.
Gaming has *never* been one of Apple's core competencies, and Apple has a knack for changing things around when they buy something.
The only way that a merger with Nintendo would work, is if they leave Nintendo the hell alone - and that won't happen.
Yes, a product that sold by the hundreds of thousands. Probably the most popular device to add radon to drinking water: http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/quackcures/revi gat.htm
Good times.
... and Apple's high end workstation based on said chip could be called a "Quadra"
Oh wait...
I enjoy the fact that OSX has Bourne-Again SHell (BASH) capabilities (correct me if I'm wrong) although I hate their pricing and closed machine mentality--though that may change with x86 architecture. If I want to slap another stick of RAM into my machine, I should be able to without being a licensed Apple technician.
Well that's news to me, as I have a G4 tower and a G4 PowerBook at home which I have upgraded the memory in, as well as a Mac Mini, a G5, and this MacBook Pro on my desk here at work that I have upgraded the memory in.
Guess I better go take the licensing exams before someone figures out that I've broken some kind of FUD.
What you are asking for is available as the Software Update service on Mac OS X Server v10.4.
You can already do this.
/Library/Receipts and can copy them to other Macs.
In Software Update, under the "update" menu, select either "Download Only" or "Install and Keep Package"
You will then find the packages at
Cheers.
U235 is not the only nuclear fuel available.
There are other posts that have already talked about breeder reactors that will create fuel for fast-neutron reactors that can burn up Plutonium and Thorium.
Also, there is the CANDU design, which uses the incredibly plentiful U238, moderated by Deuterium. This design requires very little fuel processing (no enrichment), is regarded as weapon-proliferation-safe, and is a working design.
Google "candu" for more information.
While you make a good point, it's worth mentioning that good ol' Steve hasn't been very good about maintaining the imagery of a proper CEO in recent years.
After all, I haven't heard of it being standard practice to turn office furniture into ballistic objects and scream out that you are going to "fucking bury" the CEOs of the competition...
So who do you call when the thing breaks?
With Cisco, I call the rep, and they have a replacement device in our datacenter within the hour, and we load up the config and get it fixed.
Doubt you'll get that kind of service here, and that's what you pay for with Cisco.
I guess, if you would have turned off the anti-republican static for half a second, you would have realized that Senator Wyden is a Democrat.
Wait - did you just own yourself?
All the things you mention above are true - they don't have anything to do with piracy (except that they will argue about the region coding bullshit)
No, they're pissed about the ability to disable the HDCP encoding of the upconverted output on this player.
HDCP is DRM, and disabling it does help with copyright violation.
(I have one of these players, and I recommend getting one specifically for the reason I did - disable the HDCP and have upconverted HD video over component outputs)
I have a HD-841 player.
I would imagine the MPAA is pissed about the exact reason I bought it - the ability to enter a sequence on the remote control to disable the HDCP encoding of upconverted HD video, and allow the upconverted stream to play out the analog component video outputs.
HDCP is how they plan on preventing copying of high resolution digital video streams on HDMI - and this player has a software switch to just disable it.
I just wanted upconverted video without buying a $1200+ HDMI-switching receiver so I could have a home theater setup that my girlfriend can understand and use.
I did buy one of these about two months ago, and yes, you can turn off the HDCP. When you do, you also get the upconverted HD video output over component - the reason I bought the thing.
I really didn't want to drop $1000+ on a receiver that can switch HDMI when I have a perfectly adequate one that does component video.
A simple remote code, and I was in business. Now I just need to figure out how to kill the damn region coding, as I have a LEGALLY PURCHASED region 3 DVD that I can't watch legally due to the fucking DMCA.
I was a contractor there when they first started installing the turnstiles / proximity scanners. These, of course were installed at the larger campuses first, and then the satellite campuses.
But, to answer your question, I was at Aloha (AL4) before our lab moved to Cornell Oaks (CO1). Every once in a while I had the occasion to go over to Jones Farm (JF3) to work with the other NQL guys, but mostly we stayed to our own.
I was a contractor for Intel, and because of that, I had a "Green badge" where the people that had checks with Intel's address on it were "Blue-badge employees"
One of the differences that was clear on your first day, was that greenbadges had to swipe their badge every time they enter or exit the building. Bluebadges just showed it to the security guy from across the room and walked in or out.
We developed a saying: "Green badges always swipe when they are done"
There was a contractor once that used some of the 3M blue masking tape you find everywhere around Intel to turn his green stripe into a blue stripe, just to see if anyone noticed. It was two weeks later that a manager asked him "Hey - when did you get hired as a blue badge employee?"
She wasn't happy when he peeled the tape off.
Now I work at a company that has Red, Blue, Green, and Yellow badges for completely different purposes.
Red = access to secure areas such as "the vault" in the Jewelry division, the datacenter, wiring closets, etc.
Blue = employee non-secure access
Green = contractor
Yellow = temporary
However, no one really even knows what the difference in the colors mean except the security clucks.
Not only would a built-in DVD player be a selling point, but a built-in DVD burner, and a FireWire connection to all those cable boxes the FCC mandates the cable companies need to make available upon customer request.
In fact, Apple has had a FireWire video stream recording app in their FireWire SDK for over a year now that you could run, and record HD signals straight away. Most HDTV sets have a DVI port on them (mine does, at least), so you've got your video interconnect ready to go as well. Put one and one together, and you've got one hell of a device.
I'd hope that they would have some form of converter cable to go to component video as well, just so I could use my receiver, but hay.
Yeah, I know... My USB Gene Sequencer just wasn't working right until I had all 4GB being addressed at home. Now I can make that five-assed monkey I've always wanted!
You know... every time I hear of someone talking about the hydrogen economy, I wonder where they are getting all this hydrogen from.
Is it coming from the hydrogen fairy?
No, it's coming from two sources:
Water, cracked using a whole lot of electricity, generated by burning dead dinosaurs.
Cracking hydrocarbons directly, which are by-and-large, dead dinosaurs.
Hydrogen is not a magic energy producer, but it's a battery. You spend energy to create the hydrogen, and then you retrieve the energy spent in a fuel cell, at less efficiency than the original energy transaction.
Kind of predictable that some piece of trash would turn the suffering of thousands of people into a political jab.
Die in a fire.
At $200k it sold for 3x expectations, eh?
so they expected to get $66,666.66~ for it?
Well, that worthless tip doesn't help with the third mouse button, does it now?
If I tap out "Shave and a haircut" does it emulate a third button?
Oops, except "Open in new tab" is right there in the menu. You still don't know what you are talking about.
Tools seem inelegant to those who know not how to use them.
I'm not saying that the OS should be designed so you HAVE To use a command line, just give me the option. Do you have any idea how much easier it is to administer even a Windows server with Secure Shell instead of Terminal Services, VNC or PC Anywhere?
Yes, I do know, because I do it daily on the AIX, Mac OS X, and Linux servers that I administer at work... from my Mac, using SSH. Built in. Instead of third-party installed. Like Windows. You still don't know what you're talking about.
How about copying Tetrabytes of data from one server to another, which I have to do on a regular basis as part of my job? If you use a GUI, you have a lot of waiting around. The command line tools for moving data around are far more flexible. If I need to copy just the 900 GB that's been added since the last update, I can do that with a single command line in Windows or Linux. Until Mac was built on top of a decent operating system (BSD) and had a decent command line, the kind of data transfers I have to do would require hours of work by hand, third party applications or applescript.
I don't know what a "tetrabyte" is, but I'm really not interested in talking about the six-year-old Mac OS 9, which is what your entire experience seems to be predicated on. Go ahead and go back to Windows 98 and tell me how easy administration is, cause that's what you're doing here. This is a complete non-sequitur filibuster.
I'm sorry, but if you honestly think a command line is a bad idea, then you've already demonstrated that you don't do a lot of the things that require more advanced tools.
The dumbed down Apple interfaces are good enough for you. Glad to hear it. You shouldn't have to learn to program to use your computer. Apple makes a nice entry level computer, and it can do a lot of the things that most computer need.
But a Mac would be a pathetic joke for my line of work. It's less of a joke now that it's Unix based, but there's a lot of NeXt crap that needs to go before it's worth my time, and a lot of things that just can't be cone from a command line.
I do plenty on the command line, and I'm glad it's there. However, I'm also smart enough to realize there is value in having an OS that doesn't require it. This seems to be the point you are missing.
Yeah, I guess it would be a pathetic joke to have a system that talks to everything easily, without having to jerk around with it constantly. I sure have a hard time filling my day up without having to reinstall drivers, clean spyware, check for viruses, and pray that I won't have to reinstall Windows.
I work on windows, but I can work *with* my PowerBook.
Knowing how to do various things from the command line is a great benefit. Even when you have to use Terminal Services, it's generally a hell of a lot faster to log in, open a command prompt, and do what you need to do as opposed to opening a window, waiting 30 seconds, opening another window, waiting 30 seconds and so on for ten minutes just to get to an interface to check a setting.
Hmm, maybe this is why on Mac OS X you can type in ">console" at the login prompt, which drops you to a text console to do everything you're talking about? Oh, I guess you still don't know what you're talking about.
I'm sorry you're upset by my having seen your toy computer for what it is, but to tell the simple truth, it's clear you just don't have computing needs that are sufficiently advanced to encounter many of the brain dead ways in which Max is castrated. You're also so brain washed by the Mac marketing machine and the "cult of Mac" that you can't examine your OS objectively.
While you can call me all the names you want, it still doesn't change the fact that you are not playing with a full deck of cards. I say again, try to know something about a subject before talking about it.
Have a day.
BZZZT!! I'll take uninformed idiots for $200, Alex!
On a MAC laptop without an external mouse, I have to put the food down and hold down the Option key to do what evolved operating systems simply give you a button to do.
Or, you can click on the link, and hold it down for two seconds which will give you a contextual menu to do exactly everything you could do with a right click. Any more pearls of wisdom?
Don't give me that "Better UI design" crap. Scroll wheels and three mouse buttons are damn useful things, and anyone running around saying otherwise is just kidding themselves. It's the whole "I can't have it so I'll mock it," mentality.
Just because you use it doesn't mean everyone else should be forced to. I used to do phone support, and 75% of the WINDOWS users I got didn't know the difference between left click and right click; and these were people installing their own video cards.
Besides, anyone that actually used a Mac in the last SIX YEARS would know that they CAN have it if they feel it necessary. Mouse scrolling and multiple button support is built in if you need it. The new PowerBooks have the best scrolling of *any* notebook out there - you use two fingers on the trackpad instead of one. OMG HOW INCONVENIENT.
Hardly a sign of an advanced OS in my opinion, given how much faster and more elegant a command line can be.
Yet Microsoft has crippled their command line environment, and I'm afraid that Linux can hardly be referred to as "elegant" from an end-user perspective. Yes, it has some great stuff under the hood, but I'd rather not teach my mom how to recompile a kernel to get her new Electro-Widget 9000(TM) to work.
Please, try to know *anything* about a subject before sounding off like an expert. I know it's hard, but you could at least try.
Complete troll but I'll bite.
Perhaps we are talking about hardware that ships with only one mouse button, apparently under the assumption that their developers are smart enough to create an intuitive UI that doesn't require two or three. However, if you feel inclined to use two or three, you still can - and the functionality is even there out of the box.
They seem to be doing a pretty good job of it, too. Unlike you.