You can't. If a corporation has financial reason to do something, they will, period. No "morality" or "social conscience" or "concern for human freedom" will play into it.
Although it currently applies to several corporations, this is changing for the better. Both morality and social conscience is increasing within society and its' corporations. It might be a slow process but it's there, and it's steady.
Education has changed a lot of the past decade. It used to be about educating someone to think about the problem but now we teach them how to pass an exam.
You're too negative. Liberal Arts colleges are still teaching critical thinking. What you said is true for some technical courses sponsored by certain companies. Stuff like teaching Word, or Oracle database comes to mind.
How does questioning authority make one into a communist?
It doesn't. What you were doing was not questioning authority but stating that excessive wealth is a sign of corruption. And this I don't agree with. The reason I called you a commie was actually another of your posts in this thread where you linked to http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/IncPov01.html
I'd bet you don't even know what "communist" means
I grew up in a communist society, so I know what's behind the words. The ideas behind it are so naive, it's not even funny. And forget about implementation.
Thank you for the link (http://coolhaus.de/art-of-controversy/erist32.htm ), it's pretty interesting.
Try reading, it's very informative.
I do read. Quite a lot.
You came off as someone who's quite ignorant about the entire issue.
Well, maybe. And you came out as someone who's logical reasoning needs polishing/refreshing.
Furthermore, you should always troll anonymously.
Certainly. At least we agree on something.
So taking a company from two employees with their only product being a BASIC interpreter for a home-built computer (the Altair) to an industry dominating software company that provides software for 95% of all PCs in the world is "underperforming" by your standard?
You raise an interesting point. The average/.er here must understand that disliking business policies for a certain company is not the same as underperforming. From pure business standpoint Bill Gates has done well.
Just because you don't see the value of entertainment sports provide doesn't mean the rest of us should be punished by having less motivated less qualified athletes.
I agree with your post in general, it should be said however, that athletes should not be motivated by amount of money they can make. Same applies to wanna-be computer programmers. You should do it because you like it, you're good at it, and you're willing to spend the time necessary to stay good at it.
In a market system, by definition people are worth exactly what they are able to convince someone to pay them. Let me explain further...
True. But there's also another angle when looking at how much a certain position is worth. It's how much influence your ideas will have. A CEO can one day decide to start a new product line, or to modify an existing one. This one decision might have an impact on thousands of people, and millions of dollars in spending, and potential revenue. Compare that to a decision of a blue collar worker, of office clerk.
The powerful simply bent the rules so they gain more than their fair share at the expense of all of the rest of us. This cripples our economy as it's a clear disincentive to labor.
Ah, a disgruntled commie... Your kind still exist...
Excessive affluence is a sure sign of a corrupt society
No it's not. I give you a point that it can be a sign, but it doesn't have to be. F.ex. in many South American countries there are drug lords with excessive affluence. They exist because they can corrupt the system to allow them to exist. So in this case yes, you might say your point is valid. But there's also a 2nd venue which allow people to become rich, it's called free market. You have an idea, and you're smart enough, you can convert this idea into money generating business. In a truly free market environment this can happen in a legally and morally correct way. Some of our business leaders are corrupt, but it doesn't mean all are. You only hear about the bad ones in the media.
Now that I look what the article says about the author, "Howard Strauss is the manager of technology strategy", I'm thinking just what the heck is that kind of a job title? Is it a somewhat humorous AI experiment some Princeton students have submitted to Slashdot?
The admission department at Princeton decided they do need more applicants with strong interest in AI. Hacking the entry code is the initial exam. You're admitted!
I find the expression "get laid" very offensive, actually, since I believe that I should be screwing around with a girl unless I have a very strong emotional attraction to them and really enjoy just talking to them or looking in to their beautiful eyes and seeing them give me their special magical smile.
In the latest Iraq-war-hoopla both the US and France did massive amounts of spinning (WMDs, UN Resolutions etc.). The difference is that the US did it to instigate change for the better in the Arab world (which is tricky to achieve as everybody can acknowledge). France on the other hand did it for populistic (Chirac wants more say in world affairs) and self-enriching (France had not stopped having business dealings with Iraq as the US had) reasons.
That was one of the best summaries of these events that I've seen. Thank you.
Sep 3, 1939: France declares war to protect its ally
Please, that was the ONLY thing they did. Once Poland got invaded, France cried: "we declare war" in hopes that this would of some reason scare Germany. Then France did nothing. Absolutely nothing. No military operations on any kind. Germans quickly noticed how empty the French screaming was, and invaded them without much resistance.
So please, whatever your opinions are, don't give France credit for something they never did.
There are circumstances where a person might "need" to learn a large amount of information in a short amount of time.
I'm glad you said this. Actually having the ability to learn something faster might help to slow down if used properly. Let's say there is some amount of information that I need to acquire, either for my work or personal satisfaction, or whatever. If I can spend 2 hours instead of 6 absorbing it, I will have 4 hours spending on stuff I wouldn't normally have time to. Including doing the "slow" stuff.
I never liked the "machines are using humans as energy cells" aspect of the plot. There are far better sources of energy the machines could have used, such as nuclear, geothermal, etc.
Yes, but you see, then they would not need humans. That's an important part of the plot: they keep humans alive to get the required energy.
funny as it sounds, but a girl with video on her shirt, would actually expect people to stare at it. I mean it's kind of hard to watch the video herself, so obviously it's for other people. And most girls do realize guys are breast fixated, so...
No matter how big a moron you are, no matter if you leave your front door wide open, then thief who walks in and takes your stuff is still a thief, still guilty in the eyes of the law, and still deserves to be put away.
Absolutely. I don't think the parent poster was trying to blame the owner of the house in this case. Of course, it's still theft, and whoever enters the house without permission is a criminal.
The point here is: we don't encourage criminals. Quite the opposite, we raise barriers. If there is a thief going through a neighborhood, he will look for houses with the least security. A lot of thiefs steal because it's easy to find places with low security (open door in this example).
Though, as long as you stick to the more travelled areas, and get directions to businesses, MapQuest more or less comes through. It's just the rural and residential streets it sucks at...
I remember trying it a few years ago by specifying an exact address. What I found that in the cities, it was very accurate, but wrong in the suburbs. It showed the suburb OK, but the location star was usually about 1/2 an mile off.
When I try it now, it's usually dead on. I even tried it for rural areas, and it was always correct. So it got much better over the years. My guess is, they do cooperate with postal office, to get the exact addresses right.
Slashdot - if you're going to post links to economics related subjects, can you please make sure it is written by someone with a clue about economics?
I don't think he was trying to make an economic statement. I agree that he's probably confusing a few issues, but the good thing he's doing is: throwing (for discussion) various ideas which we (people in technology, developers) should think about when developing software.
but what is the optimal population (or carrying capacity) for the Earth?
I don't think that's a concern. In most developed countries the natural growth actually stops. The reason US population is growing is mostly due to immigration. The earth as a whole, will achieve a certain equilibrium, once the economy rises to a certain level globally. We're getting there.
I will merely point out that the dotcom bubble economy was created under a Democrat president and began declining in mid 2000 - there is nothing Bush or Greenspan could have done to prevent it bursting.
This is sooo well said. I'm tired of people saying: "see what Bush did, under Clinton I could make a fortune playing market, and now...". It's like one man could just break the whole US economy within 1 day.
Slashdot Mirror
That's no moon, it's a space station!
is that from a book or movie I missed?
You can't. If a corporation has financial reason to do something, they will, period. No "morality" or "social conscience" or "concern for human freedom" will play into it.
Although it currently applies to several corporations, this is changing for the better. Both morality and social conscience is increasing within society and its' corporations. It might be a slow process but it's there, and it's steady.
Education has changed a lot of the past decade. It used to be about educating someone to think about the problem but now we teach them how to pass an exam.
You're too negative. Liberal Arts colleges are still teaching critical thinking. What you said is true for some technical courses sponsored by certain companies. Stuff like teaching Word, or Oracle database comes to mind.
How does questioning authority make one into a communist?
m ), it's pretty interesting.
It doesn't. What you were doing was not questioning authority but stating that excessive wealth is a sign of corruption. And this I don't agree with. The reason I called you a commie was actually another of your posts in this thread where you linked to http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/IncPov01.html
I'd bet you don't even know what "communist" means
I grew up in a communist society, so I know what's behind the words. The ideas behind it are so naive, it's not even funny. And forget about implementation.
Thank you for the link (http://coolhaus.de/art-of-controversy/erist32.ht
Try reading, it's very informative.
I do read. Quite a lot.
You came off as someone who's quite ignorant about the entire issue.
Well, maybe. And you came out as someone who's logical reasoning needs polishing/refreshing.
Furthermore, you should always troll anonymously.
Certainly. At least we agree on something.
So taking a company from two employees with their only product being a BASIC interpreter for a home-built computer (the Altair) to an industry dominating software company that provides software for 95% of all PCs in the world is "underperforming" by your standard?
/.er here must understand that disliking business policies for a certain company is not the same as underperforming. From pure business standpoint Bill Gates has done well.
You raise an interesting point. The average
Nonono. The ground is.
Not to be picky, but it's the electro-magnetic forces between various ground particles that are the problem here.
Just because you don't see the value of entertainment sports provide doesn't mean the rest of us should be punished by having less motivated less qualified athletes.
I agree with your post in general, it should be said however, that athletes should not be motivated by amount of money they can make. Same applies to wanna-be computer programmers. You should do it because you like it, you're good at it, and you're willing to spend the time necessary to stay good at it.
In a market system, by definition people are worth exactly what they are able to convince someone to pay them. Let me explain further...
True. But there's also another angle when looking at how much a certain position is worth. It's how much influence your ideas will have. A CEO can one day decide to start a new product line, or to modify an existing one. This one decision might have an impact on thousands of people, and millions of dollars in spending, and potential revenue. Compare that to a decision of a blue collar worker, of office clerk.
The powerful simply bent the rules so they gain more than their fair share at the expense of all of the rest of us. This cripples our economy as it's a clear disincentive to labor.
Ah, a disgruntled commie... Your kind still exist...
Excessive affluence is a sure sign of a corrupt society
No it's not. I give you a point that it can be a sign, but it doesn't have to be. F.ex. in many South American countries there are drug lords with excessive affluence. They exist because they can corrupt the system to allow them to exist. So in this case yes, you might say your point is valid. But there's also a 2nd venue which allow people to become rich, it's called free market. You have an idea, and you're smart enough, you can convert this idea into money generating business. In a truly free market environment this can happen in a legally and morally correct way. Some of our business leaders are corrupt, but it doesn't mean all are. You only hear about the bad ones in the media.
Now that I look what the article says about the author, "Howard Strauss is the manager of technology strategy", I'm thinking just what the heck is that kind of a job title? Is it a somewhat humorous AI experiment some Princeton students have submitted to Slashdot?
The admission department at Princeton decided they do need more applicants with strong interest in AI. Hacking the entry code is the initial exam. You're admitted!
is that it is fairly short range, so when you identify the spammer you can go punch them.
Most likely this process will be automated, so you end up punching some metal box at the bus stop.
I find the expression "get laid" very offensive, actually, since I believe that I should be screwing around with a girl unless I have a very strong emotional attraction to them and really enjoy just talking to them or looking in to their beautiful eyes and seeing them give me their special magical smile.
You must be a female to word it like that...
In the latest Iraq-war-hoopla both the US and France did massive amounts of spinning (WMDs, UN Resolutions etc.). The difference is that the US did it to instigate change for the better in the Arab world (which is tricky to achieve as everybody can acknowledge). France on the other hand did it for populistic (Chirac wants more say in world affairs) and self-enriching (France had not stopped having business dealings with Iraq as the US had) reasons.
That was one of the best summaries of these events that I've seen. Thank you.
Sep 3, 1939: France declares war to protect its ally
Please, that was the ONLY thing they did. Once Poland got invaded, France cried: "we declare war" in hopes that this would of some reason scare Germany. Then France did nothing. Absolutely nothing. No military operations on any kind. Germans quickly noticed how empty the French screaming was, and invaded them without much resistance.
So please, whatever your opinions are, don't give France credit for something they never did.
There are circumstances where a person might "need" to learn a large amount of information in a short amount of time.
I'm glad you said this. Actually having the ability to learn something faster might help to slow down if used properly. Let's say there is some amount of information that I need to acquire, either for my work or personal satisfaction, or whatever. If I can spend 2 hours instead of 6 absorbing it, I will have 4 hours spending on stuff I wouldn't normally have time to. Including doing the "slow" stuff.
I never liked the "machines are using humans as energy cells" aspect of the plot. There are far better sources of energy the machines could have used, such as nuclear, geothermal, etc.
Yes, but you see, then they would not need humans. That's an important part of the plot: they keep humans alive to get the required energy.
I was staring at your *video*, honest.
funny as it sounds, but a girl with video on her shirt, would actually expect people to stare at it. I mean it's kind of hard to watch the video herself, so obviously it's for other people. And most girls do realize guys are breast fixated, so...
3. Get approached by a company willing to pay you
Actually, it's more insightful than funny. The only problem is HOW to make this happen - but the submitter already is at this point.
No matter how big a moron you are, no matter if you leave your front door wide open, then thief who walks in and takes your stuff is still a thief, still guilty in the eyes of the law, and still deserves to be put away.
Absolutely. I don't think the parent poster was trying to blame the owner of the house in this case. Of course, it's still theft, and whoever enters the house without permission is a criminal.
The point here is: we don't encourage criminals. Quite the opposite, we raise barriers. If there is a thief going through a neighborhood, he will look for houses with the least security. A lot of thiefs steal because it's easy to find places with low security (open door in this example).
The first response is usually "Slam the mailbox lid", which would certainly get the attention of the perpetrator in the real situation (ahem)
Well, possibly, but now you prevented delivery of you regular mail as well. Which is not a solution either.
Though, as long as you stick to the more travelled areas, and get directions to businesses, MapQuest more or less comes through. It's just the rural and residential streets it sucks at...
I remember trying it a few years ago by specifying an exact address. What I found that in the cities, it was very accurate, but wrong in the suburbs. It showed the suburb OK, but the location star was usually about 1/2 an mile off.
When I try it now, it's usually dead on. I even tried it for rural areas, and it was always correct. So it got much better over the years. My guess is, they do cooperate with postal office, to get the exact addresses right.
That was supposed to be funny not insigthful.
Slashdot - if you're going to post links to economics related subjects, can you please make sure it is written by someone with a clue about economics?
I don't think he was trying to make an economic statement. I agree that he's probably confusing a few issues, but the good thing he's doing is: throwing (for discussion) various ideas which we (people in technology, developers) should think about when developing software.
but what is the optimal population (or carrying capacity) for the Earth?
I don't think that's a concern. In most developed countries the natural growth actually stops. The reason US population is growing is mostly due to immigration. The earth as a whole, will achieve a certain equilibrium, once the economy rises to a certain level globally. We're getting there.
I will merely point out that the dotcom bubble economy was created under a Democrat president and began declining in mid 2000 - there is nothing Bush or Greenspan could have done to prevent it bursting.
This is sooo well said. I'm tired of people saying: "see what Bush did, under Clinton I could make a fortune playing market, and now...". It's like one man could just break the whole US economy within 1 day.