More like biologists that took a few too many liberal arts classes.
I don't know if it is the MSNBC write up or the "experiment" itself, but this has got to be the most vacuous thing I've ever read.
And you are who exactly? What papers have you published lately? Either put up or shut up. Really now, if you were a prominent expert in this field, WTF are you doing posting on slashdot? Get back to work.
HD-DVD is supported by MSFT. Is that supposed to be a bad thing for HD DVD? Blu-ray is supported by SONY (root kits, UMD, Memory Stick, ATRAC).
Like them or not, Microsoft (with their power) can have a large influence in HD DVD's favor. Other big backers of HD DVD include:
Intel
Toshiba
NEC
Big backers on Sony/Blu-ray's side include:
Dell
Apple
Panasonic
Every other significant company supports BOTH formats (for now) or are waiting for a winner. These include HP, Samsung, LG, Sanyo, Hitachi, et al. Yes, MSFT is a bad thing. They have been quite anti-consumer lately. There is no fair use support in Playsforsure DRM, MSFT implemented the protected media path which disables features on consumer's PC components. MSFT DRM is tied to WMP and windows. MSFT's CEO is a vocal supporter of DRM and has stated that he will only allow his children to listen to music DRM'ed as Playsforsure or Zune's marketplace DRM. MSFT's Vista operating system is one big rootkit/DRM which prevents you, the consumer, from using your own hardware to it's full potential. Cancel or Allow?
HD-DVD is supported by MSFT. HD-DVD initially was not going to support anything above 480p through component video which would have forced everyone with a non-HDMI HDTV to "upgrade" to a newer HDTV. They relented "after" Sony came out and said they would not enforce content protection for the first couple of years and allow 1080i through component.
There are numerous Blu-ray burners/drives for PCs and macs out right now. Where are the HD-DVD burners for macs? Where are the consumer level HD-DVD burners for PCs?
Would you care to explain again how HD-DVD is more accessible to the average consumer? I'm not into anime or that sick tentacle porn so I could care less about movies from other regions. DVD burners make DVD accessible as a "format" for consumers with video cameras and the emerging Blu-ray burners will make HD video from HD DV cameras accessible. How is HD-DVD accessible to anyone if you need pro equipment to author it?
I don't write articles based on concepts I'm not an expert in. What you seem to be missing here is that this article was written by a professional journalist. That journalist is obviously not going to be well versed in every field of study they might report on, however it is assumed that the scientists they interviewed do know what they are talking about.
You seemed to be implying that no scientists were interviewed for research into this article. It is not like the story is coming from a blog of a slashdot reader with no quotes but rather from a widely circulated newspaper.
If this was the case, wouldn't more free thinking going on in the giant cathedrals of the time? So you are saying that you are not a boring closed minded bigot parroting tired rhetoric?
I never got the gripe of you Anti-Apple whiners. Go, use Rio, or Zune, or whatever else is out there for playing MP3s and WMA (proprietary format) nobody is holding a gun to your head. Go, Use allofMP3 and any other source for Downloading Music.
It's like this; iTunes is a lock-in situation. You have to use iTunes to talk to the iPod (there are exceptions, but none of them are as good as the real thing at talking to the iPod) and load music into it. And the iPod only supports one type of DRM, which is supported by no other player.
How is it Apple's problem that tools written by third-parties are not as good? Is it not possible that the third-parties stopped putting so much effort into their solutions as iTunes started to improve and provide some of the features that they were offering?
You are free to use those other tools and use eMusic and other stores that sell MP3s legally. You are also free to rip your own CDs.
So tell me, what other DRM does the Zune support other than the Zune marketplace? What other DRM do Playsforsure devices support? Where are the third-party solutions that talk to MTP devices that do not leverage WMP dlls? What other devices support the Zune DRM? What non-licensed devices support the Playsforsure DRM?
From TFA:
At some point in your presentation billg will say "that's the dumbest fucking idea I've heard since I've been at Microsoft." He looks like he means it. However, since you knew he was going to say this, you can't really let it faze you. Moreover, you can't afford to look fazed; remember: he's a bully." That sounds a lot like Steve Jobs except for the closed eyes and rocking back and forth. Couldn't Bill Gates even come up with an original management style?
If as a geek (other than a medical doctor) that's the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear the word "mono", then you need to seek some counseling. If the first thing that comes mind for you when someone mentions "mono" is some obscure open source implementation of the.NET CLR, then you need to seek some counselling.
With the upcoming Cairo-based version of Gtk+, Gtk+ is turning into an excellent cross-platform toolkit.
I think it would do OpenOffice a world of good to adopt Gtk+ as the standard toolkit and gradually phase out its own internal toolkit. By sharing the cross-platform development with Gtk+, both OpenOffice and Gtk+ would benefit. No thank you. Gtk+ will not help make it more native on the mac. While gtk+ might look ok on linux or windows, it looks like crap on OS X.
It still pales in comparison to MS Office. You are right because MS Office for Mac has Office 2007 format compatibility... oh wait, that's Open Office and NeoOffice. Well the next version of MS Office for mac will have VBA support... oh wait, that's Open Office and Neo Office again as Office 2008 for Mac will drop VBA support.
Interestingly, Greenpeace has responded already, demanding more action, specifically, the products being green from the outset.
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/tastygreenapple This just shows that you should never try to appease or negotiate with terrorists. Yes folks, I am calling Greenpeace a terrorist organization. They have a similar modus operandi has your typical terrorist group like the IRA. As soon as you meet their demands, they make new ones.
Interestingly, Greenpeace has responded already, demanding more action, specifically, the products being green from the outset.
http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/news/tastygreenapple This just shows that you should never try to appease or negotiate with terrorists. Yes folks, I am calling Greenpeace a terrorist organization. They have a similar modus operandi has your typical terrorist group like the IRA. As soon as you meet their demands, they make new ones.
One problem we ran into was network printer drivers.
For network printing, Mac OS X uses CUPS[1]. And the printer drivers that you download from the manufacturers which are labeled "for Mac" are not CUPS drivers. They're local drivers only (ie. for printers physically connected to the computer with a USB cable). These local drivers can't be used for network printers. Look here, here or just f*cking google it yourself.
Share Printers
Macs and PCs can also share printers. Shared Windows printers automatically appear in the Mac OS X Printer Setup Utility so they can be added to the Macintosh as a local printer queue. You can create a queue for as many shared Windows (and Macintosh) printers as you like, and any application that can print on the Macintosh can print to the shared printer.
They meant "Microsoft" based versions of those tools, rather than those that work with all sorts of computers and systems.
Remote Desktop for Mac is based on VNC, not... RDP
OpenLDAP isn't AD
ssh? a commandline on a Mac??? Say it isn't so. Who the hell uses RDP these days? Ever heard of RAdmin? Larger companies are likely only to use RDP as a backup for administration of servers. Using Remote Desktop from Apple is what an IT department would use for administration of their mac workstations.
I get that feeling a lot. The game is fun for the first 20 then I'm left wondering "and now what?"
Fun for exactly 20 minutes then you find out thats it. No locked features, no extras, just more decoration.
I have a life and am busy too but I need a $40+ to entertain me for more then 20min. Somehow your statements seem to contradict each other. You say that you have a life are that you are busy but you are looking to be entertained for hours? When will you find the time to live that so-called life you claim to have if you are busy playing with your toys?
I also noticed that you are posting on./ and your user number is two hundred thousand lower than mine.
I would imagine a similar proportion of Wal-mart's customers own HDTVs to the rest of the population.
This is Wal-mart we are talking about here. Do you really think a significant percentage of the population has bought anything above an SD TV let alone a HDTV instead of an EDTV? Come on, let's be realistic here. The average electronics shopper at Wal-mart is hardly representative of the general population.
Hey dumbass, here's a conundrum for you: why the fuck would anybody else bother to create an independent implementation when the one the Xiph people made already exists, works perfectly well, and is free in both senses of the word? Maybe you're stupid enough to waste your time doing something like that, but the rest of the world isn't.
Having only one implementation doesn't make the thing "proprietary," except perhaps in your twisted little mind!
All works regardless of license are copyright of the original authors and no license can revoke/modify the rights of the original author. They can only grant rights to others. Without a complete specification, the BSD code will not help someone much if they need to implement the codec in silicon via an FPGA.
While this original authors of OGG may claim that they did not copy code, having a specification to implement a decoder using clean room techniques can help protect manufacturers from potential copyright infringement suits if it turns out that one of the programmers did copy someone's code "accidentally".
PS. Calling someone you don't know from Adam a "dumbass" makes you look pretty stupid asshole.
Show me an implementation of the format which is independent of the code they provide on the site. Show me a plugin from another entity other than the creators of the format. It may or may not be technically possible to re-impliment a codec based on their published documentation but until I see one, it will remain an open source but proprietary codec of that organization.
Yet, I do not see any other implementations of the format other than from that site. It is not an open standard until other groups/entities make use of it.
Those are registered standards. Yes, the encoders have licensing associated with them but they are managed by a licensing agency on behalf of the MP3 consortium. WMA is a proprietary format created and licensed out by MSFT.
How is it an open standard if it is not published to a standards organization? Do I have to included code from the originators of the project? Are there terms and conditions on use. What is your definition of an open "standard"?
From the Xiph page: Xiph QuickTime Components (XiphQT) is, in short, the solution for Mac and Windows users who want to use Xiph formats in any QuickTime-based application, e.g. playing Ogg Vorbis in iTunes or producing Ogg Theora with iMovie. It lets you do exactly what you want to do, play Ogg in iTunes. But I don't want to install another plug-in just to play a proprietary format like OGG. I would like to listen to it in a open standard format. Is OGG an officially published standard or do developers have to agree to a license and include source code from the project in their product in the form of a plug-in? If the latter, then that to me is the very definition of proprietary. It does not matter if the source is open if there is not an open standard to go along with it.
No it's not. Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited and business travel is restricted. Even then you must be approved by the State Dept. You'd be wise not to get your Passport stamped by Cuban customs. Quote from the US state Dept:
Tourist travel is not possible under U.S. law. Business-related travel is restricted to persons engaging in or arranging for permitted export sales, such as the sale of medicines or medical equipment, or for food or agricultural goods to non-governmental entities.
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I don't know if it is the MSNBC write up or the "experiment" itself, but this has got to be the most vacuous thing I've ever read.
And you are who exactly? What papers have you published lately? Either put up or shut up. Really now, if you were a prominent expert in this field, WTF are you doing posting on slashdot? Get back to work.
Like them or not, Microsoft (with their power) can have a large influence in HD DVD's favor. Other big backers of HD DVD include:
- Intel
- Toshiba
- NEC
Big backers on Sony/Blu-ray's side include:- Dell
- Apple
- Panasonic
Every other significant company supports BOTH formats (for now) or are waiting for a winner. These include HP, Samsung, LG, Sanyo, Hitachi, et al. Yes, MSFT is a bad thing. They have been quite anti-consumer lately. There is no fair use support in Playsforsure DRM, MSFT implemented the protected media path which disables features on consumer's PC components. MSFT DRM is tied to WMP and windows. MSFT's CEO is a vocal supporter of DRM and has stated that he will only allow his children to listen to music DRM'ed as Playsforsure or Zune's marketplace DRM. MSFT's Vista operating system is one big rootkit/DRM which prevents you, the consumer, from using your own hardware to it's full potential. Cancel or Allow?I think you forgot a few Blu-Ray supporters:c tion-14009/Index.html
http://www.blu-ray.com/players/
http://www.blu-ray.com/drives/
http://www.blu-raydisc.com/general_information/Se
There are numerous Blu-ray burners/drives for PCs and macs out right now. Where are the HD-DVD burners for macs? Where are the consumer level HD-DVD burners for PCs?
Would you care to explain again how HD-DVD is more accessible to the average consumer? I'm not into anime or that sick tentacle porn so I could care less about movies from other regions. DVD burners make DVD accessible as a "format" for consumers with video cameras and the emerging Blu-ray burners will make HD video from HD DV cameras accessible. How is HD-DVD accessible to anyone if you need pro equipment to author it?
Every PS3 is a blu-ray player out of the box.
You seemed to be implying that no scientists were interviewed for research into this article. It is not like the story is coming from a blog of a slashdot reader with no quotes but rather from a widely circulated newspaper.
If you wish laymen would STFU, why did you feel the need to post here then? Aren't you just as much of a laymen as the rest of us?
It's like this; iTunes is a lock-in situation. You have to use iTunes to talk to the iPod (there are exceptions, but none of them are as good as the real thing at talking to the iPod) and load music into it. And the iPod only supports one type of DRM, which is supported by no other player.
How is it Apple's problem that tools written by third-parties are not as good? Is it not possible that the third-parties stopped putting so much effort into their solutions as iTunes started to improve and provide some of the features that they were offering?You are free to use those other tools and use eMusic and other stores that sell MP3s legally. You are also free to rip your own CDs.
So tell me, what other DRM does the Zune support other than the Zune marketplace? What other DRM do Playsforsure devices support? Where are the third-party solutions that talk to MTP devices that do not leverage WMP dlls? What other devices support the Zune DRM? What non-licensed devices support the Playsforsure DRM?
I think it would do OpenOffice a world of good to adopt Gtk+ as the standard toolkit and gradually phase out its own internal toolkit. By sharing the cross-platform development with Gtk+, both OpenOffice and Gtk+ would benefit. No thank you. Gtk+ will not help make it more native on the mac. While gtk+ might look ok on linux or windows, it looks like crap on OS X.
You are right because MS Office for Mac has Office 2007 format compatibility... oh wait, that's Open Office and NeoOffice. Well the next version of MS Office for mac will have VBA support... oh wait, that's Open Office and Neo Office again as Office 2008 for Mac will drop VBA support.
How is MS Office for mac better again?
For network printing, Mac OS X uses CUPS[1]. And the printer drivers that you download from the manufacturers which are labeled "for Mac" are not CUPS drivers. They're local drivers only (ie. for printers physically connected to the computer with a USB cable). These local drivers can't be used for network printers.
Look here, here or just f*cking google it yourself.
From http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/windows/
Share Printers Macs and PCs can also share printers. Shared Windows printers automatically appear in the Mac OS X Printer Setup Utility so they can be added to the Macintosh as a local printer queue. You can create a queue for as many shared Windows (and Macintosh) printers as you like, and any application that can print on the Macintosh can print to the shared printer.Remote Desktop for Mac is based on VNC, not
OpenLDAP isn't AD
ssh? a commandline on a Mac??? Say it isn't so. Who the hell uses RDP these days? Ever heard of RAdmin? Larger companies are likely only to use RDP as a backup for administration of servers. Using Remote Desktop from Apple is what an IT department would use for administration of their mac workstations.
Yes, OS X has had a terminal.app since 10.0.
Fun for exactly 20 minutes then you find out thats it. No locked features, no extras, just more decoration.
I have a life and am busy too but I need a $40+ to entertain me for more then 20min. Somehow your statements seem to contradict each other. You say that you have a life are that you are busy but you are looking to be entertained for hours? When will you find the time to live that so-called life you claim to have if you are busy playing with your toys?
I also noticed that you are posting on ./ and your user number is two hundred thousand lower than mine.
Yes, Wal-mart sells HDTVs.
I would imagine a similar proportion of Wal-mart's customers own HDTVs to the rest of the population.
This is Wal-mart we are talking about here. Do you really think a significant percentage of the population has bought anything above an SD TV let alone a HDTV instead of an EDTV? Come on, let's be realistic here. The average electronics shopper at Wal-mart is hardly representative of the general population.Hey dumbass, here's a conundrum for you: why the fuck would anybody else bother to create an independent implementation when the one the Xiph people made already exists, works perfectly well, and is free in both senses of the word? Maybe you're stupid enough to waste your time doing something like that, but the rest of the world isn't.
Having only one implementation doesn't make the thing "proprietary," except perhaps in your twisted little mind!
http://www.webster.com/dictionary/proprietaryAll works regardless of license are copyright of the original authors and no license can revoke/modify the rights of the original author. They can only grant rights to others. Without a complete specification, the BSD code will not help someone much if they need to implement the codec in silicon via an FPGA.
While this original authors of OGG may claim that they did not copy code, having a specification to implement a decoder using clean room techniques can help protect manufacturers from potential copyright infringement suits if it turns out that one of the programmers did copy someone's code "accidentally".
PS. Calling someone you don't know from Adam a "dumbass" makes you look pretty stupid asshole.
What are they going to view those HD-DVDs on? Does Wal-mart sell HDTVs? Do most of their customers own an HDTV?
Show me an implementation of the format which is independent of the code they provide on the site. Show me a plugin from another entity other than the creators of the format. It may or may not be technically possible to re-impliment a codec based on their published documentation but until I see one, it will remain an open source but proprietary codec of that organization.
Yet, I do not see any other implementations of the format other than from that site. It is not an open standard until other groups/entities make use of it.
How is it an open standard if it is not published to a standards organization? Do I have to included code from the originators of the project? Are there terms and conditions on use. What is your definition of an open "standard"?
Xiph QuickTime Components (XiphQT) is, in short, the solution for Mac and Windows users who want to use Xiph formats in any QuickTime-based application, e.g. playing Ogg Vorbis in iTunes or producing Ogg Theora with iMovie. It lets you do exactly what you want to do, play Ogg in iTunes. But I don't want to install another plug-in just to play a proprietary format like OGG. I would like to listen to it in a open standard format. Is OGG an officially published standard or do developers have to agree to a license and include source code from the project in their product in the form of a plug-in? If the latter, then that to me is the very definition of proprietary. It does not matter if the source is open if there is not an open standard to go along with it.
Tourist travel is not possible under U.S. law. Business-related travel is restricted to persons engaging in or arranging for permitted export sales, such as the sale of medicines or medical equipment, or for food or agricultural goods to non-governmental entities.
http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rls/fs/2001/fsjulydec/
There are no prohibitions for travel from Canada to Cuba. Canadian citizens are free to travel to Cuba on vacation.
I'm talking about applications that make use of linux specific APIs and kernel calls. Stop being a smart ass.