Why does everyone forget the Stanford Research Institute? They were exploring GUIs in the late 60s. The have the *patent* on the first mouse. I even think they explored the concept of a suite of office applications.
And other researchers at other universities disagree with your researchers. Universities have become quite the bullshit factories these days.
And you completely missed the point of my response to the original post, as did most of those who replied to me, which is a pretty common thing around here, sadly.
It's long been know that genius is "in bed" with madness.
No, it has NOT "long been known" that genius is in bed with madness. IQ has never significantly correleated with any mental disorders.
However, mental illness DOES correleate well with poverty.
And any correleation between mental illness and creativity is clearly and demostratably false. These illnesses are most often a serious disability to people with otherwise normal intelligence and creativity. To suggest to these people that it's some sort of boon would be cruel.
Some of these "mad" people probably aren't mad at all.. they're just rather odd but that oddity gives can give them brilliant insight!
No rational person would ever suggest that mere eccentricity is a mental illness.
Unfortunately, it cannot be viewed as a cost. It's $11.7 billion in more sales, and those sales employed people. The money didn't just evaporate, it changed hands, and that's good for an economy.
I know. It was a joke. Not a very good one, but I though 95 would be obvious.
But if we are going to send a senior citizen to mars, lets send Bush, it was his idea, please let's send him.
Whatever. Doesn't the ideology ever tire you out? I've absolutely no use for any member of the Bush clan, but I could, without much effort, compile a list of a hundred people more deserving of hate and bile in this world.
The mainstream news media has been reduced to parroting press releases from any group whatsoever and calling it "reporting" for years now.
Just yesterday I heard a radio news story about how thousands of people are dying from something or other every year. When I looked into the data deeper, it was an estimate (read: ideologically motivated wild ass guess) by some political group, and had no actual science behind it whatsoever. But it was still just reported without any thought because the group issued a press release.
Glen should know better. That last trip into space at age 95 must have loosened some neurons.
We have the perfect example of what happens when you do big, decade long PR maneuvers in space: Apollo.
Yeah, we got to the Moon (and people who believe it was a hoax can all go hop on a +6 lance), but that was followed by a complete blowout and no followup.
Steady, logical, incremental steps are what we need. Well designed, expandable, modular orbital stations. Get some industry going. Solar panel farms. Zero gee manufacturing. Tourism. Establish something at L4/L5- maybe various manned observatories. Really look into the space elevator concept. Lunar bases (another good location for observatories- easier to work on). THEN we can go to Mars.
If we had started that back in the 1950's like some advocated back then, we'd already *have* lunar bases and probably a Mars mission underway right now. Martin Landau might have really been able to be on the Moon in 1999.
It's the unfortunate phenomena of the joke event horizon. Individually, the jokes are amusing. Collectively, they make you want to fly a plane into a building somewhere. Don't worry. String theory shall save us all.
That and the fact that they use vocoders to compress the signal. They are optimized to transmit VOICES (hence the name). Anything else gets chopped up as the codec desperately tries to reproduce it.
Now today's vocoders are a lot better than they used to be, but I have a friend who calls from his car a lot with music on the radio. The music gets completely destroyed by the codec.
Ever heard a cell phone call with real background noise? It does not survive the vocoding process well, and if it's loud enough it will hash up the encoding of the caller's voice to the point of being unintelligible.
"Misery, depression, elation all mine. Refine confinement all my design." said Henry Rollins to puzzled reporters at a press conference. "I reach deep inside myself. I rip out a handful of bleeding crackling wires. I squeeze the juice out. I burn them out. I want to see where the truth lies."
Rollins then proceeded to scream primally and body slam the dainty woman from CNN. DELL stock actually managed to reach negative numbers in early trading but closed out at a price of 2.3x10^-30 per share.
"Honestly, the only time I open the bonnet on my car is when I want to fill up washer fluid," said Tatiana Butovitsch Temm. Do we need to have a one metre square hatch for that or could we do it in another way? So we shifted the filling station for washer fluid to the side of the car, next to where you fill up fuel, and we closed the bonnet for good."
Until you have to break out the cutting torch and cut a hole in the bonnet when you need to CHANGE THE OIL or REPLACE A SPARK PLUG or any other sort of regular maintenance a complex, mechanical system requires.
Anyone else think of the episode where Homer Simpson is allowed to design a car?
Despite being spectacularly good at it and well paid by an employer who worships the ground upon which I walk, I hate my life, my skin is an unhealthy shade of neutral (fluorescent lights, don't ya know), I get depressed all the time and my brain shuts down when I get home, so my time away from work is just a hazy blankness full of desperation and shame.
It's too late for me, but you young 'uns can learn from the horror of mine existence.
RUN! Run from the tech industry before it's too late! Escape! Run! It's "managed" by evil people in ugly ties and gestapo-like haircuts! No matter how much you succeed, they will nitpick and criticize! Nothing is ever good enough! Run! And do not look back lest ye turn into a pillar of silica gel!
Huh. I was expecting a photo of Kant, Descartes and Hobbes arguing on the Moon or something.
No.
Simple enough for you?
Why does everyone forget the Stanford Research Institute? They were exploring GUIs in the late 60s. The have the *patent* on the first mouse. I even think they explored the concept of a suite of office applications.
And you completely missed the point of my response to the original post, as did most of those who replied to me, which is a pretty common thing around here, sadly.
It appears I trod on some mentally ill toes in this thread.
Actually, used carefully, a hammer could possibly set off a nuclear weapon. :-)
I don't think it's out of line to point out the potential for abuse.
Eh... it just seems so -5 Redundant right off the bat unless the person goes on to suggest a particular type of abuse.
Now if someone wants to suggest a particular and likely abuse for discussion, fine.
No, it has NOT "long been known" that genius is in bed with madness. IQ has never significantly correleated with any mental disorders.
However, mental illness DOES correleate well with poverty.
And any correleation between mental illness and creativity is clearly and demostratably false. These illnesses are most often a serious disability to people with otherwise normal intelligence and creativity. To suggest to these people that it's some sort of boon would be cruel.
Some of these "mad" people probably aren't mad at all.. they're just rather odd but that oddity gives can give them brilliant insight!
No rational person would ever suggest that mere eccentricity is a mental illness.
Gee. Ya think?
Can we once and for all just declare that ANYTHING can be misued and be done with it? It's not exactly secret Jedi lore.
Yeah, it isn't like it falls out of the sky or anything. ;-)
Yes, I'm teasing. I've always wondered why the rainiest areas of the country were not covered with reservoirs and catch basins.
2. Launch volley of Hellfire missiles at convention.
3. And everyone lived happily ever after.
All I said was that it wasn't a cost. Anything else is speculation.
From spam to organized crime. Way to go, genius.
All I said was that the price paid for the products as not a *cost* to the economy.
Sheesh...
Unfortunately, it cannot be viewed as a cost. It's $11.7 billion in more sales, and those sales employed people. The money didn't just evaporate, it changed hands, and that's good for an economy.
I know. It was a joke. Not a very good one, but I though 95 would be obvious.
But if we are going to send a senior citizen to mars, lets send Bush, it was his idea, please let's send him.
Whatever. Doesn't the ideology ever tire you out? I've absolutely no use for any member of the Bush clan, but I could, without much effort, compile a list of a hundred people more deserving of hate and bile in this world.
Just yesterday I heard a radio news story about how thousands of people are dying from something or other every year. When I looked into the data deeper, it was an estimate (read: ideologically motivated wild ass guess) by some political group, and had no actual science behind it whatsoever. But it was still just reported without any thought because the group issued a press release.
We have the perfect example of what happens when you do big, decade long PR maneuvers in space: Apollo.
Yeah, we got to the Moon (and people who believe it was a hoax can all go hop on a +6 lance), but that was followed by a complete blowout and no followup.
Steady, logical, incremental steps are what we need. Well designed, expandable, modular orbital stations. Get some industry going. Solar panel farms. Zero gee manufacturing. Tourism. Establish something at L4/L5- maybe various manned observatories. Really look into the space elevator concept. Lunar bases (another good location for observatories- easier to work on). THEN we can go to Mars.
If we had started that back in the 1950's like some advocated back then, we'd already *have* lunar bases and probably a Mars mission underway right now. Martin Landau might have really been able to be on the Moon in 1999.
It's the unfortunate phenomena of the joke event horizon. Individually, the jokes are amusing. Collectively, they make you want to fly a plane into a building somewhere. Don't worry. String theory shall save us all.
Now today's vocoders are a lot better than they used to be, but I have a friend who calls from his car a lot with music on the radio. The music gets completely destroyed by the codec.
Ever heard a cell phone call with real background noise? It does not survive the vocoding process well, and if it's loud enough it will hash up the encoding of the caller's voice to the point of being unintelligible.
Rollins then proceeded to scream primally and body slam the dainty woman from CNN. DELL stock actually managed to reach negative numbers in early trading but closed out at a price of 2.3x10^-30 per share.
Until you have to break out the cutting torch and cut a hole in the bonnet when you need to CHANGE THE OIL or REPLACE A SPARK PLUG or any other sort of regular maintenance a complex, mechanical system requires.
Anyone else think of the episode where Homer Simpson is allowed to design a car?
I grew up with electronics as a hobby.
I turned it into a career.
Despite being spectacularly good at it and well paid by an employer who worships the ground upon which I walk, I hate my life, my skin is an unhealthy shade of neutral (fluorescent lights, don't ya know), I get depressed all the time and my brain shuts down when I get home, so my time away from work is just a hazy blankness full of desperation and shame.
It's too late for me, but you young 'uns can learn from the horror of mine existence.
RUN! Run from the tech industry before it's too late! Escape! Run! It's "managed" by evil people in ugly ties and gestapo-like haircuts! No matter how much you succeed, they will nitpick and criticize! Nothing is ever good enough! Run! And do not look back lest ye turn into a pillar of silica gel!
Sorry, but unless they have their own marketing data to back this up, it's just the opinion of someone who wanted a Sam and Max game.
You realize how little I care about some AC's opinion of a silly joke post, right?