Now people keep bringing up sex in this thread. You all have dirty, dirty minds. Now, I'd like to think of this as a prison in a more sociable environment. But, what happens after 30 or 40 days if its a man only crew and there are some showers in the facility... starting to this this would be more like prison than "space" exploration..... wait a minute!
I was quite happy with my iMac G5. When the Intel switch happened I thought of buying a new one. When the word of the Hackintosh came out, I was more tempted to wait out and build my own. Now its nice that the iMacs seem to have IPS panels (which you'll have to pay a pretty penny for now unless you luck in with Dell). I could get a really nice i5 or i7 system with a considerably better video card, RAM and hard drive and the 12% sales tax where I live for the base price of the iMac w/o tax. And I'll have an expandable system.
And I can avoid paying for 3 yr Apple care - since if my motherboard breaks down after anytime after Applecare, I'll probably owe $500 to have it replaced at. PC? I can get a new one for $100 (or less).
If I weren't an enthusiast computer user, I'd pay the premium for the iMac. As it is, I don't want to.
If this project works like any other defense contract, the goal is always to bid low and sell high and always ask for more money for "research".
They have 6 well-fed pigs at the trough (LHM, Microsoft and co.) . They have $31 million to spend. There's going to be a slew of engineers and managers from each company working on the project. Each company will believe their solution is better which will require more money to research. They get more money but can't settle on differences, more money to settle on that. I'll stop. I don't want to feed them more ideas. You can hire me though. I've no idea what I'm doing, so I'll do a great job of increasing your budgets.
And when its all settled and settled:) I reckon the final tally will be many times the $31 mil.
Ditto. P4 3.0 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 9650 AGP ATI card. Aero works fantastic. And I'd say, Win2k3 was always faster than XP and Win 7 has seen some improvements on my system. Vista wouldn't even run on this sytem.
Too many options. For efficiency, one of two possible options should be available. And you should only need to press the "Enter" key.
So I would like to ask you, should the default answer to "Kill Patient?" be 'NO' or 'YES' ?
Your options 2,3 and 4 show that you might be willing to kill the patient. So, I think the options should be, 'NO', 'YES' and 'MAYBE' where YES (does not work) and MAYBE = YES. Plausible deniability?
My father told me that as a graduating high-school student (Canadian) back in the 50's, a voluntary test was provided to all students to test your science and mathematics prowess. The intention was to draw attention to your knowledge in order to get a scholarship or admittance into a Canadian or US ivy-league school.
Questions on the test included "How would you land on Earth's Moon?" The answer they were looking for was totally open since it was intended to test your real knowledge of math and science.
One could probably just answer.... build a rocket, once it leaves Earth, position it to fly to the moon and wait a few days for it to get there. But, you won't attract much attention.
My dad recalled that one year - and he knew the student quite well - had probably gone as far as to detail the amount of fuel (and type of) to be used, some basic designs of the shuttle, accounting for the Van Allen Radiation belts, etc etc - all with the calculus equations/work to go with. I believe the kids' dad was an engineer but it went above and beyond what other HS students would know and showed the depths of his knowledge + his grades.
This was without calculators. And without computers/Internet back then, he would probably have spent some serious time reading books on the side - in the sciences/math naturally, to have explained his answers in as much detail.
I don't know all the details but he apparently had one of the best scores on the tests and had been accepted at Harvard or MIT.
At the least, it beats explaining how a 477 word essay in part discussing your eye color, provided enough information about your academic abilities to be admitted to an engineering program at MIT.
I don't know how "reliable" it was well before hand either. I've been reading Jeffrey Ricehlson "Spying on the Bomb". In it he describes (through results of Senate Committee Hearings, declassified intelligence reports, etc) that US Intelligence was totally caught off-guard on either the existence of a program, a lack of critical information about the programs (like, did they have a bomb?). The countries included were Russia, China, Pakistan, India, and Israel.
Perhaps, if true, it points to an over-reliance on satellite and aerial photography, and SIGINT. Or a choice in priorities. Maybe they have enough agents on the ground but they've chosen to use them for other purposes.
There's only so much the UN can do. I would hope the Europeans and Americans are sharing some information on their knowledge of other countries trying to join the nuclear club.
Passing the border using other methods to get into the US from Canada is more difficult now. AFAIK from media articles, the Great Lakes are now patrolled by US Coast Guards with.50 cal guns on board. And if you choose to walk across the boarder, there are apparently drone planes monitoring the border. I don't think these are equipped with Hellfire missiles (yet?) as their cousins in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I'd just like to see some resemblance of security on buses and trains. Buses certainly never check for guns or sharp pointy things. Some nutjob a few years back decapitated - yes cut the head off of the passenger sitting next to him. Why? We don't know except he's a nutjob. He's in a nuthouse now. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html
Well, I can think of a few reasons (and I recognize the Holocaust):
1) In their regime, and in the middle east in general, denying the Holocaust can have great economic benefits, wins political favors (diplomacy) and certainly can keep them in friendly relations with Egypt, and maybe being on the more extreme side can also negotiate deals with North Korea among others
2) If they acknowledge the Holocaust, they'll have a mass of angry citizens probably out to mob the leaders of the regime
The main problem, IMO is even if they are unreasonable and don't plan to use the nuke, are we to be reassured that there are tamper-proof protection, safeguarding, and authentication systems to control the weapons? And if they use missiles as a launching veichle, are their systems accurate? If they target Sudan, are they going to hit Saudi Arabia by mistake? Oops!!???
I was thinking about that the other day. It seems odd that there is hardly anything about any South American countries having nuclear weapons ambitions.
I think it also makes dealing with nuclear 'states' more dangerous and difficult when there are more hands to deal with. I think its safe to say the first 3 countries to have nukes (US, Russia, China) have all probably realized the true burden of responsibility that comes with these weapons.
The countries that are new to the "club" all feel they have a nice new toy. Its more concerning when they don't care about showing it off.
The Earth is already polluted enough dammit. Last thing we need is 1,000s of years of radiation of our land, water and air from this crap.
IMO, there's no point in having these weapons since its most likely no one is ever going to use them. Maybe hitting some asteroids in space to save earth from near destruction is our only use (hmmm... didn't I see that in a movie?).
That's not your problem. It is your bank. I've chosen one that makes all transactions and statements in scientific notation (positive integers only). I should add that you need at least 1.00 x 10 ^ 7 dollars (US) to open the account.
I think this will be a great opportunity to recycle a lot of plastic that has ended up in landfills and (I would hope) plastic bags since they are all over the bloody place and a lot of aquatic life die from swallowing plastic bags.
My only concern is, since there's already so much stuff in landfills, is there any energy efficient to reduce the size of the landfill and get precious resources back - metals, plastic, oil, rubber, etc back?
Have each student create their "own TV station" as part of their degree requirement - no matter the area of study. Similar to research essays, you'll get the following results: 1) students who completed the assignment with no outside assistance 2) students that copied certain small portions of the data you are backing up and presenting it as their own 3) students that plagiarize everything - yes some students will debate that the same content the TV station has accumulated over the years - all 12 TB - is actually their original work.
As this data appears on the University network, the entire TV station will be backed-up in a local "Cloud". And if these types of assignment become popular at other universities, you can expect to find redundant off-site backups. By this point, the 12 TB will appear on BitTorrent (and probably on Newsgroups and IRC for the dedicated plagiarists). A full restore will only take a few days - as long as the full 12 TB is seeded.
I did a lot of competitive cycling. I can attest - a heart rate monitor does wonders. This despite the fact that I have a degree in kinesiology. HRMs are a godsend.
The coolest thing I've seen are some bike and rowing trainers - hookup your bike (indoors naturally) or rowing machine to some special equipment, connect to the internet and..... you can race against anyone else connected with this on the Net (there are some pros using this stuff too). The costs are quite high, but I'd like to try it out myself - I'm still pretty serious athlete.
I found out about Skies of Arcadia because it had such a following on DC. I saw some screen caps and read about how others were raving about the game. So, I found it ported on the PS2. I'm not a huge RPG fan since it takes too long to play most games. But Skies is a memorable experience and I had much more fun playing it than FF7 - I found the story, characters and writing much better/more fun too.
While the officers get tased as part of their training is a start, the officers can't account for everyone else. New recruits *tend* to be predominately males in very good physical condition, under the age of 30 and have probably played some contact sports. They know what its like to get hit, how to "take it" and their bodies are able to keep up.
There's lots of people in the general population that have medical conditions. There's lots of older men with heart conditions, people with seizure disorders, etc etc. This is the population the officers have to deal with. But since, they likely don't have these conditions, its unlikely they'll understand or think of the consequences. There's been a lot more deaths in the population from taser use, and I'm willing to bet, 0 taser deaths of officers during their training.
I agree with you. Your point isn't cynicism in the least. The point of this travel is getting someone to survive on the planet long enough for a human to collect valuable scientific information for future trips. I'd gather with what we currently know about space and what we learned from Moon landing and Mars probes, that we at least know enough that we can probably get a human to touch foot on Mars and survive the landing - on the first try is not guaranteed though.
I'd admit it would be a fascinating experience.
But when I look at Wikipeida (I'm not familiar with astronomy in the least), the Apollo 11 mission took a few days to fly to the moon and land. Assuming the same type of craft is used for the Mars rover missions, it took about 6 months to land a rover on Mars. I'm hoping this makes sense. This basically means that you have a person sitting in a dark space capsule with relatively no sense of time, no one to interact with for months on end - on a mission that they know they will make it back from.
I know some pretty dedicated people. But I can't think of anyone in a right frame of mind that would actually welcome the experience after a week. Its going to be really tough to find someone willing to do this.
And yes, the survival point is most important. I'm not sure what landing a person on the ground for a few days is going to tell us that a rover can't. Unless you ask the guy to rip his helmet or protective suit off. Seriously.
Some of the scientists involved in the Biodome thought they had the self-sustaining environment thing figured out to the T. That didn't work so well. I'm not knocking them down, but if we really want something of value, we should figure some of this independent survival in space stuff more. We're sending someone to their death. If you want to motivate them, you should at least help them find comfort in that they're being taken care of.
And what if the NBC chime (or very similar) also makes a good duck call?
Can one (other than NBC) trademark the sound in the context of a duck call? Or since NBC hasn't trademarked it in that context, can they own the rights to it? Do you have to license the sound for this purpose?
Ummmm...... no.In Slashdot traditional methodology, here's what is going to happen.
1. Hulk smash Eisner. Hulk smash Robert Eiger (current President). Hulk smash Mickey. Hulk smash Disney DVDs. Hulk smash Disney Theme Parks. 2. ?????? 3. Profit! 4. Hulk bows to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
Though I do like your suggestion. It bears further investigation. I'm sure Disney will make all the Marvel characters all whimpy. I'd like a recreation of Cinderella where Wolverine is "Prince Charming".
What would be interesting to know is some figures on: # of searches, country of origin of the person (e.g. American citizen returning from vacation in England VS American Immigrant returning from vacation in England), gender - it would be real interesting to find out how many women or % of all female travelers have laptops searched.
Likewise, how many mega-millionaires, diplomats, US Politicans, Law enforcement or Judges have been searched? I'd be willing to bet if enough of them are searched laws will change real quick.
Who does the imaging of the drives? I'm asking in the sense of an even further reaching-question. Suppose someone working for a Secret or TS level clearance (these examples are piss poor but just to make the point: an aviation engineer or IRS employee) is coming back across the border. Worker brought their S or TS work with them on laptop encrypted etc. etc. overseas on a project/assignment. Guy looks a bit nervous/sweaty. Border people know he's a gov't employee but decide to him anyways. He "looks" suspicious.
Wouldn't the person imaging the hard drive get into a huge heap of trouble if they manage to access and keep the S or TS data especially if they don't have that level of clearance?
By extension, if the data isn't properly secured after imaging -especially if undetermined retention time- and your company's - data gets stolen. Couldn't there be a massive lawsuit as a result of the loss of the data - competitor could have it, etc?
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Now people keep bringing up sex in this thread. You all have dirty, dirty minds. Now, I'd like to think of this as a prison in a more sociable environment. But, what happens after 30 or 40 days if its a man only crew and there are some showers in the facility ... starting to this this would be more like prison than "space" exploration..... wait a minute!
They cant make anything new in a manure industry, they cannot be the 2% of some big step, must have eg usb, blu ray, pci ect."
Fixed that for you. ;)
I was quite happy with my iMac G5. When the Intel switch happened I thought of buying a new one. When the word of the Hackintosh came out, I was more tempted to wait out and build my own. Now its nice that the iMacs seem to have IPS panels (which you'll have to pay a pretty penny for now unless you luck in with Dell). I could get a really nice i5 or i7 system with a considerably better video card, RAM and hard drive and the 12% sales tax where I live for the base price of the iMac w/o tax. And I'll have an expandable system.
And I can avoid paying for 3 yr Apple care - since if my motherboard breaks down after anytime after Applecare, I'll probably owe $500 to have it replaced at. PC? I can get a new one for $100 (or less).
If I weren't an enthusiast computer user, I'd pay the premium for the iMac. As it is, I don't want to.
If this project works like any other defense contract, the goal is always to bid low and sell high and always ask for more money for "research".
They have 6 well-fed pigs at the trough (LHM, Microsoft and co.) . They have $31 million to spend. There's going to be a slew of engineers and managers from each company working on the project. Each company will believe their solution is better which will require more money to research. They get more money but can't settle on differences, more money to settle on that. I'll stop. I don't want to feed them more ideas. You can hire me though. I've no idea what I'm doing, so I'll do a great job of increasing your budgets.
And when its all settled and settled :) I reckon the final tally will be many times the $31 mil.
Ditto. P4 3.0 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 9650 AGP ATI card. Aero works fantastic. And I'd say, Win2k3 was always faster than XP and Win 7 has seen some improvements on my system. Vista wouldn't even run on this sytem.
Too many options. For efficiency, one of two possible options should be available. And you should only need to press the "Enter" key.
So I would like to ask you, should the default answer to "Kill Patient?" be 'NO' or 'YES' ?
Your options 2,3 and 4 show that you might be willing to kill the patient. So, I think the options should be, 'NO', 'YES' and 'MAYBE' where YES (does not work) and MAYBE = YES. Plausible deniability?
Or this one: http://xkcd.com/565/
My father told me that as a graduating high-school student (Canadian) back in the 50's, a voluntary test was provided to all students to test your science and mathematics prowess. The intention was to draw attention to your knowledge in order to get a scholarship or admittance into a Canadian or US ivy-league school.
Questions on the test included "How would you land on Earth's Moon?" The answer they were looking for was totally open since it was intended to test your real knowledge of math and science.
One could probably just answer .... build a rocket, once it leaves Earth, position it to fly to the moon and wait a few days for it to get there. But, you won't attract much attention.
My dad recalled that one year - and he knew the student quite well - had probably gone as far as to detail the amount of fuel (and type of) to be used, some basic designs of the shuttle, accounting for the Van Allen Radiation belts, etc etc - all with the calculus equations/work to go with. I believe the kids' dad was an engineer but it went above and beyond what other HS students would know and showed the depths of his knowledge + his grades.
This was without calculators. And without computers/Internet back then, he would probably have spent some serious time reading books on the side - in the sciences/math naturally, to have explained his answers in as much detail.
I don't know all the details but he apparently had one of the best scores on the tests and had been accepted at Harvard or MIT.
At the least, it beats explaining how a 477 word essay in part discussing your eye color, provided enough information about your academic abilities to be admitted to an engineering program at MIT.
I don't know how "reliable" it was well before hand either. I've been reading Jeffrey Ricehlson "Spying on the Bomb". In it he describes (through results of Senate Committee Hearings, declassified intelligence reports, etc) that US Intelligence was totally caught off-guard on either the existence of a program, a lack of critical information about the programs (like, did they have a bomb?). The countries included were Russia, China, Pakistan, India, and Israel.
Perhaps, if true, it points to an over-reliance on satellite and aerial photography, and SIGINT. Or a choice in priorities. Maybe they have enough agents on the ground but they've chosen to use them for other purposes.
There's only so much the UN can do. I would hope the Europeans and Americans are sharing some information on their knowledge of other countries trying to join the nuclear club.
Passing the border using other methods to get into the US from Canada is more difficult now. AFAIK from media articles, the Great Lakes are now patrolled by US Coast Guards with .50 cal guns on board. And if you choose to walk across the boarder, there are apparently drone planes monitoring the border. I don't think these are equipped with Hellfire missiles (yet?) as their cousins in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I'd just like to see some resemblance of security on buses and trains. Buses certainly never check for guns or sharp pointy things. Some nutjob a few years back decapitated - yes cut the head off of the passenger sitting next to him. Why? We don't know except he's a nutjob. He's in a nuthouse now. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/07/31/greyhound-transcanada.html
Well, I can think of a few reasons (and I recognize the Holocaust):
1) In their regime, and in the middle east in general, denying the Holocaust can have great economic benefits, wins political favors (diplomacy) and certainly can keep them in friendly relations with Egypt, and maybe being on the more extreme side can also negotiate deals with North Korea among others
2) If they acknowledge the Holocaust, they'll have a mass of angry citizens probably out to mob the leaders of the regime
The main problem, IMO is even if they are unreasonable and don't plan to use the nuke, are we to be reassured that there are tamper-proof protection, safeguarding, and authentication systems to control the weapons? And if they use missiles as a launching veichle, are their systems accurate? If they target Sudan, are they going to hit Saudi Arabia by mistake? Oops!!???
I was thinking about that the other day. It seems odd that there is hardly anything about any South American countries having nuclear weapons ambitions.
I think it also makes dealing with nuclear 'states' more dangerous and difficult when there are more hands to deal with. I think its safe to say the first 3 countries to have nukes (US, Russia, China) have all probably realized the true burden of responsibility that comes with these weapons.
The countries that are new to the "club" all feel they have a nice new toy. Its more concerning when they don't care about showing it off.
The Earth is already polluted enough dammit. Last thing we need is 1,000s of years of radiation of our land, water and air from this crap.
IMO, there's no point in having these weapons since its most likely no one is ever going to use them. Maybe hitting some asteroids in space to save earth from near destruction is our only use (hmmm... didn't I see that in a movie?).
That's not your problem. It is your bank. I've chosen one that makes all transactions and statements in scientific notation (positive integers only). I should add that you need at least 1.00 x 10 ^ 7 dollars (US) to open the account.
I think this will be a great opportunity to recycle a lot of plastic that has ended up in landfills and (I would hope) plastic bags since they are all over the bloody place and a lot of aquatic life die from swallowing plastic bags.
My only concern is, since there's already so much stuff in landfills, is there any energy efficient to reduce the size of the landfill and get precious resources back - metals, plastic, oil, rubber, etc back?
Have each student create their "own TV station" as part of their degree requirement - no matter the area of study. Similar to research essays, you'll get the following results: 1) students who completed the assignment with no outside assistance 2) students that copied certain small portions of the data you are backing up and presenting it as their own 3) students that plagiarize everything - yes some students will debate that the same content the TV station has accumulated over the years - all 12 TB - is actually their original work.
As this data appears on the University network, the entire TV station will be backed-up in a local "Cloud". And if these types of assignment become popular at other universities, you can expect to find redundant off-site backups. By this point, the 12 TB will appear on BitTorrent (and probably on Newsgroups and IRC for the dedicated plagiarists). A full restore will only take a few days - as long as the full 12 TB is seeded.
Use the wrong gesture ..... and instead of Windows giving you a BSOD, you get the Middle Finger!
I did a lot of competitive cycling. I can attest - a heart rate monitor does wonders. This despite the fact that I have a degree in kinesiology. HRMs are a godsend.
The coolest thing I've seen are some bike and rowing trainers - hookup your bike (indoors naturally) or rowing machine to some special equipment, connect to the internet and ..... you can race against anyone else connected with this on the Net (there are some pros using this stuff too). The costs are quite high, but I'd like to try it out myself - I'm still pretty serious athlete.
I found out about Skies of Arcadia because it had such a following on DC. I saw some screen caps and read about how others were raving about the game. So, I found it ported on the PS2. I'm not a huge RPG fan since it takes too long to play most games. But Skies is a memorable experience and I had much more fun playing it than FF7 - I found the story, characters and writing much better/more fun too.
I'd love a sequel!
While the officers get tased as part of their training is a start, the officers can't account for everyone else. New recruits *tend* to be predominately males in very good physical condition, under the age of 30 and have probably played some contact sports. They know what its like to get hit, how to "take it" and their bodies are able to keep up.
There's lots of people in the general population that have medical conditions. There's lots of older men with heart conditions, people with seizure disorders, etc etc. This is the population the officers have to deal with. But since, they likely don't have these conditions, its unlikely they'll understand or think of the consequences. There's been a lot more deaths in the population from taser use, and I'm willing to bet, 0 taser deaths of officers during their training.
I agree with you. Your point isn't cynicism in the least. The point of this travel is getting someone to survive on the planet long enough for a human to collect valuable scientific information for future trips. I'd gather with what we currently know about space and what we learned from Moon landing and Mars probes, that we at least know enough that we can probably get a human to touch foot on Mars and survive the landing - on the first try is not guaranteed though.
I'd admit it would be a fascinating experience.
But when I look at Wikipeida (I'm not familiar with astronomy in the least), the Apollo 11 mission took a few days to fly to the moon and land. Assuming the same type of craft is used for the Mars rover missions, it took about 6 months to land a rover on Mars. I'm hoping this makes sense. This basically means that you have a person sitting in a dark space capsule with relatively no sense of time, no one to interact with for months on end - on a mission that they know they will make it back from.
I know some pretty dedicated people. But I can't think of anyone in a right frame of mind that would actually welcome the experience after a week. Its going to be really tough to find someone willing to do this.
And yes, the survival point is most important. I'm not sure what landing a person on the ground for a few days is going to tell us that a rover can't. Unless you ask the guy to rip his helmet or protective suit off. Seriously.
Some of the scientists involved in the Biodome thought they had the self-sustaining environment thing figured out to the T. That didn't work so well. I'm not knocking them down, but if we really want something of value, we should figure some of this independent survival in space stuff more. We're sending someone to their death. If you want to motivate them, you should at least help them find comfort in that they're being taken care of.
Finally a phone for couples to share ..... afterall, who doesn't want to got Aino?! Wonder how well it cooperates with the Wii?
And what if the NBC chime (or very similar) also makes a good duck call?
Can one (other than NBC) trademark the sound in the context of a duck call? Or since NBC hasn't trademarked it in that context, can they own the rights to it? Do you have to license the sound for this purpose?
Ummmm ...... no.In Slashdot traditional methodology, here's what is going to happen.
1. Hulk smash Eisner. Hulk smash Robert Eiger (current President). Hulk smash Mickey. Hulk smash Disney DVDs. Hulk smash Disney Theme Parks.
2. ??????
3. Profit!
4. Hulk bows to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.
Though I do like your suggestion. It bears further investigation. I'm sure Disney will make all the Marvel characters all whimpy. I'd like a recreation of Cinderella where Wolverine is "Prince Charming".
What would be interesting to know is some figures on: # of searches, country of origin of the person (e.g. American citizen returning from vacation in England VS American Immigrant returning from vacation in England), gender - it would be real interesting to find out how many women or % of all female travelers have laptops searched.
Likewise, how many mega-millionaires, diplomats, US Politicans, Law enforcement or Judges have been searched? I'd be willing to bet if enough of them are searched laws will change real quick.
Who does the imaging of the drives? I'm asking in the sense of an even further reaching-question. Suppose someone working for a Secret or TS level clearance (these examples are piss poor but just to make the point: an aviation engineer or IRS employee) is coming back across the border. Worker brought their S or TS work with them on laptop encrypted etc. etc. overseas on a project/assignment. Guy looks a bit nervous/sweaty. Border people know he's a gov't employee but decide to him anyways. He "looks" suspicious.
Wouldn't the person imaging the hard drive get into a huge heap of trouble if they manage to access and keep the S or TS data especially if they don't have that level of clearance?
By extension, if the data isn't properly secured after imaging -especially if undetermined retention time- and your company's - data gets stolen. Couldn't there be a massive lawsuit as a result of the loss of the data - competitor could have it, etc?
Easy fix. Only surf to porn sites starting with an 'X' or 'Z' in the title. Its a rare letter to use so it should -ever- show up???!!!