He's well-deserving of the title. Does he have a right to take a $500 computer and gut it? You bet. The moment he puts it on the Internet for all to see, however, he's no longer someone with some free time and a bit too much money to burn - he's flaunting his wastefulness.
It is as arrogant as somebody buying a Windows computer and then install Linux on it. How dare they waste an expensive operating system? Or maybe as arrogant as buying a computer to play games when it should be used for business purposes only.
But really, it would be more arrogant to think that you can judge him and dismiss what he wants to do with his computers. And what if his next project is to install the Mac inside a guitar? All of a sudden he has a working $500 computer again. Is he still arrogant because the sums all add up again?
Thanks for the pointers - very helpful. But, as I noted in another post in this thread, those components are not really part of the actual IE MS bundles with Windows.
So what? It still satisfies your original desire to have these components. My guess would be that these programming interfaces are probably built on top of the libraries that IE uses as an extra interface to that code. That way they can change the calling parameters to their lower level functions without affecting 3rd party software.
And yes, that could mean that bugs might be introduced in the objects that we can call that do not appear in IE itself. But for most purposes, they are quite adequate.
I own a TRGpro (PalmOS) and an Asus MyPal A716 (PocketPC). It's not a fair comparison, but I'll make it anyway. This post was made on the Asus. They both have CF slots, but the Asus has drivers for far more of the hardware I'm interested in. Basically I use the Asus far more than I ever used the TRGpro.
This is not surprising considering that the Compact Flash slot on the TRGpro and the HandEra 330 was not supported by Palm at all, and it was just the engineers of Handera that made it work. Unfortunately Handera was too small to get much support from 3rd party manufacturers. Why would they spend much time developing drivers for one relatively unknown brand of PalmOS device.
It was a shame that they could not compete with the better known companies, as they did some pretty amazing things long before anyone else in the Palm world did (like hires display and CF support). It shows how important a marketing department can be. Who would have guess?!
The value must use two backslashes (\\), insted of just one. Example: C:\\my\\cache\\folder\\is\\this
Yeah the double is wierd for some people, but thats a coding convention to use double backslashes since a backslash followed by some things means special characters like tab and new line.
Try it with forward slashes. C:/my/cache/folder/is/this
There are very few places that I have found where the forward slash does not work in Windows. Command Prompt programs seem to be the main exception since they already uses forward slash for options.
I say that we start raising kids in religious schools, teaching them only enough to carry a bomb into a resturant or a school filled with children. Start kidnapping truck drivers and tourists, and slit their necks on the 6 pm news. (think of the ratings!)
Well I suppose that it would be cheaper than spending billions of dollars to bomb the crap out of them with fire-and-forget smart bombs.
Does it have a forum, or a feedback system? It could be that they were getting a lot of, ahem, abusive messages from non-US citizens and decided this was the best way to curb them.
This is the administration that kicks you out of their political gatherings if you have a T-shirt that they don't approve of. Why on Earth (or should that be why on US soil) would they have a forum to allow the people to have a say on their website?
So, beyond merely being merely a bad analogy, your analogy falls completely apart if we accept the premise. Try to think it through next time you want to invent an analogy.
You are arguing a point about the scenario that is beyond the analogy in the hope of appearing clever. The issues that you raise are safety issues. If someone breaks these laws then people could be hurt.
To continue your line of thought, in what way could Ford prevent you from hooking up a trailer to your car? They could not. The police would be responsible for prosecuting you, but only because you did something illegal on the road and not because you tampered with the car.
However, this is all rather moot as your argument in no way invalidates the intention of the original author; that you can add a towbar onto a car, so you should be able to add a file format to your iPod.
i won't call you ignorant for the same reason he did, but you are still ignorant: there are a small number of people who want what you want, and a large number of people who want more features, and what you want is a subset of what they want so you can make do with theirs, but not vice versa, and the marginal cost of adding their features is zero, so... do the math, that's why there is no phone for you.
And what do you base this claim on? How do you know that the people who want a simple phone only are in the minority? And don't say that it is based on sales, because then you would be wrong, wrong, wrong.
I have a number of friends that get a new phone every year, just to have the latest and greatest. On the other hand, I still have the same one that I had four years ago. If anyone looked at the sales figures for just myself and one of my friends over that time, they would think that there would be four times the number of people that want new phones as there are that want old, simple ones.
So the phone companies are producing phones with heaps of features that will attract the most money, but not make the most people happy. And why not? It is a business, after all. But as the phones owned by the people you call ignorant start to die (I will be replacing my one soon), Nokia will suddenly find that people like me (who were once very pro-Nokia) look elsewhere for a "normal" phone that is not a fashion accessory.
They just need a list of all available updates, and the client can check to see if any are needed.
So instead of uploading 10 or so IDs for the server to do a query with, you would have to download thousands of them so they can check them on the client side. That would really slow down the Windows Update process.
And anybody who doesn't see a valid, legal reason to copy DVD's hasn't seen what 4-year-olds do to them.
And anyone who hires DVDs from libraries knows that it isn't a problem that is limited to 4-year-olds. I sometimes get R rated movies (I guess they would be NC-17 rated in the US) that are scratched to bits. Or chewed. And I would hate to think what the DVDs from the porno section are like!
I have hired discs that my DVD player just spits back out again. Often, only my DVD burner is able to read it. What's a guy to do???
The difference though is that you rarely had source with the programs (they were mostly shareware) whereas you _must_ have them now because of the GPL.
In the early days a lot of the Fish disks had source code on them. And they were pretty much all PD. And you used to get a lot of different things on each disk too. Then slowly everything began to go all shareware and massive, until eventually you got just one or two crippled programs on each disk.
I lost interest in them about then, and I would just pine for the good old days - when giving out the source code was not a movement, it was just what you did.
But, with my experience, Linux on the desktop is MUCH more elegant than Windoze in every way. Under Linux, I have fewer crashes, better performance, and my choice of window managers. On Windoze, I have Windoze and a series of for-pay "hacks" to make my system look different.
That's fine if all you want to do with your computer is to tinker with the way the desktop looks. I just want to do something with my computer, not do something to it. (And frankly, having a choice of window managers probably puts new users off more than it attracts them)
I have been pretty much ready to migrate my notebook from WinXP for a while by using OpenOffice, Firefox, Cygwin etc and writing my own software in Java or fairly portable C++. (If only I could get rid of that Paradox for Windows legacy application for work - maybe it would work in Wine). But I have not been able to justify the last step of removing Windows.
My Windows system system rarely crashes, and if it does it is usually just Firefox going down, but you can just run it again. I live for my wireless networking that I have setup at home and work, so I would not want to lose that. I like knowing that I can connect to a printer and know that I will be able to get a driver for it. And as for USB mice, well I didn't know that some people had problems with them under Linux. They just work in Windows.
Sure, I would never use a Windows based server, and when I set up a new system soon to do video encoding for making DVDs, I will look at Linux & BSD. However there needs to be an obviously huge productivity increase to justify the effort of uninstalling a working system to go Open Source. Being able to customise the display is not a very compelling argument. Nor is easy installation of software.
The dotDOC written by MS Office 97 is different to MS Office 2000 and different in turn to MS Office XP - and of course the corresponding Mac versions of MS Office are all slighly different again.
How long are people going to keep regurgitating this misinformation. We still run Office 97 at my company and we get thousands of docs from outside the company without any dramas. The only problems that we have had involved documents with embedded objects from applications that we do not have.
Even if you insist on having scripting for web pages (which is something I can live with), Outlook won't let you turn off scripting without also disabling it in Explorer
Maybe, but only if you turn on Javscript in your Restricted sites zone. This zone is designed to have the lowest security settings so you can use it for your mail and microsoft.com sites. Really, you are worrying about nothing here.
That said, I have always said that Microsoft need to allow us to add our own named zones so we can have fine control over web security. Four zones is not enough
I think that your parents spent too long teaching you that unions are bad when they should have been telling your that reading is good! The original poster clearly stated that the workers were merely obeying the safety rules set down by management. They were not union rules.
What I do have a problem with, is that MS sometimes not just includes browsers and video software with the OS, but made sure that it was rather hard to install an alternative product as well.
I keep hearing this sort of statement, but what are the specifics of the allegation? I mean, Netscape, Real, and Quicktime are still able to write their own applications - including the ability to become the default browser/player if they want to.
And specifically in this case, it is documented how to write your own codecs to work within the Windows video system.
Exactly what source code do Microsoft's competitors want to see, and how would it help?
Where I work we still haven't upgraded our Office from Office 97. Everytime a new version comes out we have a look at it to see if there are any new features that we need, and everytime the answer comes up negative.
Our business relies on being able to transfer documents to and from our clients. Occasionally we have a problem with having an old version. It tends to be when someone has embedded some ActiveX thing that we didn't have. It is so rare that this happens that nobody ever suggests that we should upgrade.
One of our satellite offices upgraded to Office 2000 (without permission) to fix a perceived problem that they had when opening files sent from outside the company. We didn't know about this until a long time afterwards. In the meantime, we transfered documents backwards and forwards between the offices and never had a hitch.
On the other hand, occasionally we have our own documents get corrupt and crash Word as soon as they are opened or printed. In those cases, I fire up OpenOffice and resave them in that. Works every time. Sometimes having a different suite can get around the bugs in the old 97 code.
Eventually we will upgrade. When we do, I am hoping that it will be to OpenOffice. There are a few things that still need to be fixed in OpenOffice before we can use it, some of which is to do with file compatibility with the Microsoft format. I am hoping that I can convince management here that it would be in our interest if we got the source and help make the changes that we require. They are actually quite eager to use Open Source stuff that I think that they will get the concept of giving back to the community.
It is still cheaper than upgrading all our Microsoft products.
Those "microcomputers" aren't personal computers, which is what matters in terms of marketplace forces. MS DOS was crucial for creating the "PC compatible".
By what definition are microcomputers not personal computers? If they were any more personal you would have to slap them!
Maybe you are getting confused with IBM's use of PC as a brand name.
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It is as arrogant as somebody buying a Windows computer and then install Linux on it. How dare they waste an expensive operating system? Or maybe as arrogant as buying a computer to play games when it should be used for business purposes only.
But really, it would be more arrogant to think that you can judge him and dismiss what he wants to do with his computers. And what if his next project is to install the Mac inside a guitar? All of a sudden he has a working $500 computer again. Is he still arrogant because the sums all add up again?
What is so bad with wanting to Think Different?
So what? It still satisfies your original desire to have these components. My guess would be that these programming interfaces are probably built on top of the libraries that IE uses as an extra interface to that code. That way they can change the calling parameters to their lower level functions without affecting 3rd party software.
And yes, that could mean that bugs might be introduced in the objects that we can call that do not appear in IE itself. But for most purposes, they are quite adequate.
This is not surprising considering that the Compact Flash slot on the TRGpro and the HandEra 330 was not supported by Palm at all, and it was just the engineers of Handera that made it work. Unfortunately Handera was too small to get much support from 3rd party manufacturers. Why would they spend much time developing drivers for one relatively unknown brand of PalmOS device.
It was a shame that they could not compete with the better known companies, as they did some pretty amazing things long before anyone else in the Palm world did (like hires display and CF support). It shows how important a marketing department can be. Who would have guess?!
I agree, Alice would be quite an improvement over the current Editor, Eliza, who just repeats everything.
Try it with forward slashes. C:/my/cache/folder/is/this
There are very few places that I have found where the forward slash does not work in Windows. Command Prompt programs seem to be the main exception since they already uses forward slash for options.
Well I suppose that it would be cheaper than spending billions of dollars to bomb the crap out of them with fire-and-forget smart bombs.
This is the administration that kicks you out of their political gatherings if you have a T-shirt that they don't approve of. Why on Earth (or should that be why on US soil) would they have a forum to allow the people to have a say on their website?
It was in the link from a message posted by Egekrusher2K (610429) a few messages up the chain from here.
It was in reply to someone who said that MacOS X had no problems like this Winamp one. It was not referring to the original Winamp problem itself.
You are arguing a point about the scenario that is beyond the analogy in the hope of appearing clever. The issues that you raise are safety issues. If someone breaks these laws then people could be hurt.
To continue your line of thought, in what way could Ford prevent you from hooking up a trailer to your car? They could not. The police would be responsible for prosecuting you, but only because you did something illegal on the road and not because you tampered with the car.
However, this is all rather moot as your argument in no way invalidates the intention of the original author; that you can add a towbar onto a car, so you should be able to add a file format to your iPod.
And what do you base this claim on? How do you know that the people who want a simple phone only are in the minority? And don't say that it is based on sales, because then you would be wrong, wrong, wrong.
I have a number of friends that get a new phone every year, just to have the latest and greatest. On the other hand, I still have the same one that I had four years ago. If anyone looked at the sales figures for just myself and one of my friends over that time, they would think that there would be four times the number of people that want new phones as there are that want old, simple ones.
So the phone companies are producing phones with heaps of features that will attract the most money, but not make the most people happy. And why not? It is a business, after all. But as the phones owned by the people you call ignorant start to die (I will be replacing my one soon), Nokia will suddenly find that people like me (who were once very pro-Nokia) look elsewhere for a "normal" phone that is not a fashion accessory.
So instead of uploading 10 or so IDs for the server to do a query with, you would have to download thousands of them so they can check them on the client side. That would really slow down the Windows Update process.
And anyone who hires DVDs from libraries knows that it isn't a problem that is limited to 4-year-olds. I sometimes get R rated movies (I guess they would be NC-17 rated in the US) that are scratched to bits. Or chewed. And I would hate to think what the DVDs from the porno section are like!
I have hired discs that my DVD player just spits back out again. Often, only my DVD burner is able to read it. What's a guy to do???
In the early days a lot of the Fish disks had source code on them. And they were pretty much all PD. And you used to get a lot of different things on each disk too. Then slowly everything began to go all shareware and massive, until eventually you got just one or two crippled programs on each disk.
I lost interest in them about then, and I would just pine for the good old days - when giving out the source code was not a movement, it was just what you did.
Yep. Democracy's a bitch, hey?
But, with my experience, Linux on the desktop is MUCH more elegant than Windoze in every way. Under Linux, I have fewer crashes, better performance, and my choice of window managers. On Windoze, I have Windoze and a series of for-pay "hacks" to make my system look different.
That's fine if all you want to do with your computer is to tinker with the way the desktop looks. I just want to do something with my computer, not do something to it. (And frankly, having a choice of window managers probably puts new users off more than it attracts them)
I have been pretty much ready to migrate my notebook from WinXP for a while by using OpenOffice, Firefox, Cygwin etc and writing my own software in Java or fairly portable C++. (If only I could get rid of that Paradox for Windows legacy application for work - maybe it would work in Wine). But I have not been able to justify the last step of removing Windows.
My Windows system system rarely crashes, and if it does it is usually just Firefox going down, but you can just run it again. I live for my wireless networking that I have setup at home and work, so I would not want to lose that. I like knowing that I can connect to a printer and know that I will be able to get a driver for it. And as for USB mice, well I didn't know that some people had problems with them under Linux. They just work in Windows.
Sure, I would never use a Windows based server, and when I set up a new system soon to do video encoding for making DVDs, I will look at Linux & BSD. However there needs to be an obviously huge productivity increase to justify the effort of uninstalling a working system to go Open Source. Being able to customise the display is not a very compelling argument. Nor is easy installation of software.
So is Australia not considered a "foreign nation" in the US then ? I'd always assumed they actually had they're own goverment...
No, we do not have our own government. John Howard is our Prime Minister, so at the moment the government belongs to George W.
Well I have had documents written in Word 97 that get corrupted somehow so that it comes out garbage in Word, but can still be read in OpenOffice.
That was my main use of OpenOffice when I first started using the product - fixing up our own docs that got trashed somehow. Bloody useful it is too!
But you can't say that it was a file format problem. One bad doc does not invalidate the entire file format.
The dotDOC written by MS Office 97 is different to MS Office 2000 and different in turn to MS Office XP - and of course the corresponding Mac versions of MS Office are all slighly different again.
How long are people going to keep regurgitating this misinformation. We still run Office 97 at my company and we get thousands of docs from outside the company without any dramas. The only problems that we have had involved documents with embedded objects from applications that we do not have.
Even if you insist on having scripting for web pages (which is something I can live with), Outlook won't let you turn off scripting without also disabling it in Explorer
Maybe, but only if you turn on Javscript in your Restricted sites zone. This zone is designed to have the lowest security settings so you can use it for your mail and microsoft.com sites. Really, you are worrying about nothing here.
That said, I have always said that Microsoft need to allow us to add our own named zones so we can have fine control over web security. Four zones is not enough
union work rules usually do.
I think that your parents spent too long teaching you that unions are bad when they should have been telling your that reading is good! The original poster clearly stated that the workers were merely obeying the safety rules set down by management. They were not union rules.
I get the feeling that I have just been trolled!
What I do have a problem with, is that MS sometimes not just includes browsers and video software with the OS, but made sure that it was rather hard to install an alternative product as well.
I keep hearing this sort of statement, but what are the specifics of the allegation? I mean, Netscape, Real, and Quicktime are still able to write their own applications - including the ability to become the default browser/player if they want to.
And specifically in this case, it is documented how to write your own codecs to work within the Windows video system.
Exactly what source code do Microsoft's competitors want to see, and how would it help?
Where I work we still haven't upgraded our Office from Office 97. Everytime a new version comes out we have a look at it to see if there are any new features that we need, and everytime the answer comes up negative.
Our business relies on being able to transfer documents to and from our clients. Occasionally we have a problem with having an old version. It tends to be when someone has embedded some ActiveX thing that we didn't have. It is so rare that this happens that nobody ever suggests that we should upgrade.
One of our satellite offices upgraded to Office 2000 (without permission) to fix a perceived problem that they had when opening files sent from outside the company. We didn't know about this until a long time afterwards. In the meantime, we transfered documents backwards and forwards between the offices and never had a hitch.
On the other hand, occasionally we have our own documents get corrupt and crash Word as soon as they are opened or printed. In those cases, I fire up OpenOffice and resave them in that. Works every time. Sometimes having a different suite can get around the bugs in the old 97 code.
Eventually we will upgrade. When we do, I am hoping that it will be to OpenOffice. There are a few things that still need to be fixed in OpenOffice before we can use it, some of which is to do with file compatibility with the Microsoft format. I am hoping that I can convince management here that it would be in our interest if we got the source and help make the changes that we require. They are actually quite eager to use Open Source stuff that I think that they will get the concept of giving back to the community.
It is still cheaper than upgrading all our Microsoft products.
I think of CowboyNeal when I masturbate(ewwwwww)
Great, you owe me a new keyboard because this one is all wet now.
OH GOD! Not from that!! I spilt my coffee when I was laughing. It's not what you think!!! Damn! Where's the Cancel button????
Those "microcomputers" aren't personal computers, which is what matters in terms of marketplace forces. MS DOS was crucial for creating the "PC compatible".
By what definition are microcomputers not personal computers? If they were any more personal you would have to slap them!
Maybe you are getting confused with IBM's use of PC as a brand name.