Theoretically it will be cheaper (Though I wouldn't be surprised if they priced it the same or more).
Depending on how it's setup and what software they include, it could be a reasonable alternative to Windows. You wouldn't have to buy office (You don't with Windows, but most people aren't aware of..and open office would be marketed as being a benefit by Dell), You currently don't have to deal with viruses. Hell, a majority of what you'd want to do would be available via free software.
Generally when a lot of people look at Linux and think it's hard to maintain or install, you're not looking at a system that's designed to run Linux. You don't have a restore disk that will restore your box to factory defaults in 30 minutes. Your wireless chipset doesn't work correctly. Your running conflicting drivers, or need to compile the drivers yourself. Look at how well system76 boxes are setup. I'm not sure if Dell will make machines as good as System76 does, but if they do they have a strong alternative to Windows.
I've converted a number of people to Ubuntu over the years. People who aren't technically savvy. The only thing that they didn't like was that OpenOffice skrewed up word documents (Which was about 4-5 years ago..oo is a lot better now) and the lack of games (Which of course, some people liked because they were going through College classes and didn't want the time wasting temptation)
IMO, I don't believe Linux is as hard as everyone things if everything is setup correctly at the start and is on the right hardware. Of course you will run into some strange problems that will require someone with the knowledge of Linux to fix. The same can be said with Windows. I've run into some very strange Windows problems; Linux is not unique on that front.
Not for use with other 3D applications (i.e. games) - even affects performance after switching back to a 2D windows manager That's more a problem of him using XGL and not AIGLX. From my understanding XGL currently skrews up OpenGL calls because it takes over that part of the system. AIGLX is an indirect renderer, so it shouldn't have any of those problems. (If you look at some of the videos of Beryl on youtube you'll see people running wow in cedega or doom 3 while shifting the cube around..and having movies play and such at the same time...those people are using AIGLX)
Last time I tried kismet (about a month and a half ago) It crashed on the n800 when the screen blanked. Other than that, it works pretty well. It actually gets better reception than some laptops I've used. Not sure if they fixed that problem or not. On the 770 it works perfectly.
I was eying the 770 for awhile as a possible pentest platform. I ended up grabbing the n800 the week it came out. It's a pretty nifty product. Only problem with me is the lack of usbhost and the flakey wifi drivers (It puts in ghost data which skrews up some programs, like aircrack)
Kismet does have a driver and works fine with it, but I believe it still freezes up when the screen blanks. The programs on it that came from the 770 still need some work to be used properly. You also have some weird endless rebooting problems if a program you install flakes out on startup.
Overall it has great potential, but currently mines been regulated to running fbreader as an ebook reader. It's been the best ebook reader I've used so far, so I'm still happy with it.
Oh, and for a media device.. it support rhapsody, has an fm radio (of course with horrid reception), plays web radio, and orb support has just come out for it.
I find rm -i really annoying, as you have to say yes to each file. I found this alias for rm somewhere on the net and I currently use it. When you rm something it'll list everything that it plans to rm and asks you if you want to remove them (it lists a directory contents, but not the contents of a directory in that directory)
>> And only 3 cube games? See, this is why I hate Sony, because the consumers of their products are freakin' troglodytes. Here's a few traditional cube games: Metroid Prime 1/2, Resident Evil 4, Eternal Darkness, Soul Calibur 2, Viewtiful Joe, F-Zero GX, Tales of Symphonia, Prince of Persia series, etc. SC2 being the only one that arguably suffers for being on the cube, due to the controller, but it makes up for that with lower load times(almost non-existant) and the best exclusive character. Other cross-platform titles are better on the cube than the PS2.
of which Resident Evil 4, Soul Caliber 2, Viewtiful Joe, Tales of Symphonia, Prince of Persia series, etc were also available on other systems. I prefered Prince of Persia on the PS2 to the GC.
I used to own a gamecube, but traded it in. My girlfriend owns a wii. I own a ps2, xbox, and dreamcast (Used to own a 360..might get one again in a few months). I've been looking at gamecube games to play on her wii, but I just can't find any worth buying. (I've beaten eternal darkness, but I consider that worth buying and playing again but I can't find a copy locally). I can't think of more than a half dozen games that I'd want to play on the Gamecube, but I can think of two dozen that are available for the PS2. Xbox had a few good exclusives, but not that many (I modded mine and used it to play videos for a long time..I only play Ninja Gaiden on it now)
I consider the ps2 to have a superior number of good games to the Gamecube, but the ps2 also had tons more games than the gamecube.
Of course if people would consider me a fanboy of anything, it would be either PC gaming (which I rarely do these days) or Dreamcast. I had a dreamcast when it first game out and it also suffered from a lack of good games then. But it's gotten a lot more since then (some of which have been ported, like Ikaruga)
Generally with those deals you are supposed to cancel your subscription or else it automatically gets renewed. Then you get the bills, and if you don't pay them off to collections for you!
Interesting thing happened to me about six years ago. I got guitar world in the mail, but didn't renew my subscription when it ran out. They stopped sending me magazines, but they thought that I was a non paying member so they sent me off to collections. The funny thing about the collections agency is that they had a option # that was just for if you canceled your subscription but got sent to collections for nonpayment on the subscription. Pressed that, put in my subscription # and never heard from them again..
hm..maybe I should get a credit report.
> The highly profitable soundcard era is long gone and their mp3 player lineup is now being sold at cut rate prices at Wal-Mart. That can't be good for the bottom line.
Creative posted record profits after winning the Zen suit against apple. The money they got from that was eleven times more than their profits for last year.
and real 'audiophile users' wouldn't touch creative. (Well, that's not really true.. they'll touch the E-MU line that was a creative bought company) Creative has never sold high end cards under the soundblaster name (even though the marketing on the box says otherwise)
Doesn't matter about limiting the tries per mac. A majority of tools designed to crack WPA are done via offline attacks. You sniff the 4 way auth handshake, and with that you can use an offline password cracker, such as cowpatty, against it. Cowpatty also supports hashes (rainbow table attack) and the church of wifi released hashes for 1000 of the most common ssids using a ~174k dictionary. (That's the major problem with using a hash attack, the SSID is used as salt with WPA). So in the end, it's just weak passwords that's the problem.
Most of gamestop's profit (gamestop owns ebgames now) comes from the selling of used software. There are problems with selling used PC games, which is why they don't have that many. It's also why unless you preorder a new game at gamestop, it'll be sold out while the target in the same shopping center will have 20+ copies (this happened to me with gears of war). Gamestop does not want to stock new merchandise, the profit margin is much higher stocking used.
My one question about linux machiens with an uptime of a year+ is. How do you update the kernel? There must be a few show stopping bugs or exploits available for a kernel over a year old.
Don't give your cat sudo access. I believe in ubuntu only members of the wheel group can use sudo. Sudo is rather nice actually, you can do all sorts of logging, give people access to only specific commands, setup sudo groups for machines, users, etc. It has a nice lengthy man page, but generally most people just set it up with @wheel = ALL (ALL) (or something like that, I haven't messed with the sudoers file in awhile) and that'll give anyone in the wheel group access to sudo to run root commands.
You can even setup sudo to run commands as another user, and not just as root. It's a rather nice and versitile program.
Yes, because the fees in running servers for wow are the same as the ones in running battlenet for starcraft.
The fact is, MMORPGS take a lot of money to make and keep running. You're not going to sustain that type of mmorpg without having a monthly income. $15 is a normal price for MMORPGS, or pay for muds for that matter. If MMORPGS aren't for you, then don't play them.
And I don't count Guild wars as a true MMORPG. It's basically diablo, only instead of a chat room to find people to play in, you have various towns you can find people in.
(And just to note, I've never played a mmorpg for more than a month..I played Wow for 2 weeks, and CoH for a month..and a whole lot of others for less than that..but I did play a MUD (Gemstone III/IV) for over 10 years and that cost the same price per month as a mmorpg..or more)
So far I've found kismet (which mostly works, but will crash the n800 if you leave it alone long enough for your screen to blank) (kismet can be found at http://eko.one.pl/maemo) And aircrack and nmap (http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/). I know that there's a port of metasploit somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it.
Also programs that use bluetooth and are designed for the 770 but not the n800 crash the n800 due to bt driver incompatabilities (the n800 uses a newer bluez stack) Does anyone know of any bluetooth scanners for the n800?
If you read the article, they're mainly targeting big businesses and law enforcement. They're being sold as a way for non technical people to preform pentests (I.e. buy this $3600 device and you won't have to buy the $40,000 pentest from company x)
Because backtrack doesn't run on an arm processor. This is basically a custom distro for the nokia 770. You're mostly paying for them setting up the tools correctly and the GUI interfaces. They might have also created patches for some of these tools for them to run on the Nokia 770 properly.
One thing to note, is that since it is Linux if they did patch these programs you can get the source code from them when you buy one and then distribute it (and return the device if you can..heh) Of course I'm sure their GUI isn't under the gpl.
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The fun isn't in winning. It's annoying/pissing off the people you're playing with.
It's time to bring back VRML!
Plus I hear the BSA gives a nice percentage to the whistleblower.
Theoretically it will be cheaper (Though I wouldn't be surprised if they priced it the same or more).
Depending on how it's setup and what software they include, it could be a reasonable alternative to Windows. You wouldn't have to buy office (You don't with Windows, but most people aren't aware of..and open office would be marketed as being a benefit by Dell), You currently don't have to deal with viruses. Hell, a majority of what you'd want to do would be available via free software.
Generally when a lot of people look at Linux and think it's hard to maintain or install, you're not looking at a system that's designed to run Linux. You don't have a restore disk that will restore your box to factory defaults in 30 minutes. Your wireless chipset doesn't work correctly. Your running conflicting drivers, or need to compile the drivers yourself. Look at how well system76 boxes are setup. I'm not sure if Dell will make machines as good as System76 does, but if they do they have a strong alternative to Windows.
I've converted a number of people to Ubuntu over the years. People who aren't technically savvy. The only thing that they didn't like was that OpenOffice skrewed up word documents (Which was about 4-5 years ago..oo is a lot better now) and the lack of games (Which of course, some people liked because they were going through College classes and didn't want the time wasting temptation)
IMO, I don't believe Linux is as hard as everyone things if everything is setup correctly at the start and is on the right hardware. Of course you will run into some strange problems that will require someone with the knowledge of Linux to fix. The same can be said with Windows. I've run into some very strange Windows problems; Linux is not unique on that front.
You got aircrack working on it? Is there a repository with that in it or did you compile it yourself?
Last time I tried kismet (about a month and a half ago) It crashed on the n800 when the screen blanked. Other than that, it works pretty well. It actually gets better reception than some laptops I've used. Not sure if they fixed that problem or not. On the 770 it works perfectly.
the n800 has flash 7. I believe it's not that optimized for the n800 or the arm in general. It has horrible flash video playback performance.
I was eying the 770 for awhile as a possible pentest platform. I ended up grabbing the n800 the week it came out. It's a pretty nifty product. Only problem with me is the lack of usbhost and the flakey wifi drivers (It puts in ghost data which skrews up some programs, like aircrack) Kismet does have a driver and works fine with it, but I believe it still freezes up when the screen blanks. The programs on it that came from the 770 still need some work to be used properly. You also have some weird endless rebooting problems if a program you install flakes out on startup. Overall it has great potential, but currently mines been regulated to running fbreader as an ebook reader. It's been the best ebook reader I've used so far, so I'm still happy with it. Oh, and for a media device.. it support rhapsody, has an fm radio (of course with horrid reception), plays web radio, and orb support has just come out for it.
Wii Dev kits currently have a 3 month wait time/waiting list.
>> And only 3 cube games? See, this is why I hate Sony, because the consumers of their products are freakin' troglodytes. Here's a few traditional cube games: Metroid Prime 1/2, Resident Evil 4, Eternal Darkness, Soul Calibur 2, Viewtiful Joe, F-Zero GX, Tales of Symphonia, Prince of Persia series, etc. SC2 being the only one that arguably suffers for being on the cube, due to the controller, but it makes up for that with lower load times(almost non-existant) and the best exclusive character. Other cross-platform titles are better on the cube than the PS2. of which Resident Evil 4, Soul Caliber 2, Viewtiful Joe, Tales of Symphonia, Prince of Persia series, etc were also available on other systems. I prefered Prince of Persia on the PS2 to the GC. I used to own a gamecube, but traded it in. My girlfriend owns a wii. I own a ps2, xbox, and dreamcast (Used to own a 360..might get one again in a few months). I've been looking at gamecube games to play on her wii, but I just can't find any worth buying. (I've beaten eternal darkness, but I consider that worth buying and playing again but I can't find a copy locally). I can't think of more than a half dozen games that I'd want to play on the Gamecube, but I can think of two dozen that are available for the PS2. Xbox had a few good exclusives, but not that many (I modded mine and used it to play videos for a long time..I only play Ninja Gaiden on it now) I consider the ps2 to have a superior number of good games to the Gamecube, but the ps2 also had tons more games than the gamecube. Of course if people would consider me a fanboy of anything, it would be either PC gaming (which I rarely do these days) or Dreamcast. I had a dreamcast when it first game out and it also suffered from a lack of good games then. But it's gotten a lot more since then (some of which have been ported, like Ikaruga)
Generally with those deals you are supposed to cancel your subscription or else it automatically gets renewed. Then you get the bills, and if you don't pay them off to collections for you! Interesting thing happened to me about six years ago. I got guitar world in the mail, but didn't renew my subscription when it ran out. They stopped sending me magazines, but they thought that I was a non paying member so they sent me off to collections. The funny thing about the collections agency is that they had a option # that was just for if you canceled your subscription but got sent to collections for nonpayment on the subscription. Pressed that, put in my subscription # and never heard from them again.. hm..maybe I should get a credit report.
> The highly profitable soundcard era is long gone and their mp3 player lineup is now being sold at cut rate prices at Wal-Mart. That can't be good for the bottom line. Creative posted record profits after winning the Zen suit against apple. The money they got from that was eleven times more than their profits for last year.
and real 'audiophile users' wouldn't touch creative. (Well, that's not really true.. they'll touch the E-MU line that was a creative bought company) Creative has never sold high end cards under the soundblaster name (even though the marketing on the box says otherwise)
Doesn't matter about limiting the tries per mac. A majority of tools designed to crack WPA are done via offline attacks. You sniff the 4 way auth handshake, and with that you can use an offline password cracker, such as cowpatty, against it. Cowpatty also supports hashes (rainbow table attack) and the church of wifi released hashes for 1000 of the most common ssids using a ~174k dictionary. (That's the major problem with using a hash attack, the SSID is used as salt with WPA). So in the end, it's just weak passwords that's the problem.
ah yeah, I've heard of doing it the kexec way..I wonder how stable/viable that really is. Never known anyone that has actually done it.
Most of gamestop's profit (gamestop owns ebgames now) comes from the selling of used software. There are problems with selling used PC games, which is why they don't have that many. It's also why unless you preorder a new game at gamestop, it'll be sold out while the target in the same shopping center will have 20+ copies (this happened to me with gears of war). Gamestop does not want to stock new merchandise, the profit margin is much higher stocking used.
My one question about linux machiens with an uptime of a year+ is. How do you update the kernel? There must be a few show stopping bugs or exploits available for a kernel over a year old.
Don't give your cat sudo access. I believe in ubuntu only members of the wheel group can use sudo. Sudo is rather nice actually, you can do all sorts of logging, give people access to only specific commands, setup sudo groups for machines, users, etc. It has a nice lengthy man page, but generally most people just set it up with @wheel = ALL (ALL) (or something like that, I haven't messed with the sudoers file in awhile) and that'll give anyone in the wheel group access to sudo to run root commands. You can even setup sudo to run commands as another user, and not just as root. It's a rather nice and versitile program.
Yes, because the fees in running servers for wow are the same as the ones in running battlenet for starcraft. The fact is, MMORPGS take a lot of money to make and keep running. You're not going to sustain that type of mmorpg without having a monthly income. $15 is a normal price for MMORPGS, or pay for muds for that matter. If MMORPGS aren't for you, then don't play them. And I don't count Guild wars as a true MMORPG. It's basically diablo, only instead of a chat room to find people to play in, you have various towns you can find people in. (And just to note, I've never played a mmorpg for more than a month..I played Wow for 2 weeks, and CoH for a month..and a whole lot of others for less than that..but I did play a MUD (Gemstone III/IV) for over 10 years and that cost the same price per month as a mmorpg..or more)
So far I've found kismet (which mostly works, but will crash the n800 if you leave it alone long enough for your screen to blank) (kismet can be found at http://eko.one.pl/maemo) And aircrack and nmap (http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/). I know that there's a port of metasploit somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Also programs that use bluetooth and are designed for the 770 but not the n800 crash the n800 due to bt driver incompatabilities (the n800 uses a newer bluez stack) Does anyone know of any bluetooth scanners for the n800?
If you read the article, they're mainly targeting big businesses and law enforcement. They're being sold as a way for non technical people to preform pentests (I.e. buy this $3600 device and you won't have to buy the $40,000 pentest from company x)
Because backtrack doesn't run on an arm processor. This is basically a custom distro for the nokia 770. You're mostly paying for them setting up the tools correctly and the GUI interfaces. They might have also created patches for some of these tools for them to run on the Nokia 770 properly. One thing to note, is that since it is Linux if they did patch these programs you can get the source code from them when you buy one and then distribute it (and return the device if you can..heh) Of course I'm sure their GUI isn't under the gpl.
One good thing about the life drive is that if you smack someone in the head with it..it'll become the death drive..muwahahha.