the only out of court settlement here is if Kazaa people will hang themselves, handover all their money, and a complete list of IPs of all users even dare to attempt a download of kazaa.
couldn't agree more. Some expansions are great, like Blizzards Brood War, it really adds a flavor to it. On the other hand....The Sims....Amish paradise there, and we are the cows. I thought the Sims expansion always added flavor, but enough is enough.
I doubt many will be excited after paying 20+ bucks for an expansion pack that allows you to buy different shower stalls.
But hey, why give a patch out for free if you can charge 20-40 bucks for it?
I don't know if you have seen some news report on college kids downloading (they tend to pick those who are quite ignorant but think they are "l33t", chances are, the colleges busted their ass right after the interview aired). Most of them claim that it's free and they are poor, and nothing is stolen because nothing physical is being stolen (then wtf are they watching or listening to?). Now this free shit has become "yo cutie, check out my 'connections'". It's now a way to get girls into your room.
I agree to ADAPT OR PERISH. The Internet is a place where distance is almost eliminated, and there's absolutely more than enough opportunities out there for companies to gain their exposure to. RIAA/MPAA could've seriously profitted from the Internet, with a few "adjustments" to the current usage. Now it's too late. Kazaa exposed itself to the massive less-savvy user group and it will be difficult to turn or even stop them, without striking some dominating fear upon them.
Ebay is a gathering place where people can come on and sell their stuff. In a sense, Ebay is nothing more than a msg board almost. However, over the past years, people used Ebay as their median of business. That serves as a new opportunity for many (as well as TAXES for uncle Sam)
True, I agree that Ebay should have quite a bit of protection for the sellers as well as buyers (remember the little kid who bid for millions worth antique and thought it was a game?). Protection DOES NOT EQUAL to babysitting. There's no easy way to prevent 5 year olds giving negative feedback or bidding on crap they don't want, just for kicks. The drawback is that ebay do not have the necessary information to take drastic actions, they are, again, a median. I have seen and thought about ways to avoid that, but since I don't work for them, nor I use their services, oh well =P
That lawyer better start selling his logic on ebay soon. If he can put a monetary value on his reputation in a MSG board, then those who didn't leave him positive should be in the case. His reputation cannot be quantified, Ebay has risks, and I am sure he AGREED before entering. If he wins, thousands of ebay sellers will follow. He probably should sue himself too, since I doubt anyone will EVER bid on his sales for the fear of being sued.
He might win, actually. Even some extreme cases have their doubts....(McDonald Case - I am clumsy so I will sue your ass to be responsible).
A Taiwan young man, 20 something, allegedly died from gaming in a PC cafe after a continuous session of 27 hours.
A Korean young man, 20 something, allegedly died from gaming in a PC cafe after a whooping non-stop 60+ hours (around 3 days)
A Hong Kong teen, allegedly commited suicide by jumping off a building after he lost his highly priced artifact from an attack by an anonymous player (or hacker, translation was rough here). He was playing at a PC cafe at the time.
News source from a Hong Kong technology newspaper weekly.
15 seconds? That seems like an awfully long time to recognize subject headers like: bigger your little buddy, or second chance schooling, get better chances.
Or perhaps that long to "read" through the samples from "young teens needing your company"
Can there be any severe punishment for spammers like this? Hang? Shot? Hang by their balls? Dipped in honey in a room with fire ants, listen to britney spears / Macy Gray songs non-stop...
Sony is truely lacking in customer support department, and a few other things. I bought a DV camera from them under heavy research. If it breaks, you are screwed.
Also I wanted to get a PS2 (damn you square, PS only), looked at the warranty on my friend's PS2. There's a noticable clause it there that kind of states if you leave a CD in the console, warranty is void.......leaves me asking......WTF?
She is leaving at the end of the year. At the danger of being hated for repeating myself: THere is a danger here knowing that they planned on attacking home end users this year, wouldn't it be possible that something is planned that a step down would result from the action anyways?
Besides....... Would you be surprised when you find out your computer was hacked and a list of files were anonymously sent to *ahem*
hmmm, and they had plans with going after individual consumers on the Internet and stuff. Are they planning to go so far that they are going to need her to step down?
Is this a heads up that something extremely controversal is about to happen?
yes, instead of feeling a large polo stick roughly charging in, the DRM will be implemented silently and all your information will be obtained without notice.
True true. Let's say Quake was violent, was it more violent than, let's say the movie resident evil? Or We Were Soldiers? Yet, I saw little kids, like 8, in those movie theaters watching and eating popcorn (some schemes turned my stomach upside down, I don't know how they still eat). The only difference is, Quake is violence from the player's part, where he/she has the option to CREATE violence (You could theoratically be morally against killing and running around in a deathmatch not firing a single shot.........but then that would be ludicrous). Movies and News impose it to reality, I guess.
I am no parent myself, but I respect that you are a player and have the responsibility to lock them away from your kids. What is restricted is often more interesting to a child than something common. My point is, if a gamer cannot be responsible with their kids, then dont be a parent! Having kids is a right, yes, but in that case, it's the kids' right to have responsible parents.
A child is like a blank piece of paper, parents have the responbility to make it the right color. Imagine irresponsibility as leaving the paper in the middle of a city. What happens to it?
uh oh, all future CDs require an online activation code, and crashes your CD player, which must be 90x speed in order to hear the songs at "normal tone"
The way I see it, there's no point. If you have a product that you can't copy due to DRM, wouldn't that defeats the purpose of getting CDR/DVDR? Like the Sun Tzu Art of War laws, know thy self, know thy enemy, victory is possible. Thinking like these people, having a increased price of CDR/DVDR will strike a moral blow to their targeted audience, with their previous establishments. The DRM will protect their future investments. Now seeing it that way, it is a legitimate approach, BUT, highly immoral and unethical. Ultimately, the idea, rather they admit or not (doesn't matter, it IS this way), is play it their rules or not play at all. Leaving us to believe we as consumers don't have rights, just options, offered by them. Alternatively, there are none. So is either their way or.....no way. In general, a fan just takes what's given. Adding that to their above and beyond of power (which they asserted through means not wise to mention). They claim to have justice, yes, but I do believe justice is not black and white, and it is stretchable
I agree actually. People in general like to dismiss anything suspicious, unfortunately. Just like the P3s with the Unique IDs.
The idea is bad, knowing that whatever you do can be tracked. Hell, if everyone were goody two shoes, never broke a law (assuming stupid ones like no icecream in your pocket), there's no need for such devices. From another perspective though, there's also no HARM in such devices. Anything has two sides. Even the P3 unique IDs. True you information is being tracked possibly, but what if it's used for good: tracking the bastard who stole your computer? Banking checks your computer ID? Company networks will only allow those with certified IDs to access interal information?
However, as these information can be used both ways. Some people use these systems for assumed guilt on us consumers, to retaliate, we assume guilt on them for implementing it.
I saw from most threads that people do admit that most people or people they know use Blank CDs for "less-than-legal-reasons". In reality, what's the use in trying to stop them from doing this levy? What can be the arguement? I for one do not like the idea and will go against it all the way. But I must ask: out of what context? What support do I have? I understand that this is hard on people with legitimate reasons for CDRs (promotional CDs, research projects, etc), but question is, what % is that of the total CD consumption? I do make audio CDs, but from existing CDs I bought (to avoid damage during my high rate of traveling). I don't think that would make a reasonable arguement (if it breaks, buy another one. The record companies do make more of a profit that way....) Some said that this is infringing our rights. Rights to do what? Innocent until proven guilty, probably won't work anymore, especially when the battle of the lawyers is how much dough you have in reserve. Guilty, until proven more guilty, seems to be the trend
the strangest thing I found was on some study aboard guy's computer. It was running some Chinese/Japanese/Thai version of windows or something. ALL folders and files were in non-English. Upon clicking what I thought was his virus scanner, a cartoon girl popped up and asked for my 'manly' stick.
I just told him to reinstall English windows or find a translator, cuz basically anything I clicked on resulted in something I rather not see. (I never knew Aladdin did pr0n)
Same thing happened to me, too. I was installing Windows 95 A version on my oldie 486 DX50 a long time ago, and upon completion, it just clinked and destroyed itself.
I was a kid so I told my dad that windows 95 is electronic version of a paper shredder
Certain people have an uncanny way of "changing" things with wheels. Imagine a rice rocket segway: 1. plenty of stickers to make it go faster 2. +2" chrome/alloy wheels 3. bigger exhaust pipe or heatsink, with an amplifier attached 4. larger battery packs 5. lower the chassis 6. various tricks and stickers to enhance total output power by 0.005% - 10% 7. Add turbo turbines 8. Add a double decker fender 9. various stablizers opt for drag race
could be dangerous when these people drag race during day or midnight going at 14mph!!!!!! You can even think about the elderly involved in such events!!! I understand why these cali cities want to ban these.
If they can do all that to a build-yourself KIA or go-cart Echo, why not these?
In any other industry this would be called profiteering or unfair trading. However, when you're one of the largest industries on the face of the planet and have some very slick and highly paid lobyists then you can get away with murder right?
Probably, as long as you have enough money to hire a squirrel ninja/shinobi to plant a CDR media into the victims hands. If anybody dares to ask, say the victim is a pirate and you were protecting your property?
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the only out of court settlement here is if Kazaa people will hang themselves, handover all their money, and a complete list of IPs of all users even dare to attempt a download of kazaa.
cuz as soon as you pop your head out in the open, they would chaingun you with silver lawyers
ANNOYING popups that trick sites and porn sites use? Maybe I can sue their ass out of business.
only other patent that made me mad so much was Amazon's one-click
couldn't agree more. Some expansions are great, like Blizzards Brood War, it really adds a flavor to it. On the other hand....The Sims....Amish paradise there, and we are the cows. I thought the Sims expansion always added flavor, but enough is enough.
I doubt many will be excited after paying 20+ bucks for an expansion pack that allows you to buy different shower stalls.
But hey, why give a patch out for free if you can charge 20-40 bucks for it?
which pricing model beats free?
I don't know if you have seen some news report on college kids downloading (they tend to pick those who are quite ignorant but think they are "l33t", chances are, the colleges busted their ass right after the interview aired). Most of them claim that it's free and they are poor, and nothing is stolen because nothing physical is being stolen (then wtf are they watching or listening to?). Now this free shit has become "yo cutie, check out my 'connections'". It's now a way to get girls into your room.
I agree to ADAPT OR PERISH. The Internet is a place where distance is almost eliminated, and there's absolutely more than enough opportunities out there for companies to gain their exposure to. RIAA/MPAA could've seriously profitted from the Internet, with a few "adjustments" to the current usage. Now it's too late. Kazaa exposed itself to the massive less-savvy user group and it will be difficult to turn or even stop them, without striking some dominating fear upon them.
Ebay is a gathering place where people can come on and sell their stuff. In a sense, Ebay is nothing more than a msg board almost. However, over the past years, people used Ebay as their median of business. That serves as a new opportunity for many (as well as TAXES for uncle Sam)
True, I agree that Ebay should have quite a bit of protection for the sellers as well as buyers (remember the little kid who bid for millions worth antique and thought it was a game?). Protection DOES NOT EQUAL to babysitting. There's no easy way to prevent 5 year olds giving negative feedback or bidding on crap they don't want, just for kicks. The drawback is that ebay do not have the necessary information to take drastic actions, they are, again, a median. I have seen and thought about ways to avoid that, but since I don't work for them, nor I use their services, oh well =P
That lawyer better start selling his logic on ebay soon. If he can put a monetary value on his reputation in a MSG board, then those who didn't leave him positive should be in the case. His reputation cannot be quantified, Ebay has risks, and I am sure he AGREED before entering. If he wins, thousands of ebay sellers will follow. He probably should sue himself too, since I doubt anyone will EVER bid on his sales for the fear of being sued.
He might win, actually. Even some extreme cases have their doubts....(McDonald Case - I am clumsy so I will sue your ass to be responsible).
"I see dumb people"
-The Common Sense
A Taiwan young man, 20 something, allegedly died from gaming in a PC cafe after a continuous session of 27 hours.
A Korean young man, 20 something, allegedly died from gaming in a PC cafe after a whooping non-stop 60+ hours (around 3 days)
A Hong Kong teen, allegedly commited suicide by jumping off a building after he lost his highly priced artifact from an attack by an anonymous player (or hacker, translation was rough here). He was playing at a PC cafe at the time.
News source from a Hong Kong technology newspaper weekly.
Yes, spread that shit over here, please........
15 seconds? That seems like an awfully long time to recognize subject headers like: bigger your little buddy, or second chance schooling, get better chances.
Or perhaps that long to "read" through the samples from "young teens needing your company"
Can there be any severe punishment for spammers like this? Hang? Shot? Hang by their balls? Dipped in honey in a room with fire ants, listen to britney spears / Macy Gray songs non-stop...
alright, just asking.....
Sony is truely lacking in customer support department, and a few other things. I bought a DV camera from them under heavy research. If it breaks, you are screwed.
Also I wanted to get a PS2 (damn you square, PS only), looked at the warranty on my friend's PS2. There's a noticable clause it there that kind of states if you leave a CD in the console, warranty is void.......leaves me asking......WTF?
She is leaving at the end of the year. At the danger of being hated for repeating myself: THere is a danger here knowing that they planned on attacking home end users this year, wouldn't it be possible that something is planned that a step down would result from the action anyways?
Besides.......
Would you be surprised when you find out your computer was hacked and a list of files were anonymously sent to *ahem*
hmmm, and they had plans with going after individual consumers on the Internet and stuff. Are they planning to go so far that they are going to need her to step down?
Is this a heads up that something extremely controversal is about to happen?
yes, instead of feeling a large polo stick roughly charging in, the DRM will be implemented silently and all your information will be obtained without notice.
bend over, but it will only be a slight prick
True true. Let's say Quake was violent, was it more violent than, let's say the movie resident evil? Or We Were Soldiers? Yet, I saw little kids, like 8, in those movie theaters watching and eating popcorn (some schemes turned my stomach upside down, I don't know how they still eat). The only difference is, Quake is violence from the player's part, where he/she has the option to CREATE violence (You could theoratically be morally against killing and running around in a deathmatch not firing a single shot.........but then that would be ludicrous). Movies and News impose it to reality, I guess.
I am no parent myself, but I respect that you are a player and have the responsibility to lock them away from your kids. What is restricted is often more interesting to a child than something common. My point is, if a gamer cannot be responsible with their kids, then dont be a parent! Having kids is a right, yes, but in that case, it's the kids' right to have responsible parents.
A child is like a blank piece of paper, parents have the responbility to make it the right color. Imagine irresponsibility as leaving the paper in the middle of a city. What happens to it?
so you can have quality time with the reality TV shows
maybe Bill Gates will take over
uh oh, all future CDs require an online activation code, and crashes your CD player, which must be 90x speed in order to hear the songs at "normal tone"
The way I see it, there's no point. If you have a product that you can't copy due to DRM, wouldn't that defeats the purpose of getting CDR/DVDR?
Like the Sun Tzu Art of War laws, know thy self, know thy enemy, victory is possible. Thinking like these people, having a increased price of CDR/DVDR will strike a moral blow to their targeted audience, with their previous establishments. The DRM will protect their future investments.
Now seeing it that way, it is a legitimate approach, BUT, highly immoral and unethical. Ultimately, the idea, rather they admit or not (doesn't matter, it IS this way), is play it their rules or not play at all. Leaving us to believe we as consumers don't have rights, just options, offered by them. Alternatively, there are none. So is either their way or.....no way. In general, a fan just takes what's given. Adding that to their above and beyond of power (which they asserted through means not wise to mention). They claim to have justice, yes, but I do believe justice is not black and white, and it is stretchable
I agree actually.
People in general like to dismiss anything suspicious, unfortunately. Just like the P3s with the Unique IDs.
The idea is bad, knowing that whatever you do can be tracked. Hell, if everyone were goody two shoes, never broke a law (assuming stupid ones like no icecream in your pocket), there's no need for such devices. From another perspective though, there's also no HARM in such devices. Anything has two sides. Even the P3 unique IDs. True you information is being tracked possibly, but what if it's used for good: tracking the bastard who stole your computer? Banking checks your computer ID? Company networks will only allow those with certified IDs to access interal information?
However, as these information can be used both ways. Some people use these systems for assumed guilt on us consumers, to retaliate, we assume guilt on them for implementing it.
I saw from most threads that people do admit that most people or people they know use Blank CDs for "less-than-legal-reasons". In reality, what's the use in trying to stop them from doing this levy?
What can be the arguement? I for one do not like the idea and will go against it all the way. But I must ask: out of what context? What support do I have?
I understand that this is hard on people with legitimate reasons for CDRs (promotional CDs, research projects, etc), but question is, what % is that of the total CD consumption? I do make audio CDs, but from existing CDs I bought (to avoid damage during my high rate of traveling). I don't think that would make a reasonable arguement (if it breaks, buy another one. The record companies do make more of a profit that way....)
Some said that this is infringing our rights. Rights to do what?
Innocent until proven guilty, probably won't work anymore, especially when the battle of the lawyers is how much dough you have in reserve. Guilty, until proven more guilty, seems to be the trend
the strangest thing I found was on some study aboard guy's computer. It was running some Chinese/Japanese/Thai version of windows or something. ALL folders and files were in non-English. Upon clicking what I thought was his virus scanner, a cartoon girl popped up and asked for my 'manly' stick.
I just told him to reinstall English windows or find a translator, cuz basically anything I clicked on resulted in something I rather not see. (I never knew Aladdin did pr0n)
Wow, amazing
Same thing happened to me, too. I was installing Windows 95 A version on my oldie 486 DX50 a long time ago, and upon completion, it just clinked and destroyed itself.
I was a kid so I told my dad that windows 95 is electronic version of a paper shredder
Certain people have an uncanny way of "changing" things with wheels. Imagine a rice rocket segway:
1. plenty of stickers to make it go faster
2. +2" chrome/alloy wheels
3. bigger exhaust pipe or heatsink, with an amplifier attached
4. larger battery packs
5. lower the chassis
6. various tricks and stickers to enhance total output power by 0.005% - 10%
7. Add turbo turbines
8. Add a double decker fender
9. various stablizers opt for drag race
could be dangerous when these people drag race during day or midnight going at 14mph!!!!!! You can even think about the elderly involved in such events!!! I understand why these cali cities want to ban these.
If they can do all that to a build-yourself KIA or go-cart Echo, why not these?
The presiding judge subjected the figures to "comprehensive examinations" which included "the need to remove the clothes of the figure."
Maybe the judge needed some quality time with the xmen.
Jokes aside, if I have an uncanny power of not caring, can I be exempt from possible taxes, like international airport tax?
In any other industry this would be called profiteering or unfair trading. However, when you're one of the largest industries on the face of the planet and have some very slick and highly paid lobyists then you can get away with murder right?
Probably, as long as you have enough money to hire a squirrel ninja/shinobi to plant a CDR media into the victims hands. If anybody dares to ask, say the victim is a pirate and you were protecting your property?
function big_corp($money, $connection){
$target = to_blame($money);
if(!$target) $target = to_set_example($money);
$weap = get_lawyers();
do{
$result =sue($money, $connection, $target, $weap);
if ($result == "undesirable")
$target = appeal($money, $target, $connection);
}while ($money != 0 && $target = "bendover");
}
call when needed