I'm not sure I *want* guns, ever. I mean, let's just look at America where everyone is armed and shootings are way above what they are in the UK!
If I was to have a gun, so would the thieves, the cops and the risk of being shot and killed would replace the risk of being beaten up on a night out. Great.
Whilst I agree that seems like a stupid mistake to make. Why not just put "Linux with Firefox 1.0.4" as that would surely have all the right software?
But I think this shows one of the underlying problems of why it's hard to release anything to the Linux community. I use Linux (both Ubuntu and SuSE) which again have completely different version numbers ubuntu's 5.04 is much better than SuSE's v5 (if they had one!) So how are people supposed to release system requirements? Should they list each distro and it's version numbers, should they list each dependency and it's version number? Do many people actually know what version of glibc they have without looking? Or in fact which kernel? I don't. I think until people can release software that just works for Linux. i.e. you can get it from download.com or from the authors page and you just run an installer and it's all setup icons and all.
Whilst I like repos the problem is is that you have to wait for people to build a package for your distro and upload it before you can install it. This can be weeks later than when the actual product was released and sometimes they contain bugfixes that we want now. For example Kopete's MSN connectivity problems.
Before you say, well compile it and it'll be for your machine. I hate compiling, it's complicated and seems a awkard way of doing something. And many people are like that, especially my girlfriend who uses SuSE, she just wants to click in Yast and have the program ready.
Personally for me it's due to wanting to actually have a decent Bittorrent client. They are either Windows only, written in Java and slow as hell or lacking in any basic options such as throttling down/upload speeds. Oh, yeh or an absolute pain to use.
So I'm gonna try the Opera one just to see whether it's as good as Opera stuff usually is.
But then again I don't see Opera going chapter 11 on us so they can't be doing all that bad. They seem to be ticking along nicely and I don't think they are aiming for world dominance so I don't see why they have to change to suit you?
At the end of the day, they have a faithful following from providing something that people are prepared to pay for so they must be doing something right. And then they also have a lot of commercial users embedding them and paying license fees etc.
Companies wont develop Linux native apps if there isn't the market for them... i.e. Money.
The problem with the open source movement is that people are used to (and I include myself in this) using software for free. Most people will either use a free alternative or just copy it, crack it etc.
There just wouldn't be the market. Until there is we're not going to see Linux native apps of big software appear.
The best player under Windows is still Winamp. It will be downloadable from winamp.com for a good time yet and probably from other sources until there is a good reason why it wont work anymore.
There is no reason to change unless something is wrong with it!
I'd say the complete opposite. WinAmp has (IMHO - obviously) *the* best UI of any music player around. It has the playlist, the buttons, a scrolly text bit to show the song and that was it. Everything else was hidden away. It felt like a little side app, which is how I like my media players, something in the background, not a full blown full screen app. And it hid away neatly.
And the best thing? It had keyboard shortcuts. For someone that rarely uses the mouse that's what got it for me.
I've no need for a successor. Winamp 2.9 or 5 is fine for me.
The one's on Arriva Leicester buses are real and have deterred the weekly rituals of smashing the back windows without the driver noticing and spraying up all the seats etc.
Buses are a lot nicer to travel on because of that.
All the main council estates in Leicester have quite a lot of CCTV cameras located on large thick poles which are pretty vandal proof.
Obviously this hasn't been rolled out over the country yet.
These cameras, along with more bobbies and increased street lighting have made the whole areas a lot nicer for the people living in them and cutting down on crimes like muggings in alleys and that sort of stuff.
Oh yeh, because thousands of people are going to be interested in the fact that on monday I bought three pints of milk, yet I bought another six pints the day after.
Do you really believe that people will sit there watching your every move?
Should we ban shopkeepers too? They get to know your habbits if you visit their shop everyday, or what about other people walking in the street? They walk by you every day, or those that you ride with on the tube.
Ask yourself this, would YOU care about somebody going to the grocery store?
The sensors have nothing to do with the red lights.
They usually only work during the night (I drive to work at 4AM and will find that even though I go through approximately 20 sets of lights on my way, all of them (apart from 2 which have no sensors) will change to green as I approach, this is not through flashing my lights. It's just based on the fact that no cars are on the road so if a car approaches it will switch the lights to green for that car. After all, what is the point of him/her sitting there for 30 seconds for the traffic lights to change?
Ambulances, police and fire vehicles are let through on priority by people that actually change the traffic light sequence. Remotely at the little traffic light changing office (not it's real name, obviously)
For example if it's rush hour and an ambulance really needs to get along a road. They will radio back and an operator will work out a way to clear the traffic in front of it along it's route as quick as possible, this can be through changing the sequence of the lights for it's route or deploying police patrols to escort it.
Actually, Firebird has most of the features Navigator has, *if* you install a metric tonne of Extensions.
Personally, I think that's how it should stay. Keep the browser lean and let people modify it to install whichever extensions they want. I have only one extension and that's not something that's an absolute must. I *personally* don't want it to end up as bloated as Navigator was/is.
Yes, but even with just the browser it starts up noticeably slower than IE, Opera and Phoenix. It also feels less responsive and feels generally sluggish.
Plus, I do want the mail/news application, I just don't want it all bundled into one binary.:/
...but I *really* don't think I'll need a net enabled fridge. It's not that hard to go downstairs and check what I need. Or even check when I get home. Or even ring my girlfriend and ask her.
Why are we trying to get everything on the 'net. A lightswitch. Wow I could switch that on from my desk at work.
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I'm not sure I *want* guns, ever. I mean, let's just look at America where everyone is armed and shootings are way above what they are in the UK! If I was to have a gun, so would the thieves, the cops and the risk of being shot and killed would replace the risk of being beaten up on a night out. Great.
It doesn't say that it's 1.0.6 *now* It states that the rumours from before said that people had 1.0.6 on Dell machines.
Whilst I agree that seems like a stupid mistake to make. Why not just put "Linux with Firefox 1.0.4" as that would surely have all the right software? But I think this shows one of the underlying problems of why it's hard to release anything to the Linux community. I use Linux (both Ubuntu and SuSE) which again have completely different version numbers ubuntu's 5.04 is much better than SuSE's v5 (if they had one!) So how are people supposed to release system requirements? Should they list each distro and it's version numbers, should they list each dependency and it's version number? Do many people actually know what version of glibc they have without looking? Or in fact which kernel? I don't. I think until people can release software that just works for Linux. i.e. you can get it from download.com or from the authors page and you just run an installer and it's all setup icons and all. Whilst I like repos the problem is is that you have to wait for people to build a package for your distro and upload it before you can install it. This can be weeks later than when the actual product was released and sometimes they contain bugfixes that we want now. For example Kopete's MSN connectivity problems. Before you say, well compile it and it'll be for your machine. I hate compiling, it's complicated and seems a awkard way of doing something. And many people are like that, especially my girlfriend who uses SuSE, she just wants to click in Yast and have the program ready.
Personally for me it's due to wanting to actually have a decent Bittorrent client. They are either Windows only, written in Java and slow as hell or lacking in any basic options such as throttling down/upload speeds. Oh, yeh or an absolute pain to use. So I'm gonna try the Opera one just to see whether it's as good as Opera stuff usually is.
Glad I don't work there.
But then again I don't see Opera going chapter 11 on us so they can't be doing all that bad. They seem to be ticking along nicely and I don't think they are aiming for world dominance so I don't see why they have to change to suit you?
At the end of the day, they have a faithful following from providing something that people are prepared to pay for so they must be doing something right. And then they also have a lot of commercial users embedding them and paying license fees etc.
Companies wont develop Linux native apps if there isn't the market for them... i.e. Money.
The problem with the open source movement is that people are used to (and I include myself in this) using software for free. Most people will either use a free alternative or just copy it, crack it etc.
There just wouldn't be the market. Until there is we're not going to see Linux native apps of big software appear.
IMHO.
I do love how America really, honestly believes they won the second World War.
*laughs*
Why an alternative?
The best player under Windows is still Winamp. It will be downloadable from winamp.com for a good time yet and probably from other sources until there is a good reason why it wont work anymore.
There is no reason to change unless something is wrong with it!
I think you mean version 3 was the dog ugly, slow and bloat version?
Versions 2 and 5 are the best versions ever released.
Version 2 if you have an old computer or just want pure music playing.
Version 5 if you want the Winamp library and new skin support.
I'd say the complete opposite. WinAmp has (IMHO - obviously) *the* best UI of any music player around. It has the playlist, the buttons, a scrolly text bit to show the song and that was it. Everything else was hidden away. It felt like a little side app, which is how I like my media players, something in the background, not a full blown full screen app. And it hid away neatly.
And the best thing? It had keyboard shortcuts. For someone that rarely uses the mouse that's what got it for me.
I've no need for a successor. Winamp 2.9 or 5 is fine for me.
The one's on Arriva Leicester buses are real and have deterred the weekly rituals of smashing the back windows without the driver noticing and spraying up all the seats etc. Buses are a lot nicer to travel on because of that.
All the main council estates in Leicester have quite a lot of CCTV cameras located on large thick poles which are pretty vandal proof. Obviously this hasn't been rolled out over the country yet. These cameras, along with more bobbies and increased street lighting have made the whole areas a lot nicer for the people living in them and cutting down on crimes like muggings in alleys and that sort of stuff.
Oh yeh, because thousands of people are going to be interested in the fact that on monday I bought three pints of milk, yet I bought another six pints the day after.
Do you really believe that people will sit there watching your every move?
Should we ban shopkeepers too? They get to know your habbits if you visit their shop everyday, or what about other people walking in the street? They walk by you every day, or those that you ride with on the tube.
Ask yourself this, would YOU care about somebody going to the grocery store?
The sensors have nothing to do with the red lights. They usually only work during the night (I drive to work at 4AM and will find that even though I go through approximately 20 sets of lights on my way, all of them (apart from 2 which have no sensors) will change to green as I approach, this is not through flashing my lights. It's just based on the fact that no cars are on the road so if a car approaches it will switch the lights to green for that car. After all, what is the point of him/her sitting there for 30 seconds for the traffic lights to change? Ambulances, police and fire vehicles are let through on priority by people that actually change the traffic light sequence. Remotely at the little traffic light changing office (not it's real name, obviously) For example if it's rush hour and an ambulance really needs to get along a road. They will radio back and an operator will work out a way to clear the traffic in front of it along it's route as quick as possible, this can be through changing the sequence of the lights for it's route or deploying police patrols to escort it.
Actually, Firebird has most of the features Navigator has, *if* you
install a metric tonne of Extensions.
Personally, I think that's how it should stay. Keep the browser lean and let people modify it to install whichever extensions they want. I have only one extension and that's not something that's an absolute must. I *personally* don't want it to end up as bloated as Navigator was/is.
America is sexier than England? Is that official? I'll have to tell that to the girlfriend, she'll be upset...
Alan Davies?
Sounds like Mozilla...
:p
"Fixed in the next build"
Yes, but even with just the browser it starts up noticeably slower than IE, Opera and Phoenix. It also feels less responsive and feels generally sluggish. Plus, I do want the mail/news application, I just don't want it all bundled into one binary. :/
They aren't re-writing anything.
They are still using Gecko, XUL etc. etc.
Phoenix is a browser I use pretty much all day and have no problems with it. Sure, it needs a bit of polish, but so did Moz.
I can't stand how long Moz takes to load, yet I like Moz Mail.
It's all about choice and they're giving it us, don't complain.
That's because the BBC does actually rock muchly for news :)
...but I *really* don't think I'll need a net enabled fridge. It's not that hard to go downstairs and check what I need. Or even check when I get home. Or even ring my girlfriend and ask her.
Why are we trying to get everything on the 'net. A lightswitch. Wow I could switch that on from my desk at work.
Sorry, I just find it silly.
Surely isn't it the other way around? ;)
will blow OC192 out of the water
;)
Saddam's working on something along them lines