While Aurangzeb definitely did conquer most of present India-Pak briefly, he never really had any control over it. He was constantly fighting against Generals/Princes in Afghan, Punjab, Bijapur, Golkonda, Maratha, North-East etc. This 'conquest' of not-nearly-entire India never lasted even a few decades(I dont remember the exact time).
And after that brief period, India went back to a hundred kingdoms ruled by hundred princes. This is no exaggeration. In 1947, there were @500 princely states. Some no bigger than a town of 50,000. The country of India could only be created because most of these princely states had no armies, an unitended good turn done by the British. Except a few like Hyderabad, which had to be invaded.
Thus, to say that India was ever an unified nation is a fallacy. Its like saying Alexanders or Genghis Khans kingdoms were unified. And let me ask you something: if you went back to 1650 AD and asked a peasant... say in Nagpur which 'country' he belonged in, he would probably have no answer. Ask him who is his lord and chances are he would give his fuedal lords name, not the current emperor. Same goes any other town in India.
Now think about this: even today, with 50% literacy you will find MILLIONS of Indians who do not know the name of their country. Hell, I have literate relatives who dont know that! My point is that with extreme poverty and illetracy these silly things really dont matter.
I agree that Kashmir would be a bigger mess if India gave it up.
I also think they're stretching it a bit right now with their current "intel comparable" numbering scheme.
Umm.. its not "Intel comparable", but compared to a Athlon Thunderbird core. ie "We call it 2500+ because if the Thundebird ran at 2500MHz, this is how it would perform".
But you're right.. it dosen't make sense... this does not correctly apply to 64bit cores. For example, the Athlon XP3200 is consistently behind the A64 3200. The Sempron rating is even more confusing...
Atheism is the most fashionable belief, but in the end it just rejects every concrete point of view without actually explaining anything. And thats infinitely better than wrong explanations.
While Intel is still a long way away from selling this chipset, the Nvidia nforce4 Pro is already available(although right now its expensive and rare).
Not sure if intels solution also offers a firewall. The firewall dosent work in Linux(yet?). Not sure if the offloading engine will work in Linux.
Also, in Kerala, fresh water is an issue.
Umm.. its an issue everywhere. Including Bombay. In my parents apartment building in bombay, the residents bribed the town officials to get 24hr water. The nearby slums suffer in silence (and thirst).
At the rate people are destroying water reserves and the enviroment, I predict a massive health care crisis in 25 years.
This I should mention includes inflated costs and bribes for bureaucrats.
You cannot compare corruption in the West to India.You have NO idea what corruption is until you see it in a country like India. As soon as you get off the airport, ask the taxi guy what does he do when a cop stops him. Start with him to learn about corruption there.
At least in the US, corrupt officials do not play with peoples' lives. In India, trains, bridges, airports, buildings, electricity, water, military equipment, hospitals, schools, relief to disaster victims, etc.. EVERYTHING is substandard. Lack of money is not the main cause of this... its the mind bogling amount of corruption involved.
If you know the right people, or have money, you can get away with murder, rape, genocide... ANYTHING you want.
Thats not to say they arent bothered about you at all! Long term control of Middle east oil has been on the US/UK/WEurope Govet agenda for the past several decades. This manipulation is what keeps developed countries' economies running.( Your high paying job is because of this economy.) And thats what pulls Saudi per capita income from 25K$ in 1980 to 5K$ in 2000... and all the while Saudi princes buy bigger jets and build bigger palaces.
Countries who toe the Western Line like Saudi, Kuwait can get away with tyranny.Just for starters, Saudi women cant drive, vote, get decent jobs.. thats half the total population.For all its oil, Saudi has intense poverty.. with great discrimination between Shias/Sunnis. How bout giving them some Freedom fries ?
Bush kept bitching about how Saddam did not disarm for 15 years after Gulf war 1, yet Kuwait took no stpes to get closer to democracy in that time. Dosent THAT matter at all?
Please stop bitching about high oil prices. You're still a LONG way from not affording it. Think about the fact that people in Developing countries,who earn 100$ a month(for example) pay SIMILAR prices in $ as the US/others for oil . For them, even the slightest increase means great difficulty. Difficulties brought upon by Western meddling in the Middle east.
I was going to mod this but decided to reply instead..
You're right, this is another case of the US targetting the symptom instead of the real problem.
What exactly is the point in spending money on flashy cop equipment with detectors, computers and what-have-you? As long as the reasons why certain neighbouroods produce criminals remain, nothing is going to change.
US has THE largest defence infrastructure. Not to mention the maximum money spent on policing and related activities.(Homeland "security")
What exacly is the point when the US has the largest amount of rapes, burglaries, assaults AND maximum number of prisoners in the world ? US ranks high in other crime aspects as well...(get your own sources)
6K UK is 500,000 Indian Rs a year and thats 42000Rs a month, = 500 UK a month.
While people do get paid that much in India (the 'elite' IIT and Top-B-school types and other veterans), the VAST majority in IT have a salary of 200-400$ (or 100-210 UK) a month. A friend in India gets 300$ take home for working 100hrs a week. He graduated and got a job a year ago.
The problem with your argument is..
Maids in India always live in slums..
My mom has had like 40 maids in my lifetime (24 yrs) and they have always come from slums.
Trust me, if you think you are doing these women any favour by hiring them to clean and cook you are sadly mistaken. Currently my mom in india pays her maid @20$ a month which is the very high end in India. In my undergrad years I paid my cleaning maid 5$ (FIVE) a month.
In many cases their husbands are deserters drunkards and general losers who make their life difficult by beating, taking their money etc.My undergrad tution was 300$ a year. Plus books plus other expense.HOW do her children get educated, get 'proper' upbringing with a 50$ a month (600$ a year) salary?
All maids my mom had were illiterate. I remember one maids daughter got married somewhere at the age of 9-12 (I dont remember, but she was pretty young).
My mom-dad have tried to educate the maids children by paying for their Govt school (if you can call it a school) or tutoring them. But most of them are not interested in educating their children...they dont understand it.
There are many such people in India who live totally fucked lives. Yes, and I call this exploitation. I have no solution for this, but I can tell you that its totally wrong to say its somehow any good for these women (and men) to slave like this.
In fact, since coming to the US, I've come to very much appreciate the fact that many well off people will do their own laundry and cleaning and cooking... even I've learnt to cook after coming here.
Another thing for comparision...In the US, my former landlords spring cleaning maid came in a new SUV. My landords an average US midde class fellow by the way.
it crashed to the desktop without an error every time I tried.
Crash to desktop bug was fixed for me by downloading the game files again.
Also, defragment your drive, and create a file autoexec.cfg in the directory where config.cfg and valve.rc reside.
In there put:
snd_mixahead "0.7"
sv_autosave "0"
sv_forcepreload "1"
cl_forcepreload "1"
cl_smooth "0"
cl_ragdoll_collide "1"
snd_async_fullyasync "1"
r_lod "-2"
Picked this from HL2 fallout forums. Experiment with snd_mixahead values. Thanks to that poster for improving my games performance somewhat. Take note this is also disabling autosave which I found to be a major source of stuttering problems.
Wtf?
Maybe you didnt notice, but most people are pissed with steam. And not just on/.
I'm pissed too. It took me hours to get it activated then it kept crashing for no reason. I downloaded the files again after which I could play, but now I want to stop running steam every time I want to play and there seems to be no way of doing that AFAIK.
Maybe I get cracked version for sanity.
Re:PC users should read this...
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I made my Linux box with Athlon 2500, 512MB, 120GB, Geforce5200, TT powersupply, 19' Monitor (Good one with 1600x1200@75Hz), CD-RW/DVD, Gigabit card for ~700$. (Details on request)
Thats like half the price of a 1.8Ghz Mac... (Probably with no monitor)
I choose the right parts, I know how to make a good PC and its rock solid.
Wow! I just bought a computer that does what I want at half the price. Am I ranting and pissing ?
Furthermore by paying "more" I find I'm supporting a company and a group of people that are doing an excellent job.
There are others too who do an excellent job.
I'm piss poor, but I've donated to open source projects many times. If I win a $1500 Mac, I'd probably sell it, again buy a $700 PC and donate/splurge the rest. Not because I hate Macs! I'd love to have a Mac.(just like I'd love to have all other kinds of computers)
A new kernel + latest KDE takes nothing but a few hrs to install. How much is a MacOs upgrade + tons of other s/w that you have to buy ?
Even if I had the money, I'd find it really difficult to pay a premium for the Mac culture. I'll buy a Mac only if theres some mind blowing piece of software that I must have or need and if it only exists for the Mac.
Half the price is too much of a difference to ignore.
This has to be the most useless study ever conducted.
Most of the time it's so hot in India it drains you so much you simply cannot work to full capacity (esp in an IT job) without an AC. I know the difference an air conditioner made for me.
Maybe instead of spending money on this study this guy should have tried to get a job in New Delhi or attend University in Pune, where I've given college tests in 40+ C (105 F). Or he could have gone to South US (Texas, Florida).
I also know the difference since coming to Pennsylvania. When the heatings not fully on and its 55F in the house, you can bundle up and tap away at your keyboard... Freezing temperatures simply do not sap your strength like the heat. You can bundle up and spend hours outside in snowy weather but you won't feel tired when you get home. Not so when its 35+ outside.
Every try cycling/running in cold weather ?
I've used my bike in 10F and let me tell you its a lot more comfortable than cycling in 100F.
Humans need comfortable temperatures to do their best.(duh!) But I would prefer it to be cold outside and use heating indoors than the other way round. Atleast one can go outdoors...
There are some Canadians in my friends office in India. Their first few days are spent exclaiming "Ooooh ! its so nice and warm here!". This does not last for more than a few weeks...then they go back to jumping in a cooled car and hiding in a cooled office.
However when the SLI boards do come out, many gamers will buy them simply because of the perceived notion that they can pop in another gfx card when the need arises. (Unless the premium for SLI boards is too large)
Because you were making statements as if they were factual and applied to everyone. Duh
What did u expect? This is/.
The Greatest Game Ever,...
Did I say that ? No. I said its better than D3. Check barrels in FC. Much better. Barrels, Weapons, Water, Enemies, vehicles, Island environ, lights(some) make FC better than D3.
Btw How much did u really play D3 ? I went to up the communiaction level and am totally bored.
I can't as my 6800 GT is backordered. Same here...
Get the e-vga one if u stil can. Its got Farcry free with it!:-]
My point is that that is just your opinion, dumbass.
It should be obvious that its just my opinioin... this is an online discussion forum if you didnt notice. So you disagree.. but how does that make either one of us a pretentious dick or a dumass or a snob(where-did-you-get-that?)? Maybe you've been away from the real world too long. Get off the net and games for a while.(Read as: Don't bother replying)
mindless zombies will act like...mindless zombies. Perhaps...but zombies dont make up 100% of D3 enemy population... and they all rush at you. Thats all I'm fighting. Half-life 1 was better with this...
And some more bitching just for you ! For all the great hardware that Doom3 demands, I dont even get decent round barrels !
My point was Farcry is a better buy. Considering that I bought both games, it does give me a right to bitch about their value.
but there are probably many things that Doom 3 does better than Far Cry.
Definitely there must be some things that Doom3 does better. But it still ends up looking only a notch better than Farcry and that too not in all respects.
Mindless zombies that use tactics would be a bit of a contradiction, no? Maybe you didnt notice...but its a game. There are already enough contradictions. I'd pick better gameplay over crap realism anyday.
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While Aurangzeb definitely did conquer most of present India-Pak briefly, he never really had any control over it. He was constantly fighting against Generals/Princes in Afghan, Punjab, Bijapur, Golkonda, Maratha, North-East etc. This 'conquest' of not-nearly-entire India never lasted even a few decades(I dont remember the exact time).
And after that brief period, India went back to a hundred kingdoms ruled by hundred princes. This is no exaggeration. In 1947, there were @500 princely states. Some no bigger than a town of 50,000. The country of India could only be created because most of these princely states had no armies, an unitended good turn done by the British. Except a few like Hyderabad, which had to be invaded.
Thus, to say that India was ever an unified nation is a fallacy. Its like saying Alexanders or Genghis Khans kingdoms were unified. And let me ask you something: if you went back to 1650 AD and asked a peasant... say in Nagpur which 'country' he belonged in, he would probably have no answer. Ask him who is his lord and chances are he would give his fuedal lords name, not the current emperor. Same goes any other town in India.
Now think about this: even today, with 50% literacy you will find MILLIONS of Indians who do not know the name of their country. Hell, I have literate relatives who dont know that! My point is that with extreme poverty and illetracy these silly things really dont matter.
I agree that Kashmir would be a bigger mess if India gave it up.
I also think they're stretching it a bit right now with their current "intel comparable" numbering scheme.
.. its not "Intel comparable", but compared to a Athlon Thunderbird core. ie "We call it 2500+ because if the Thundebird ran at 2500MHz, this is how it would perform".
Umm
But you're right.. it dosen't make sense... this does not correctly apply to 64bit cores. For example, the Athlon XP3200 is consistently behind the A64 3200. The Sempron rating is even more confusing...
You mind telling people who cant do this experiment what happens ?
Atheism is the most fashionable belief, but in the end it just rejects every concrete point of view without actually explaining anything.
And thats infinitely better than wrong explanations.
Thats a pointless question.
Does it make sense if I asked you, "Would you be able to handle it if pigs sprouted wings on March 23rd '05 and dropped firebombs on NY city?"
While Intel is still a long way away from selling this chipset, the Nvidia nforce4 Pro is already available(although right now its expensive and rare).
Not sure if intels solution also offers a firewall. The firewall dosent work in Linux(yet?). Not sure if the offloading engine will work in Linux.
Also, in Kerala, fresh water is an issue.
Umm.. its an issue everywhere. Including Bombay. In my parents apartment building in bombay, the residents bribed the town officials to get 24hr water. The nearby slums suffer in silence (and thirst).
At the rate people are destroying water reserves and the enviroment, I predict a massive health care crisis in 25 years.
This I should mention includes inflated costs and bribes for bureaucrats.
You cannot compare corruption in the West to India.You have NO idea what corruption is until you see it in a country like India. As soon as you get off the airport, ask the taxi guy what does he do when a cop stops him. Start with him to learn about corruption there.
At least in the US, corrupt officials do not play with peoples' lives. In India, trains, bridges, airports, buildings, electricity, water, military equipment, hospitals, schools, relief to disaster victims, etc.. EVERYTHING is substandard. Lack of money is not the main cause of this... its the mind bogling amount of corruption involved.
If you know the right people, or have money, you can get away with murder, rape, genocide... ANYTHING you want.
As the AC says:They arent interested in doing you any favors.
,who earn 100$ a month(for example) pay SIMILAR prices in $ as the US/others for oil . For them, even the slightest increase means great difficulty. Difficulties brought upon by Western meddling in the Middle east.
Thats not to say they arent bothered about you at all! Long term control of Middle east oil has been on the US/UK/WEurope Govet agenda for the past several decades. This manipulation is what keeps developed countries' economies running.( Your high paying job is because of this economy.) And thats what pulls Saudi per capita income from 25K$ in 1980 to 5K$ in 2000... and all the while Saudi princes buy bigger jets and build bigger palaces.
Countries who toe the Western Line like Saudi, Kuwait can get away with tyranny.Just for starters, Saudi women cant drive, vote, get decent jobs.. thats half the total population.For all its oil, Saudi has intense poverty.. with great discrimination between Shias/Sunnis. How bout giving them some Freedom fries ?
Bush kept bitching about how Saddam did not disarm for 15 years after Gulf war 1, yet Kuwait took no stpes to get closer to democracy in that time. Dosent THAT matter at all?
Please stop bitching about high oil prices. You're still a LONG way from not affording it. Think about the fact that people in Developing countries
I was going to mod this but decided to reply instead..
You're right, this is another case of the US targetting the symptom instead of the real problem.
What exactly is the point in spending money on flashy cop equipment with detectors, computers and what-have-you? As long as the reasons why certain neighbouroods produce criminals remain, nothing is going to change.
US has THE largest defence infrastructure. Not to mention the maximum money spent on policing and related activities.(Homeland "security")
What exacly is the point when the US has the largest amount of rapes, burglaries, assaults AND maximum number of prisoners in the world ? US ranks high in other crime aspects as well...(get your own sources)
It could be a floating tool-tip of somesort...
6K UK is 500,000 Indian Rs a year and thats 42000Rs a month, = 500 UK a month.
While people do get paid that much in India (the 'elite' IIT and Top-B-school types and other veterans), the VAST majority in IT have a salary of 200-400$ (or 100-210 UK) a month. A friend in India gets 300$ take home for working 100hrs a week. He graduated and got a job a year ago.
The problem with your argument is..
Maids in India always live in slums..
My mom has had like 40 maids in my lifetime (24 yrs) and they have always come from slums.
Trust me, if you think you are doing these women any favour by hiring them to clean and cook you are sadly mistaken. Currently my mom in india pays her maid @20$ a month which is the very high end in India. In my undergrad years I paid my cleaning maid 5$ (FIVE) a month.
In many cases their husbands are deserters drunkards and general losers who make their life difficult by beating, taking their money etc.My undergrad tution was 300$ a year. Plus books plus other expense.HOW do her children get educated, get 'proper' upbringing with a 50$ a month (600$ a year) salary?
All maids my mom had were illiterate. I remember one maids daughter got married somewhere at the age of 9-12 (I dont remember, but she was pretty young).
My mom-dad have tried to educate the maids children by paying for their Govt school (if you can call it a school) or tutoring them. But most of them are not interested in educating their children...they dont understand it.
There are many such people in India who live totally fucked lives. Yes, and I call this exploitation. I have no solution for this, but I can tell you that its totally wrong to say its somehow any good for these women (and men) to slave like this.
In fact, since coming to the US, I've come to very much appreciate the fact that many well off people will do their own laundry and cleaning and cooking... even I've learnt to cook after coming here.
Another thing for comparision...In the US, my former landlords spring cleaning maid came in a new SUV. My landords an average US midde class fellow by the way.
it crashed to the desktop without an error every time I tried.
Crash to desktop bug was fixed for me by downloading the game files again.
Also, defragment your drive, and create a file autoexec.cfg in the directory where config.cfg and valve.rc reside.
In there put:
snd_mixahead "0.7"
sv_autosave "0"
sv_forcepreload "1"
cl_forcepreload "1"
cl_smooth "0"
cl_ragdoll_collide "1"
snd_async_fullyasync "1"
r_lod "-2"
Picked this from HL2 fallout forums.
Experiment with snd_mixahead values. Thanks to that poster for improving my games performance somewhat.
Take note this is also disabling autosave which I found to be a major source of stuttering problems.
Wtf? /.
Maybe you didnt notice, but most people are pissed with steam. And not just on
I'm pissed too. It took me hours to get it activated then it kept crashing for no reason. I downloaded the files again after which I could play, but now I want to stop running steam every time I want to play and there seems to be no way of doing that AFAIK.
Maybe I get cracked version for sanity.
I made my Linux box with Athlon 2500, 512MB, 120GB, Geforce5200, TT powersupply, 19' Monitor (Good one with 1600x1200@75Hz), CD-RW/DVD, Gigabit card for ~700$. (Details on request)
Thats like half the price of a 1.8Ghz Mac... (Probably with no monitor)
I choose the right parts, I know how to make a good PC and its rock solid.
Wow! I just bought a computer that does what I want at half the price. Am I ranting and pissing ?
Furthermore by paying "more" I find I'm supporting a company and a group of people that are doing an excellent job.
There are others too who do an excellent job. I'm piss poor, but I've donated to open source projects many times. If I win a $1500 Mac, I'd probably sell it, again buy a $700 PC and donate/splurge the rest. Not because I hate Macs! I'd love to have a Mac.(just like I'd love to have all other kinds of computers)
A new kernel + latest KDE takes nothing but a few hrs to install. How much is a MacOs upgrade + tons of other s/w that you have to buy ?
Even if I had the money, I'd find it really difficult to pay a premium for the Mac culture. I'll buy a Mac only if theres some mind blowing piece of software that I must have or need and if it only exists for the Mac.
Half the price is too much of a difference to ignore.
What I've always seen is that if you choose alternate page numbers....say you choose page 1, 3, 5, then you are garunteed to see new comments.
It started two decades ago...
The Tribune
America.edu
Google for more...
This has to be the most useless study ever conducted.
Most of the time it's so hot in India it drains you so much you simply cannot work to full capacity (esp in an IT job) without an AC.
I know the difference an air conditioner made for me.
Maybe instead of spending money on this study this guy should have tried to get a job in New Delhi or attend University in Pune, where I've given college tests in 40+ C (105 F). Or he could have gone to South US (Texas, Florida).
I also know the difference since coming to Pennsylvania. When the heatings not fully on and its 55F in the house, you can bundle up and tap away at your keyboard... Freezing temperatures simply do not sap your strength like the heat. You can bundle up and spend hours outside in snowy weather but you won't feel tired when you get home. Not so when its 35+ outside.
Every try cycling/running in cold weather ? I've used my bike in 10F and let me tell you its a lot more comfortable than cycling in 100F.
Humans need comfortable temperatures to do their best.(duh!) But I would prefer it to be cold outside and use heating indoors than the other way round. Atleast one can go outdoors...
There are some Canadians in my friends office in India. Their first few days are spent exclaiming "Ooooh ! its so nice and warm here!". This does not last for more than a few weeks...then they go back to jumping in a cooled car and hiding in a cooled office.
However when the SLI boards do come out, many gamers will buy them simply because of the perceived notion that they can pop in another gfx card when the need arises. (Unless the premium for SLI boards is too large)
Incorrect.
This explains what happened. If you thought US politics was bad, this should make you think again.
Interesting.. why havent the spyware/browser hijack people got to this yet ?
What did u expect? This is
The Greatest Game Ever,...
Did I say that ? No. I said its better than D3. Check barrels in FC. Much better. Barrels, Weapons, Water, Enemies, vehicles, Island environ, lights(some) make FC better than D3.
Btw How much did u really play D3 ? I went to up the communiaction level and am totally bored.
I can't as my 6800 GT is backordered.
Same here...
Get the e-vga one if u stil can. Its got Farcry free with it!
My point is that that is just your opinion, dumbass.
It should be obvious that its just my opinioin... this is an online discussion forum if you didnt notice. So you disagree.. but how does that make either one of us a pretentious dick or a dumass or a snob(where-did-you-get-that?)? Maybe you've been away from the real world too long. Get off the net and games for a while.(Read as: Don't bother replying)
mindless zombies will act like...mindless zombies.
Perhaps...but zombies dont make up 100% of D3 enemy population... and they all rush at you. Thats all I'm fighting. Half-life 1 was better with this...
And some more bitching just for you ! For all the great hardware that Doom3 demands, I dont even get decent round barrels !
Hand
My point was Farcry is a better buy. Considering that I bought both games, it does give me a right to bitch about their value.
but there are probably many things that Doom 3 does better than Far Cry. Definitely there must be some things that Doom3 does better. But it still ends up looking only a notch better than Farcry and that too not in all respects.
Mindless zombies that use tactics would be a bit of a contradiction, no?
Maybe you didnt notice...but its a game. There are already enough contradictions. I'd pick better gameplay over crap realism anyday.