Comprehension is the key. And you apparently didn't comprehend what I was saying. The post I replied to (great-grand parent to this post) wondered how much the music would cost as the phone was locked in to AT & T. My point was that Apple would have a difficult time locking it in - that it was pretty much impossible to offer it through iTunes.
Who's the dumbass?
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Apple are now selling DRM free tunes. You ask how much music downloads may cost, and although I don't know the answer, I'm not sure how they'd justify DRM'ing music on the iPhone while telling us music should be DRM free for the iPod.
The business model may switch you but........what about the legal model?
Standford is insisting that you remedy the problem. If you do not remedy the problem then you will be billed for access to the network. So lets say I get a third letter.....
In order to have network access - fairly essential for the purposes of completing school I decide to remedy the issue the best way I know how. I am, after all, not even aware that I am sharing files - must be some virus or something.......so I format my harddrive.
Now the RIAA, who are in the process of trying to sue me find out that I just formatted my hard drive. They advise the judge that I am trying to hide evidence after they subpeona (or whatever the legal term is) my hard drive and find a clean install. I advise the judge that Stanford, my school, advised that I would be fined up to $1000 if I didn't fix the problem. "Since I wasn't guilty of doing any file sharing on purpose, your Honor, I formatted to get rid of the stuff causing the problems I was being accused of causing.......
7 students going to Stanford are already "in the process" of being sued by the RIAA. While this will likely be a pain in butt for many students I wonder if this will help those 7 along?
And Canada has just been sent a bill.....to pay for the money spent investigating our "poppy" quarters after US agents thought they were being 'bugged' due to the red embedded on the coins.
They admitted guilt after being confronted by the police. But they didn't have a list of what they stole from me. I didn't have a list of what I owned either. I knew what I owned and when looking at the list of items they sold could see it was mine. That being said, according to the Pawn Shop - I could have looked at a list and just claimed it all as mine.
I had no proof that what they sold was all "my collection" and not someone elses. I suppose if I would have hired a lawyer I may have had them returned. In the criminal case the Crown (Canada's DA) paid for all that.
The levy on iPods was rescinded. And it was after CD's.....
But no matter. Many years ago my album and cassette collection was stolen. I tracked down the pawn shop they were sold to. Pawn Shops were I lived were required to hold items for 30 days before selling them - and to take ID. This led to the person who stole them being convicted.
I never got my albums or cassettes back though. The pawn shop claimed that I had no evidence that the ones they bought were mine and I, of course, not having individually labeled each item had no proof they were.
Yes. Someone should be able to flaunt our laws while outside America provided that what they are doing is not against the law there.
A gentleman was recently sentenced to 10 years in Thailand because he defaced a picture of the King of Thailand while in that country. If I, while in the US, create a website that defames the King of Thailand do you expect the US would send me there to do my time? What if my website where written in the Thai language with the blatant intent of being available not only to Thai citizens, but for Thai citizens?
Which is why I said "were" part of the problem. Not "are".
He is the one who said he never thought it was a quality product. Not me. By paying for it in the first place - and not one issue, but a subscription, he encouraged them to continue producing garbage.
If you were paying a subscription fee for something that was, as you say, "useless" then you were encouraging someone to produce something that was "useless". If people only paid (or in the case of magazines - were counted as part of the readership) for quality products they would encourage people to produce quality products.
Every time you buy something of no value you encourage someone to continue producing such crap.
I laughed at this. It is a bit insightful but it is certainly funny too.
On another note the OS X licence agreement states:
"2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. "
So you can't even legally run a normal OS X in virtualization on a PC unless Apple made it. This is a much harsher license if you ask me.
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I am still wondering where Jon Stewart, as per the article, " announced that he believes his bosses are making a mistake". Stewart says "But to me, the situation is that there's a ton to gain for both companies. Viacom, they put their content on YouTube, it gets exposure, people know about their programming... it's a win for everybody in this situation." Jon Stewart questions everything and uses sarcasm often.
This article could have as easily been titled "Jon Stewart comes out against music piracy". When his 'correspondent' mentions downloading music for free Stewart chimes in with "Um, you do have to pay for music".
Now don't get me wrong - I do think that Stewart was questioning Viacom's decision but this sure wasn't as "announcement." And I do recall watching Stewart a week or two back wondering why Viacom should pay to produce all this content while someone else makes money offering it online for free.
Exhibit 15 and 16 as offered by SCO are about Ibiblio supporting Groklaw. This isn't just about an Information week article - this is evidence SCO is offering to the court.
Sco is using this as evidence IN COURT that IBM is supporting Groklaw. Now we see that SCO is supported by Ibiblio (and therefore IBM, by SCO logic). This nullifies pretty much any benefit these exhibits would be for SCO.
When you are using unsupported drivers who's to say the driver didn't screw up the hardware.
You also can't test that component "for free" neither. Any hardware component will need to be removed from the machine and tested elsewhere. That is not normally how warranties work. If your video card doesn't work Dell may very well require you to test that under "restore disc" conditions......which is hard to do in Linux.
77 for OEM Vista and I wonder how much Dell saves on tech support for that computer now.
I wonder what this does to warranty coverage - hard to show that his video card isn't working when he's not using any supported drivers - for example. How much support will you get on a PC full of hardware that is no longer using any supported drivers?
77 for OEM Vista and probably the loss of most support that was available.
You've had three Honda's and they've only lasted for 75K, 120K and 90K and you still keep buying them? Those numbers translate to (approx) 45,000, 72,000 and 54,000 miles.
Honda gives a 100,000 km warranty on all there cars (60,000 miles).
You are either lying, exaggerating, or having yours cars survive for less then the warranty period and still buying the same brand again - which is pretty damn stupid if you ask me.
You can use any hardware as long as it's ours. You can use any software as long as it's ours. You can buy songs from us and play them on any MP3 player you want as long as it's ours.
This isn't a cable/DSL issue. This is a "we don't tell you how much but we cut you off anyhow" issue. In Canada we are generally advised our bandwidth limits.
Shaw (Cable) clearly advise how much bandwidth is permitted with each connection type - High Speed light - 10 GB/month data transfer - High Speed - 60 GB/month data transfer - High Speed Extreme - 100 GB/month data transfer - High Speed Nitro - 150 GB/month data transfer25 Mb download speed http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Internet /
Telus (DSL) offer you 10GB, 30GB, 60GB and 60GB for their 4 different speed packages. http://www.mytelus.com/internet/highspeed/prices.d o
Note that Cable offers higher speed and an equal or greater bandwidth in all cases.
While I hope this is true - it would look good on the MPAA
1) The screencaps show very little detail 2) "Dan Glickman Forum" from the screencaps turn up nothing in Google. 3) The line provided http://www.mpaa.org/blog_default.asp doesn't exist, isn't found in google OR the wayback machine and the home page back in September 06 looks very much like it does today - I don't find any obvious links to this.
If the MPAA accuses me of stealing files they had better produce some evidence and I damn well expect (not that they desterve it) that evidence has to be provided on this.
Of course my Google skills might not be up to snuff - but come on community, find the evidence while it still exists - if it did at all.
The last 1000 patients have nothing to do with her case.
That is like arguing that the car accident that I just caused was not my fault, as statistically speaking I drove the previous few 100,000 miles without an accident and was, statistically due.
There is an inherent risk every time I drive that something may go wrong but I am still responsible for any accident that happens IF I messed up.
I have no idea whether or not he messed up but clearly stats have little to do with that.
To quote from the article that you forgot to read "If things worked according to the old scheme, people with upgrade coupons would essentially get a "free" OS because they could install the Vista upgrade anywhere, and continue to use the version of Windows XP that came with their computer."
If you want to think I am "way the hell out there" then the author of the article is way the hell out there too. You expect that Microsoft will personally visit each persons home and ensure they return their XP disk as well as format the drive?
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Comprehension is the key. And you apparently didn't comprehend what I was saying. The post I replied to (great-grand parent to this post) wondered how much the music would cost as the phone was locked in to AT & T. My point was that Apple would have a difficult time locking it in - that it was pretty much impossible to offer it through iTunes.
Who's the dumbass?
Apple are now selling DRM free tunes. You ask how much music downloads may cost, and although I don't know the answer, I'm not sure how they'd justify DRM'ing music on the iPhone while telling us music should be DRM free for the iPod.
The business model may switch you but........what about the legal model?
Standford is insisting that you remedy the problem. If you do not remedy the problem then you will be billed for access to the network. So lets say I get a third letter.....
In order to have network access - fairly essential for the purposes of completing school I decide to remedy the issue the best way I know how. I am, after all, not even aware that I am sharing files - must be some virus or something.......so I format my harddrive.
Now the RIAA, who are in the process of trying to sue me find out that I just formatted my hard drive. They advise the judge that I am trying to hide evidence after they subpeona (or whatever the legal term is) my hard drive and find a clean install. I advise the judge that Stanford, my school, advised that I would be fined up to $1000 if I didn't fix the problem. "Since I wasn't guilty of doing any file sharing on purpose, your Honor, I formatted to get rid of the stuff causing the problems I was being accused of causing.......
7 students going to Stanford are already "in the process" of being sued by the RIAA. While this will likely be a pain in butt for many students I wonder if this will help those 7 along?
How could we be so careless.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM .20070507.wspycoins0507/BNStory/National/home/
They admitted guilt after being confronted by the police. But they didn't have a list of what they stole from me. I didn't have a list of what I owned either. I knew what I owned and when looking at the list of items they sold could see it was mine. That being said, according to the Pawn Shop - I could have looked at a list and just claimed it all as mine.
I had no proof that what they sold was all "my collection" and not someone elses. I suppose if I would have hired a lawyer I may have had them returned. In the criminal case the Crown (Canada's DA) paid for all that.
The levy on iPods was rescinded. And it was after CD's.....
But no matter. Many years ago my album and cassette collection was stolen. I tracked down the pawn shop they were sold to. Pawn Shops were I lived were required to hold items for 30 days before selling them - and to take ID. This led to the person who stole them being convicted.
I never got my albums or cassettes back though. The pawn shop claimed that I had no evidence that the ones they bought were mine and I, of course, not having individually labeled each item had no proof they were.
Yes. Someone should be able to flaunt our laws while outside America provided that what they are doing is not against the law there.
A gentleman was recently sentenced to 10 years in Thailand because he defaced a picture of the King of Thailand while in that country. If I, while in the US, create a website that defames the King of Thailand do you expect the US would send me there to do my time? What if my website where written in the Thai language with the blatant intent of being available not only to Thai citizens, but for Thai citizens?
But I've been using Lame for 3D modelling ever since I discovered that "LAME Ain't an Mp3 Encoder"
What would you do if your boss asked you to burn a cd full of mp3's he downloaded via peer to peer?
I'm really not trying to troll here........and I really do believe that:
1) Pirating software for home use is minor
2) Pirating software for a business (or for the purpose of making money FROM that software) is not so minor
But really, you have mentioned "most of the uses are for people using Excel like a database, or formatting of text in cells".
I suppose if you answer the initial question I posed by burning him the CD you must then decide the moral implications yourself.
Obviously, you need to protect your ass either way.
Which is why I said "were" part of the problem. Not "are".
He is the one who said he never thought it was a quality product. Not me. By paying for it in the first place - and not one issue, but a subscription, he encouraged them to continue producing garbage.
And you Sir, were part of the problem.
If you were paying a subscription fee for something that was, as you say, "useless" then you were encouraging someone to produce something that was "useless". If people only paid (or in the case of magazines - were counted as part of the readership) for quality products they would encourage people to produce quality products.
Every time you buy something of no value you encourage someone to continue producing such crap.
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I laughed at this. It is a bit insightful but it is certainly funny too.
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On another note the OS X licence agreement states:
"2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions.
A. This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. "
So you can't even legally run a normal OS X in virtualization on a PC unless Apple made it. This is a much harsher license if you ask me.
source - http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/MacOSX.h
The second video works fine though.
I am still wondering where Jon Stewart, as per the article, " announced that he believes his bosses are making a mistake". Stewart says "But to me, the situation is that there's a ton to gain for both companies. Viacom, they put their content on YouTube, it gets exposure, people know about their programming... it's a win for everybody in this situation." Jon Stewart questions everything and uses sarcasm often.
This article could have as easily been titled "Jon Stewart comes out against music piracy". When his 'correspondent' mentions downloading music for free Stewart chimes in with "Um, you do have to pay for music".
Now don't get me wrong - I do think that Stewart was questioning Viacom's decision but this sure wasn't as "announcement." And I do recall watching Stewart a week or two back wondering why Viacom should pay to produce all this content while someone else makes money offering it online for free.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=200704032 33141649
Exhibit 15 and 16 as offered by SCO are about Ibiblio supporting Groklaw. This isn't just about an Information week article - this is evidence SCO is offering to the court.
Sco is using this as evidence IN COURT that IBM is supporting Groklaw. Now we see that SCO is supported by Ibiblio (and therefore IBM, by SCO logic). This nullifies pretty much any benefit these exhibits would be for SCO.
In the original post I commented (see link above), the customer had 77 Euro's returned to him for not using Vista and returning the key.
Looks like I may have been right.
It was 77 euro's for returning his Vista key and voiding his technical support/warranty.
I was modded down for explaining this a few days ago.
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When you are using unsupported drivers who's to say the driver didn't screw up the hardware.
You also can't test that component "for free" neither. Any hardware component will need to be removed from the machine and tested elsewhere. That is not normally how warranties work. If your video card doesn't work Dell may very well require you to test that under "restore disc" conditions......which is hard to do in Linux.
77 for OEM Vista and I wonder how much Dell saves on tech support for that computer now.
I wonder what this does to warranty coverage - hard to show that his video card isn't working when he's not using any supported drivers - for example. How much support will you get on a PC full of hardware that is no longer using any supported drivers?
77 for OEM Vista and probably the loss of most support that was available.
You've had three Honda's and they've only lasted for 75K, 120K and 90K and you still keep buying them? Those numbers translate to (approx) 45,000, 72,000 and 54,000 miles.
Honda gives a 100,000 km warranty on all there cars (60,000 miles).
You are either lying, exaggerating, or having yours cars survive for less then the warranty period and still buying the same brand again - which is pretty damn stupid if you ask me.
Didn't Stephen Jobs say that too?
You can use any hardware as long as it's ours.
You can use any software as long as it's ours.
You can buy songs from us and play them on any MP3 player you want as long as it's ours.
This isn't a cable/DSL issue. This is a "we don't tell you how much but we cut you off anyhow" issue. In Canada we are generally advised our bandwidth limits.
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Shaw (Cable) clearly advise how much bandwidth is permitted with each connection type - High Speed light - 10 GB/month data transfer
- High Speed - 60 GB/month data transfer
- High Speed Extreme - 100 GB/month data transfer
- High Speed Nitro - 150 GB/month data transfer25 Mb download speed
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Interne
Telus (DSL) offer you 10GB, 30GB, 60GB and 60GB for their 4 different speed packages.
http://www.mytelus.com/internet/highspeed/prices.
Note that Cable offers higher speed and an equal or greater bandwidth in all cases.
Read my post above.
It's not in Google or the Wayback machine nor does google find the information post on screen caps - ie the title of the blog.
This at least does make sense. It does not exonerate the RIAA. But it does seem to make sense.
While I hope this is true - it would look good on the MPAA
1) The screencaps show very little detail
2) "Dan Glickman Forum" from the screencaps turn up nothing in Google.
3) The line provided http://www.mpaa.org/blog_default.asp doesn't exist, isn't found in google OR the wayback machine and the home page back in September 06 looks very much like it does today - I don't find any obvious links to this.
If the MPAA accuses me of stealing files they had better produce some evidence and I damn well expect (not that they desterve it) that evidence has to be provided on this.
Of course my Google skills might not be up to snuff - but come on community, find the evidence while it still exists - if it did at all.
The last 1000 patients have nothing to do with her case.
That is like arguing that the car accident that I just caused was not my fault, as statistically speaking I drove the previous few 100,000 miles without an accident and was, statistically due.
There is an inherent risk every time I drive that something may go wrong but I am still responsible for any accident that happens IF I messed up.
I have no idea whether or not he messed up but clearly stats have little to do with that.
To quote from the article that you forgot to read "If things worked according to the old scheme, people with upgrade coupons would essentially get a "free" OS because they could install the Vista upgrade anywhere, and continue to use the version of Windows XP that came with their computer."
If you want to think I am "way the hell out there" then the author of the article is way the hell out there too. You expect that Microsoft will personally visit each persons home and ensure they return their XP disk as well as format the drive?