I dropped an old mobile phone in a toilet, and it lived, a Sony Ericson T68i! I had been to the pub and had had a skin-full, was taking a piss at home and decided to have a look at my phone with my other hand, to see the time. Well, I dropped it mid-flow. Even though I was drunk I knew I had 2 choices: grab the phone ASAP, get it dry and it might work, or fuck it off cos its likely died and because its sitting in a toilet full of piss (hell, might aswell flush it). Being drunk I stuck my hand straight in the bog and grabbed it, rinsed the phone under running cold water whilst taking the cover off and removing the battery, wiped off as much moisture as possible and sat all the bits on top of a radiator for a week or so in a sock.
When I tried the phone after drying it out, it miraculously worked! And better than before it went for its swim - previously some of the buttons were rather unresponsive, but afterwards they worked like new (for about a month) - I guess the "solvent" it was exposed to shifted the fluff and dirt from behind the buttons! And it tended to have better reception after the dip too!
I didn't think of trying to shift any moisture with IPA, not that there was any in the house, but I should think IPA and warm air would help to remove any remaining moisture in electronics quite effectively. The point of my (rather gross) anecdote is that if you dry electronics properly, they do still sometimes work after getting wet!
Goddamn you're right! Awesome, thanks. Any idea when they added it? I've been using the new discussion system since the day they offered the option, and this is the first time I've seen it!
Yeah, the quote button must have appeared the last few days. Shame it's clear already that very few people who use the quoting will bother to edit the quote so that its in context, without huge swathes of quoted text. It'll be like how usenet was 10 years ago.... (Then MS came along and decided that quoting the wrong way round was best!)
Have a look at Las Vegas. I think that's one of the places with the highest res images currently. People are visible, to the level of detail that their shadow is visible "with legs", as it were.
No, the cat is behaving normally. You bought snake oil;)
Of course it's possible the cat is having a snooze somewhere warm, like a server or comms room (this is/. after all) or in the sunshine, then moving around in the house and its fur may be holding a lot of heat - enough to trigger the system?
Oh and get ready to see your music on p2p networks in 3... 2... 1...
That's free publicity, so don't complain.;) Make sure your MP3s are tagged well - ie correct and consistent track and band details, spelling, capitalisation etc.. Make your MP3s better than the shit on P2P, so research LAME and it's cunning settings. Embed the album or single artwork at a not-huge res within the MP3s (the res that will look best on an iPod), and put the URL for the band and more downloads in the ID3 comment field. That way, if some random joe finds the track on P2P at least they may be lead to a source where they may pay for more.
I still buy CDs partially for the physical album art, and I really love what some bands do with their sleeve's. When a visitor buys an MP3 or album of, why not offer nice hi-res copies of the album art for download too? It should be possible to have PDFs produced too by the site for download so that the user can even print their own CD album art and burn a physical copy (do offer PDF as an extra - I'd personally want a decent JPG or PNG).
And offer MD5 or SHA1 checksums of the MP3s too at download time, to keep the paranoid geeks happy. And make sure your servers are happy with clients using download managers. I don't know how widely used the likes of Getright are anymore, but back int' day, I hated it when an HTTP server wouldn't offer resuming, which was pretty essential on dial-up.
...Further contact from that customer would go directly to our Legal department.
Sounds fair to me... If I ring up a company and ask to speak to the lawyers, not matter what name I use for them I do expect to be put through. I like the way your former employer clearly then set a "default" department for the caller, and so didn't jerk the customer around every time they rang in the future.
I wonder if the advert viewing statistics will have a bearing on future map design/layout? How about spawn points in "safe" locations (just away from the action), and the user then has to pass ads to get back to the action. I bet this will come if this spyware stays (or is accepted by enough people).
Wow, now that was a first class game. I remember the game's manual being right: use the mouse (and what a mouse the Amiga had, the big wedge of cheese). I couldn't get Zeewolf to work in an emulator, WinUAE, when I tried in the past...:(
Ahh, but if stolen mobiles in the UK couldn't work, then there'd be a lot less mobiles available amongst the population. Fewer mobile phones means fewer phone calls made, and as the operators charge by time on the phone, working stolen phones=profits for the operators. I should think that is one of the reasons why an IMEI dbase is not more efficient.
As for returning guarentee cards, no thanks. The phone operators can easily determine your usual phone's IMEI number anyway, and they also have that info recorded anyway: I once entered my SIM's PIN wrong 3 times and locked it out. To undo this, I had to key in the IMEI number. To get this, I phoned my operator (from a friend's phone), gave them my phone number (and maybe some more info, or confirmed info) and they gave me the IMEI number. All this was done in a pub.
OK, so it follows that the fewer places my bank details are, the less likely a direct debit could be set up to hoover my account. So by not using Paypal, by not even having an account (anymore), I cannot be phished, nor can PP be cracked (tech or social) and my details getting out.
Though my bank details may be visible to other ebay users I buy from, and by extension their accounts could be hacked and my details obtained by a crook, but this is pretty unlikely. But by the sounds of it the DD scheme is very protected and thats the only real "attack vector" if you have my sort code, name and a/c number.
But I found a file on my laptop earlier that I used as a notebook whilst I was constructing my rant to put in the box when closing the Paypal account I had (in error...). I feel I need to share this with the world, and you can give Paypal this amount of abuse and they don't do anything!:) This chunk is over 2000 chars, but the 1000 character limit was enforced with javascript IIRC (can I get a shout out to NoScript?).
1000 characters is not enough. Why place a limit? Can't Paypal take criticism? Or more likely those beloved shareholders are more important than your customers?
Paypal are greedy cunts, security is BS, you react in knee-jerk ways to sec issues (as long as paypal isn't ripped off, fraud isn't a problem from your point of view. So what if the customer get ripped off, what are they going to do, find another escrow service they can use on ebay?).
But fat-cat execs can't ever see what is wrong with their greed (and that attitude filters throughout an organisation. Do you have wanker middle-mgmt types that will fuck over the peons for personal gain (like bonuses or cars)?). I bet the person who reads this (first, but I doubt even if this gets escalated no-one will give a shit) is paid an insulting salary and hates their job, or at least the office politics etc..
At least in the UK you are regulated by the FSA, but elsewhere I understand you can do what you like, because your not a bank and are so able to avoid any regulation.
PS It's trivial to by pass restrictions on a website, and only a retard would think that a JS limiter would be worth deploying into the production environment. But let me guess, the accountant types make the decisions, not the people who actually understand tech.
(though if there is half a clue anywhere in your organisation, you'll have post submit checks to force the-limits) (Wow, you do on the 3 tick box rule. I also want to tick:
No longer need / one time use Bank account verification PayPal's customer service was unprofessional Fees are too high Credit card verification PayPal's products do not meet my needs)
I have entered the following into the "other" box, but it's over a number of characters so your shitty web site is choking:
Spam. I signed up for policy notifs & transaction emails, but I started getting shit about paypal by text, or someother system that is screaming out as a fraud vector, and you added me to a fucking mailing list without my consent.
And what the fuck? I have said to close this account multiple times, and I am repeatedly asked if I want to do something else. No, fucktards, I don't.
If I pay someone on ebay by a bank transfer, they give me their details, not the other way round (so my privacy is actually maintained, of course they get an address to post the goods to). I don't use ebay much, but from my recent use it appears that a reasonable amount of (power?) sellers openly publish their bank details for payers' convienience. To transfer money I need the accounts name, sort code and account number, and with that info I can only put money into the account, not remove any. The ebay seller would get my bank details on their statement probably.
Do you realized that everytime you give out that information you are risking being taken for all that you have in the bank. One of the Nigerian scams involves getting you banking information and then poof you account is dry
Of course I'm aware of the 419'ers, but no (British) bank should let funds be removed from an account with just the a/c name, number and sort code, AFAIK! I have heard the senario you have described above before, and always taken it with a pinch of salt, but that doesn't mean I'm blazé with my bank info. Also, that bank info is nothing more than can be shoulder surfed from my card anyway, or from the bottom edge of a cheque - i.e. the info is essentially in the open anyway. If I am a fraud victim and I haven't disclosed anything stupid (like my PIN), then my bank should be receptive to giving me a refund (they should refund fraud victims no matter what, but I digress). If I have allowed a corporate entity to drain my account because I didn't read terms and conditions correctly, then I'm a bit fucked.
"For those of you who think Paypal Sucks, well, starting soon it sucks just a little less."
Do people really think that when a corporation gets ordered by a court to behave in a different way, that the organisation will really change? At best, the screwing over and offensive behaviour will become more subtle, or "accepted" (by their customers) screwings from other finance houses will be done by PP but "enhanced". Shit like them taking x days to transfer money about, for example.
But they still suck, I am still not prepared to do business with them. If I need to use the 'bay, then I buy from sellers who take direct bank transfers. Friends can PP for me, but I'd rather not encourage the use of PP in anyway.
So far, Apple's drm policies have gotten slowly looser and more permissive. They raised the number of machines that can be simultaneously authorized to play drm'd files from three to five; they raised the cap on the number of times that the same playlist of drm'd file can be burned from I think five to seven; they added a feature to automatically offer to copy drm'd files from an ipod to a machine as long as that machine is also authorized to play them.
Whereas, as this and other stories document, Microsoft's drm policies have been getting more restrictive, even before compatibility issues like Zune and PlayForSure.
Not to troll, but the lifted restrictions Apple have given in the big scheme of things don't make a lot of difference: If you can burn even one audio CD from protected music what's it matter if you can burn 5 or 7 (or 100)? (Though it then follows why have the protection at all?). What I am saying is that maybe Apple are appearing to be lifting restrictions so that the Apple fanboys [1] have ammo to use in debates against MS' DRM? This would be very good for Apple's business. People like to pan MS (as do I), and if Apple can make their DRM appear less shitty than MS' then one-nil to Apple.
People who truly understand DRM won't entertain it at all, and so they won't ever have problems with their CDs/MP3s or XviD not working in 30 years (or 3!). There was a post above where someone got burnt twice by MS' DRM, so went to Apple! WTF? You didn't learn, did you? No doubt people will retort that DRM systems can be easy to use and workaround - but really, why bother in the first place?
[1] I'm not calling you an Apple fanboy at all Onan, fanboy is an easy label to use for people who come across as pro-Apple. Shame it needs a disclaimer;)
No version of any Apple software has ever required registration or license confirmation.
I've not seen forced registration, but when you first turn on an Apple machine you're asked to agree to the EULA, and for the first run of iTunes and for subsequent updates. I may be a bit wrong, but I'm pretty sure of this as I do the updates and stuff on my Mum's Mac Mini, so I think I've been offered a licence to agree to with iTunes updates.
I've just tried mplayer here, and get the same! I just connected a 2nd monitor to my laptop (with ATI graphics), went into the windows display properties, and ticked the box to extend the desktop onto the 2nd monitor. Mplayer won't display video on the 2nd screen (but mplayer2.exe will! Though you have to stop and start the video on the 2nd monitor).
But if you don't extend the display using Windows' options and use the ATI options (ie press the advanced button in the Windows display options) to enable a second screen then mplayer will display on the 2nd monitor, but only full screen (and when mplayer isn't running the desktop is cloned onto both monitors). Not perfect, but better, slightly....
The Voodoo 3 can do 32bit 2D, ie the desktop, but not 3D. I used to use a PCI one too in my multimonitor set up before replacing it with a cooler running Matrox G450 DH. The 3dfx based card was nice for those games that were directX 3 but had glide, and for shit like glide Winamp plugins. DirectX 3 had no hardware accelerated support, so glide was the one of the only ways to do it for a while on Windows. Need for Speed 2 SE and Wipeout something or other were like that, IIRC.
In any case, take heart in that it doesn't seem to work in my Seamonkey browser, either. I get this weird annoying floater which tells me how many comments are there, but no way that I can work out to increase or decrease my viewing threshold.
Click on the black up and down arrows between the segments in the floaty box, and it'll make your browser freeze for a sec whilst it reformats the page, but it'll hide or reveal comments. I've had this D2 affair available for a while, even though I don't subscribe, and it took me a while to get used to it (then they made changes to it) (Cheers Taco, but I'd prefer to see mod points again rather than access to the new toys;) ).
About the only laptop manufacturer left that still includes an actual potentiometer volume control is Toshiba, AFAIK, for all their models.
Not all their model's. I've got a Sat Pro L20 bought earlier this year and the volume control is via Fn-up and down, and Fn-esc for mute. No hardware dial:(
I'm a bit pissed off with this machine actually. I bought it with XP Home with every intention of setting up a dual boot of Linux and Windows 2000. But the graphics are ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, which the ATI (reference) driver's don't work with! (nor do the things like omega). So I have to install the Toshiba OEM'd ones, which will only install on XP. (So corp XP Pro it is then). I'm yet to give Linux a proper go on this machine, but from what I've tried the ATI binary driver won't work with my graphics, I was just getting a black screen (same even during the install of Ubuntu IIRC). It appears that the ATI driver doesn't work with X.org, but xgl will work, from what I saw on some forum post!
Maybe the contents of the CMOS, the BIOS' settings, were a little corrupt. The keyboard is a very basic part of a PC, so caps lock "breaking" kind of fits... Maybe when you saved the BIOS settings it rewrote the data correctly, and from then on Windows didn't crap out because a 0 was a 1 by mistake;)
I had a hard drive once that would not work in my PC, but would in others. It just wouldn't spin up. But I found that if I connected the power a second after turning the PC on the disk would power up, and work fine! Must have been the PSU not providing enough juice when everything in the machine started. That PSU did end up burning out, to be honest.
Buy.com used to operate in the UK, and I placed an order for a bunch of stuff from them years ago. It appeared that buy.com only ever had 1 size of packing box which they used for everything, about 2' x 1.5' x1', which then had a plastic sheet inside to hold down the goods in the box. My order was a few boxes, but one had only 1 DDS tape in the bottom, with the rest of the box being fresh air!
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I dropped an old mobile phone in a toilet, and it lived, a Sony Ericson T68i! I had been to the pub and had had a skin-full, was taking a piss at home and decided to have a look at my phone with my other hand, to see the time. Well, I dropped it mid-flow. Even though I was drunk I knew I had 2 choices: grab the phone ASAP, get it dry and it might work, or fuck it off cos its likely died and because its sitting in a toilet full of piss (hell, might aswell flush it). Being drunk I stuck my hand straight in the bog and grabbed it, rinsed the phone under running cold water whilst taking the cover off and removing the battery, wiped off as much moisture as possible and sat all the bits on top of a radiator for a week or so in a sock.
When I tried the phone after drying it out, it miraculously worked! And better than before it went for its swim - previously some of the buttons were rather unresponsive, but afterwards they worked like new (for about a month) - I guess the "solvent" it was exposed to shifted the fluff and dirt from behind the buttons! And it tended to have better reception after the dip too!
I didn't think of trying to shift any moisture with IPA, not that there was any in the house, but I should think IPA and warm air would help to remove any remaining moisture in electronics quite effectively. The point of my (rather gross) anecdote is that if you dry electronics properly, they do still sometimes work after getting wet!
Goddamn you're right! Awesome, thanks. Any idea when they added it? I've been using the new discussion system since the day they offered the option, and this is the first time I've seen it!
Yeah, the quote button must have appeared the last few days. Shame it's clear already that very few people who use the quoting will bother to edit the quote so that its in context, without huge swathes of quoted text. It'll be like how usenet was 10 years ago.... (Then MS came along and decided that quoting the wrong way round was best!)
The UK plan much more than just ID. See http://www.no2id.net/IDSchemes/whyNot.php#1
What is the point of ads visible from Earth orbit? Are there lots of people in orbit to sell to?
There's only a few in orbit, but some of them are really really wealthy, so you want them as your customerHave a look at Las Vegas. I think that's one of the places with the highest res images currently. People are visible, to the level of detail that their shadow is visible "with legs", as it were.
No, the cat is behaving normally. You bought snake oil ;)
Of course it's possible the cat is having a snooze somewhere warm, like a server or comms room (this is /. after all) or in the sunshine, then moving around in the house and its fur may be holding a lot of heat - enough to trigger the system?
That's free publicity, so don't complain. ;) Make sure your MP3s are tagged well - ie correct and consistent track and band details, spelling, capitalisation etc.. Make your MP3s better than the shit on P2P, so research LAME and it's cunning settings. Embed the album or single artwork at a not-huge res within the MP3s (the res that will look best on an iPod), and put the URL for the band and more downloads in the ID3 comment field. That way, if some random joe finds the track on P2P at least they may be lead to a source where they may pay for more.
I still buy CDs partially for the physical album art, and I really love what some bands do with their sleeve's. When a visitor buys an MP3 or album of, why not offer nice hi-res copies of the album art for download too? It should be possible to have PDFs produced too by the site for download so that the user can even print their own CD album art and burn a physical copy (do offer PDF as an extra - I'd personally want a decent JPG or PNG).
And offer MD5 or SHA1 checksums of the MP3s too at download time, to keep the paranoid geeks happy. And make sure your servers are happy with clients using download managers. I don't know how widely used the likes of Getright are anymore, but back int' day, I hated it when an HTTP server wouldn't offer resuming, which was pretty essential on dial-up.
Ramble over...
Sounds fair to me... If I ring up a company and ask to speak to the lawyers, not matter what name I use for them I do expect to be put through. I like the way your former employer clearly then set a "default" department for the caller, and so didn't jerk the customer around every time they rang in the future.
I wonder if the advert viewing statistics will have a bearing on future map design/layout? How about spawn points in "safe" locations (just away from the action), and the user then has to pass ads to get back to the action. I bet this will come if this spyware stays (or is accepted by enough people).
Fucknose.
Wow, now that was a first class game. I remember the game's manual being right: use the mouse (and what a mouse the Amiga had, the big wedge of cheese). I couldn't get Zeewolf to work in an emulator, WinUAE, when I tried in the past... :(
Ahh, but if stolen mobiles in the UK couldn't work, then there'd be a lot less mobiles available amongst the population. Fewer mobile phones means fewer phone calls made, and as the operators charge by time on the phone, working stolen phones=profits for the operators. I should think that is one of the reasons why an IMEI dbase is not more efficient.
As for returning guarentee cards, no thanks. The phone operators can easily determine your usual phone's IMEI number anyway, and they also have that info recorded anyway: I once entered my SIM's PIN wrong 3 times and locked it out. To undo this, I had to key in the IMEI number. To get this, I phoned my operator (from a friend's phone), gave them my phone number (and maybe some more info, or confirmed info) and they gave me the IMEI number. All this was done in a pub.
That's probably because they've hosted 2 world wars, and they're still in the French peoples' memory.
OK, so it follows that the fewer places my bank details are, the less likely a direct debit could be set up to hoover my account. So by not using Paypal, by not even having an account (anymore), I cannot be phished, nor can PP be cracked (tech or social) and my details getting out.
Though my bank details may be visible to other ebay users I buy from, and by extension their accounts could be hacked and my details obtained by a crook, but this is pretty unlikely. But by the sounds of it the DD scheme is very protected and thats the only real "attack vector" if you have my sort code, name and a/c number.
But I found a file on my laptop earlier that I used as a notebook whilst I was constructing my rant to put in the box when closing the Paypal account I had (in error...). I feel I need to share this with the world, and you can give Paypal this amount of abuse and they don't do anything! :) This chunk is over 2000 chars, but the 1000 character limit was enforced with javascript IIRC (can I get a shout out to NoScript?).
Yeah, it turned into a foaming rant :)
If I pay someone on ebay by a bank transfer, they give me their details, not the other way round (so my privacy is actually maintained, of course they get an address to post the goods to). I don't use ebay much, but from my recent use it appears that a reasonable amount of (power?) sellers openly publish their bank details for payers' convienience. To transfer money I need the accounts name, sort code and account number, and with that info I can only put money into the account, not remove any. The ebay seller would get my bank details on their statement probably.
Of course I'm aware of the 419'ers, but no (British) bank should let funds be removed from an account with just the a/c name, number and sort code, AFAIK! I have heard the senario you have described above before, and always taken it with a pinch of salt, but that doesn't mean I'm blazé with my bank info. Also, that bank info is nothing more than can be shoulder surfed from my card anyway, or from the bottom edge of a cheque - i.e. the info is essentially in the open anyway. If I am a fraud victim and I haven't disclosed anything stupid (like my PIN), then my bank should be receptive to giving me a refund (they should refund fraud victims no matter what, but I digress). If I have allowed a corporate entity to drain my account because I didn't read terms and conditions correctly, then I'm a bit fucked.
Do people really think that when a corporation gets ordered by a court to behave in a different way, that the organisation will really change? At best, the screwing over and offensive behaviour will become more subtle, or "accepted" (by their customers) screwings from other finance houses will be done by PP but "enhanced". Shit like them taking x days to transfer money about, for example.
But they still suck, I am still not prepared to do business with them. If I need to use the 'bay, then I buy from sellers who take direct bank transfers. Friends can PP for me, but I'd rather not encourage the use of PP in anyway.
Yeah, car analogies break down.
Not to troll, but the lifted restrictions Apple have given in the big scheme of things don't make a lot of difference: If you can burn even one audio CD from protected music what's it matter if you can burn 5 or 7 (or 100)? (Though it then follows why have the protection at all?). What I am saying is that maybe Apple are appearing to be lifting restrictions so that the Apple fanboys [1] have ammo to use in debates against MS' DRM? This would be very good for Apple's business. People like to pan MS (as do I), and if Apple can make their DRM appear less shitty than MS' then one-nil to Apple.
People who truly understand DRM won't entertain it at all, and so they won't ever have problems with their CDs/MP3s or XviD not working in 30 years (or 3!). There was a post above where someone got burnt twice by MS' DRM, so went to Apple! WTF? You didn't learn, did you? No doubt people will retort that DRM systems can be easy to use and workaround - but really, why bother in the first place?
[1] I'm not calling you an Apple fanboy at all Onan, fanboy is an easy label to use for people who come across as pro-Apple. Shame it needs a disclaimer ;)
I've not seen forced registration, but when you first turn on an Apple machine you're asked to agree to the EULA, and for the first run of iTunes and for subsequent updates. I may be a bit wrong, but I'm pretty sure of this as I do the updates and stuff on my Mum's Mac Mini, so I think I've been offered a licence to agree to with iTunes updates.
But if you don't extend the display using Windows' options and use the ATI options (ie press the advanced button in the Windows display options) to enable a second screen then mplayer will display on the 2nd monitor, but only full screen (and when mplayer isn't running the desktop is cloned onto both monitors). Not perfect, but better, slightly....
The Voodoo 3 can do 32bit 2D, ie the desktop, but not 3D. I used to use a PCI one too in my multimonitor set up before replacing it with a cooler running Matrox G450 DH. The 3dfx based card was nice for those games that were directX 3 but had glide, and for shit like glide Winamp plugins. DirectX 3 had no hardware accelerated support, so glide was the one of the only ways to do it for a while on Windows. Need for Speed 2 SE and Wipeout something or other were like that, IIRC.
Click on the black up and down arrows between the segments in the floaty box, and it'll make your browser freeze for a sec whilst it reformats the page, but it'll hide or reveal comments. I've had this D2 affair available for a while, even though I don't subscribe, and it took me a while to get used to it (then they made changes to it) (Cheers Taco, but I'd prefer to see mod points again rather than access to the new toys ;) ).
Now that sounds exactly why the "surveys" are in the exception list for DNC. Lobbiests working hard again...
Not all their model's. I've got a Sat Pro L20 bought earlier this year and the volume control is via Fn-up and down, and Fn-esc for mute. No hardware dial :(
I'm a bit pissed off with this machine actually. I bought it with XP Home with every intention of setting up a dual boot of Linux and Windows 2000. But the graphics are ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, which the ATI (reference) driver's don't work with! (nor do the things like omega). So I have to install the Toshiba OEM'd ones, which will only install on XP. (So corp XP Pro it is then). I'm yet to give Linux a proper go on this machine, but from what I've tried the ATI binary driver won't work with my graphics, I was just getting a black screen (same even during the install of Ubuntu IIRC). It appears that the ATI driver doesn't work with X.org, but xgl will work, from what I saw on some forum post!
Wow, I got side-tracked!
I had a hard drive once that would not work in my PC, but would in others. It just wouldn't spin up. But I found that if I connected the power a second after turning the PC on the disk would power up, and work fine! Must have been the PSU not providing enough juice when everything in the machine started. That PSU did end up burning out, to be honest.
Buy.com used to operate in the UK, and I placed an order for a bunch of stuff from them years ago. It appeared that buy.com only ever had 1 size of packing box which they used for everything, about 2' x 1.5' x1', which then had a plastic sheet inside to hold down the goods in the box. My order was a few boxes, but one had only 1 DDS tape in the bottom, with the rest of the box being fresh air!
(I know what /. is getting like, so here's what a DDS tape looks like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum b/1/1d/DSS1_Tape_wScale.JPG/800px-DSS1_Tape_wScale .JPG)