Oh, I get your parent's post, it's just that the way you wrote your post (potentially unclear content directly followed by your name) made it joke fodder.
Incidentally... I think a lot of people are using Insightful mods now to mod Funny posts up so that the poster gets Karma. Downmods from a Funny post can hurt your Karma, but upmods to Funny don't help it, so a lot of people seem to be short-circuiting this oddity by using karma-giving upmods on Funny posts and hoping that the reader is smart enough not to rely on the mod result to determine what is and isn't a joke.
YOU are an idiot and I STRONGLY suggest that you go take a look at the recent history of Spain.
hmmm... let's see here.
Spanish People: We don't want to want to go to war!
Socialists: We shouldn't go to war!
Government: Too fscking bad!
People: You go bye bye now.
Socialists: We should get the troops out of Iraq!
American Media: THE SKY IS FALLING AND THE SPANISH PEOPLE ARE TO BLAME!!!! THE SPANISH SOCIALIST DEVILS ARE APPEARERS! AAAAAH!!!!! by the way, watch more ads....
You: Look at me! I pretend to understand complex issues on the pretext that "you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists!"
Lay off the paint chips. You can make up whatever bizarre, bullshit story you want about the Spanish election, but the Socialists said from the very beginning that there shouldn't be troops in Iraq and the Spanish people didn't want to go. Now the socialists win an election after the government goes against the will of its people and stand by their convictions that they don't belong in the war and you're shitting yourself over it? You're just a fucking moron looking for an "issue" to go beat your chest about. Too bad you don't bother to apply the tiniest bit of critical thinking to it before you do so.
*I* feed the ter'rists, do I? Do you care to explain WHY? Because I called bullshit on the fact that you're talking out your ass about things you can only pretend to understand? Perhaps you'd like to go add up the number of American citizens killed by terrorists on U.S. soil (including embassies) and then compare that to the number of Europeans killed in the same vein? Or, would you just like to keep thumping your mighty chest about how those dirty shits over on the other side of the ocean don't "get it"? Do you think you're special because the U.S. suffered 9/11? You'd be hard pressed to argue it wasn't one of the most significant attacks in history in terms of damage, number of dead, and course of history alteration, but you'd have to be a total idiot (much like yourself) to suggest that that somehow is some special badge that the U.S. wears. We suffered practically NOTHING before that in terms of foreign terrorism on U.S. soil compared to the rest of the world. We are not some special target, despite what fear-mongering fools like you like to believe. We're just in it like everybody else now.
The only thing of any significance in this discussion is the way you've highlighted the sheer magnitude of some people's ignorance. We didn't suffer mightily on 9/11 in any way the rest of the world wasn't already. We just joined it. You go ahead and pretend otherwise. While you're out there being the tough guy that you are and saving us all from this evil threat by telling other people how to live their lives, a lot of other people will actually be trying to stop it. Your words insult all those people who are actually doing something and I hope YOU pay for them justly in the end.
What exactly do YOU "get" that the Europeans don't? How, exactly, are you so special? I assume you're American. Nobody else would be so pathetically crass to make such an ignorant statement.
The country you live in is one of the safest in the world from terrorist attacks. Europeans have been suffering them for centuries. What, exactly, is it that makes them not see this special vision that you have? Where does this special understanding of yours come from?
Were you a rescuer on 9/11? Were you a victim? Did someone in your family or one of your friends suffer? What gives you this special understanding of terroism that these people who have dealt with it since before your great great granddaddy got his nuts in a twist don't have?
NOTHING. You're just a loudmouth moron. You just have a superiority complex and "god help these dirty, stupid Europeans who are tired of fighting all the time. They just aren't CHOSEN like I am, they don't see the beautiful path that is set forth like I do!"
If you really are American, I'm sorry to have to share that nationality with you and I hope your incredible ignorance doesn't reflect on all of us as badly as it may. Do us all a HUGE favor and just keep your mouth shut before you make the world think we're all as stupid as you.
You want to piss around with people who aren't afraid to call bullshit on you for being the idiot that you are? Go ahead, asswipe. Take me on once. We'll see just who here is a little coward because I'm NOT hiding behind the AC name. Although, frankly, I don't blame the AC you've been sparring with for not even wasting the time on you to show the courtesy of posting with a face.
Uh, that's all well and good. Now, would you like to try responding to my post without taking it out of context and off on random tangents?
Read the parent and grandparent posts to my post, and try again. The issue is the ability of a virus to disable a/v and firewall software. The parent to me said "you need TCPA" and I said "bullshit, a permissions structure handles this - you start system-critical processes with an account that user space applications have exactly NO rights to". Real easy. Concept's been around, what, 40 years? Hey! Look what happens when I do 'kill -9 421' (syslogd) from my user account: Operation not permitted. Yea, we need TCPA in Windows to protect critical processes from stupid users, right?
What's the big deal here? Windows users are mostly running as admins and any stupid shit the morons launch can run rampant and damage things with impunity. Fix the permissions structure, and you fix the problem my grandparent poster complained about. This is computer science 020 people...
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Congratulations. You have succeeded in doing what only hundreds of millions of people have done before you: convinced yourself that arbitrary, totally unsubstantiated, and naturally negating belief is "as good as" coming to a conclusion based on observable, testable phenomena and predictive reasoning. Then, you "proved" this illogical, truly idiotic postulate to yourself by comparing two almost completely unrelated things - physical science and social law.
What amazes me most is that "God" can never be tested nor questioned yet must be accepted. This in itself leads to a completely illogical, unsubstainable, totally non-predictive conclusion. By its very nature, the basis for Judeo-Christian religion negates any logical possibility of acceptance through proof. Without the proof, you must simply come to an arbitrary conclusion with no possibility for evidence to uphold that conclusion.
Therefore, in the end, any basis for a religious conclusion that negates itself by stating that it cannot be tested is nothing more than a totally wild guess. The statement "Creationism is true" is no better from a logical, scientific perspective than simply combining random characters and presenting the result as a solution to the problem of life's origins. If you'd like to accept random, wild postulates, that's your perogative. Just don't try to make everybody else dumber by suggesting there's any basis for believing them.
And, on one final note, this is one of the DUMBEST statements I've ever seen in my life:
We just observed evidence that according to most scienific theories indicates that Earth is over 6000 years old.
The suggestion that the 6000 year old earth view - with no sustainable evidence - is better than an observation resulting from a long string of scientific evidence pieced together across centuries of research just because there MIGHT be a flaw in an observation somewhere is so ridiculously, maddeningly stupid that I have to call into question the intelligence of anyone who would actually argue such a thing.
You're off your rocker. It's called "permissions". If you start something important as an admin (like, say, the A/V software), and then you run everything in user space, you get a virus that can only hurt other user space processes.
What is so complicated about that? Even if I let a virus loose in my Linux install through a bash shell running as a user, all it can do is hurt MY data. All the other accounts are safe and the system itself will not be compromised (barring exploitation of a vulnerability in the system which is a whole different ballgame than what we have here). The worst it can do to the rest of the system is a resource exhaustion or similarly annoying-but-ultimately-benign attack.
This is not a hard concept, it's just not one Windows was built on in the name of "ease of use".
One Troll moderation has been M2'ed as "UNFAIR". I don't see a problem with espousing a valid point of view that I happen to disagree with. In additiona, your posting history doesn't indicate common trolling anywhere.
UNFAIR! I see no flames, and based on your posting history I don't get the impression you intended to pick a fight..
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so the submiter statement could be true nonetheless...
Yea, and I could be a 391 pound snail. It's not freakin' likely.
The damn thing could spread 100% of its radioactive material directly into the ocean itself and it wouldn't a be a big deal. Any life that happened to be in the localized area when it happened may not be so happy, but overall there's not going to be anything even remotely approaching a disaster. Barely a concern, in fact, unless out of that entire moon the probe just happened to explode in the only tiny, tiny spot that could support life. And the unbelievably bad odds of that are what now?
The concern about "contamination" that people who aren't just submitting trolls to the Slashdot editors talk about comes from biological sources, not radioactive ones.
I didn't say he was my friend. In fact, I didn't even say I liked him. Just said I knew him. Besides, he already got what was coming to him. In fact, the guy he sold the car to turned out to be a mechanic himself, so maybe that's what actually did him in.
Most cars will set off some other indicator when you do that. I know a guy that pulled the bulb on a Probe before he sold it. The airbag light started blinking endlessly. Pulled that (smart) and the door chime wouldn't shut off. Cut the wiring to that and it finally stopped all the warnings, but some day somebody with that Probe is going to wonder why they have no door chime and why two lights don't light up when the car turns on.
The problem with all of this is that it's so hard to determine who's the good guy in it. It's like watching a bad western with only black hats in it.
On one side, you have the kids that are freely breaking copyright laws left and right because they want to watch a movie or listen to a song but for whatever moronic reason don't feel they should have to compensate anyone for it (to the dolts that will undoubtedly say "but it costs too much, they're just ripping us off.. waahh waahh.. let me suck my thumb like a little baby" - deal with it. It's called making an informed decision. If you don't think it's a value purchase, don't make the purchase. Doesn't mean you can just rip off a copy for yourself without compensating anyone).
On the other side, you have these assmunching wonders who are penning laws and signing the dotted line with the names of public officials. WTF?
Sigh... if you need me, I'll be working on my rocket ship to Mars. The rest of you bozos can fight it out amongst yourselves. There's no "good fight" here to join...
IP's job is not to know anything about the data it's transmitting. IP specifically disavows any knowledge of what it's carrying in fact, as it's ONLY concern is moving datagrams from one place to another.
That's the beauty of an n-tier system of protocols. One protocol says "okay, I do this and nothing else - you want something else, it's your responsibility to do it, not mine". For example, IP doesn't care if a datagram gets lost. In fact, IP doesn't even require an ICMP message to go back in the event that, say the TTL hits zero (the gateway that notes the 0 TTL "may" send an ICMP message back noting that the datagram timed out). TCP, on the other hand, doesn't worry about how to transmit the data. But one thing it does is keeps track of the datagrams that are sent and resends them if they get lost or mangled on the wire.
Exactly - I'm far from a Microsoft fan. I used to sit around saying "well, let's give them the benefit of the doubt", but the more I use MS products, the less I like them and the company that made them. However, in this instance, Microsoft did a good job. STILL there are psychotic zealots trying to spin this against them.
What amazes me is that if you confront these people (likely like whatever moron modded me flamebait while I responded to your sister post) they'll claim they're doing it "for Linux" or something similar, but they don't realize that all they're doing is making those of us who actually LIKE the system for what it is look like frothing dolts who have nothing better to do than invent bizarre, make-believe bullshit against some percieved nemesis.
You've got to be kidding me, right? Look, I've got it in for Microsoft-the-monopoly, but not like this. They patched a damn problem and they did it fairly quickly. Even if they goofed on the first one, they took a mere 24 hours (a fairly typical OSS turnaround) to come back and offer reparations for it. Not only did they not drag their feet on the fix, they didn't drag their feet on repairs of a potential oversight from the first one.
Note the bold highlights since it's all speculation as to whether it was their goof or a mere coincidence that additional issues were discovered in the process. Some people are just trying to spin one of Microsoft's rare good moments against them as a knee-jerk reaction. I'm all for alternative OS's and choice, but on technical merit, not knee-jerk anti-MS reactions and unsubstantiated speculation.
So everyone could get on their ass for slow patching instead?
Look, they patched a hole in a relatively decent period of time. They then patched additional issues quickly as well.
I hate Microsoft too, but for crying out loud... how utterly fucking naive do you have to be to sit there trying to spin reasonable patch fixes against the company? Some people just need to get a life...
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There's no reason he can't sue Google. It's a matter of whether he can win. In fact:
[Google pagerank] reformats information obtained from accurate sources, resulting in changing of the context in which information is presented.
If that's his basis for the lawsuit, I hope they countersue the little twerp straight into bankruptcy.
Oh, I get your parent's post, it's just that the way you wrote your post (potentially unclear content directly followed by your name) made it joke fodder.
Incidentally... I think a lot of people are using Insightful mods now to mod Funny posts up so that the poster gets Karma. Downmods from a Funny post can hurt your Karma, but upmods to Funny don't help it, so a lot of people seem to be short-circuiting this oddity by using karma-giving upmods on Funny posts and hoping that the reader is smart enough not to rely on the mod result to determine what is and isn't a joke.
lol hehe :)
Sivaram VelauthapillaiWTH? At first I couldn't figure out what you were laughing at and thought you were laughing at your own name...
Second ring? Damn people are lucky if I answer on the second CALL!
YOU are an idiot and I STRONGLY suggest that you go take a look at the recent history of Spain.
hmmm... let's see here.
Spanish People: We don't want to want to go to war!
Socialists: We shouldn't go to war!
Government: Too fscking bad!
People: You go bye bye now.
Socialists: We should get the troops out of Iraq!
American Media: THE SKY IS FALLING AND THE SPANISH PEOPLE ARE TO BLAME!!!! THE SPANISH SOCIALIST DEVILS ARE APPEARERS! AAAAAH!!!!! by the way, watch more ads....
You: Look at me! I pretend to understand complex issues on the pretext that "you're either with us, or you're with the terrorists!"
Lay off the paint chips. You can make up whatever bizarre, bullshit story you want about the Spanish election, but the Socialists said from the very beginning that there shouldn't be troops in Iraq and the Spanish people didn't want to go. Now the socialists win an election after the government goes against the will of its people and stand by their convictions that they don't belong in the war and you're shitting yourself over it? You're just a fucking moron looking for an "issue" to go beat your chest about. Too bad you don't bother to apply the tiniest bit of critical thinking to it before you do so.
*I* feed the ter'rists, do I? Do you care to explain WHY? Because I called bullshit on the fact that you're talking out your ass about things you can only pretend to understand? Perhaps you'd like to go add up the number of American citizens killed by terrorists on U.S. soil (including embassies) and then compare that to the number of Europeans killed in the same vein? Or, would you just like to keep thumping your mighty chest about how those dirty shits over on the other side of the ocean don't "get it"? Do you think you're special because the U.S. suffered 9/11? You'd be hard pressed to argue it wasn't one of the most significant attacks in history in terms of damage, number of dead, and course of history alteration, but you'd have to be a total idiot (much like yourself) to suggest that that somehow is some special badge that the U.S. wears. We suffered practically NOTHING before that in terms of foreign terrorism on U.S. soil compared to the rest of the world. We are not some special target, despite what fear-mongering fools like you like to believe. We're just in it like everybody else now.
The only thing of any significance in this discussion is the way you've highlighted the sheer magnitude of some people's ignorance. We didn't suffer mightily on 9/11 in any way the rest of the world wasn't already. We just joined it. You go ahead and pretend otherwise. While you're out there being the tough guy that you are and saving us all from this evil threat by telling other people how to live their lives, a lot of other people will actually be trying to stop it. Your words insult all those people who are actually doing something and I hope YOU pay for them justly in the end.
What exactly do YOU "get" that the Europeans don't? How, exactly, are you so special? I assume you're American. Nobody else would be so pathetically crass to make such an ignorant statement.
The country you live in is one of the safest in the world from terrorist attacks. Europeans have been suffering them for centuries. What, exactly, is it that makes them not see this special vision that you have? Where does this special understanding of yours come from?
Were you a rescuer on 9/11? Were you a victim? Did someone in your family or one of your friends suffer? What gives you this special understanding of terroism that these people who have dealt with it since before your great great granddaddy got his nuts in a twist don't have?
NOTHING. You're just a loudmouth moron. You just have a superiority complex and "god help these dirty, stupid Europeans who are tired of fighting all the time. They just aren't CHOSEN like I am, they don't see the beautiful path that is set forth like I do!"
If you really are American, I'm sorry to have to share that nationality with you and I hope your incredible ignorance doesn't reflect on all of us as badly as it may. Do us all a HUGE favor and just keep your mouth shut before you make the world think we're all as stupid as you.
You want to piss around with people who aren't afraid to call bullshit on you for being the idiot that you are? Go ahead, asswipe. Take me on once. We'll see just who here is a little coward because I'm NOT hiding behind the AC name. Although, frankly, I don't blame the AC you've been sparring with for not even wasting the time on you to show the courtesy of posting with a face.
Uh, that's all well and good. Now, would you like to try responding to my post without taking it out of context and off on random tangents?
Read the parent and grandparent posts to my post, and try again. The issue is the ability of a virus to disable a/v and firewall software. The parent to me said "you need TCPA" and I said "bullshit, a permissions structure handles this - you start system-critical processes with an account that user space applications have exactly NO rights to". Real easy. Concept's been around, what, 40 years? Hey! Look what happens when I do 'kill -9 421' (syslogd) from my user account: Operation not permitted. Yea, we need TCPA in Windows to protect critical processes from stupid users, right?
What's the big deal here? Windows users are mostly running as admins and any stupid shit the morons launch can run rampant and damage things with impunity. Fix the permissions structure, and you fix the problem my grandparent poster complained about. This is computer science 020 people...
Congratulations. You have succeeded in doing what only hundreds of millions of people have done before you: convinced yourself that arbitrary, totally unsubstantiated, and naturally negating belief is "as good as" coming to a conclusion based on observable, testable phenomena and predictive reasoning. Then, you "proved" this illogical, truly idiotic postulate to yourself by comparing two almost completely unrelated things - physical science and social law.
What amazes me most is that "God" can never be tested nor questioned yet must be accepted. This in itself leads to a completely illogical, unsubstainable, totally non-predictive conclusion. By its very nature, the basis for Judeo-Christian religion negates any logical possibility of acceptance through proof. Without the proof, you must simply come to an arbitrary conclusion with no possibility for evidence to uphold that conclusion.
Therefore, in the end, any basis for a religious conclusion that negates itself by stating that it cannot be tested is nothing more than a totally wild guess. The statement "Creationism is true" is no better from a logical, scientific perspective than simply combining random characters and presenting the result as a solution to the problem of life's origins. If you'd like to accept random, wild postulates, that's your perogative. Just don't try to make everybody else dumber by suggesting there's any basis for believing them.
And, on one final note, this is one of the DUMBEST statements I've ever seen in my life:
We just observed evidence that according to most scienific theories indicates that Earth is over 6000 years old.
The suggestion that the 6000 year old earth view - with no sustainable evidence - is better than an observation resulting from a long string of scientific evidence pieced together across centuries of research just because there MIGHT be a flaw in an observation somewhere is so ridiculously, maddeningly stupid that I have to call into question the intelligence of anyone who would actually argue such a thing.
You're off your rocker. It's called "permissions". If you start something important as an admin (like, say, the A/V software), and then you run everything in user space, you get a virus that can only hurt other user space processes.
What is so complicated about that? Even if I let a virus loose in my Linux install through a bash shell running as a user, all it can do is hurt MY data. All the other accounts are safe and the system itself will not be compromised (barring exploitation of a vulnerability in the system which is a whole different ballgame than what we have here). The worst it can do to the rest of the system is a resource exhaustion or similarly annoying-but-ultimately-benign attack.
This is not a hard concept, it's just not one Windows was built on in the name of "ease of use".
One Troll moderation has been M2'ed as "UNFAIR". I don't see a problem with espousing a valid point of view that I happen to disagree with. In additiona, your posting history doesn't indicate common trolling anywhere.
Your -1 Flamebait modded:
UNFAIR! I see no flames, and based on your posting history I don't get the impression you intended to pick a fight..
so the submiter statement could be true nonetheless ...
Yea, and I could be a 391 pound snail. It's not freakin' likely.
The damn thing could spread 100% of its radioactive material directly into the ocean itself and it wouldn't a be a big deal. Any life that happened to be in the localized area when it happened may not be so happy, but overall there's not going to be anything even remotely approaching a disaster. Barely a concern, in fact, unless out of that entire moon the probe just happened to explode in the only tiny, tiny spot that could support life. And the unbelievably bad odds of that are what now?
The concern about "contamination" that people who aren't just submitting trolls to the Slashdot editors talk about comes from biological sources, not radioactive ones.
(;-))
Emoticon with a combover?
Which would be great, except they're after the copyright infringers that they keep calling pirates just to stir up the water.
And at least this time they're not throwing OUR money at it...
I didn't say he was my friend. In fact, I didn't even say I liked him. Just said I knew him. Besides, he already got what was coming to him. In fact, the guy he sold the car to turned out to be a mechanic himself, so maybe that's what actually did him in.
Most cars will set off some other indicator when you do that. I know a guy that pulled the bulb on a Probe before he sold it. The airbag light started blinking endlessly. Pulled that (smart) and the door chime wouldn't shut off. Cut the wiring to that and it finally stopped all the warnings, but some day somebody with that Probe is going to wonder why they have no door chime and why two lights don't light up when the car turns on.
Pull the battery overnight.
I going to hell and I am going to take all of you with me.
Can we drop you off at a basic English grammar class on the way? You sound like that kid from Flowers for Algernon. :-)
The problem with all of this is that it's so hard to determine who's the good guy in it. It's like watching a bad western with only black hats in it.
On one side, you have the kids that are freely breaking copyright laws left and right because they want to watch a movie or listen to a song but for whatever moronic reason don't feel they should have to compensate anyone for it (to the dolts that will undoubtedly say "but it costs too much, they're just ripping us off.. waahh waahh.. let me suck my thumb like a little baby" - deal with it. It's called making an informed decision. If you don't think it's a value purchase, don't make the purchase. Doesn't mean you can just rip off a copy for yourself without compensating anyone).
On the other side, you have these assmunching wonders who are penning laws and signing the dotted line with the names of public officials. WTF?
Sigh... if you need me, I'll be working on my rocket ship to Mars. The rest of you bozos can fight it out amongst yourselves. There's no "good fight" here to join...
I'll bet you're a riot at parties, what with your acute sense of humour and all.
IP's job is not to know anything about the data it's transmitting. IP specifically disavows any knowledge of what it's carrying in fact, as it's ONLY concern is moving datagrams from one place to another.
That's the beauty of an n-tier system of protocols. One protocol says "okay, I do this and nothing else - you want something else, it's your responsibility to do it, not mine". For example, IP doesn't care if a datagram gets lost. In fact, IP doesn't even require an ICMP message to go back in the event that, say the TTL hits zero (the gateway that notes the 0 TTL "may" send an ICMP message back noting that the datagram timed out). TCP, on the other hand, doesn't worry about how to transmit the data. But one thing it does is keeps track of the datagrams that are sent and resends them if they get lost or mangled on the wire.
Exactly - I'm far from a Microsoft fan. I used to sit around saying "well, let's give them the benefit of the doubt", but the more I use MS products, the less I like them and the company that made them. However, in this instance, Microsoft did a good job. STILL there are psychotic zealots trying to spin this against them.
What amazes me is that if you confront these people (likely like whatever moron modded me flamebait while I responded to your sister post) they'll claim they're doing it "for Linux" or something similar, but they don't realize that all they're doing is making those of us who actually LIKE the system for what it is look like frothing dolts who have nothing better to do than invent bizarre, make-believe bullshit against some percieved nemesis.
You've got to be kidding me, right? Look, I've got it in for Microsoft-the-monopoly, but not like this. They patched a damn problem and they did it fairly quickly. Even if they goofed on the first one, they took a mere 24 hours (a fairly typical OSS turnaround) to come back and offer reparations for it. Not only did they not drag their feet on the fix, they didn't drag their feet on repairs of a potential oversight from the first one.
Note the bold highlights since it's all speculation as to whether it was their goof or a mere coincidence that additional issues were discovered in the process. Some people are just trying to spin one of Microsoft's rare good moments against them as a knee-jerk reaction. I'm all for alternative OS's and choice, but on technical merit, not knee-jerk anti-MS reactions and unsubstantiated speculation.
So everyone could get on their ass for slow patching instead?
Look, they patched a hole in a relatively decent period of time. They then patched additional issues quickly as well.
I hate Microsoft too, but for crying out loud... how utterly fucking naive do you have to be to sit there trying to spin reasonable patch fixes against the company? Some people just need to get a life...