Well, I've resorted to just accepting a cluttered mess of wires that trips people and animals up. I think you've found that solution as well so we're pretty much on the same page.
You could go out and buy yourself wireless controllers. Other than those wires, the power and A/V plugs should be able to be routed through the back of any reasonable entertainment center furniture.
Spoken like someone who doesn't know all the facts but has a position already set... XBox games are routinely patched. With the addition of the PS2 hard drive in the market, subsequent PS2 games are going to be patched AND obviously the PS3 will have a hard drive. [By the way, Madden 2004 already requires downloaded content updates before you may play online.]
Let's see, what other FUD are you spreading? "Consoles will draw away the fuckwits?" Why? You give no valid reason why this statement is true. 90% of the population is of limited intellect, based on my experiences. Without giving a reason for your above statement, I might guess that you're not in the 10%. And not only do you not offer a reason why the "fuckwits" are being drawn to the console games, you actually refute it in the next two sentences. That's a hell of a way to make an argument son.
In short, it seems odd that anyone would take such a stance as you have. I enjoy playing online games for both the PS2 and for my PC.
As for the content thing - you offer no numbers to back up your claim. I would guess that the majority of people playing multiplayer online games are playing either original games [with only patches from the company being used] or professionally released mods - a la Counterstrike. You have no numbers to back up your belief that modded games are where everyone plays so, yet again, your point is not made. Better luck next time.
Well then, do you now understand why I would get a view of you which you claim is not correct? You were blaming people for being ignorant of the original work.
I think you owe me an apology for the rude tone you took with me when you've been so logically inconsistent in your posts.
Why is that a moronic comment? If you are upset that Tolkien did not get enough credit [as you now claim], then why is it a moronic comment for someone to be ignorant of Tolkien's work?
Come on, if you don't like the fact that people haven't been told about the books enough, why is it "MORONIC" for someone to be unaware of the books? Answer that please.
What a sad outlook on life you have. So drops down a few dollars, takes in a movie, enjoys it, and has never been exposed to any of the work of Tolkien. Big deal. Do you expect people to research where each and every movie they watch came from?
Oh my god, there are kids who have watched the movie and don't know about the books! Oh no! That's so awful! Maybe you should assault them - that would teach them, right? It's disgusting that you're taking this elitist view. If you pass some kids who don't know about the books or who haven't been following the development of the movie and who wrote the screenplay and whatnot, why not just give them a friendly tap on the shoulder and tell them? Why be an arrogant asshole about it?
Arrogance like yours astounds me. The books are good but they're not some sort of holy tome that a person must have read in order to be considered even somewhat a functioning member of society. Remember there are probably plenty of classic pieces of literature that you've never read and are not familiar with. If someone made a movie based on one of these works, would you want some guy directing bitterness at you rather than just saying simple like, "If you liked that, you should check out the movie."
Grow up for fuck's sake. And yes, they sell plastic swords. Kids like plastic swords. I'm sorry if that's horrifying to you but you should probably based your religion on a piece of work that hasn't become so embedded in pop culture.
"If we ever want to get to a point where we don't hear constant stories about how gaming influences murderers or makes people violent, reclusive, horny old men, these games will have to stop coming out...or possibly become so mainstream that no one blinks at DOA Extreme Nude Hockey"
Okay, so let's assume he was referring to violent video games that are over the top and have substantial lacking in gameplay, as you seem to assume. Why do they need to stop coming out? To silence people who claim there is a link between violent games and violent behavior? That's just silly. Why not let the free market determine what should and shouldn't be released rather than trying to make some proclamation that these games should not be released.
I began to read that first paragraph you wrote and realized that I had no interest whatsoever in discussing how to make a better experience in a MMORPG. No offense to you or anyone who plays those things BUT I just can't bring myself to care that much. I'm sure the whole system could be modified in the way you described or the way I described or whatever. Of course, the issue arising out of that is that probably you're going to get just as much complaining as ever. It seems like a lot of the people who are loud-mouthed braggarts online are drawn to MMORPGs and thus will complain about all aspects of the game, however implemented. Draw your own conclusions about how they are in real life. [Uh oh, this post is shifting into being a troll, as diagnosed by Slashdot moderators who love bringing the online pain down on people!]
Anyway, as for the football game point, which I have an interest in, I think there is room for both types of games. I have not played the new NFL Street from EA but I can tell you that I enjoy playing both NBA Street and ESPN NBA Basketball - fun arcade style vs. simulation.
Perhaps you do not recall the 2000 Election [I know filthy liberal scum like yourself are both trying to forget and still continuing to focus on it], but Gore was absolutely demolished in the debates leading up to the election. His child-like snorts while President Bush was speaking and his overall inability to get a point with any meaning out.
Go ahead, keep making your sad little insults of the President. Four more years - guaranteed.
Why is it dangerous for EA to have marketing power? The fact is that just because you're a big company, you're not guaranteed sales in the video game industry. Sure, Madden is consistently a big seller but if the quality began to deteriorate, don't you think people would buy a different game? Comparing EA to Microsoft is quite a stretch. Microsoft locks people in to their software by phasing out tech support, pushing competitors out of the market and other underhanded techniques.
You claim that the only reason Battlefield 1942 "stays alive" is because EA markets it well. Do you actually believe that? In this age where you can get dozens of opinions of a product from the Internet at a moment's notice, do you actually believe people are buying Battlefield 1942 just because they see some ads for it? Why are Battlefield 1942 quite popular then? Wouldn't people abandon the game once they realized that it wasn't good?
Your argument is flawed. I could continue but this should be enough.
No buddy! I wasn't being sarcastic about the taverns. They exist and are all around you! They're not even hard to locate. Do you have a phone book? I'll help you locate one.
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You know, I bet wherever you live, there are taverns within a reasonable distance. Inside those taverns, there are people. Why don't you go there, make some friends, and order some beer?
5 random events seem far from the movies? What event are you basing this on? And how do quests make this any more reasonable?
Looking at it, the movies really don't have that much in the way of how a Jedi is selected to become a Jedi. The only characters from the movies whose training has been portrayed is Anakin and Luke; Luke was mainly selected because of family lineage and events far out of his control demanding that he train AND Anakin was selected to be trainined because of his high level of forceness in his blood. Both of these situations seem quite random to me - I mean, you certainly don't pick your family lineage. Would you rather that in the game when you created a character, there was a random number generator employed to determine whether you had the appropriate inclination to become a Jedi? I mean, if you're basing it on the movies - that seems the most like the movies. Anakin and Luke both picked to become a Jedi but two events out of their control had to occur first - they had to be born with that special Jedi specialness and a Jedi had to be introduced to them so that they could be located and picked - in the Star Wars universe, Jedi are quite rare. If you make it, complete a set of quests and there's no randomness to it, then everyone would become a Jedi.
Harry and David? Come on - have you eaten anything from that chain? It's not good. And not only is it not good, it's expensive too. Sure, in American society we often pay for the product and the prestige of the label but if I'm going to do that, the product had better be damn good. I've found that the food from Harry and David is sub-par, to put it tastefully.
Aren't there any web forums for runners? I mean, if you don't know anyone who wants to go running you could always just seek out new people. I'd bet that there's got to be runner's circles or whatnot. Another way that I meet people to run or play sports with is to just go to the gym. If you get a gym membership, you're guaranteed to meet people who are active and you can also sign up for leagues or whatnot, if that's your thing. But definitely you'll be able to find people to go running with.
Where are you getting this idea? We'll focus on football since that was the example you wanted to use. You say, "It would seem that this might be a last generation to play or watch football"; why would it seem that way? Because the NFL has the largest media contract of any professional sport in the U.S.? Because the EA and Sega football games are consistent best-sellers? I honestly see no reason you can draw the conclusion you have drawn. Football is thriving.
I think it's just a matter of finding the right people. I wouldn't say that there's an entire generation where the majority does not want to play sports or enjoy physical activity. My roommates and I frequently go down to the park and play a pick-up game and then come home and play some video games. It's just a matter of finding the right kind of people; moderation in all things.
Here's my guess: you don't want to play sports at all. And I'd further guess that you're not a fan of seeing sports on television or going to the ballpark and watching a game. I mean, why go watch someone else play when you could just as easily go play yourself?
The point of all this is when you appreciate the game and take a real interest in the game [let's say football, just so the argument can be fleshed out fully], you enjoy seeing people who are far better than you playing it and exceling at it. Likewise, when you can simulate the game and actually use your plays and formations, it's exciting. I mean, why do people play the Sims? Certainly they can make food, eat it, then forget to go to the bathroom and soil the ground, right? But people enjoy it as an outlet. Now I don't know what games you like so please respond with your favorite types of games and I will continue this discussion.
They bypass a lot of the PC games that are released because they don't sell. You think if EBGames suddenly had a huge stock of educational titles, they'd be the top sellers?
EB stocks what sells. Go ahead and believe that the PC Games market is thriving and it's all because of the packaging that EB doesn't care about PC Games anymore - if that's what you need to do.
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You could go out and buy yourself wireless controllers. Other than those wires, the power and A/V plugs should be able to be routed through the back of any reasonable entertainment center furniture.
Let's see, what other FUD are you spreading? "Consoles will draw away the fuckwits?" Why? You give no valid reason why this statement is true. 90% of the population is of limited intellect, based on my experiences. Without giving a reason for your above statement, I might guess that you're not in the 10%. And not only do you not offer a reason why the "fuckwits" are being drawn to the console games, you actually refute it in the next two sentences. That's a hell of a way to make an argument son.
In short, it seems odd that anyone would take such a stance as you have. I enjoy playing online games for both the PS2 and for my PC.
As for the content thing - you offer no numbers to back up your claim. I would guess that the majority of people playing multiplayer online games are playing either original games [with only patches from the company being used] or professionally released mods - a la Counterstrike. You have no numbers to back up your belief that modded games are where everyone plays so, yet again, your point is not made. Better luck next time.
Why didn't you steal the PDA as well? That would put your total cost of ownership at $0.
If you wouldn't make such remarks in real life, why make them in an online and public forum?
I think you owe me an apology for the rude tone you took with me when you've been so logically inconsistent in your posts.
i may preview next time.
Come on, if you don't like the fact that people haven't been told about the books enough, why is it "MORONIC" for someone to be unaware of the books? Answer that please.
And what is that hardware tough guy? IT'S A COMPUTER!!!
Oh my god, there are kids who have watched the movie and don't know about the books! Oh no! That's so awful! Maybe you should assault them - that would teach them, right? It's disgusting that you're taking this elitist view. If you pass some kids who don't know about the books or who haven't been following the development of the movie and who wrote the screenplay and whatnot, why not just give them a friendly tap on the shoulder and tell them? Why be an arrogant asshole about it?
Arrogance like yours astounds me. The books are good but they're not some sort of holy tome that a person must have read in order to be considered even somewhat a functioning member of society. Remember there are probably plenty of classic pieces of literature that you've never read and are not familiar with. If someone made a movie based on one of these works, would you want some guy directing bitterness at you rather than just saying simple like, "If you liked that, you should check out the movie."
Grow up for fuck's sake. And yes, they sell plastic swords. Kids like plastic swords. I'm sorry if that's horrifying to you but you should probably based your religion on a piece of work that hasn't become so embedded in pop culture.
There's no need for another crappy e-book standard because we already have one? Well, how about a non-crappy e-book standard?
Anyway, as for the football game point, which I have an interest in, I think there is room for both types of games. I have not played the new NFL Street from EA but I can tell you that I enjoy playing both NBA Street and ESPN NBA Basketball - fun arcade style vs. simulation.
Go ahead, keep making your sad little insults of the President. Four more years - guaranteed.
You claim that the only reason Battlefield 1942 "stays alive" is because EA markets it well. Do you actually believe that? In this age where you can get dozens of opinions of a product from the Internet at a moment's notice, do you actually believe people are buying Battlefield 1942 just because they see some ads for it? Why are Battlefield 1942 quite popular then? Wouldn't people abandon the game once they realized that it wasn't good?
Your argument is flawed. I could continue but this should be enough.
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We'll work on your joke-telling ability later.
Looking at it, the movies really don't have that much in the way of how a Jedi is selected to become a Jedi. The only characters from the movies whose training has been portrayed is Anakin and Luke; Luke was mainly selected because of family lineage and events far out of his control demanding that he train AND Anakin was selected to be trainined because of his high level of forceness in his blood. Both of these situations seem quite random to me - I mean, you certainly don't pick your family lineage. Would you rather that in the game when you created a character, there was a random number generator employed to determine whether you had the appropriate inclination to become a Jedi? I mean, if you're basing it on the movies - that seems the most like the movies. Anakin and Luke both picked to become a Jedi but two events out of their control had to occur first - they had to be born with that special Jedi specialness and a Jedi had to be introduced to them so that they could be located and picked - in the Star Wars universe, Jedi are quite rare. If you make it, complete a set of quests and there's no randomness to it, then everyone would become a Jedi.
Harry and David? Come on - have you eaten anything from that chain? It's not good. And not only is it not good, it's expensive too. Sure, in American society we often pay for the product and the prestige of the label but if I'm going to do that, the product had better be damn good. I've found that the food from Harry and David is sub-par, to put it tastefully.
Aren't there any web forums for runners? I mean, if you don't know anyone who wants to go running you could always just seek out new people. I'd bet that there's got to be runner's circles or whatnot. Another way that I meet people to run or play sports with is to just go to the gym. If you get a gym membership, you're guaranteed to meet people who are active and you can also sign up for leagues or whatnot, if that's your thing. But definitely you'll be able to find people to go running with.
Where are you getting this idea? We'll focus on football since that was the example you wanted to use. You say, "It would seem that this might be a last generation to play or watch football"; why would it seem that way? Because the NFL has the largest media contract of any professional sport in the U.S.? Because the EA and Sega football games are consistent best-sellers? I honestly see no reason you can draw the conclusion you have drawn. Football is thriving.
I think it's just a matter of finding the right people. I wouldn't say that there's an entire generation where the majority does not want to play sports or enjoy physical activity. My roommates and I frequently go down to the park and play a pick-up game and then come home and play some video games. It's just a matter of finding the right kind of people; moderation in all things.
The point of all this is when you appreciate the game and take a real interest in the game [let's say football, just so the argument can be fleshed out fully], you enjoy seeing people who are far better than you playing it and exceling at it. Likewise, when you can simulate the game and actually use your plays and formations, it's exciting. I mean, why do people play the Sims? Certainly they can make food, eat it, then forget to go to the bathroom and soil the ground, right? But people enjoy it as an outlet. Now I don't know what games you like so please respond with your favorite types of games and I will continue this discussion.
EB stocks what sells. Go ahead and believe that the PC Games market is thriving and it's all because of the packaging that EB doesn't care about PC Games anymore - if that's what you need to do.
I'm done replying to you.
Now that I think about it, wasn't there some really bad Aerosmith-branded software that came out in the mid to late 90's that tried to teach?