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Best and Worst Books of 2003?

Thousandstars writes "I saw the article on the best and worst movies of 2003, and, being a literature geek, I thought it would also be appropriate to ask for the best and worst books of 2003. In fiction, Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver is toward the top of my best list. How about everyone else?"

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  1. My favorite: by Guano_Jim · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought the Lord of the Rings series was a great set of books. I can't wait for someone to make a movie out of it.

    1. Re:My favorite: by turangalila · · Score: 1

      Steven Pinker's "The Blank Slate".

    2. Re:My favorite: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1 redundant -1 unfunny ============ -2 total

    3. Re:My favorite: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't wait for someone to make a movie of it which doesn't substitute rotoscoping for acting, as in the case of Cate Blanchett's "performance", which could have been SO MUCH BETTER if Jackson had let her give one. Or if the actor who played Bilbo had been allowed to let the greed and suspicion and anger creep across his face, rather than having his face animated into a snarly-toothed growl.

      I'm all for special effects, but to use them at the expense of possibly getting good performances from your actors is a crime.

  2. Definitely Lord of the Rings by AltImage · · Score: 2, Funny

    The LOTR trilogy gets my vote. Very faithful to teh movies.

    1. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFS. It says books of 2003 .

    2. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know, I didn't like that Tom Bombadil character they added in there. It was clearly just an attempt to pander to the female and homosexual audience, what with all the dancing and show tunes.

      I say, if you're not going to write the book 100% faithful to the movie, don't write the book at all!

    3. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFP. It is a joke .

    4. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you just hear a whooshing sound over your head? That was the joke.

    5. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by ramdac · · Score: 1

      Hahaha, Jesus this is so funny.

      I haven't laughed so hard at a /. thread in a long while.

      By the way, I loved Tom Bombadil. I was sad that he wasn't in the movie =/

      Not to mention, I wanted to see an tree eat a hobbit. =(

    6. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by pardey · · Score: 1

      Four words: Two Towers Extended Edition. Lots of cool additional scenes in that one... Cheers.

    7. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A rather stupid and unfunny one at that.

    8. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing about Bombadil in TTT SEE, no.

    9. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FOTR: Extended Edition

    10. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Tom Bombadillo isn't in there, but you do see Pippin (or is it Merry? Damn, I can never keep those two straight) get sucked into the tree roots in Fangorn Forest. Wait, actually, now that I think about it, both hobbits get sucked under the roots.

    11. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by ashkar · · Score: 1

      Modded up as Funny, but more appropriate would be (Score:5, Sad and Depressing). Having great charachters left out and the one's left in watered down to shadows of their former selves ruined my enjoyment of the movies. Even as great as the movies were, the changes to the stories and the horrible treatment of the major charachters kept me from having even a little bit of fun. I might be over-reacting, but I think Tolkien would be disappointed too.

    12. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neither. No Bombadil in the movies.

    13. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by greenhide · · Score: 1

      Wow, they put the Tom Bobadil scene in the Two Towers?

      I guess everyone who says that the movies don't represent the books very well was right.

      And how did they manage to get all the hobbits together again? Must of been some kind of magic recall spell.

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    14. Re:Definitely Lord of the Rings by magfrump · · Score: 1

      I agree wholeheartedly. Tom Bombadil was my favorite character in the series, and (as was pointed out elsewhere, I think on this site) reveals a lot about the nature of middle earth, and of the ring. by the way, it occurs to me that the entire series should be exempt anyways, as it was written in the 50's/60's, and the topic is best books of 2003.

  3. Quicksilver by elhondo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    is at the top of my Best AND Worst list.

    1. Re:Quicksilver by blighter · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'm with you on Quicksilver being a Worst.

      I've loved me some Stephenson in the past but this thing was just ridiculous. Bought it the day it came out and still haven't finished it.

      It was the long, long history-lesson-style monologue by Shaftoe's brother immediately followed by a second chapter of Waterhouse presented as a period-style drama that did me in.

      I've only got like 120 pages left (out of what felt like several thousand when reading) so maybe I'll finish it. But reading novels shouldn't feel like an uphill battle, you know?

    2. Re:Quicksilver by thatnerdguy · · Score: 1, Funny

      I'm with you on that. It took me the better part of two months to finish that book. Near the end, I couldn't wait to finish, I was just tired of it. Also, most of the time it didn't seem like the story was going anywhere.
      Of course, I am still eagerly awaiting the next novels in the Baroque series (any word on when they are expected?)

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    3. Re:Quicksilver by bentfork · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was stuck at around the same point as you were for about a month. ( around the sand-sailing ).

      I took another run at it a few days ago and was pleased to find out that the plot picked up one page later.

      Stephenson books tend to reward the persistent reader. I remember having to convince friends not to burn cryptonomicon after reading the first 200 pages... Keep reading, its worth it... ;)

      Same advice for the last 200 pages of this one.

    4. Re:quicksilver by m00by · · Score: 1

      it's part one of a three part series, it's not going to go out with a bang. that's what book three is for :) and I did quite enjoy it, although I was also disappointed in the ending to snow crash. =D

    5. Re:Quicksilver by dr_dank · · Score: 1

      I remember having to convince friends not to burn cryptonomicon after reading the first 200 pages

      Cryptonomicon didn't string you along like Quicksilver does. Granted, Cryptonomicon had a bit of a snooze as a setup, but the ensuing WW2 action ensured that I couldn't put it down. I'm 200+ pages into it (I bought it the day it came out and agree with the uphill battle comparision mentioned above) and it feels like no end is in sight.

      I think Stephenson pushes the reader in each book to see how much fluff they'll put up with.

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    6. Re:Quicksilver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, Kevin Bacon riding around on a 10-speed sure makes for a crappy book/movie.

    7. Re:Quicksilver by Onan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm about as enthusiastic a Stephenson fan as they come; I have a hand-xerox'd copy of The Big U, _and_ actually enjoyed reading it. I set my alarm to wake up early and pick up a copy of Quicksilver on my way to work the day it was released.

      And I found it to be the most pitiful drek I've picked up in years. I never officially gave up on it, but I put it down around page 300 and haven't picked it back up in some months.

      Dozens of completely interchangeable and personality-free "characters" would be problematic enough if they weren't all referred to variously by their given names, their surnames, their titles, their ranks, their relationships to other faceless characters, and various ribald nicknames. I probably couldn't be bothered to keep this bland cast straight in my head even if they only had one name each, but giving them all half a dozen names just made the problem exponentially worse.

      Having historical characters make predictions about the future which are either ironically accurate or comically inaccurate has no place outside horrid sitcoms. ("This 'tay' is fascinating, but I cannot imagine the English ever being interested in something so strange.")

      The story was clearly intended to be tiered between the obvious, surface-level events, and the occluded, mysterious events driving them, which needed to be inferred by subtle cues. But the supposedly-obvious events were so dependant on endless tiny details of this moment and place in history that they were _also_ occluded, mysterious, and needed to be inferred by subtle details. It's possible that a specialist in post-Cromwell London wouldn't find this troublesome, but my slightly-better-than-average knowledge of the period was quite insufficient for the task.

      And, most damningly, just when there was starting to be the vaguest hint that there might actually turn out to be the possibility of an actual plot somewhere on the horizon--that your effort slogging through hundreds of pages of drivel might be rewarded with something actually _happening_--he drops it all and starts over from the whole sodding beginning with an entirely unrelated set of characters.

    8. Re:quicksilver by Onan · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah, Stephenson can't end a book to save his life. Fantastic author, but endings have always been his weakness. They all come off feeling like they could've ended a hundred pages earlier or later with exactly the same effect.

    9. Re:Quicksilver by elhondo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I too bought it the day it came out, and finally managed to finish it the other day. Cryptonomicon on the other hand, took me less than a week. Well, I reached the last page anyway; the book doesn't end in any meaningful way, it just runs out of pages. Some of it is great. As with all of Stephenson's books, I learned a thing or two on accident, but man, there was a lot of space between the good points. One critic stated in his review that it was obvious that Neal needed an editor, and that editor needed a machete. It's a good point.

    10. Re:Quicksilver by jathos · · Score: 1

      That's good to know -- I'm also stuck at ~page 300. The story is SO DAMN SLOW. I was mildly interested by the Waterhouse story in Part I, but this Jack Shaftoe crap is extremely boring.

    11. Re:Quicksilver by Bob+MacSlack · · Score: 1

      It was the long, long history-lesson-style monologue by Shaftoe's brother immediately followed by a second chapter of Waterhouse presented as a period-style drama that did me in.

      I think this sort of thing is one of the reasons I've enjoyed this book so much(so far, about 200 pages left). I just find it interesting the different ways he presents parts of the story. I will admit to not being too sure about this one after the first 150 pages or so, but it has definitely grabbed and held my interest since.

      I've been doing a lot of catch up reading of Stephenson and Gibson this year. I'd have to say my favorite has been Zodiac, and the rest I won't bother trying to put in order.

    12. Re:Quicksilver by blighter · · Score: 1
      Thanks for the advice, perhaps this will be the inspiration that I need to finally finish it off.

      I'm definitely going to hold off on buying the second two in the cycle until I either recover a jones for Stephenson or hear great things. It's a shame too because most everything else he wrote I really like.

    13. Re:Quicksilver by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I'm 200+ pages into it (I bought it the day it came out and agree with the uphill battle comparision mentioned above) and it feels like no end is in sight.

      Worse yet, Stephenson never seem to leave enough room at the end of the book to tie things up - you suddenly realise there's only six pages left under your right thumb, and there's no possible way the story can be wrapped up in time. I felt this way about Snowcrash and Cryptonomicon. I have seen a friend literally throw Cryptonomicon down after realising this same point while reading it. Has this problem been solved in Quicksilver?

      However, if you want an uphill novel battle experience that will never ever end, I suggest Atlas Shrugged. I read in response to a criticism that I should read it all the way through before bashing it, and that bastard stole nine months of my life.

      YLFI
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    14. Re:Quicksilver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Quicksilver is at the top of my Best AND Worst list.

      So you only read one book?

    15. Re:Quicksilver by asmdsr · · Score: 1, Informative

      This may not change your mind, but here's some info you might have missed:

      I probably couldn't be bothered to keep this bland cast straight in my head even if they only had one name each, but giving them all half a dozen names just made the problem exponentially worse

      I'm not sure if you noticed, but the 'Dramatis Personae' section at the back of the book explains exactly this issue, and includes an index of the characters and titles.

      I put it down around page 300 and haven't picked it back up in some months...

      ...he drops it all and starts over from the whole sodding beginning with an entirely unrelated set of characters


      Maybe you should read the rest of the book before you make claims about which plots have been dropped and which characters are 'entirely unrelated'.

      cheers
      Tim

    16. Re:Quicksilver by Onan · · Score: 1

      If one has consulted the table of contents in order to be aware that it's there (an unusual requirement for a novel), then the Dramatis Personae can be somewhat helpful. But even it is an awkward tool, and more burdensome than this generally-unpleasant book seems to justify.

      And yes, obviously I haven't read two thirds of the work, and it seems reasonable to assume that the originally-disparate characters will be tied together in some way. But the idea that I'd probably need to slog through _another_ three or four hundred pages of exposition regarding a new set of characters before having any hope of an actual plot is just too tiresome to contemplate actually doing.

      Please understand, my complaint is not that the book is long or that it's complicated. It's of a perfectly reasonable length for a book; just not for _this_ book.

      Reading many pages and correlating many small facts is a happy task when the book gives you anything in return for it. Compelling characters, fascinating ideas, stirring relationships, exciting developments, these make the process of reading and thinking about the text a joy. But Quicksilver offers none of these, leaving me exactly as satisfied as if I'd read the white pages and attempted to keep straight who lived where.

    17. Re:Quicksilver by kjd · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean. I found the story very interesting, but the presentation was awkward difficult to swallow at times (and I tend to enjoy his long-windedness in other novels).

    18. Re:Quicksilver by LazyBoy · · Score: 1

      Ditto. I loved Cryptonomicon and most of his earlier works. I was chafing for Q to come out, got it on the first day, and got less than 100 pages into it before I put it down to read something else. I haven't gone back to it yet.

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    19. Re:Quicksilver by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, but I was distracted from reading the rest of your excellent post temporarily by a very shiny thing:

      I have a hand-xerox'd copy of The Big U...

      For the Love of Mike, could you please, please scan and OCR that and post it somewhere!? Heck, I'd do the OCR on it if I could just get scans of it.

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    20. Re:Quicksilver by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      mail me and i'll email you a copy. slashdot AT infobubble.co.uk

    21. Re:Quicksilver by ideonode · · Score: 1

      You may not know this, but The Big U was re-released in 2001 and still in print. Amazon.co.uk has it, as will your favorite bookstore.

    22. Re:Quicksilver by sapbasisnerd · · Score: 1

      Those that burned Cryptonomicon after the first 200 pages are the lucky ones. It presents some interesting potential as an unedited manuscript but as a supposedly finished book it's crud. Either it was not editied at all, edited by a complete boob or the author ignored his editor. There's potentially a really good 500 page novel in there but some pretty hard slogging to find it. I won't even get into the issue of the technical errors on the grounds that this is fiction after all...

  4. Fiction by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd like to nominate the SCO court filings for best work of fiction...and worst work of fiction.

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    1. Re:Fiction by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      I think you could split the award evenly... give the court filings the Worst, and Darryl's PR screeds the Best - he's truly revived the fantasy genre!

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  5. Votes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How about the Divinci Code?

    And of course The Art of Unix Programming

    1. Re:Votes by TrueBuckeye · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the Fiction book of the year has to be DaVinci Code. Not only has it sat on the NYT bestseller's list for an ungodly number of weeks (I believe since May it has been in the top 10 every week, including #1 again this week), but I don't know that I've seen a book which has gotten a hold of so many people's imagination the way this has.

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    2. Re:Votes by shystershep · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IMHO the DaVinci Code was good, but not great. For a much, much better book (also by Dan Brown) try Angels and Demons. I don't know if it was published this year (& therefore 'eligible'), but I found it better in every way than the DaVinci Code -- more (and better) science, more (and just as interesting) symbology, and just as much historical basis with tons of little tidbits that make you go 'hmm.'

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    3. Re:Votes by Triv · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The DaVinci is...well, it's clever, but that's about it. It's a cute idea, sure, but the characters are one dimentional and wooden, the writing leaves absolutely no room for interpretation. It's a solid read, sure, but Best Books of 2003? Meh. Not for me. YMMV, of course.

      Triv

    4. Re:Votes by tsmccaff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course, Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco covers similar ground. Its definitely a better book, not as accessable as Da Vinci Code, but Eco's writing is always joyous and laden with fascinating information.

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    5. Re:Votes by Xoro · · Score: 1

      DaVinci Code? Nah. The book is a lot less interesting if you're already familiar with the source material. The cool twists and conspiracies are directly lifted from the earlier works of eminent fake historians and simply repackaged in a cheesy cardboard thriller plot.

      Which kind of irritated me. When I read Holy Blood, Holy Grail, the first thing I thought was "Damn, this stuff would have made a great cheesy cardboard thriller. Too bad these guys used the material first." Then some guy goes and rewrites it as one and makes a mint. Grrr. Shamelessness pays.

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    6. Re:Votes by Dausha · · Score: 1

      Not only has it sat on the NYT bestseller's list for an ungodly number of weeks

      Just because a book shows up on the best seller list does not mean it is a good book. I mean, everybody may be buying it, but that just may be the Lemming Effect in play.

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    7. Re:Votes by alkali · · Score: 1

      Both books are based on Baigent and Leigh's Holy Blood, Holy Grail, a work of purported nonfiction which will blow your mind for a couple of hours until you realize it's all batsh*t insane. I recommend it over either novel on the theory that it's best to drink directly from the tinfoil hat spring.

    8. Re:Votes by Mr_Huber · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Eco's description of the church door near the beginning of _The Name of the Rose_ is one of my all-time favorite pieces of descriptive writing. It simultaneously serves to describe a door, comment on the state of theology at the time of the story, create the atmosphere and character of the monestary and demonstrait the character of the observer.

    9. Re:Votes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eco represents Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln in _Foucault's Pendulum_ as Belbo, Diotallevi, and Casaubon. I would recommend reading both books, as they are both written very well.

    10. Re:Votes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the obvious sound bite. Lighten up and enjoy a book for once.

    11. Re:Votes by kubrick · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I love their method... each chapter is a series of "and what if... and what if... and then what if...".

      By the next chapter, of course, the contents of the preceding chapter are considered gospel truth, and the tower of falsehoods that results is truly astounding.

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    12. Re:Votes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously? I have a strong feeling Dan Brown is cribbing his books' plots from Robert Anton Wilson - but anyhow, Angels and Demons needs to be recognised for the two following quotes:

      "Bavarian Illuminati : New World Order by Steve Jackson Computer Games, half the techies here are playing it on the Internet"

      and

      "They have a particle accelerator at CERN?"

  6. The Last Goobye... by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My worst reading for 2003 was: The Last Goodbye

    I received the book to review ahead of time... It was absolutely terrible. I don't know about the rest of the world but I am not into reading books written as if I was reading at a third grade level (ie Stephen King's latest works). Trying to be bio-tech and computer savvy when you aren't just does not work.

    I was also irked by the author's apparent need to mention the race of the characters in the novel. It was almost as if he was trying to point out that it is possible for those of color to become lawyers and famous musicians (duh). Let the read imagine whatever they like about the characters don't shove it in their face.

    Just my worthless .02,

    1. Re:The Last Goobye... by Mantorp · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't know about the rest of the world but I am not into reading books written as if I was reading at a third grade level (ie Stephen King's latest works).

      Seeing that Stephen King is one of the most popular authors of our time I'd say most of the world disagree with you. All in all a pretty elitist thing to say. I'm not a huge fan but some of his books are really excellent in my opinion. But, I guess it's not cool to like a popular author.

    2. Re:The Last Goobye... by notbob · · Score: 0

      Nobody ever said the public was intelligent....

      if they were would we really have this government?

    3. Re:The Last Goobye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      While you are entitled to your opinion it is far from elitest... His first novels were entertaining to me (It, The Stand, various others). Recently his works have been boring, slow, and poorly written. Perhaps when I was reading It and The Stand I felt that they were better because I was younger (11 or 12 I guess). Perhaps with age and experience they have less literary value?

      Are you confused to think that what the rest of the world sees as good for itself is? It seems that the general public care to watch "Reality TV" instead of documentaries. Which of those two types of programs do you think are more real?

    4. Re:The Last Goobye... by Moofie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or, the poster might be opining that King's work has gone downhill. Dreamcatcher was a conspicuous exception, but much of King's stuff from the last 10 years or so has been really poor. In my opinion.

      But I guess it's cool to suppose that other people are being contrary just for contrary's sake.

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    5. Re:The Last Goobye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you might want to read this. Remember that the books you read, the wine you drink, the music you listen to, or the OS you use aren't you.

    6. Re:The Last Goobye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stephen King has stated time and again not to look for any literary value in his stories. It's not there. They are just stories. Some are very good reads. Others are not so good. Deal with it.

    7. Re:The Last Goobye... by RedCard · · Score: 1

      Remember that the books you read, the wine you drink, the music you listen to, or the OS you use aren't you

      Then, may I ask, what is 'you'?

      It would seem to me that a person is defined based on their own internal thought processes as manifest in actions.

      The only things that a person can present to other people are their own likes, dislikes, choices, and actions.

      Therefore your choices and actions very much define you as a person, both to yourself and to others.

      Therefore your books/wine/music/os really do define part of yourself.

      Combined with your link to a book on snobbery, I think that you think that you're "above it all" (whatever that means). Unless you're attempting to be ironic, but I don't think that was your aim.

    8. Re:The Last Goobye... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      In his defence, while Stephen King has written some AMAZING stories, they are by no means high literature. The sentance structure and plot pacing are a uniform and uninteresting as a third grade primer. Of course, nobody said you needed to write yourself into a corner to produce an exciting book...some of King's work, such as "The Eyes of the Dragon" and "The Stand," are quite elegant in their simplicity. The Stand in particular stands out as one of the few books in excess of 600 pages that you can easily read on an evening, never have to look up a word, and still not be insulted by.

      You've got to love that!

      I feel the same about Chuck Palaniuk. Great storyteller and somebody who really has his finger up the ass of the angry anti-consumer culture american youth. But god, his writing is the worst! He can't even stay in TENSE, for christ's sake. If he were one of my students (I teach written discourse, essay writing and personal narratives), I'd fail him...and send him down the hall to the Masters in Creative Literature class, where he'd blow their tiny minds.

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    9. Re:The Last Goobye... by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      Are you questioning the movie Fight Club? First rule of Slashdot: You do not talk negatively about Fight Club.

      ^_^

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    10. Re:The Last Goobye... by urmensch · · Score: 1

      Dreamcatcher was *not* an exception. It was the most boring book about flatuence I've ever read!

    11. Re:The Last Goobye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're either a non-native speaker of the language, or your grammar and spelling are horrible.

      Either way, you're not really qualified to be criticizing Stephen King, regardless of how much he's slipped recently.

    12. Re:The Last Goobye... by bugbread · · Score: 1
      "I don't know about the rest of the world but I am not into reading books written as if I was reading at a third grade level (ie Stephen King's latest works)."

      "Seeing that Stephen King is one of the most popular authors of our time I'd say most of the world disagree with you."

      True.

      "All in all a pretty elitist thing to say."

      Maybe. Is it "being an elitist" to disagree with the majority? If so, we need more elitists. I wasn't aware that conformity was such a highly prized goal.

      "But, I guess it's not cool to like a popular author."

      I don't see the connection.

      Most of the world is composed of idiots. I'll play the asshole's advocate and point out the numbers: Half the world has below average intelligence, half the world has above average intelligence. People posting on slashdot (for the most part, not everyone) has appreciably above average intelligence. Therefore, statistically, the parent poster is probably smarter than the majority of people in the world. Sure, he's being elitist, but he's also elite, so he may be right, and he may be wrong. Or, more likely, his personal literary tastes cause him to view Stephen King's writings as bad, and your personal philosophical tastes seem to view people who dislike popular things as bad.

      I personally think Stephen King is an incredible bore. Great short stories, though. And it has nothing to do with popularity. Some popular things are good, and some are bad. Or, better phrased, I like some popular things, and dislike some. So do you. So does the parent. We just tend to say "bad" or "good" instead. That doesn't mean that the parent was right or wrong, nor does it make him elitist. It's just his tastes, and your tastes. Drawing popularity into it is a non-issue. My opinion only, of course.
    13. Re:The Last Goobye... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is the world disagreeing with the grandparent? Stephen King does write at level which most people can comprehend, hence the "3rd grade reading level comment". He is just saying that he likes reading stuff that challenges his mind more, like perhaps Shakespeare.

      Of course Shakespeare wrote for the masses of his time, so maybe in 400 years, he'll like King.

    14. Re:The Last Goobye... by Mantorp · · Score: 1
      The poster is not elitist for disagreeing with the majority but for insinuating that reading Stephen King is for people who read at a third grade level.

      Off topic, but at what grade level do you learn subjunctive mood? Presumably one the poster hasn't reached yet. And, I think an e.g. would have fit better than an ie.
      See, I too can be elitist and arrogant.

      /. as a whole thrives on disliking what's mainstream and popular, the Matrix and LotR notable exceptions. Sometimes it gets to be a bit much, not everything mainstream is bad.

    15. Re:The Last Goobye... by bugbread · · Score: 1

      Point taken. I guess what I mean to say is simply that not everyone who happens to dislike something mainstream does so because it's mainstream.

    16. Re:The Last Goobye... by bugbread · · Score: 1

      And thanks for the grammar points. Right on about the subjunctive mood, and I realized upon reading that I don't even know the difference between ie. and e.g., so it's time to look at Mr. Dictionary.

    17. Re:The Last Goobye... by Mantorp · · Score: 1

      English isn't my native language so I may have had an unfair advantage.

    18. Re:The Last Goobye... by bugbread · · Score: 1

      Hehe.

      By the way, (very offtopic) I realized that you were the one who mentioned bubbles floating downwards in Guiness. Someone pointed out that antibubbles are bubbles formed by a membrane of air surrounding more liquid. However, one of the links in the thread to an explanation of antibubbles pointed out that, while this is true, antibubbles tend to float downwards, so it looks like you were both right.

    19. Re:The Last Goobye... by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      Popularity has very, very little to do with quality. Hell, McDonald's is a popular place to eat.

    20. Re:The Last Goobye... by Mantorp · · Score: 1

      Popularity has very, very little to do with quality.
      Agreed, but a common /. stance seems to be that popularity automatically means lacking in quality.

    21. Re:The Last Goobye... by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1

      I'd tend to agree with that, actually. If something's popular, that means that many--or most--people like it. Since most folks are pretty dumb, the odds are good that the things itself is pretty dumb. Not certain, of course: most people enjoy ice cream, and it's Good Stuff:-)

  7. Worst Book by canfirman · · Score: 2, Funny
    Eleven Chapters on Chapter Eleven

    I expect submissions from Daryl McBride soon. Hopefully I don't have to pay $699 for the book.

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    1. Re:Worst Book by BdosError · · Score: 0

      That's Darl McBride.

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  8. quicksilver by edmudama · · Score: 1

    Quicksilver was good... but it took me about 400 pages to get "into" the story, and the ending 100 pages dragged for all but the final two sentences.

    The book was good, but I wouldn't put it on my "best of" list. It ended with a soft fizzle the same as Snow Crash.

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  9. Havana - Stephen Hunter by kevin_conaway · · Score: 1

    Latest from the Swagger novels. I suggest starting with 'Hot Springs' and reading the entire series. He is a fantastic writer

  10. ESR's book by s390 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the non-fiction category, Eric S. Raymond's "The Art of Unix Programming" gets my vote. It's simply excellent.

    1. Re:ESR's book by red+floyd · · Score: 0

      Unix Network Programming, Vol I, Third Ed.

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    2. Re:ESR's book by kjd · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree. I picked this book up planning to skip through and read the interesting parts, but ended up digesting the whole thing from front to back in a couple days.

      Good reading for aspiring Unix hackers, or the experienced who enjoy reading insight from old-school Unix guys (Thompson, Ritchie, and several others pepper the book with their opinions throughout).

    3. Re:ESR's book by duffbeer703 · · Score: 1

      If you liked the book, read the short stories on his website!

      ESR actually believes that he is a norse king reborn, which accounts for his obnoxious and patronizing attitude.

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    4. Re:ESR's book by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Really, "Art of UNIX programming?" From ESR? I haven't seen it yet...is the cover art by Jackson Pollock?

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    5. Re:ESR's book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ESR can get enough action on his own. he doesn't need you sucking him off on here.

  11. china meiville by joeldg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    anything by him..

    author of "Perdido street station"..

    1. Re:china meiville by lxs · · Score: 1

      is this in the best or worst category?

    2. Re:china meiville by Quixote · · Score: 1
      The suspense is killing me... are you nominating him in the "best of" category, or the "worst of" category??

  12. Why it don't work like that by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Movies have a definitive time they are out and you usually go see them during that period.

    Books are much more flexible, you don't need to constrain yourself to a rigid schedule or anything. I usually go out a few times a year a pick several interesting books that I'll read as time allows me to. When deciding what to get, release date (that is, the 2003 books for example) is not even considered; I just search for interesting stuff or previously unknown stuff from interesting authors.

    But it may just be me.

    1. Re:Why it don't work like that by TrueBuckeye · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think it is just you. I'm right now reading The Chronicles of Narnia which I never got to when I was younger and they have lost nothing in the years between the writing and now. Books age much better than film. You can read Mary Shelley's Frankenstein today and still be engrossed, but many (not all) of the original movies seem at least childish, if not utterly laughable.

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    2. Re:Why it don't work like that by cduffy · · Score: 1

      Fully agreed.

      I just went by the bookstore earlier today and ended up passing by one of Connelly's latest (Lost Light) in favor of another from a few years ago. (Having read the first chapter, Lost Light was hard to put down -- but the $13 price at a discount book store where most titles are closer to $4 was just a bit much). Waiting for the softcover to come out and reading the book later just makes more sense from an economic perspective if nothing else.

    3. Re:Why it don't work like that by Zardoz44 · · Score: 1
      The point of this article is to give you guidance on the books that you may have missed during the course of the year, and give you something to add to your list of future reading material.

      As far as I can tell, movies are just as flexible as books. There are very few movies that are worth the theater cost, and even fewer of those that are justified in seeing on the big screen. You can go to the library in 10 years and pick up a DVD of a good movie that came out this year. This is the same as going to the library in 10 years and picking out a book that was published this year.

      I welcome Slashdot's best/worst polls. There's nothing better than these candid opinions to get an idea about what might be a good book/movie/etc... to add to my list for future reference.

  13. Hitler's Scientists by Skynet · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you are into history I recommend this book:

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/06 70 030759/qid=1072126966//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/002 -1914962-9961668?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

    Interesting perspective into the role of science in the Nazi regime with moral/philosophical undertones.

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    1. Re:Hitler's Scientists by Skynet · · Score: 1

      Oops here's a link.

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    2. Re:Hitler's Scientists by dema · · Score: 1

      I saw that at Barnes and Noble yesterday and REALLY wanted to pick it up, but I had promised myself was there only for xmas shopping :P I may have to grab that next time I'm there.

    3. Re:Hitler's Scientists by Skynet · · Score: 1

      It's REALLY good. Talks about the development of the atom bomb, the science of experimentation on the Jews, etc. I highly recommend!

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    4. Re:Hitler's Scientists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's also one about IBM and Nazi Germany

  14. Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked... by nebaz · · Score: 4, Informative

    I hate to say this, but the Crossroads of Twilight, the 10th Robert Jordan "Wheel of Time" book, really sucked. No major plot advancement has happened at all. Several pages are spent on one of the main characters taking a bath! It seems like in these books, time goes slower and slower. I think the series has gone downhill, since about the fifth book or so, but this one was really bad. I see no way for him to end the series in my life time, at this pace, with so many dangling plot threads, and a release cycle of one book every two years,

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  15. Pratchett is always good by quantax · · Score: 4, Informative

    Terry Pratchett's "Nightwatch" wasn't too bad, though it was not IMO as good as the previous 'Nightwatch' books such as "Guards! Guards!" and "Men of Arms", but it is definitely worth checking out if you're a Discworld fan. I haven't read "Monsterous Regiment" yet, anyone have an opinion on how that was?

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    1. Re:Pratchett is always good by mir · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I liked Nightwatch, it revisits some recurring characters in a rather clever way.
      Monsterous Regiment was not as good. It feels like Terry Pratchett released an alpha version of the book: lots of ideas and characters that could have been developped further but weren't. Overall a very frustrating book, quite below the usual level of the series.

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    2. Re:Pratchett is always good by elmegil · · Score: 3, Informative

      I enjoyed Monstrous Regiment quite a bit. I think Pratchett is starting to get less manic and silly as he slows down with age, and whether you like that or not is really going to be a matter of taste. I thought Night Watch was better than a few of his more recent outings (wasn't really hep on Hogfather, and Carpe Jugulum and The Fifth Elephant left me a little flat), as well as really liking The Truth. I think the stories where he mostly is covering new characters give him some more room to stretch, whereas a lot of the old characters are so thoroughly developed it's harder to use them to say something new. Which doesn't mean he can't and doesn't succeed at that, but just that unused characters can seem more fresh.

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    3. Re:Pratchett is always good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dalton McGuinty. He's an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet. (No I'm not from Ontario)

      I'm from Ontario. Compared to what McGuinty is really like your sig is a huge compliment.

      The voters in Canada are idiots. There's no other way to explain McGuinty winning and the Prime Cretin winning 3 times as he constantly claims the canadian people insignigicant compared to him.

    4. Re:Pratchett is always good by biendamon · · Score: 1

      I'm a sucker for Terry Pratchet, although I haven't had a chance to read Monsterous Regiment yet. The last one I read was The Wee Free Men, which was hillarious. When I read the battle cry "They can take our lives, but they canna take our trousers!" I just about wet myself.

    5. Re:Pratchett is always good by shalla · · Score: 1
      I just finished both Night Watch and Monstrous Regiment, and they were some of my favorite Discworld books. (For least favorites, see Soul Music and Moving Pictures.) Night Watch may have been my favorite of the whole series, actually. I found it to be much more serious and poignant than usual for Pterry. As someone else mentioned, it was a different way of looking at some of the characters you've gotten to know.

      Monstrous Regiment was just a fun romp. Not surprising in any manner, but definitely fun and full of puns. I may never look at socks the same way again.

    6. Re:Pratchett is always good by Tar-Palantir · · Score: 1

      I *loved* Night Watch. I think Terry Pratchett is, humor aside, an excellent writer, and I was delighted to read a more serious book by him. Not that I don't like the comedy, but NW instantly became my favorite Discworld novel.

      On the other hand, I hated Monstrous Regiment. It felt quite predictable to me (from the middle on, mainly), and the plot was, well, boring. Not at all what I've come to expect from Pratchett. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't even think it was especially funny.

    7. Re:Pratchett is always good by August_zero · · Score: 1

      I loved Nightwatch, though I still think that Fifth Elephant is my favorite Sam Vimes novel. Even a bad Partchett novel is a decent read.

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  16. Quicksilver? by cthrall · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Quicksilver was a cool book. However, IMHO it wasn't nearly as good as Cryptonomicon. Here's why:

    * The characters feel similar to those in Cryptonomicon (another crazy Shaftoe, Daniel Waterhouse is akin to the main character from Crypto).

    * One of the hardest things to do right when there are parallel plotlines is connect them in a flowing and lucid manner. Cryptonomicon did an excellent job of weaving the past and present together. In Quicksilver, we get large chunks of uninterrupted narration, but there's very little context switching. This left me a little bored at times.

    It really felt rushed, like there was a great book in there that needed more time to be distilled.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm going to read the next two volumes, I was just a little disappointed that Quicksilver didn't live up to the high standards Stephenson has set himself in previous books.

    1. Re:Quicksilver? by Syris · · Score: 1
      It really felt rushed,...

      That's the first time I've heard (read) anyone say anything like this about Quicksilver.

      Rushed!?!? The book is 900 pages long!

    2. Re:Quicksilver? by Onan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As Blaise Pascal put it (in French), "I have made this letter long only because I have not had time to make it shorter."

      It was certainly rushed, and a more thorough job might well have produced a shorter work. Stephenson seems to have a terrible time finishing it, pushing back deadlines again and again; the result would probably have been much better if he'd been able to push it back another year or two.

    3. Re:Quicksilver? by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hard to get the book together when you're writing it with a fucking quill pen.
      -russ

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    4. Re:Quicksilver? by jayhawk88 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Let me guess: the protagonists save the day by creating a giant lake of mercury?

      Cryptinomicron: Good book, but still the worst ending of all time.

    5. Re:Quicksilver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Oscar Wilde, said that.

      Why do people feel compelled to make up the source of a quote? If you don't know, just say so . We'll all respect you more.

    6. Re:Quicksilver? by Pius+II. · · Score: 2, Informative

      Googled for the quote, and it seems that a whole lot of people said that.
      Pascal, Goethe, Cicero...

    7. Re:Quicksilver? by dasunt · · Score: 1

      I forgave Quicksilver (for now) since its the beginning of the trilogy. Oh, and the bits about qw-whatever was spiffy.

      OTOH, I looked at the line I thought it would also be appropriate to ask for the best and worst books of 2003. In fiction, Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver is toward the top of my best list. How about everyone else?" and thought: Yep, I can understand classifying it as the best and the worst book of 2003.

    8. Re:Quicksilver? by Onan · · Score: 1

      Hah. Actually, I didn't know, so I asked google. Apparently the misconception is popular.

      Thanks for the correction.

    9. Re:Quicksilver? by topologist · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bartleby (channeling the Columbia Encyclopaedia) claims that Pascal did indeed say that, which agrees with my recollection.

    10. Re:Quicksilver? by smartin · · Score: 1

      The way you have to approach Stephenson's work is to enjoy the ride, don't necessarily look for an amazing tight plot (if you want that read Dan Brown). I'm about half way through Quicksilver and am loving it, i just sit there and laugh and laugh. I don't really know where it's going and quite frankly i don't really care.

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    11. Re:Quicksilver? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Neal Stephenson in fact did write Quicksilver using pen and paper. I think the first time it became digital was when the publisher took the longhand manuscript and typeset it.

    12. Re:Quicksilver? by jshark · · Score: 1, Interesting

      My 1/50th of a U.S. dollar (at current exchange rates)...

      I'm currently slogging my way through Cryptonomicon. I've started it no fewer than 3 times in the past couple of years, lost interest by page 150 or so, and went on to something else. I'm up to pg 500 this time and bound & determined to make it through (dammit!), but I am not finding it a pleasant process. Some of the parallel plot lines in the past are stitching together ("flowing" and "lucid" are a little generous, IMO), but the present day stuff still has yet to capture my interest or make any sense with the WWII plot lines. I was hoping that by the time I was 1/2 way through that more of them would be connecting. Instead they seem to be multiplying.

      The only reason I'm continuing is that my daughter's not done with Wolves of the Calla yet. If she finishes first we'll see if Stephenson can still retain my interest.

      I did like the afterword by Bruce Schneier about Solitaire (skipped ahead). That steered me towards his crypto book, which I *did* find enjoyable (in a geekish, educational sort of way).

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  17. You insensitive clod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I'm an illiterate product of the American public school system.

    Now lets return back to epic diatribes on Battlestar Galactica as quickly as possible.

    1. Re:You insensitive clod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, you don't write like you're illiterate. Are you sure you're not just lazy and lie about being illiterate to get out of work. That sounds more like a product of the American public school system to me.

  18. The Wayfarer Redemption by nathankerr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    By far, the worst book I've (tried to) read this year would be this piece of crap. There are better soap operas that have characters that are more realistic. Stay away from this and the rest of Sara Douglas's books. "The best writer in Austrilia"? Wow! I'm glad I don't live there!

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    1. Re:The Wayfarer Redemption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's better than half the American crap I've read. Sara Douglas' style may not suit everyone, but there are plenty who really love her books.

    2. Re:The Wayfarer Redemption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1 - shes crap. I've waded thru 3 of here books on a friends reccomendation and I won't be going back.

    3. Re:The Wayfarer Redemption by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      The Wayfarer Redemption (published in Australia as Battleaxe) is the first part of a series called "The Axis Trilogy", and has a sequel series called "The Wayfarer Redemption" (American publishers made this so confusing. It was also her first fantasy book. I liked the second series much more than the first, but try reading her latest book, The Troy Game. The writing is incredibly improved over the Axis books, it has an interesting premise, it's a lot darker than her first books, and incredibly well-researched (her degree in Medival European History really shows through). Her earlier series, "The Crucible" (The Nameless Day, The Wounded Hawk, The Crippled Angel) also looks to be much better, but I stopped reading that after the first book. It was much too dark for my tastes.

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  19. The Best. by readpunk · · Score: 1

    The Watch by Dennis Danvers.

    I know, it was published in 2001 but the paperback came out this year!

    KROPOTKIN THROUGH TTTIIIMMMMEEEEE!!!!

    Ha ha.

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  20. Some quickies by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some books that were "a hell of a lot better than I expected".

    "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" was pretty good - some "duh" moments with the characters that made you want to smack them all in the head and shout "Stop acting like you're 12!", but overall, pretty damned good.

    "Wolves of Callah". Go figure - I thought this would suck, since Mr. King seams to have lost something after his accident. But the story, even when I had pretty much figured things out, was still pretty good.

    On the "not great but not bad" area I'd put "The Da Vinci Code". Clever as hell idea, some interesting observations that had me going to my art books to check it out - great from that point of view. Great book to get people interested in art and the symbols used in literature, paintings, music, and so on.

    But why did the main characters Sophie and Robert suffer such massive brain farts at times? They'd talk about huge ideas in symbology - then 50 pages later, be stumped by a puzzle they had talked about earlier! (Well, and there was the incredible coincidence that a Harvard professor and a cryptologist both happen to be hot - how did that work out?)

    I think for my most enjoyed book so far this year was "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" by Al Franken. I don't agree with all of his politics, thought he had some good points, some bad points, and some so-so points - but damn if it wasn't funny and at least thought provoking at times.

    Worst book? "Chosen", the novelization for the last season of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer". I mean - punctuation mistakes all over the place, and somebody used "find and replace" in a bad way. Amazing how the word First and Chosen are always capitzlized, even when "Buffy was First into the room"? Remember, kids - even after you use Command-F, Command-V, Enter, you still need to proof read the damned thing.

    Just my opinions, of course. I still have to read Stephenson's "Quicksilver", but it's not out on peanutpress.com yet, and I'm not sure I have space in my backpack for another meatspace book.

    1. Re:Some quickies by Exiler · · Score: 1

      They are like twelve. If you don't want to read about children, stop reading childrens books.

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    2. Re:Some quickies by TrollBridge · · Score: 1
      "Stop acting like you're 12!"

      Ummm...... they ARE 12, aren't they? :)

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    3. Re:Some quickies by Little+Brother · · Score: 1

      By the time of OoTP the main characters are 16, not twelve.

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    4. Re:Some quickies by Bishop923 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually in Book 5 they are 15 years old, each book is one year in the series.

    5. Re:Some quickies by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Funny

      They are 15, not 16. And you only have to look at Slashdot to see what happens when 15 year olds get a little bit of power.

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    6. Re:Some quickies by BigGerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Potter" is not really a childrens book the way other children's books are.
      One of the reasons Potter books are so popular is that it is hard to find any other book for children that would deal with issues that exist in the real world but conviniently avoided by the mass literature, such as social injustice, poverty, bullies, racial tension, etc.
      The irony is that the book about wizards is actually more down to earth and more realistic than some other books.
      When I was growing up, I had a teacher who looked like, dressed like and behaived like Dolores Umbridge. I was freaked out when I read the Order of Phoenix.

    7. Re:Some quickies by outcast36 · · Score: 0
      To follow-up on the Da Vinci code
      • art history- very intersting
      • symbology- also enlightening
      • cryptology- cool, but not engrossing- ohh a number sequence
      • story-telling: shit bad

      The book reels you right in, and I was ripping through it to see how it ended. Now that I know, I must give you this advice. Stop reading before the last 20 pages. The ending is horrible. Like Matrix 2 horrible (Yeah I said it)
    8. Re:Some quickies by Captain+Beefheart · · Score: 1

      I'd liken "The Da Vinci Code," because, while it definitely has some significant "airport novel" tendencies, it really has some fascinating observations about the early Christian church that led me to do some illuminating research. Of course, I've always been intrigued by various conspiracies. If you can get past some clunky characterization and plotting (I almost choked when the main character happened to catch his reflection in a mirror right at the beginning), it's a fun litle caper and a quick read.

    9. Re:Some quickies by johndiii · · Score: 1

      cryptology- cool, but not engrossing- ohh a number sequence

      Brown's grasp of cryptography has improved, then, since Digital Fortress? When he started talking about "rotating plaintext" and unbreakable codes, I felt like I was reading a novel about a perpetual motion machine.

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    10. Re:Some quickies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The Da Vinci Code" is one of the worst books ever written. Ever. It's up there with "Killing Time" by Caleb Carr. It is humorless, incompetent, boring, stupid, pointless and repetitive. Endless waffling on about the same damn sacred symbols to the point where *everything* is a symbol. A protagonist who takes time in the middle of what should be a desperate chase scene to give lectures on the imagery of the sacred female in renaissance art. Cliched, hackneyed characterisation and plotting that reads like a twelve-year-old trying to copy Frederick Forsythe.

    11. Re:Some quickies by Little+Brother · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I'm sure some of them are 16. But you're right, I miscounted. Thanks for the correction. And my point still stands, they arn't 12.

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    12. Re:Some quickies by ePhil_One · · Score: 4, Informative
      "Potter" is not really a childrens book the way other children's books are.

      The first books really were kids books. Simple stories, lots of "don't jump to conclusions" moral lessons.

      But the later books are becoming more complex, and I just don't see how anyone can call a 900 page tome a "children's book" What amazes me is that kids are still reading it. 12 year olds are going out and reading a 900 page novel.

      That is an accomplishment.

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    13. Re:Some quickies by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1
      One of the reasons Potter books are so popular is that it is hard to find any other book for children that would deal with issues that exist in the real world but conviniently avoided by the mass literature, such as social injustice, poverty, bullies, racial tension, etc.

      Really? When I was in high school we used to get books like that shoved down our throats ... maybe that's why I have no interest in reading Harry Potter!

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    14. Re:Some quickies by msonic · · Score: 1

      The best political book I have ever read is "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" by Robert H. Bork (1996). It is nothing like any of the current crop of political books. If you have any interest in politics, it is a must read.

      Bork was nominated by President Reagan to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1987, and was turned down because he is conservative. If you are not conservative, don't reject this book out of hand.

      Bork impressed me a lot, and I am not easy to impress. I am going to read his other books. Bork is a learned person and you will truly be informed by this book. Don't believe any negative reviews you may read about this book. It is penetrating, informative, and pertinent. Two thumbs up.

    15. Re:Some quickies by Bugmaster · · Score: 1

      The amazing thing about Harry Potter is that it manages to address important issues without shoving them down your throat. Instead, you follow Harry Potter and his friends/enemies throughout the book, get attached to the characters, get drawn into the story... That's right: instead of teaching you the moral lesson of the day (tm), the book makes you experience it. That's what separartes fiction from Oracle DBA manuals, and what separates great fiction from moralizing crap.

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    16. Re:Some quickies by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1

      Fair enough! My objection to Harry Potter must come from other source then :)

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    17. Re:Some quickies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bork didn't get turned down because he was conservative. While I respect the man's knowledge, especially of antitrust law, he was a total Nixon crony. Remember the Saturday Night Massacre? Robert Bork. He wasn't confirmed because of this very reason, not because of his conservatism. Hell, Reagan got Scalia confirmed just a few years earlier, and he was way more conservative than Bork was.

    18. Re:Some quickies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I didn't read Digital Fortress...

      In the Da Vinci Code there is a cryptographic expert who thinks back to her days in college where she learned all about the experts they studied...Schneier and Zimmerman.

    19. Re:Some quickies by Thiago+Ize · · Score: 1

      That's 900 pages of large print (12pt font) and 1.5 spacing. When you compare that to "adult" books with their smaller fonts and spacing, it's probably more like a 300-400 page book (I'm making these numbers up). It's really not that much to read. That's why kids can still read it. Of course what is amazing is that kids who do not read books are now reading books...

    20. Re:Some quickies by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Actually, I know a lot of parents who devoted an entire year to reading books 4 and 5 to their kids. At five pages a night, you can finish it in 120 days. At ten pages a night, you can finish it in 60 days.

      In either respect, by the time you're done you've not only satisfied your youngster's Potterlust, but you've also got some very fun quality time under your belt. Always a plus.

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    21. Re:Some quickies by JimBobJoe · · Score: 1

      each book is one year in the series

      Which is probably good for several reasons; for instance, we won't be inundated with Potter books that could have been better...each one will be painstakingly written all unto itself.

      But, otoh, I hate seeing them grow up. It was also very peculiar for me to read the first three books in a 6-8 week time period and see them add three years to their lives. I had to stop reading them alltogether otherwise my sense of time was going to become very corrupted.

    22. Re:Some quickies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get shivers every time I see the term "quality time". Why not just give kids time? Or does it have to always be pre-planned down-to-the-minute program consisting of some vague notion of "quality"?

    23. Re:Some quickies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, have you read any childrens books lately? IME it's almost impossible to find a decent book that doesn't centre on social injustice, poverty, bullies, racial tension, etc.

      On the rare occasions that I find a book that sets out to tell a good story without hanging it on an issue it's like a breath of fresh air. Hilary Mackay and Diana Wynne Jones spring to mind as good for that sort of thing.

    24. Re:Some quickies by mydigitalself · · Score: 1

      no offence to the potter fans - but i just could not grok this whole harry potter thing. i arrived in the UK from south africa about 3 years ago and EVERYONE was reading harry potter on the tube (that and "white teeth"). so i thought i'd give it a bash...

      i've read the first 4 and will not buy the 5th. everytime i'm waiting for the books to mature slightly or something - i really just don't know and cannot understand why adults would read 700-odd pages of this. go and get "alastair reynolds - redemption ark" (ok thats the book i've just finished - and enjoyed) or something.

      i also did have a point, and that was regarding the 12 year olds reading a 900 page novel. when i was 12 we read the hobbit in school and just about half the class ran out and bought the LOTR trilogy. now THERE'S an achievement! 12 year olds reading a 921384092 page adult book (the cooler kids had the one book edition!).

    25. Re:Some quickies by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      Quality Time means "time spent with someone while not ignoring them or enforcing your will upon them." At least, that's what it means to me.

      There is after all a big difference between an hour playing hoops with a kid or reading a book he likes, and dragging him to stores or museums he couldn't care less about.

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    26. Re:Some quickies by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

      When you compare that to "adult" books with their smaller fonts and spacing, it's probably more like a 300-400 page book (I'm making these numbers up). It's really not that much to read.

      What? OotP is 255,000 words. That is not going to fit in 300-400 pages.

      In any case, it's true that the American edition has a slightly larger type, but the UK edition does not, and it's 768 pages.

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    27. Re:Some quickies by Thiago+Ize · · Score: 1

      Yup, I definitly was pulling those numbers out of my ass. So I went and counted how many words are on a random page of my paperback edition of Don Quixote (an "adult level" book) and got about 450. So at 450 words/page, OotP would be a 566 page book. I guess 566 borders on the slightly large for your average book, but it's still 200 pages less than the UK edition. Keep in mind the spacing between lines and words as well as the margins of the book in addition to the larger type.

  21. New Testament by Omega1045 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought the New Testament was pretty good, but it lacks a lot of the action of the Old Testament. The use of metaphor was nice. Personally, I would have like a better ending. The 4 horseman things has been way overdone...

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    1. Re:New Testament by TeamSPAM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      To quote Henry Rollins: "Never read the book, but I like the story." ;-)

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    2. Re:New Testament by inf0rmer · · Score: 1

      "He's not the Messiah, he's a VERY naughty boy!"

    3. Re:New Testament by MikeDawg · · Score: 1

      Apparently, this was similar to his feelings about movies too. Have you seen some of those Henry Rollins' monstrosities (sp?).

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    4. Re:New Testament by TeamSPAM · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the only movie that I really liked him in was "The Chase."

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  22. Isaac Adamson/Hillary Clinton by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative
    I tend to be a bit behind on books, as I get them mostly from the library. But since the only posts at this time are some LoTR comments and a particularly inane SCO bit, I'll kick in what I can:

    I really enjoyed two books by Isaac Adamson -- Hokkaido Popsicle and the earlier Tokyo Suckerpunch. It's hard to describe them, but they're perfect for Japanophiles and other Asia-pop enthusiasts>

    Worst book of 2003 is easy -- Hillary Clinton's memoirs. As much as I detest her, she's obviously an interesting person but her book sounded like it was written by her staff and focus-grouped before publication.

  23. Re:Well... by cgranade · · Score: 1

    I would categorize them as the year's worst work of friction.

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  24. Worst! The Da Vinci Code by Dante · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I got this hoping for some cerebral cotton candy, I was familiar with a lot of the themes, Fibonacci numbers, secret societies, The Gnostics, reformation, DaVinci himself. I was drubbed with poorly thought out, halfhasardly researched drivel. Brown should of been shot.

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    1. Re:Worst! The Da Vinci Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      halfhasardly researched drivel. Brown should of been shot.

      Oh, for crying out loud!

      That's haphazardly and should have been shot. Sheeesh!

    2. Re:Worst! The Da Vinci Code by Dante · · Score: 1

      heh..... point well taken, I was in a hurry sorry. :) At least I was not complaining about grammar and spelling.

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  25. Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style? by Rascasse · · Score: 1

    I've tried 3 times to read Cryptonimicon and each time I get bored of the story. There is an irony in his seeming love for using Haiku in the story because I find nothing elegantly simple in the way he writes. I find that the story is far too verbose and would benefit greatly from a lengthy and discriminating editor.

  26. "Literature Geek?" by OECD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The phrase "Literature Geek" makes me wonder, can you be a "Sports Geek"? Or a "Fashion Geek"?

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    1. Re:"Literature Geek?" by Neop2Lemus · · Score: 2, Funny
      It made me wonder too as thats what I am (I think). I mean, I don't code...

      The fine link between geek and non-geek becomes particularly blurred when talking about "guitar geeks". I mean are they geeks or just knobs? I've always thought the latter but who am I to say?

      Should this be a poll?

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    2. Re:"Literature Geek?" by Little+Brother · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yes. I've met one of each of those. The sports geeks (if they're good) will know the history of most major sports, and a few minor ones. The history is beyond what would be found in almanics and will include the predesessors of the sport. They will understand one or two sports (like CS geeks will understand one or two programming languages) extensively. They are able to tell you about all the current rules and the progression from earlier rules that brought the current rules into being. They know nearly every current player in their sport of choice (The hockey geek I knew could give me the entire starting roster of every team in the NHL (I had to use google to even find out what the teams were)). Sport geeks often invent their own plays/moves, and these often actualy work on whatever level they are playing at and they can support why such a play/tecnique would work in the majors. (I'm sure some people in the majors ARE sports geeks, but I have no way of knowing.) Although a sports geek may be a fan of a specific team, they are able to list the strong and weak points of any team more-or-less objectively.

      As for fasion geek, see fung shui (spelling) masters for more information. (I guess, I know less on this topic)

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    3. Re:"Literature Geek?" by Night+Goat · · Score: 1

      There are definitely guitar geeks. They're the guys like Sonic Youth, who spend a lot of time screwing around with their pickups, amps, etc. to get the perfect tone. Gearheads.

    4. Re:"Literature Geek?" by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      The phrase "Literature Geek" makes me wonder, can you be a "Sports Geek"? Or a "Fashion Geek"?

      I know of sports geeks, but I personally know some fashion geeks. It's the same as with a computer geek: they have a deep knowledge of the topic and takes great intellectual delight in studying and practicing it.

      One of them I know makes her living from it; she buys up clothing at estate sales and low-end vintages stores and sells it at the high-end ones. The main problem she has is that she wants to keep it all for herself; her house would make a good museum.

      And if it makes you feel better, she's also a big science fiction fan. But other fashion geeks I know aren't.

  27. Plenty of tin-foil hat reading material in 2003 by Liselle · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oryx and Crake was a pretty decent number. Anyone who thinks that bio-engineering is out of control will eat this stuff up. Three cheers for pigoons and wolvogs!

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  28. Why all the need to rank things? by csoto · · Score: 1

    Why not just ask for a list of books worth reading? I've read a few that aren't the "best" ever, or the "worst," but it was worth the time.

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  29. Michael Moore by shftleft · · Score: 1, Insightful
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    1. Re:Michael Moore by shftleft · · Score: 2, Informative

      Positively Fifth Street was an excellent piece of non-fiction.

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    2. Re:Michael Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's fiction, right?

    3. Re:Michael Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude where's my country is excellent reading.
      George W. needs to go!

    4. Re:Michael Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you believe that tripe, I've got a bridge to sell you

      Now, the right-wing crap is just as bad, but if you think Michael Moore is selling the right ideas (or for that matter, even presenting the truth), you're smoking something

    5. Re:Michael Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now, the right-wing crap is just as bad, but if you think Michael Moore is selling the right ideas (or for that matter, even presenting the truth), you're smoking something

      Michael Moore is a darn right wing liberal,

      Join the communist party today!
      Prepare for the revolution. (at 2^31 s epoch)

    6. Re:Michael Moore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree.

      I consider myself a centrist and I like to evaluate the posistions of both sides before taking a stance on an issue.

      I've seen Bowling for Columbine and the total blatant propaganda and inaccuracy just turned me off.

      You know, I wouldn't mind Moore's if he was factual and not blatantly lying at times.

    7. Re:Michael Moore by filth+grinder · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Other suggested works of Political Commentary out this year would be "Kingdom Of Fear" by Hunter S. Thompson. While resting a little on his laurels and retaling some tales, Thompson weaves together a series of stories which highlight the current politcal madness. He paints the current political situation as a "Kingdom of Fear". the book also continues thompson chronicle of the death of the american dream. Interesting read with you are an HST fan.

      as for dissappoint books, "Diary", by Chuck Palahinuk was a dissappointment. His last book "Lullaby" was brilliant, it was one of the best stories I've read in awhile. "Diary" was just dreck. The "Chuckism" in the book (Greek Chorus like repetition of lines) seemed force. The plot of utterly predictable, andnot very engaging. Only a few parts really worked. It is very disappointing, and is a pale shadow of his other great works, such as Lullabye, Choke, Survivor, and Fight Club.

  30. 2 cents. by cgranade · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Personally, I'm interested in politics, so I found Dude, Where's My Country? to be a very interesting work. Moore improves on Stupid White Men a lot by incorporating many more references to works cited, and elaborating his position better. For that matter, one of my textbooks made interesting reading: Gov't and Business.
    Worst book? Anything by Ann Coulter. She claims in her latest book, Treason, that being liberal is a sin worse than terrorism. If that isn't hateful and just plain wacked, I don't know what is.

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    1. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, I'm pretty much a staunch, hard-core conservative, but I freely admit 'that biatch is crazy.' On a side note, I must also admit I enjoyed "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" by Al Franken. I don't agree with the politics, but it was pretty insightful and darn funny (at least the first part, it began to drag later on.)

    2. Re:2 cents. by rossz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Except Moore is a lying sack of shit. I wouldn't trust him to tell the truth if I asked him what's the time.

      For proof of his tendency to lie, analyze that movie work of fiction, "Bowling for Columbine". I will never again watch the Academy awards because they gave that movie "best documentary". In my world, a documentary should be based in fact.

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    3. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 0, Troll

      Moore improves on Stupid White Men a lot...

      No! Say it isn't so! How could he possibly have improved on that stinking pile of fetid garbage?

      Have to disagree with Treason. Second best book I read this past year (the best was The Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire, does an excellent explaining pretty much all of the problems in the Middle East and Balkans these days). Her premise isn't that being liberal is treasonous, it's that liberals almost always side with America's enemies. Which is pretty self evident to any rational person.

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    4. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Worst book? Anything by Ann Coulter."

      wow. just like mike told you to say in "dude..."

    5. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire, does an excellent explaining pretty much all of the problems in the Middle East and Balkans these days

      Pure scapegoatism!

      How can an empire based on putting your feet up be the cause of all the turmoil in some of the world's hottest hot spots?

      I, for one, take the opposite view. If the people there had some Ottomans, they'd be more relaxed and much less prone to violence.

    6. Re:2 cents. by Arthur+Dent · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Her premise isn't that being liberal is treasonous, it's that liberals almost always side with America's enemies. Which is pretty self evident to any rational person.
      That's a pretty sweeping charge to make. Do you happen to have more information? Specifics would really help. I'm asking because I really want to know...
    7. Re:2 cents. by slimak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is a fantastic point you make, I especially like how you provide lots of concert examples to back up what you say -- bravo!

      Seriously though, next time maybe you could provide specific examples -- what exactly about "Bowling for Columbine" is non-fact?

    8. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting how everyone keeps saying that he's a liar, yet no one provides any proof.

    9. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wait isn't this what (m)ann said to say?

    10. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      That's a pretty sweeping charge to make. Do you happen to have more information? Specifics would really help. I'm asking because I really want to know...

      Then go pick up a copy of her book. Duh.

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    11. Re:2 cents. by Damek · · Score: 1

      Her premise isn't that being liberal is treasonous, it's that liberals almost always side with America's enemies. Which is pretty self evident to any rational person.

      If that were true, liberals right now would be siding with President Bush. But most aren't (many "conservatives" aren't, either). BTW, here's a hint: liberals also not siding with Hussein. You're being presented with a false choice, between either the current administration or the "bad guy" they've chosen for you.

      I don't like Hussein, but that doesn't mean I have to like Bush. I can dislike both equally.

      As for Moore, Coulter, O'Reilly, Franken, and the rest, I wouldn't give my money to any of them. They're all the same, capitalizing off of the hate of Americans. I have to give Franken a couple of points for humor, though - Moore, Coulter, and the rest all seem to be filled with nothing but pure hatred. Coulter seems to lie the most, though, from what little I've seen on her website.

      I say, let's try to bring American politics back to the rock solid foundation of cold hard facts. America can do better than these hate-fests...

    12. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even haters can be right sometimes. In this case, I'd say he is. Not that it means his book is much better...

    13. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      although a link would have been nice on the part of the OP, it is well documented that Bowling For Columbine is ripe with inaccuracy and pure propaganda:

      http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

    14. Re:2 cents. by chadm1967 · · Score: 1

      Exactly!

    15. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For proof of his tendency to lie, analyze that movie work of fiction, "Bowling for Columbine".

      So... tell me, are you calling it a work of fiction because you yourself have investigated the claims it makes and found them to be false, or are you going by the articles by Moore's many enemies claiming that the movie lies? And have you read Moore's response to those claims?

      If you haven't done so already, I suggest you do follow up some of the claims yourself. It isn't pleasant having your worldview challenged, but it's a necessary step to take if you want to have a serious opinion on anything.

      My personal conclusion, for what little it's worth, is that Bowling for Columbine is an excellent piece of propoganda. Pretty much everything it says has a basis in fact, but of course it doesn't tell the whole story.

      But I'm a self-confessed liberal, so I doubt you give a fuck what I think.

    16. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you don't tell the whole story for the intended purpose of decieving those who are watching (or reading), you are in effect lying.

      I've read the criticisms of Bowling and its a pretty daming one at that.

      I haven't been able to find Moore's response to that, but in the interests of objective research, I'd be happy to read it if you want to provide it.

    17. Re:2 cents. by agslashdot · · Score: 1

      "Her premise isn't that being liberal is treasonous, it's that liberals almost always side with America's enemies. Which is pretty self evident to any rational person."

      Dude, you are, like, so wrong.
      Who declared France to be America's enemy ?
      She did.
      Then she turns around & says all liberals are traitors 'cause they like France. You expect us to keep track of which country is Coulter's pal and which one's the enemy at any point in time ? Liberals like to mostly get along - Coulter likes to mostly drive a wedge. Such a divisive bitch.

    18. Re:2 cents. by Arthur+Dent · · Score: 3, Informative
      I would have. But it got such terrible reviews that I passed.

      Review 1

      As I say, it's easy to explain why this book is bad. What is much, much harder to explain is why so many people think this book is good, or at least why so many people are buying it. After all, if you want to read a book about why the left was wrong and Sen. McCarthy was right, far better ones are out there. Making use of Soviet archives, John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr have teamed up to write several excellent books about the American Communist Party over the past several years. Even if you prefer to get your history from a female conservative columnist, Mona Charen published a far more thoughtful attack on the post-war left last fall. In Useful Idiots, Charen covered some of the same ground as Coulter, but she did it logically, chronologically and without failing to notice that there were some important differences between Robert Kennedy and, say, Abbie Hoffman.

      For that matter, even if you want to read a conservative rant, there are better ones -- Tammy Bruce's The Death of Right and Wrong, for example. If Coulter's shtick is that she's a right-wing blonde, Bruce's shtick is that she's a right-wing lesbian. The formula is the same: quotes picked out from newspaper articles, research that consists largely of extensive Internet surfing. But because Bruce is writing about pop culture, and not accusing the entire post-war Democratic Party of high treason, the end result is somehow less irritating.

      Another Review

      In short, Ann Coulter has once again revealed herself as one of the most destructive forces in American politics, repeatedly making outrageously irrational arguments and demonstrably false claims. Treason is the culmination of a dismaying trend toward factually misleading and inflammatory books from pundits such as Michael Moore, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage (Salon Premium subscription or viewing of ad required for Savage column). These authors may delight partisans and make their publishers rich, but their work impoverishes our political discourse.

      BTW, that's also a reason why I don't Stupid White Men or Dude, Where's my Country.

    19. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny... the fact that you think that way is almost proof positive that everything he said is factual... you've been spoon-fed propaganda all your life and you actually believe it.

      "Neo, The Matrix has you" has become "Comrade, the US Government owns you"

    20. Re:2 cents. by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If you search a bit, you'll find lists of all sorts of inaccuracies and falsehoods in the movie, some nitpicky and some not. An AC already posted a good link.

      Some of them (the kids didn't really go bowling that day!) are silly, but the cut and paste jobs on the Willie Horton ad, and particularly the shredding of Charlton Heston's words are utterly, flagrantly outside anything acceptable in documentaries. It is appalling that the documentary community and the Academy tolerated it.

    21. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I say, let's try to bring American politics back to the rock solid foundation of cold hard facts.

      +5 Funny!

    22. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can dislike both equally.

      Which is exactly the problem.

      Saddam Hussein murdered hundreds of thousands of his countrymen, in cold blood, often simply because they disagreed with him, or he thought they might have disagreed with him.

      Bush conducted a war in which under ten thousand people were killed. I don't like war, and I don't like killing. But in exchange, he managed to stop Saddam's murder express. By this time next year, the war will have saved many more lives than it cost.

      In the end, Iraq and Iraqis are way better off then they were before the war, and the situation in their country is set to improve substantially over the next few years.

      I am not saying that everything is perfect over there. Of course there are problems, and of course there are situations unfavourable to us. But at the same time, they are no longer under Saddam. They can say what they want. They can believe what they wish.

      Much of the State Department opposed the war, preferring diplomatic solutions to the problem. Here is their report on the human rights record of Iraq and Saddam.

      Getting rid of that beast of a ruler is, in my opinion, the best investment we could make for a better, safer middle east.

      You are, of course, free to disagree with me.

      But to say Bush is just as bad a ruler as Saddam Hussein is simply not a supportable argument, even as hyperbole.

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    23. Re:2 cents. by gordgekko · · Score: 1
      Personally, I'm interested in politics, so I found Dude, Where's My Country? to be a very interesting work. Moore improves on Stupid White Men a lot by incorporating many more references to works cited, and elaborating his position better. For that matter, one of my textbooks made interesting reading: Gov't and Business.

      I actually reviewed this for a newspaper so I had to be reasonably polite in my criticisms of DWMC? but I have to say it was the second most sophmoric book I've ever had the misfortune to read. There were so many distortions and outright lies -- heaped on silliness like "selected, not elected!" (seriously, it's time to give that one up...no one cares even if you were right) -- that I argued it should have been classified as fiction.

      Yeah, Coulter isn't much better but as a conservative I'm happy that the left considers Moore to be an intellectual hero...makes my job discrediting liberalism all that much easier. Bowling for Columbine? The NRA board of directors must have been laughing after watching it in anticipation of all the new memberships.

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    24. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      It is appalling that the documentary community and the Academy tolerated it.
      If the point of the movie was that guns cause violence, then I agree, the problems with the movie are too egregious to overlook. However, I think the problems don't have any effect on the main argument of the film that media, and news media in particular, makes us very scared of each other. We become instilled with a fear that causes us to lash out at one another in violent and deadly ways. I think the main argument of the movie is overlooked by people wanting to find problems with it.

      That said, I hated all of the scenes dealing with Heston and they really do harm the quality of the movie. Regardless, I don't think the main argument rested on whatever points Moore was trying to make with Heston. It seemed more like he was just beating up on Heston than anything else.

      As for the Academy, I think their awards are totally irrelevant, I don't pay any attention to them any more. Far too many cases of someone/thing winning for reasons other than being of higher quality. That and the fact none of Errol Morris' films have never even been nominated for Best Documentary. Mr. Death in particular is one of the best documentaries of all time IMO.
    25. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      I was going to write a cogent response, 'til I realized your arguments are nothing but strawmen. So instead I'll just cut to the chase and say: you're a stinkin' traitor.

      There, happy?

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    26. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'll readily concede that Coulter has much in common with Moore, and her books and columns are entertaining for the same reasons. Granted, I tend to agree with her basic premises, so it's easier for me to laugh with her (since with Moore he's laughing at me).

      Besides, when it comes to having book jackets on my shelf, I'd rather have one with a leggy blonde on the cover than a fat redneck in a John Deere cap. Coulter looks like someone I'd want to date, Moore looks like someone I'd watch carefully during a poker game.

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    27. Re:2 cents. by Dan-DAFC · · Score: 1
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    28. Re:2 cents. by Dan-DAFC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bush conducted a war in which under ten thousand people were killed.

      I guess Stalin was right.

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    29. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Anyone who believes Michael Moore has any credibility whatsoever will probably not think so after following this link: Bowling For Truth

    30. Re:2 cents. by jbrians · · Score: 0

      You're right that it's absurd to dislike Bush and Hussein equally. You're wrong that Iraqi's are better off than they were before the war. They (most of them, anyway) are most certainly worse off now than before the war. They may ultimately benefit from Hussein's removal "in the end," but that remains to be seen. To understand that it is not automatic that a happy modern democracy will arise you need only look to Afghanistan.

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    31. Re:2 cents. by jbrians · · Score: 1

      Oh, wow! It's just "strawmen"! I'm convinced! Anne Coulter is the truth-bearer.

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    32. Re:2 cents. by Damek · · Score: 1

      Yes, I would like to correct my faulty phrasing. I do not dislike them both equally. But I do dislike them both. I should have left off the last word and then you would have understood me.

      However, I do dislike Bush far more than you might wish I did, because I cannot forget that his father, his party, and some people who are working in his administration at the moment, are responsible for putting Hussein in the position he was in. If we could get Bush and those who work under him out of power, that might be the best investment we could make for a better, safer world altogether. We need to stop supporting tyrants for short-term gains. It is unacceptable.

      As for saying Bush is "just as bad a ruler as Saddam", I didn't say he was just as bad - thanks for providing an example of the kind of word-twisting the far right as represented by Ann Coulter, Fox News, etc., has become known for.

    33. Re:2 cents. by jbrians · · Score: 1

      For an explanation of Dude's intellectual vaccuity, go here: http://www.spinsanity.org/columns/20031016.html

      For a more accurate and reasonable condemnation of America's Right, try Joe Conason's "Big Lies"

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    34. Re:2 cents. by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Actually, I HAVE read Slander anda bit of Treason. Both books implement a variety of fallacies. Such as the "Slippery Slope" and using "broad strokes." In that aspect, it's a masterpiece, but they're supposed to be serious works, so I rate each -1239 stars out of 10.

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    35. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
      Sorry, but after the lies and manipulations, the main argument is dead t me, and it should be to you, too. After a deliberate lie in a documentary, the directory / writer should have no credibility. They should be forced by the literary and film community to spend at least a few years rebuilding your reputation before you walk onto any broadcast event, except for an apology.


      Tolerance of this kind of propaganda, whatever the message, is why public discussion is such a wash in America. We need to ostracise those who have no integrity. Instead we only attack those we percieve to be our adversaries.


      We need higher standards. Every man who lies to the public is my enemy.

    36. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Yes, strawmen. Where in my original post did I even mentioned France? I didn't, yet the responder brought up something about people like France, therefore they're traitors. It has nothing to do with my post, therefore it's a strawman.

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    37. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      However, I do dislike Bush far more than you might wish I did, because I cannot forget that his father, his party, and some people who are working in his administration at the moment, are responsible for putting Hussein in the position he was in.

      That's a pretty damaging statement. Got any proof? I've done some basic digging on the subject, and haven't found anything to support the idea that anyone in America did anything at anytime to help Saddam gain power. If you've got evidence someone did, it needs to be shown the light of day.

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    38. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      Before the war, you were likely to be shot or tortured if you disagreed with Saddam Hussein, or even appeared to disagree with him.

      Now, you're not.

      And if you disagree with our forces, they won't kill you.(*)

      I just don't understand how that couldn't be considered a major improvement.

      I think a few people should read the human rights report on Iraq and ask if Bush has even come close to doing what Saddam has.

      Has a happy, modern democracy arisen in the place of Saddam's thugocracy? Well, no, not yet. But this interregnum is a darn sight better than thugocracy, no matter how you slice it.

      D

      (*) Well, yes, if you tell our forces you disagree with them while pointing a gun at their heads, yes, they will kill you. But they won't kill you for saying what's on your mind.

    39. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      So do you believe we'd be better off with Saddam in power?

      If you ressurected Stalin and asked him if Saddam's defeat was a good thing for his side, I think you can guess the answer.

      D

    40. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      Your efforts to defend your mention of the equivalence of Bush and Saddam in your mind are simply semantics. You said you dislike them equally, so you consider them morally equivalent. Easy enough.

      I've made a point to go to anti-war rallies as an observer, and the hatred of Bush was very obviously greater than people's hatred of - or knowledge of - what Saddam has done to get in Bush's sights.

      I do not believe we put Saddam in power, but we did support him as a counterweight to Iran at a time when Iran looked like the real danger. I'm sure you remember that tiresome hostage situation.

      And if we did put Saddam in power, or if we did help Saddam, doesn't that mean we have a moral responsibility to get him out before he does more damage? If we created him, as we may have, and if he ran amok, as he did, is it not our responsibility to bring him to justice?

      If you want to be consistent in your moral outrage, you sould be praising Bush II to the skies, not condemning him. You can condemn his father with some justice, but George W Bush is doing the morally correct thing, insofar as I can determine.

      D

    41. Re:2 cents. by shadowmatter · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why is the knee-jerk reaction always to make a cute and snappy comeback, as opposed to spending five seconds Googling for some exmaples, and enlightening oneself (and everybody else) in a follow-up?

      So I Googled, and found this . Personally, I like how Michael Moore fights for the little guy, and when I watched Bowling for Columbine, I didn't know about these inaccuracies and I enjoyed the film. I thought it was really well done. But then I heard of these inaccuracies later, and it kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth that he got the Academy Award for the film.

      Anyways, on to books. I don't really pay attention to when books come out, but the good books I read this year are:

      The Code Book by Simon Singh (brilliant)
      Euclid's Window by Leonard Mlodinow (non-technical, enjoyable)
      Emergence: The Connected Lives of Cities, Ants, and Software by Steven Johnson (enlightening, but too biased at times)
      The Night Is Large by Martin Gardner (this man knows about EVERYTHING)
      Lies and The Lying Liars Who Tell Them by Al Franken (hilarious, although obviously partial)
      Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance by Noam Chomsky (if you can't tolerate Franken, don't try this)

      Note I prefer non-fiction ;) I think, of the books above, only Euclid's Window, Lies and the Lying Liars..., and Hegemony or Survival came out this year. They're all fairly recent, however, and worth a look.

      - sm

    42. Re:2 cents. by rinks · · Score: 1

      So who supported him while he did all this? Man, I'm so tired of people acting like we get indignant at the thought of human suffering and feel obligated to intervene. What a load of crap. We supported Hussein when he fought Iran- once he decided to do his own thing, he made the shit list. Where was this righteous indignation during Rwanda, Cambodia, East Timor, the Sudan, the Congo, Liberia? Oh, right. They ain't got no oil. Sucks to be resource poor.

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    43. Re:2 cents. by Damek · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are semantics. Important semantics. Saying they are semantics does not dismiss my correction of what I said to be more in line with what I meant. Do not dismiss my correction and continue to discuss as if I meant what I originally said. It was a mistake, and if you cannot accept that, that's your problem. If I say something and you take it to mean something else, and I try to clarify my position, it is wrong of you to continue the discussion as if my clarification was meaningless.

      As for hatred of Bush at Bush protests, of course that's what will be represented there. I'm sorry there are/were no Saddam protests in America, but if you would like to organize some, by all means, go ahead.

      Yes, I agree we should correct our mistakes. I do not agree that there were no better ways of doing it, and I also do not think this is the only grievance that many Americans have against President Bush.

      And back to the original subject, Ann Coulter is a hating liar. Michael Moore isn't much better. Al Franken is a little better, but I cut him some slack since he's from my home state. And that's all I have to say on this. Nice chatting with you.

    44. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      Bush worked the diplomatic angles for over a year before invading. I'd say he gave Saddam every reasonable chance to back down. Saddam didn't blink.

      If you feel there are other ways Bush could have succeeded in his goal of getting rid of Saddam, I'd like to hear them - but I would say the burden of proof is on you. Certainly Bill Clinton didn't have any more success with his own diplomatic initiatives.

      I'd consider Mark Steyn the best conservative columnist writing today. He's not as well known as those you cite, but he makes his points with wit, verve and humour. You might want to check him out.

      D

    45. Re:2 cents. by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      So your opinion is that you can only dislike someone based on his moral status?

      I dislike George Bush because I believe his economic policy is a disaster for my country.

      I dislike Jim Carrey because he's annoying.

    46. Re:2 cents. by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      Aside from leaving the country, what do you believe Saddam could have done to appease Bush?

      I'm not defending Saddam by any means; I'm glad he's gone. But we basically gave him two choices: he could turn over the WMD that he probably didn't have, or we'd come in and take them.

    47. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      By refusing to give up his WMD, and stonewalling when inspectors tried to find it, Saddam gave just about everyone the impression that he had WMD. This includes most UN weapons inspectors, who saw enough of the runaround to last a lifetime.

      If he had been cooperative to the weapons inspectors, he could have gotten out of the mess, even pretty late in it. It would have been easy enough for him to simply throw his doors open. But he didn't.

      If he didn't have WMDs, he was truly the master of bluff. And maybe he was. But certainly not to his advantage.

      D

    48. Re:2 cents. by jbrians · · Score: 1

      No, it's just not better now. I should have elaborated. I wasn't claiming that it's worse now because the American occupation is specifically treating people worse than Hussein did. It's worse now because law and order have actually declined; we can't keep the peace. The infrastructure is in ruins. Quality of life is down for most people (i.e. people who were not directly enemies of Hussein). Obviously George Bush is not quite the tyrant that Hussein. But the fact is people are generally worse off now than they were before, and if a theocratic regime rises up (I admit this is unlikely) they will be worse off long-term.

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    49. Re:2 cents. by Dan-DAFC · · Score: 1

      I was commenting on an apparent disregard for human life rather than the rights or wrongs of "regime change".

      However, since you ask, it depends on who you mean by "we". If you mean the US, or in my case the UK, I don't think it would have made any difference at all, Saddam was not the international threat that Blair and Bush made out. If you mean the Iraqi people, then yes they are probably going to be better off in the long term, but whatever Bush and Blair may say now, they didn't go to war for some altruistic motive, to improve the lives of the Iraqi people, that was just a side-effect.

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    50. Re:2 cents. by misterpies · · Score: 1


      I agree with the parent that this makes perfect rational sense, but only from a right-wing fanatical point of view. After all, since a liberal will inevitably disagree on most things with any truly patriotic, god-fearing, red-blooded American, liberals are clearly siding with the enemy.

      Of course, liberals will equally regard right-wing as being anti-American. The only difference is that ever since Roosevelt left office, American politics have been dominated by what in the rest of the world is considered pretty extreme right-wingers. So it's become natural for American right-wingers to regard liberals as the "enemy within".

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    51. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can he "refuse to give up" something he didnt have ?

    52. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somalia, Kosovo, Bosina, Panama, Grenada, Korea -- don't have oil and the US Army went to these places.

      Your argumnet is defunct

    53. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So do you believe we'd be better off with Saddam in power?
      No, and no liberal has ever believed that, which is why liberals opposed Saddam Hussein while the right-wing US government was selling him weapons, encouraging his wars, denying his genocide and propping up his regime. Saddam Hussein was a monster created by right-wing US foreign policy, the same way that many other dictators around the world are created and sustained (see Uzbekistan for a modern-day example).
    54. Re:2 cents. by daviddennis · · Score: 1

      By being cooperative with the weapons inspectors instead of confrontational. Then it would have been easily proven that he didn't have them, and he could have gone on.

      I think he had WMDs; he was just good at hiding them. It's a big country. But if he didn't, that's the course of action he should have taken.

      D

    55. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, that just shows his argument is just slightly misplaced.

      Why do we pick and choose? Heck, how many people are being abused in China?

      Oh, right, China has more military aged men than we have total population. Oh, yeah, they also have nuclear weapons. Nevermind.

      How about North Korea? The people there are starving and are under a dictatorship. Oh, there's those nuclear weapons again. And probably a greater will to use them than China has.

      Why Iraq? Even ignoring the oil issue, they were a crushed nation. Saddam had no way to project his power beyond his borders and was limited within his borders. No WMD were found with previous UN inspections or searches since the invasion. Basically, they were an easy target.

    56. Re:2 cents. by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      Your efforts to defend your mention of the equivalence of Bush and Saddam in your mind are simply semantics. You said you dislike them equally, so you consider them morally equivalent. Easy enough.

      Eh? I dislike Britney Spears more than I dislike Ghengis Khan, but that doesn't mean I consider brutal dictators to be morally superior to pop stars.

      You can condemn his father with some justice, but George W Bush is doing the morally correct thing, insofar as I can determine.

      Living in San Francisco, I agree that there is certainly a chunk of the American left that is irrationally biased against George Bush to a point that is ridiculous. It seems to be the same thing (if smaller in scale) as the American right's irrational hatred of Clinton. It has a lot to do with their personalities, and very little to do with their capabilities.

      However, you shouldn't let that blind you to what are very reasonable critiques of the Bush administration. The war wasn't sold to the public on the basis of removing a bad dictator; it was sold on the basis of Iraq posing an imminent threat. Tony Blair got reamed for this, but the American media gave Bush pretty much a free pass on it, as demonstrated by the large proportion of Americans who still have basic facts wrong (especially, as it shows on page 13, the ones who get most of their news from Fox). Many lefty commentators feel that the Bush administration is directly responsible for this, but at the very least they have done very little to correct these misperceptions.

      But even if you believe that military action against Iraq was the only option (and many who oppose Bush felt that way), there are still very reasonable gripes with the way it happened. The unilateralist rush to immediate action spent vast amounts of international political capital. Two years ago the world was saying "We are all New Yorkers now." Recent surveys show a drastic falloff in worldwide approval of America as well as loss of stature for the UN. This isn't just a long-term issue, either; the lack of support from other nations, especially Islamic ones, is making it much harder to turn Iraq into a functioning democracy.

      Personally, I favored the use of force to bring Iraq into compliance with UN anti-proliferation treaties. I also favor the use of the US's power to benefit the downtrodden everywhere, especially by furthering the spread of the freedoms that we in western democracies often take for granted. But I think our Iraqi adventure was poorly executed and done for the wrong reasons.

    57. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally think one of the mistakes of a dialogue like this is the reduction to whether the world is a better place with or without Saddam.

      Who's gonna argue that Saddam was a good guy? Not me.

      But I think George Bush was aggreviously wrong in the course of action that he pursued. He managed to find a morally defensible action to mask a much larger agenda. We're stuck here arguing about whether Saddam Hussein should have been left in power when Bush's agenda, behind it, doesn't really depend on whether Saddam's in power or not.

      My dislike for Bush is that he masks his agenda behind actions like the invasion of Iraq so that his critics are somewhat paralyzed. Their fault is that they are more paralyzed than they should be.

    58. Re:2 cents. by rossz · · Score: 0, Troll

      I didn't post the details because it would be too much to put in a slashdot post. I guess I was wrong to assume that a slashdot reader would have enough intelligence to use a search engine. My bad.

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    59. Re:2 cents. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      I don't which makes me laugh more, getting marked "Flamebait" when I didn't insult anyone, or marked "Troll" when I asked a polite question which directly followed from a comment in the parent post.

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    60. Re:2 cents. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Relying on the Washington Post for reviews on politically themed books is like asking a militant vegan what you should eat for lunch.

  31. Quicksilver was neither quick or silver by orthogonal · · Score: 1

    In fiction, Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver is toward the top of my best list.

    Frankly, with my expectations based on Cryptonomicron, Quicksilver disappointed me. While it set the scene pretty well, and made its depiction of Stuart England after the Protectorate believable for me, the plot really went nowhere -- or it went too far afield.

    And after about page 500, even the scenery began to dull, because so little was happening on the scenery. Plus, the clever ideas of Cryptonomicron were little in evidence; there was more exposition and less intellectual delight, even though one might think much could be done with a cast of characters including Newton, Leibniz and Hooke.

  32. Best book of 2003 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    The Linux zealots guide to getting laid had lots of great insight in this one. Even more useful than 2002's The Linux zealots guide to hygiene.

    1. Re:Best book of 2003 by Shut+the+fuck+up! · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Linux zealots guide to getting laid.

      Here's a synopsis

  33. I want to read Quicksilver by bmckeever · · Score: 1

    But Stephenson's style tries my patience. His books have gotten successively less fun to read. He clearly did a lot of research, but he bludgeons you with it instead of just letting it improve the story.

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  34. Re:Robert "No closure" Jordan by TrollBridge · · Score: 2, Funny

    After a failed venture in high school, I find myself trying to plow through this series once again. Does it ever end? I mean it's a truly remarkable story, but it HAS to end somewhere, right??

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  35. Re:Robert "No closure" Jordan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It amazes how he keeps drawing the lamest details out to infinite purportions. Get it MR. JORDAN - FINISH THE FREAKING 10 BOOK SERIES. I AM getting OLD and TIRED.

  36. Best and worst of 2003 by dokhebi · · Score: 1

    Best book(s): Chobits by Clamp

    Worst book: The Torcon 3 (2003 World Science Fiction Convention) Pocket Program

  37. Just skip the prequil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I refuse to pick up a copy of "a new spring" or whatever the title is.

    I might read it when the series is finished, but Ill not reward him for another delaying tactic.

  38. All political pundit books by Augusto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're boring, predictable, and are big ego trips for the authors:

    Ann Coulter : Treason : Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism

    Al Franken : Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right

    Michael Moore : Dude, Where's My Country?

    Bill O'Reilly : Who's Looking Out for You?

    Eric Alterman : What Liberal Media? The Truth About Bias and the News

    Sean Hannity : Let Freedom Ring: Winning the War of Liberty over Liberalism

    Alan Colmes : Red, White & Liberal : How Left Is Right & Right Is Wrong


    And a lot more. Surprisingly, lots of these books sell a lot, preaching to the choir of the converted, yet contributing no new ideas or being slightly interesting.

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    1. Re:All political pundit books by thorgil · · Score: 1

      So... You have read them all...?. Impressive.

      Why do you read them if you don't like em?

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    2. Re:All political pundit books by Sebastopol · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only the books by left-wingers are crap, the books by the right-wingers are all 100% accurate and truthful.

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    3. Re:All political pundit books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The funny part about your list is that Al Franken devotes a section of his book to pointing out how much of a liar Ann Coulter is.

    4. Re:All political pundit books by Capt_Troy · · Score: 1

      Ever listen to Hannity, Goes like this.

      Guest: "Hello Sean, I'm from Phoenix."

      Sean: "Oh hey, I'll be out there in 3 weeks to do a signing for my new book 'blah blah liberals suck'."

      Guest: "great. I wanted to ask about howard dean"

      Sean: "Yea, he's a liberal and I talk about that in my new book 'blah blah liberals suck'. It's a great book, buy a certificate for a signed copy on my online store."

      Guest: "okay. so howard dean..."

      Sean: "you should really read my new book, 'blah blah liberals suck'"

      and so on.

    5. Re:All political pundit books by pclminion · · Score: 1
      And let's not forget the eloquent masterpiece:

      Colon (a.k.a. "The Double Dot"): The Most Overused Punctuational Mark In Modern Literary Titling

    6. Re:All political pundit books by jayhawk88 · · Score: 1

      You know, just reading those titles makes me want to puke. I have a feeling if I ever tried to read anything of them, I'd end up torching it in the street.

      Partisan Political Whores suck. Do not support anything they do, on either side of the aisle.

    7. Re:All political pundit books by lowmagnet · · Score: 1

      Haha, that's funny. Nice troll.

      The books from the left actually cite clean sources, instead of taking things out of context. In fact, two of the books from the left focus on showing the facts behind the stories, and show how authors like O'Reilly and Coulter twist quotes and statistics to their liking.

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    8. Re:All political pundit books by lowmagnet · · Score: 1

      If it were O'Reilly, he'd later deny saying it was in his book. That he "Never said that" it was in his book. That anyone who quotes him is a liberal and a jerk for calling him to task.

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    9. Re:All political pundit books by agslashdot · · Score: 1

      I'm not a citizen ( I can't vote ), and yet I do find some of these books quite fascinating. I managed to read big chunks of all of them. The worst is undoubtedly Coulter.

      Coulter's a real bitch. I wonder how anybody can stand her. She says stuff like - "you must have the IQ of a microwave if you think there is another way of thinking besides liberal & rightwing."

      She totally knocks centrists. Mainstream USA is not as polarized as she makes it out to be. A lot of liberals & rightwing folks do find consensus on several issues - but they simply don't exist in Coulter's hate-filled world.

    10. Re:All political pundit books by Metaldsa · · Score: 1

      Even right wing people think Ann Coulter is nuts. She is f'd up in the head and this comes from a republican yuppie.

      Anyone with a head knows voting down the party lines is retarded anyhow. And that my friend is called politics.

    11. Re:All political pundit books by Sebastopol · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thanks for not modding me a troll, despite the fact it was a huge troll! ;-)

      I frequently read "spinsanity.com" and they covered all of these books. They try to be fair and objective, and what I've concluded is that the wave of books from the left, which followed the wave from the right, tend to more factually supported and less fanciful. Moore is a bit flamboyant and admittedly exaggerates, but Al Franken does mix in good satire with his solid facts, and Joe Conason was really sincere in his attempt to shed light. Compare those three to the rants of O'Reilly, Coulter, et al, that serve no other purpose than to revv folks up for war.

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    12. Re:All political pundit books by master_rickster · · Score: 1

      I second "Dude, Where's My Country", I read Bill O'Reilly and it just seemed like a long Preen to me.

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    13. Re:All political pundit books by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      Actually, there really is a top-selling book in the UK at present called "Eats, Shoots and Leaves", which takes a comic look at punctuation and why it still matters.

      I was going to give an Amazon link for the curious, but apparently putting any variation on the title or a book, or its author, into their search box now produces nothing but a useless list of "featured" products. In two minutes of searching -- more than I'd waste if I were going to buy a book -- I couldn't find it. :-(

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    14. Re:All political pundit books by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      They may be "ego trips" but Alterman's, Franken's and Moore's writings are rarely echoed on the mainstream media, while Coulter et al are the mainstream media. At the very least these books shouldn't be combined into one category considering half of them are using the printed word to by-pass the limited discussions the corporate media allows. Afterall, it takes money, will, and a possible loss of viewers to say something even remotely controversial on television and like the internet, the printed word frees up the discussion.

    15. Re:All political pundit books by Kris_J · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I enjoyed Dude, Where's My Country?. I don't think you can just dismiss "political" books as easily as you have, especially when someone steals an entire US election. (Also, while Moore is obviously anti-Republican, he's not by any means complimentary about the Democrats either.)

    16. Re:All political pundit books by pclminion · · Score: 1
      I found it on the UK Amazon site: Eats, Shoots and Leaves .

      Thanks for pointing me at that, I'll be interested to read it.

    17. Re:All political pundit books by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      Thanks for the recommendation. It sounds pretty interesting. I couldn't find anything on Amazon.com (US), but I did find this on Amazon.co.uk:

      "Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation" by Lynne Truss

    18. Re:All political pundit books by mrgreenfur · · Score: 1

      the political positions are predictable, but the content is not. for example, michael moore wants oprah to run. furthermore, the al franken book is hella funny.

      i'd suggest them both. (maybe wait for softcover...)

      furthermore, unlike other books, political (and current-affairs) books need to be appreicated immediatly.

    19. Re:All political pundit books by Augusto · · Score: 1

      Has it been established that Coulter is human?

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    20. Re:All political pundit books by tr0p · · Score: 1

      They figured out the Get-Rich formula: 1) Buff your own pole 2) Make it into a book for the sheep 3) Profit!

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    21. Re:All political pundit books by Saeger · · Score: 1
      pclminion:

      I ask you, "I've got the colon down pat, but my problem is joining clauses with semicolons; I can't seem to use them in the 'right' places -- because I suck (badly) at punctuation, but I still abuse it because I know that so few will be able to see through me." :)

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    22. Re:All political pundit books by Saeger · · Score: 1
      They're not all bad. I read (actually, listened to) Bill Maher's When You Ride Alone, You Ride With Bin Laden .

      So, do your part to fight terrorism by helping the economy by BUYING THE BOOK. BUY IT! NOW! Or the terrorists have already won. :)

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    23. Re:All political pundit books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please don't ever use the phrase "hella" again. That is all.

    24. Re:All political pundit books by dasmegabyte · · Score: 1

      that serve no other purpose than to revv folks up for war.

      Au contraire. Their books serve no other purpose than to make these guys money. With Limbaugh going deaf and currently in rehab, there are plenty of wandering dittoheads looking to move on to a new selfish asshole pundit known for direspecting the opposition and lying outright when it serves the purpose. Coulter and O'Reilly really want that position. And oh, have they got the formula down pat.

      Of course, the liberal pundits aren't helping by being silly, smug babies who are often afraid to publically attack their victims, or draw them into debate. I mean, I appreciate Franken's book on a factual level, but I can't have a book on my shelf next to Plato and Cicero called "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them."

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    25. Re:All political pundit books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I appreciate Franken's book on a factual level, but I can't have a book on my shelf next to Plato and Cicero called "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them."

      The title is a pun on Coulter's book titles.

    26. Re:All political pundit books by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

      but I can't have a book on my shelf next to Plato and Cicero called

      LOL! Good thing I got the paperback: I put it with my Cliff's notes and crossword puzzle books!

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    27. Re:All political pundit books by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 1

      the books by the right-wingers are all 100% accurate and truthful

      Don't you mean "fair and balanced"? because that's even funnier.

  39. The Da Vinci Code by Templar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown was a lot of fun, even if the Priory of Sion has turned out to be a fraud.

    I'm looking forward to his next book which will be about Freemasonry.

    1. Re:The Da Vinci Code by dr_canak · · Score: 1

      I've not read the Da Vinci Code yet, but it does sound interesting. I read a recent review here:

      http://www.skeptic.com (Scroll down the webpage a bit)

      that details quite a bit of the "mythos" described in the book. I knew nothing about the book till i read this review, but it certainly sounds like a fun read.

      jeff

    2. Re:The Da Vinci Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody needed to prove the Priory of Sion as being a fraud--"Holy Blood Holy Grail" proved it even though it wasn't the authors' intent.

      The forward to the book even acknowledges that their "research" was unorthodox but how they could have missed as much as they did is uncanny. The whole story can be easily picked apart without any fore-knowledge but knowing the story makes the authors look like fools.

    3. Re:The Da Vinci Code by feldsteins · · Score: 1

      I haven't read the Da Vinci Code and I don't feel that I have to, having already read the same story in his earlier work, Angels & Demons. I mean, not just that it's the same main character, in the same type of situation, he also ends up playing footsie with a hot young thing who's related to someone who dies early in the story. It's the same story by all accounts.

      Furthermore, Angels & Demons wasn't terribly well-written. The characters are cliche, the dialogue is embarrassingly stilted and the plot takes so many hairpin turns that by the end you're not sure who the good guys and the bad guys are anymore. I was rolling my eyes at this book from the beginning when we are introduced to a Harvard professor who literally had no idea what a particle accelerator was. I mean, c'mon.

      Dan Brown seems to have one thing going for him: he develops a Cool Idea For A Consipiracy. Then he milks it for all it's worth with his rather mediocre skills as a novelist. He should perhaps be writing screenplays for Hollywood thrillers starring Harrison Ford, maybe.

      With all that said, I did not hate Angels & Demons. It was a fun ride even while I chuckled and groaned my way through it. But I have no desire to read his newer work now that I've a) seen his skills as a writer, and b) been exposed to what is essentially the same story with the same characters.

      If you're looking for a better book try Life of Pi by Yann Martel. it's about a precocious Indian teenager who emigrates to Canada at 16. He and his zookeeper family are aboard a cargo ship full of animals when it sinks in the middle of the Pacific. The remaining 2/3 of the book deals with his survival at sea in a 25-foot lifeboat. One catch. He's in it with a 250-lb tiger. Gripping story and beautifully written.

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    4. Re:The Da Vinci Code by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 1

      I was actually disappointed by the DaVinci Code.

      One thing that for some reason really annoyed me was the cribbed-from-Fyodor's place descriptions. It was all tour-guide size comparisons. How many times must I read the square footage of a building or a plaza? And must I be told that the Louvre is longer than three Eiffel Towers laid end to end, while the Grand Gallery is as long as three Washington Monuments?

      Unfortunately, Brown felt the need to go into detail on how all the high-tech gadgets (that were secondary to the plot) work; even more unfortunately, he got it all wrong. Cell phones ringing on planes over the mid- Atlantic? A tracking dot that "continuously transmits its location to a Global Positioning System satellite that [police] can monitor" which works to an accuracy of two feet, even when the trackee is underground? Please. It'd be better to leave out the details, and let us imagine our own implementations.

      I dunno. Having recently read the Gnostic writings fron Nag Hammadi (in translation), I liked how he wove the writings into the plot. But I'd recommend reading the nonfiction The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels for an even more amazing read. That certainly made me think more about what I thought I knew about the history of Christianity than anything else I've ever read...

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    5. Re:The Da Vinci Code by _generica · · Score: 1

      Two criticisms ....
      (both of which I read in reviews elsewhere, and agree with)

      1. The whole premise of why the grandfather left the clues for sophie, and tried to pass on the location of the grail is that only 3 (4?) people knew of its location, and the others had been killed, leaving just him. OH QUICK! I have to pass on this information, or it will die here ... and then at the end, meeting her grandmother, she says "oh, its ok, the society will rebuild, there are always people ready to move up, and we know the location" ... Hmm. No inconsistency there.

      2) The awful bit at the end, where they turn to each other, and go "OMG! I LUV U!" out of no-where. can someone say 'tacked on romantic ending'

      Aside from that, I loved it

    6. Re:The Da Vinci Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was an excellently entertaining book, a real page turner. It is NOT non-fiction though. The detractors that I have heard knock it down all seem to get caught up in the "well it didnt/cant really happen that way" line of thinking. Even below, I see someone nitpicking about a cellphone over the Atlantic, and GPS underground. Its a story man, let it slide a little bit. I was so engrossed in the story that I didnt notice any of these things. He paints wonderfully detailed histories of the organizations involved in the story, with some nice material for those who enjoy a good conspiracy.
      I do agree that they watered down a great story by throwing in some romance stuff at the very end with Hollywood type predictability. It was just unnecessary, though mercifully minor and undramatic.
      While Brown hit on all cylinders with this book, I did read some of his other stuff after being so impressed with the DaVinci Code, and it was quite dissapointing- and most of all- formulaic. It was like reading the DaVinci Code all over again, except the names changed and the story was not quite as detailed or interesting. Same ultra clever main character, solving coded puzzles, side characters whom youre not sure are good or not till the end, and a bit of a conspiracy theory thrown in.

    7. Re:The Da Vinci Code by Mr_Huber · · Score: 1

      I agree. I found "The Da Vinci Code" very poorly written. The characters were dull, rather unbelievable and seemed more concerned with moving the plot along than rational, consistent behavior. Your comments on the technology and geography are spot on. The start of most chapters read like Fodor's guide to Foo, by Tom Clancy. The villains were laughably diabolic. Had one had a moustache, he would have twirled it.

      The star clearly was the theory about Grail. That kept me turning pages and re-examining old art books to see if what the author claimed was accurate. But in the end, I felt like this was a sort of Cliff Notes rewrite of "Foucault's Pendulum".

      By the way, if one has not read "Foucault's Pendulum" or "The Name of the Rose", do so immediately. Yes, they're dense, complex and a bit tricky, but far more rewarding books that "The Da Vinci Code".

      Right now, I'm plowing through Patrick O'Brian's Aubry-Maurtain books, made famous recently by the movie "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World". The books are a bit difficult, as the style is deliberately anachronistic, but the stories are fantastic - well drawn characters, interesting plots and a real sense of 'being there' so difficult to achieve in historical novels.

    8. Re:The Da Vinci Code by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 0

      I haven't read the book quite yet, but the whole "Jesus' child" thing is simply just some monstrously trendy philosophy, which has been done in a Gabriel Knight computer game. It seems that Dan Brown has all but stolen the premise from the game (which, I'm sure, had been lifted from certain other things). The game I thought was fun. Dan Brown and the fashionable furor over this book I find irritating.

    9. Re:The Da Vinci Code by hao2lian · · Score: 1

      Yep. Same here. I like how the book forces "history shock" upon the reader until you watch the ABC special on it.

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    10. Re:The Da Vinci Code by watzinaneihm · · Score: 1

      Well, From your username, templar, I understand that you must be a medieval Europe fan. In which case you must have read "Name of the Rose" or something else by Umberto Eco? I have read a few of those, and so Davinci Code was very watery, like reaching for a glass of Vodka and finding its just water.
      Eco does not give any historical details, does not say why something is the way it is etc. and so you need an encyclopedia nearby if you have not had european history in school. Its all very complicated and tense till the end when it almost ends in an anti-climax (a lot of fun nonetheless).DaVinci Code on the other hand was too politically correct, too easy to read. Not to mention, has many incorrect facts set in the current world. I suppose it was written for the mainstream, and I should have read this one before any of Eco's books, but still...

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    11. Re:The Da Vinci Code by will_die · · Score: 1

      The first 75% of the book was good, then he starts having the characters perform impossible conversations just to thrown the reader off also toward the last half of the book he stops giving the readers all the information the main characters have.
      Overall it was ok, but I am really surprise it has stayed at in the top 10 most of the year since its release, which means the movie is already in the works.

  40. OMG GUYZ DO NOT CLICK TAHT LINK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IT"S A VARY GROSS PICTARE of a woman with HER BUTT in teh air with teh POOPIE comuing out of her poophole and it OMGH IT SI TEH DSIGUSTING OMG OMGO OMGOMGOMG ROFLFLFLFES DON NOT CLICKOS THIS AT ALL KEKEKEKEEK

  41. Work book: Treason, by Ann Coulter. by SpaceRook · · Score: 1

    The sad thing is that there are people who will actually get this garbage for a Christmas present.

  42. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by geekoid · · Score: 0, Redundant

    ditto for the previous 9 books.

    Like I say, there a great set of 300 page books stretched out into a set of 1000 page books.

    Do we really need 3 pages on the fact that it is foggy?

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  43. Quicksilver is leaden by tjic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The ironically named _Quicksilver_ is the most disappointingly leaden book it has been my displeasure to read in recent years.

    After _Cryptonomicon_ my expectations were high. Early on in _Quicksilver_ I realized that there was no way this book could be as good as the earlier one, so I adjusted my hopes downward accordingly...and even then, I was disappointed.

    The flaws are numerous.

    The one thing that everyone knows about the book is that it contains a frantic pile of trivia. I was actually looking forward to this aspect of the book, given that I enjoy random learning opportunities as much as the next geek, and given that this is one part of _Cryptonomicon_ that I was enthused about. _QS_ disappoints in this regard. To my mind there are two main bins that trivia are sorted in to: (1) those random items that are capable of clicking in an interesting way into the knowledge structure I already have; and (2) utterly random tidbits. NS delivered a few of the former, and a few truck-loads of the latter. In so far as the trivia was interesting, I already knew it (Germanic witch trials, etymology of the word "dollar", the broad outlines and purposes of the various 16th century political structures), and in so far as the trivia was not something I already knew, I found it dreadfully boring (hail-storms of random names of royalty, many of them playing minimal roles in the plot, etc.).

    Ah. I used the word "plot", so I've segued onto the next region of disappointment. _QS_ does not have a plot, in the conventional sense. Sure, in a 900 page novel (or a 2,700 page novel, really), one wouldn't expect the broad sweep of the action to be clear by page 50, or 100...but by page 500 or so, one would hope to have an idea of where things might be going. The book has Theme aplenty.

    The Theme, however ("Things Really Changed a Whole Lot, Religiously, Economically, Politically, and Scientifically"), is big, but too insubstantial and too vague to construct a huge novel like this on. _A Winter's Tale_ managed to work very well with out a real plot - it could hang off of the Theme that "New York changes a lot, and is magical through the ages". Then again, _A Winter's Tale_ was about 1/9th the length of Stephenson's Inflated Series.

    Speaking of inflation, this book needed an editor, badly. Dialogue and exposition are clunky in many many places. For that matter, dialogue and exposition are poorly differentiated. There's a joke about 1950's science fiction that 3/4 of the plot and background information are revealed in "As you know, Bob" asides. The same is true of _QS_. There's some minor variation on a theme: there's "As you know", there is "I need not mention the fact that X ...< 1,000 words elided >...because you already know that", and there is "as everyone in the town knew...".

    There's a persistent and pernicious meme in the art world that to truly convey some situations you need to recreate those situations for the audience. Thus, the only way to convey tedium is through a four hour movie, etc. NS seemed to be held by this meme: to convey the intellectual ferment and vast scope of the 17th century he felt the need write a book that was adrift in a ferment and vast in scope. Certainly he could not have conveyed these things in a novella, but that does not mean that he could not have pruned perhaps a third of what he wrote.

    The book is large enough that there's a Dramatis Personae at the end, which was somewhat useful...but it didn't work wonderfully well for me, because the entries were fairly short and defined the characters (well, historical figures) mostly in terms of descriptors and events that did not take place inside the book. If I come across a character who I know was present 500 pages earlier, but I'm trying to remember whether that character was a alchemist or a merchant, it helps little to learn that the character was a friend of the Duke of Wessex (or what have you). This is not a huge departure from how Dramatis Personae are usu

    1. Re:Quicksilver is leaden by cindy · · Score: 1

      This is a very accurate review of Quicksilver. I understand that QS is meant to be a chronicle of these character's lives, and most lives are made up of a series of incidents - not neatly resolved stories. However, some indication of a resolution would be nice. What happened to Daniel on the ship? Why was Blackbeard after him? What happened to Jack? I expect that some or all of these issues will be addressed in the future volumes. The Question is: after 900+ pages, do I still care?

      Also, how much detail is really necessary? The constant description of fashion and court intrigue were like being locked in a library containing nothing but "People" magazine.

      At this point I'm glad (relieved?) to have finished QS and I'm ready to move on to something more entertaining. However, I know I have an obsesive need for completion and the next two volumes loom in my future like a prison sentence.

    2. Re:Quicksilver is leaden by JCC7274 · · Score: 1

      You should go to www.nealstephenson.com and read NS comments on the length of his novels. It explains quite well his reasons for adding in all of the detail. Go to the author section and select verbosity.

    3. Re:Quicksilver is leaden by cindy · · Score: 1

      Mr. Stephenson states... "Personally, I am delighted to read extremely long books, or series of books, as long as they hold my interest."

      And herein lies the rub. Cryptonomicon could have been 100 pages longer and it would still have held my interest. Quicksilver drones on and on about things that do little to support the story and which leave the reader (this reader anyway) exhausted. If I was reading a programming textbook I would expect to spend some time skimming over the dross. I don't expect to skim large sections of a work of fiction I'm reading for enjoyment. I'm not a fan of the "cult of brevity" as one look at my sagging bookshelf will attest. However, I think an author ought to move on once a point is made. Better editing would have made for a better book IMHO.

    4. Re:Quicksilver is leaden by LarsWestergren · · Score: 1

      Thank you, thank you! I really disliked QS, and have on several occasions started to write a review on Slashdot, but just thinking about that slow plodding lead brick of a book made me so depressed I stopped. And here you sum up everything I thought about the book, and more things as well, more elegantly than I ever could. Thanks.

      Oh, and I also hated Cryptonomicom, but for other reasons. Big fan of Zodia,c Snow Crash and Diamond Age though. :-)

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  44. Worst book ever by bigberk · · Score: 1

    I thought this would make my year but turns out it was nothing but a lie

    1. Re:Worst book ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Listen my dear who ever posted this message. I find it interesting that suddenly my book is trasshed by an irreverent incompetent like you. I have helped over 1000 people make their fantasy come true having a threesome, obviously you do not have what it takes to pull this off and that is why you decided to cowardly post a negative message. Why didn't you contact me directly?
      Most likely because you'r dick is the size of a peanut and you are embarrarsed to act as a real man.
      best regards

  45. The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My grandmother gave me one for last Xmas. According to some sources, it's #1 bestseller of all times.

    I am sorry, it's boring and redundant, I couldn't take it after page 20 or so.

    1. Re:The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to some sources, it's #1 bestseller of all times.

      Other sources give that honor to Mao Zedong Sixiang (Mao Zedong Thought, usually sloppily translated as "The Thoughts of Mao Zedong"). It had a much shorter lifetime than The Bible, possibly because it has much less sex and violence, indeed it is now out of print. But in its short lifetime it sold over a billion copies.

      It would be interesting to see some figures.

  46. I haven't read Hillary Clinton's book but... by rbird76 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's probably an example of the "I'm going to run for President so I need to appear intellectual by writing a book" thing. It probably was focus-grouped before publication - that way she doesn't have anything in writing to embarrass her later. Since the books written by future/current Presidential candidates seem to have had anything interesting strained out of them to avoid conflicts with future political positions, they're probably best avoided anyway. For politics, there are probably better places to go for informed commentary on their plans, and as personal background it probably isn't very useful.

    The more interesting version of her book should come out about thirty years from now.

    1. Re:I haven't read Hillary Clinton's book but... by spRed · · Score: 1

      Umm yeah, that is why Al Gore suggested banning the internal combustion engine in "Earth in the Balance." He must have polled tens of tens of "swing voters."

      To paraphrase Michael Criton's recent address:
      If it isn't a religion why do they call themselves environmentalists, and why do they support environmentalism?

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    2. Re:I haven't read Hillary Clinton's book but... by wayoutthere · · Score: 1

      Then again, you didn't READ THE BOOK! Conjecture doesn't get you anywhere...except maybe your own show on Fox News.

    3. Re:I haven't read Hillary Clinton's book but... by scotch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If it's not a religion, why do they call themselves "pianists", and why do they support, uh, "pianism"?

      If it's not a religion, why do they call themselves, uh, skeptics, and why do they support "skepticism"?

      If it's not a religion, why do they call themselves "plagiarists", and why do they support, uh, "plagiarism"?

      ... repeat with optimism, opportunism, naturalism, hedonism, yada yada yada ...

      Havne't read much Criton (sphere, not great, but readable), but that single quote makes me think he's a drooling asshat. Comments?

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    4. Re:I haven't read Hillary Clinton's book but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you managed to realize that he's a drooling asshat before reading "Sphere?" Man, did YOU dodge a bullet there! Damnation, that book is yet another example of how the man can spin up a good story and then utterly destroy it at the end.

      On the other hand, at least with "Prey" you get a good idea that the book's garbage long before the last few pages.

  47. Bringing Down the House by kidgenius · · Score: 1

    Though it came out late last year, I wasn't able to read it until this year. Bringin g Down the House was a really cool book to read and was extremely interesting. The author created a great story around the true events.

    1. Re:Bringing Down the House by 19usc2462bH · · Score: 1
      Bringing Down the House: The Inside Story of Six M.I.T. Students Who Took Vegas for Millions

      Would this be a good gift for a math geek? Is there a lot of interesting math in it, or is math just a minor character?

      According to Amazon, the book description claims that the book deals with an exclusive group of audacious MIT math geniuses who legally took the casinos for over three million dollars.

    2. Re:Bringing Down the House by kidgenius · · Score: 1

      It's a story about card counting and the huge production they created to get away with it. There is a chapter or two that goes in depth into how it all works, and those would be of the greatest math interest, while the rest describes how it all started and then all of the close calls they had, the parties, and how they got caught eventually.

  48. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Brilliant. Simply brilliant.

    You get to the last book of a dekalogy only to realize that the author sucks.
    Sturgeon's Law, dude, means that you have inverted the true number of Wheel of Time tomes that suck.
    Jordan's corollary: Sturgeon was an optimist.

    A friend suggested that Jordan's works were a manifestation of his subliminal hatred for trees spawned from the time he fell out of a tree as a child. Why else would so mulch wood pulp be wasted on his dreck?

  49. What category? by thorgil · · Score: 1

    You forgot to place it in a category!!!

    best or worst...?! .....INCOMING!!!...
    # Begin flamewar!!!

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    1. Re:What category? by shftleft · · Score: 1

      I don't read enough books to place them in a category of "best of" or "worst of" 2003. Just thought I'd share a couple that are worth reading IMO.

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    2. Re:What category? by thorgil · · Score: 1

      Ahhh... now I see what you mean.

      # /emote bonks his head.

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  50. Literature?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    being a literature geek, I thought it would also be appropriate to ask for the best and worst books of 2003
    If you're a literature geek, then does literature = sci-fi and fantasy? That's not what I learned in school. Good thing I have slashdot to reeducate me.
    1. Re:Literature?? by Zardoz44 · · Score: 1
      Literature basically means anything. Though Scifi/Fantasy is given a bad name these days, most literature from 300+ years ago is basically fantasy anyway. Paradise Lost, The Faery Queene, Beowulf, Gulliver's Travels, etc... There's piles of work about myths and legends, stuff that was science fiction at the time, etc. Does anyone say that H.G. Wells and Jules Verne did not write "literature?".

      But as with anything, there's a lot of crap & pulp scifi/fantasy.

  51. The history of science is "in" by Scarblac · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read Kim Stanley Robinson's _The Years of Rice and Salt_ and I like it a lot. It was a Hugo nominee. It's an alternate history, where all of Europe was destroyed by the Plague (instead of only a third) and world history is shaped by the Chinese, the Indians and the world of Islam.

    I'm reading _Quicksilver_ now, and it's actually really cool that they are many parallels. Alchemists, invention of the scientific method, the books keep reminding me of each other. Very nice.

    I don't know if there are any people who find the first part of Quicksilver hard going: read on, the second part is brilliant :-)

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    1. Re:The history of science is "in" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robinson, like Stephen King, should be forced to create his manuscripts on a manual typewriter. That would keep them to 400 pages or less.

    2. Re:The history of science is "in" by kubrick · · Score: 1

      Snap. I've just finished Years..., and am 200 pages into Quicksilver (should have a bit more time to read it soon). :)

      Quicksilver's slow, but I'm enjoying it.

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    3. Re:The history of science is "in" by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

      AOL!

      Kim Stanley Robinson's The Years of Rice and Salt is a great read. It does get a bit muddled in places, but that's part of its charm.

      I've heard people complain about the reincarnation bits, but I absolutely cannot agree. They fit in perfectly with the rest of the book and work well as a device for keeping a larger plot going through the book.

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  52. The last thing a geek needs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...is yet another list that conforms to the Slashdot groupthink. Go read any non-geek book or simply go outside. You'll get nothing but the same-old same-old from this crowd

  53. best & worst crooks of 2003 & beyond? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, where to start? no matter, we ALL know who they are, despite their .constaNT spew over the airwaves procullaming yOUR great fortune to be their own personal doing/gift to US?

    stay clear of these foulcurrs as the big flash occurs, as you would not want to get any of that unprecedented evile stuff on you?

    consult with/trust in yOUR creators.... get ready to brighten up?

    the badtoll continues? the creators' planet/population rescue, & newclear power mandates, will be fulfilled.

    has anywon tried robbIE's gnu 'dating' service yet?

    mynuts won, happy gnu year?

  54. Linux From Scratch by Nasarius · · Score: 5, Interesting
    LFS and BLFS 5.0 are certainly two of the most useful, informative "books" I've read.

    And I have to agree with those bashing Robert Jordan, even though I haven't read his latest pile of crap. WoT is a series that started out so amazingly good, then was ruined by its author. It's his maddeningly slow pace, and more importantly, the fact that every single one of his female characters (except perhaps Min) is an arrogant b!tch. They're all extremely annoying, some more so than others.

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  55. One of my favorites of the year... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative


    Bringing Down the House: The Inside Story of Six M.I.T. Students Who Took Vegas for Millions - Ben Mezrich

    Amazon link

    1. Re:One of my favorites of the year... by 19usc2462bH · · Score: 1
      Bringing Down the House: The Inside Story of Six M.I.T. Students Who Took Vegas for Millions

      Would this be a good gift for a math geek? Is there a lot of interesting math in it, or is math just a minor character?

      According to Amazon, the book description claims that the book deals with an exclusive group of audacious MIT math geniuses who legally took the casinos for over three million dollars.

  56. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by rylin · · Score: 1

    I'm looking forward to the long version of New Spring, due early January.
    It's the first of the prequels jordan is writing - Starting with Rand's birth on Dragonmount.
    Hopefully it'll let Jordan stop getting lost in his own threads for a while.

  57. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by tepeka · · Score: 1
    I find that the story is far too verbose and would benefit greatly from a lengthy and discriminating editor
    Why should the height of the editor make any difference?
  58. Dan Brown's : The Da Vinci code by ferratus · · Score: 1

    Personnally, my favorite book of the year would have to be this one. Da Vinci Code is a thriller / detective book that's absolutly brilliant.

    What I think makes it better than other books of it's genre is that the story is based on real facts. This particular book is about Da Vinci's work and religion in general.

    I've since read Dan Brown's other 3 books and they are all quite good. While they're not as good as Da Vinci Code, they are still quite good. If you've read DVC, you might want to check them out.

    If you haven't read it yet, I highly recommend it. This book has changed my view of what a good thriller was.

    --
    IP Therefore I am.
    1. Re:Dan Brown's : The Da Vinci code by Dante · · Score: 1

      I disagree it was crap. poorly written, derivative, wooden characters, awful research, plot was strait out of a pulp fiction novel. He had no new ideas period. It's like bad Michael Crichton (is there ever good Crichton?).

      --
      "think of it as evolution in action"
    2. Re:Dan Brown's : The Da Vinci code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Try picking up even a basic history book. Half of Brown's "theories" are out and out wrong.

      For example, the Council of Niceia did not "vote" Christ into Diety. There is plenty of documentation to show that early Christians (early as 100AD) worshipped Christ as God. You may not agree with their belief, but you cannot deny that there were people who believed it. There are other examples.

    3. Re:Dan Brown's : The Da Vinci code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Half" is hopeful. Every single fucking thing that I had personal knowledge
      of was completely wrong. The things that I was not sure of and then
      researched, were wrong. The only things that he seemed to get right were
      his descriptions of real-world places.

      I'd be more forgiving if he weren't trying to pass this shite off as fact.
      As is, a good half of this book is a vehicle for his own personal
      feminist-tinged Gnosticism. Read interviews of him; he actually *believes*
      in the pseudo-history he shoved in here.

      Bit of a shame, 'cause there's a passable thriller hidden in there. Nothing
      great, but a decent enough time-waster.

      This wasn't the worst book I read this year, but it was the worst of those
      that came out this year.

      ...

      If you're on Slashdot, there's a good chance you're a computer geek. If so,
      and you want to see how utterly wrong Dan Brown can get things in an area in
      which you would have more knowledge of, try reading Digital Fortress.

  59. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by TheGreatGraySkwid · · Score: 2, Informative

    As someone who's been prominently involved in RJ fandom for the last decade, I'd have to say...you're absolutely right.

    I'd probably get up to book 7 on the "to read" list, just because of Dumai's Wells, but it's been a cereal-varnished-saucer sled ride from there.

    (ObLink: 17 minutes of story after book 10 ends)

    Best book published this year that I've read? Probably Brust's The Lord of Castle Black. Most of my reading this year has not been of books written this year, though. Best book I read for the first time this year? Probably either Gaiman's American Gods or Card's Ender's Game.

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    The Humblest Mollusk on the Net
  60. Best Movies by cthrall · · Score: 1

    Oh, and I'll get flamed for this, but I really liked Matrix: Revolution and ROTK..."Master and Commander" was good as well.

  61. P*rno by Irvine Welsh by wondafucka · · Score: 1

    The sequel to Trainspotting starts off with Sickboy wanking it to Hillary and Monica by page 3. The characters are truly depraved and messed up. While not all of us are perfect, most of us slashdotters avoid the dregs of society and all their ills. It's good to get some insight to the book's underworld.

  62. Re:Robert "No closure" Jordan by rylin · · Score: 2, Funny

    There are neither beginnings nor endings to the turning of the Wheel of Time :P

  63. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by frohike · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've read this series several times (generally right before a new book is about to come out, so I can have the full plot in mind) and I have to agree. It seems like all the Jordan fans I know agree as well. We all wait now until the new books hit the used shelf at the book store, and grab it at half price.

    I'm re-reading them again right now actually, just because I got bored and wanted something to read. It's really, really sad, knowing what they are going to come to, since the first few books are just awesome. He's managed to create this incredibly intricate and believable world, and then proceeds to run all the characters into the ground (SPOILER:Morgase as a fraidy-cat servant?!:SPOILER) and spawn so many plot threads that he ignores entire major characters per book. And yeah, the several pages about a bath, or a bank of fog, or.... that gets kinda annoying too.

    The sucker that I am though, I'm gonna finish reading the series as it comes out just because I want to know what happens. I can make some guesses, but he always seems to have a rabbit to pull out of the hat when you least expect it. :)

    That's one thing I'll say about the series that is cool, I read over the WoT FAQ recently before starting reading again, and from the discussions in there and having read the later books already, it was truly amazing to me how early he had started laying down the plots that happen 8000 pages later.

  64. Vernon God Little by szmccauley · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Hands down the best piece of literature that I read this year was Vernon God Little by DBC (Dirty But Clean) Pierre. And it recently won the Booker prize so I wasn't alone in my opinion of this book. Highly recommended.

    I can't remember seeing any films, other than LoTR's, that really intrigued me this year past. There were lots that I saw, but none that really stand out. It's possible that I just don't remember anymore though, because that is becoming a constant state of affairs.

    1. Re:Vernon God Little by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1
      My first mod parent up post, coz I was going to post just that. :-D

      As with anything Booker, the value of Vernon God Little isn't in its story, which, was actually pretty childish. Rather, it was in the narration and characterisation; you begin to understand small-town Texas even if you've never been there.

  65. The Machine Crusade (Dune Series) by princewally · · Score: 1

    By Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson

    I haven't read a single book from this series that I didn't like.

    I have read every one except the dune encyclopedia.

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    -
    "Vengeance is fine," sayeth the Lord.
    1. Re:The Machine Crusade (Dune Series) by cblguy · · Score: 1
      I have yet to read the Machine Crusade (not in paperback yet :) ), but I've read all of the others. (all 6 originals at least twice, plus the other prequels)

      Frankly, the BH/KA style is more popcorn and bubblegum writing. FH's style was much more cereberal, especially in the latter Dune books. It's like a Three Musketeers bar vs. a box of Milk Duds. Both are OK, but one will take you much longer to chew. ;) I've read all of KA's Star Wars books, and they are among the better of that series, but they're still 'fast page turners', not something that actually makes you think (but that covers most of the SW series of books - don't even get me started on the Vong books :-@ ).

      Back to Dune prequels, I was very disappointed in the continuity of the prequels with the FH series (Paul born on Kaitain and not Caladan as FH said?). To me, it seems like BH/KA are going after the 'quick story', and not putting the soul in to it like FH did with the original series. I will buy and read the book when it comes out on Paperback, tho.

    2. Re:The Machine Crusade (Dune Series) by princewally · · Score: 1

      You're right. It's not nearly as intellectual as the originals. I've read all of the originals more than a dozen times.

      I do like all of the backstory in the prequels, particularly the Butlerian Jihad books. BH and KA took the majority of the storyline from FH's notes, so I don't see the continuity being an issue. Paul was raised on Caladan, and I don't think FH ever explicitly said he was born there.

      I do like the Butlerian Jihad books better than the "House" prequels.

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      "Vengeance is fine," sayeth the Lord.
    3. Re:The Machine Crusade (Dune Series) by Rai · · Score: 1

      Actually, there was a quote:

      (copied from another messageboard and not verified by me.)
      And take the most special care that you locate Muad'Dib in his place: the planet Arrakis. Do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on Caladan and lived his first fifteen years there. Arrakis, the planet known as Dune, is forever his place.

      -from "Manual of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan


      But I don't complain about the continuity errors. They don't seem so significant to me. I think BH/KJA did a great job with the Prelude To Dune series (just started The Butlerian Jihad.)

  66. Decipher! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about Decipher by Stel Pavlou?

  67. Bill O'Reilly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love Bill O'Reilly, but his book was just not coherent in the sense of being able to make a cohesive argument. If he spent maybe another week or two on it, it might have come across as "interesting" instead of "profitable, thanks to fans".

    Happily, I regifted it to a faux friend ;-)

    1. Re:Bill O'Reilly by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      So you liked, Living with Herpes(In George W Bush's America) that much huh? :)

      --
      Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
  68. I'd have to say.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As someone who's been prominently involved in RJ fandom for the last decade, I'd have to say...

    Dude, I don't believe I'da told that.

    1. Re:I'd have to say.... by TheGreatGraySkwid · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      *shrug*

      Kind of hard to deny it when you're:
      1) One of the founding members of a prominent fan club
      2) Credited in the WoT FAQ
      3) Chief Editor of the 2nd WoT RPG netbook (almost done!)
      etc., etc....

      I've met some great people who liked Jordan at one point or another. Most of us don't anymore, but the communities are still strong and fun.

      --
      The Humblest Mollusk on the Net
  69. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

    I don't like it either. His books are light and entertaining, but his stories get a bit weak in places and babble a bit -- you don't really need to pay attention.

    "In the Beginning was the Command Line" was some of his most clear prose on the most unclear subject matter. I recommend reading it, just to restore/gain some respect for him.

  70. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My advice, try harder. Obviously you've only read the first chapter or so, since it's almost the only part of the book where haikus occur. I typically take a long time to get into books, and it was the same with Cryptonomicon, but it was definitely worth it. Reading a few pages and then quitting doesn't sound to me like "trying".

  71. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by RickHunter · · Score: 1

    I agree. Book #9 was sort of a high point - it was at least as good as the first five, and the ending was great. But 6-8 was insufferable. And I've not even bothered to try #10. When people you know who liked 6-8 tell you its boring and monotonous...

  72. My two favorites by Cyph · · Score: 1

    Fiction: The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown

    Non-Fiction: Masters of Doom by David Kushner

    1. Re:My two favorites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the davinci code is a worthless book. makes no since because the writer of the book has no real reason to think that mary could have had anything to do with jesus. just because of some guys painting? for one, davinci wasnt even around when that stuff happened. and even if there was some text that was destryoyed and we have no record of that may have related mary to the last supper we have no proof so its all specualtion really we cant discard or determine anything. and mayube the guy's painting just sucked so that dude looks like a girl. but thats why its fictiopn i guess but crummy fiction

  73. Naked Empire (Sword of Truth, Book 8) by princewally · · Score: 1

    by Terry Goodkind

    While this wasn't the best book of the series, it did explaing a lot from previous books and it was a good story.

    This is another series that has yet to disappoint me.

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    "Vengeance is fine," sayeth the Lord.
  74. Nomination for the Worst: by red+floyd · · Score: 1

    DISCLAIMER: I haven't read it, but based on the genre, it has to be up there...

    Either of the LeBron James "instant biographies".

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    The only reason we have the rights we have is that people just like us died to gain those rights. -- Cheerio Boy
  75. The Journey ends by geekoid · · Score: 1

    right in Jordons bank account.

    Jordon: proof the paying per word is wrong.

    --
    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  76. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by Kruid · · Score: 1

    No. Read a couple of his books. Truly couldn't tell the difference between the two - same plot, characters, endings (actually lame excuse for an ending). But, this is /. - we will be hunted out and sent guantanamo for reprogramming. -k

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    Your mind moves quicker than a nun's first curry. - A. Rimmer
  77. whaaaa? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

    'Real Facts' and 'Religion'. So it's a comedy, right? ;)

  78. Non-fiction, correct? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm sorry, but the stuff Moore puts out has to go in the same category of books that Ann Coulter and her cronies write.

    1. Re:Non-fiction, correct? by AntiOrganic · · Score: 3, Offtopic

      I'll often, in debate, equate Michael Moore to being the "liberal Ann Coulter," but in all fairness it's really not the case. Moore is absolutely batshit insane and his ultra-liberal and oftentimes hypocritical/conflicting views on many issues leave much to be desired, but I never got the impression from him, even through that shitfest that was the Oscars, that he blamed conservatives for all of the problems in this country. Sure, he might have named plenty of neocons that he didn't like at various times, but he never set out to imply that conservatives in general were the reason for the sorry state of affairs in America right now.

      This isn't meant to defend Moore, by the way; I still can't stand him. It's meant to demonize Coulter for being the hateful, overly-emotional and illogical cunt she is.

    2. Re:Non-fiction, correct? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's meant to demonize Coulter for being the hateful, overly-emotional and illogical cunt she is.

      Pot, meet kettle.

  79. king leopolds ghost by Rower · · Score: 1

    I don't know if it came out in 2003 but I though King Leopolds ghost was great. Mask of Anarchy but steven ellis was good also. My neice is going to Nigeria and I started reading all I could on africa, How De Body is another good book.

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    Hooo Son! This'uns a Hawg!
  80. Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by Sebastopol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    by Cory Doctorrow.

    First there was Neuromancer.

    Then Snow Crash took the reins.

    "Down and Out..." is the next in the logical procession of futurist novels.

    The world is run by ad-hocracies (basically, large groups of fans), everyone has computers in their brains, collaberation happens in the cerebellum, and crygenics is de rigeur.

    Awesome, awesome book.

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    https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
    1. Re:Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by Capt_Troy · · Score: 1

      Hi Cory!

      Just kidding. It was a good first book (IMHO) but not at the same level as Neuromancer and Snow Crash (again IMHO).

      I bought it (even though it's available for free on the internet) to support the author and his support of electronic freedom. It was good, but I wasn't personally bloan away. I'll buy the next book though, "Eastern Standard Tribe". Sounds interesting.

    2. Re:Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by Voivod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have mixed feelings about this book. As a great scifi idea book it is a lot of fun. Really interesting and entertaining exploration of a bunch of futuristic ideas, social currencies, alternate forms of government, things like that. I grew up a few minutes drive from Disney Land and had many friends who worked there, so I find his obsession with the Cult of the Mouse very entertaining. If that's all you need to get out of a book, I heartily recommend it. The main character of the book is well developed and believable.

      However, the book is structured as a kind of whodoneit mystery, and I found it painfully transparent. It was clear that Mr Doctorow was way out of his element writing this kind of plotline. The mystery was completely obvious almost from the start, and the character development of those involved felt very ham handed, as he dropped hammer sized clues on the reader is if he were being subtle. Everyone in the book except for the main character are moved about like foils for his mystery and are cardboard cutouts otherwise. It felt almost insulting. Yes Cory, your readers are smart! Don't worry, you aren't loosing us. You don't have to have your characters wave huge red flags saying, "I did it! I did it!"

      In the end I enjoyed the experience of reading it, but along the way several times I almost abandoned it as he focused on developing the mystery instead of his big ideas. I hope in the future Mr Doctorow sticks to what he does well... if so I will happily pick up his next book.

    3. Re:Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by Sebastopol · · Score: 1

      1st, Voivod was an awesome band.

      2nd, Interesting observations. I must be stoopid b/c I didn't quite see where the ending was going. ;-) To me, it felt like he was deliberately pulling the plot to the foreground, as opposed to pushing the technology in the background, as an attempt to make it feel much more "natural". That's what did it for me, the seamlessness of it. I also think Cory used a few less dorky terms than Stephenson, and defintely less insipid futuristic slang than Gibson.

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      https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
    4. Re:Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by alkali · · Score: 1
      Agreed. It was an entertaining read but the plot twist is visible from space.

      (Here's a hint for budding authors: when writing a murder mystery, try using multiple suspects to add suspense. Your audience might not be shocked to learn that the murderer is the only nontrivial character besides the detective.)

    5. Re:Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom by hurtstotouchfire · · Score: 1
      I wouldn't put it up there with neuromancer or snow crash (which I agree is scores above Stephenson's latest) but it was indeed good.

      The opinions of geek readers on this one seem to vary a lot though. I know he's ridiculously popular around here (Bay Area, CA) because he comes here and he reads and signs in tiny sci-fi bookstores and he rants about open source and he basically comes across as one of us. I'm sure the Canada geeks have a similar devotion to his work.

      I mean how many authors will sign the electronic copy of their book on your palm and not wince a little bit at your painful, blatant geekhood?

      The author aside, I did think Down and Out was a good book in general. More brain candy than Neuromancer, although I do think Snow crash was kind of brain candy-ish. It's definitly an interesting society, while not an entirely new concept. I suspect that I enjoyed it primarily because of my own personal desire to have my brain jacked into a computer network, and to experience various other interesting toys.

      There was one classic and promising scifi ethical question that he approached and never really played out. When they're killed, characters in the book get new bodies grown for them, and their memory is uploaded to the new bodies. He does play with the idea of purposefully wiping one's own memory using this trick and with some medical dificulties involved, but he doesn't really get into the meat of it. I think it could have tied in nicely with the main character's personal crisis issues, but ah well.

      Like I said, great brain candy. Just edgy and intellectually teasing to keep you engaged, but I certainly wouldn't claim it was profound.

  81. my reading list by thedude13 · · Score: 1

    i really liked darwin's radio ( a fewyears old, but i just go to it). it had a good plot and it kept me interested from the first chapter to the end. i also thought the take on evolution was rather interesting.
    i also liked art of deception by mitnick on the non-fiction front. informative and it reinforces the belief that no matter how strong your passwords are if the people that have them can be convinced to give them out.
    worst book i read was distress by greg egan. it wasn't a terible book, but it was the worst one that i actually read. while the plot was interesting, near the end it just seemed (imho) to end up being egan's rant on human sexuality and emotions.

  82. a fashion geek by freejamesbrown · · Score: 1

    probably would totally spazz out over fabrics and probably can sew, quilt, cross-stitch, make their own yarn outta goat's hair, develop patterns, etc.

    programming competitions = quilting bees.
    m.

    ps on the subject, "google hacks" by Tara Calishain is worth it's $15 price tag. "Quimby the Mouse (ACME Novelty Library)" by chris ware owns... great to have that all collected in one piece.

    1. Re:a fashion geek by Urox · · Score: 1

      Fashion geeks are different from sewing geeks and both are different from quilting geeks.

      Fashion geeks understand what period clothings were introduced and what an A-line skirt will do to the figure. Combine TLC's What Not To Wear with a vintage clothing hunter (who, in my experience, can tell you the year a clothing is by cut, fabric, and embelishments). Elle Woods was a fashion geek in Legally Blonde (and she could tell you what fabric a particular dress was and that it was in last year's fashion magazine, not this year's as the saleswoman tried to sell her).

      Sewing geeks are all about the creation: cutting whether on the bias or other, the way fabric hangs, authenticity, and more. Obviously I'm not a sewing geek, but I have friends who are :)

      Quilting geeks.. well, that's the equivalent of putting back documents that were shred in a paper shredder (IMO).

      --
      "Would you rather have a playstation addicted dork wearing a star wars t-shirt?"
  83. The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime by Voivod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime by Mark Haddon. This book blew my mind. It's the story of a kid with Asperger's Syndrome written from his perspective. You get so lost in his head, the amazing complexity of his world and the techniques he's developed to cope with the people and situations around him, and then you are with him as he is forced out into the raw real world. Perdito Street Station by China Mieville was a strong runner up for me. I think both books are particularly well suited for geeks.

    Worst book? I'm past the point where I waste my time with books that suck. I used to push through just to finish the book but now that I'm realizing that life is short I just close the book and move on.

  84. Historical Fiction: Card vs Stephenson by unfortunateson · · Score: 1

    I personally liked Quicksilver. Not as much as some of his others, but quite enjoyable, and darnit, I actually learned some history (if only Mrs. Hahn from 9th grade was only as dull as the expositional parts of this book!).

    On the other hand, I was rather disappointed by Orson Scott Card's "Crystal City." First off, on a sheer size scale, I felt I got ripped off: 1/3 the number of pages, and text nearly twice the size means I'm getting a lot less book than Quicksilver, at only $2 less MSRP (good thing I get wholesale prices). Card has definitely aimed at a lower reading level too: Quicksilver could be a challenge to get through in parts, and when following it with Crystal City, I felt like it was Dick and Jane by comparison.

    It's got a couple of somewhat disconnected tales of Alvin and the other folks learning to be makers, and it's entertaining for the most part, but it doesn't end, and it's straining the believability limits for me for a historical fantasy. "Red Prophet" is still one of the finest fantasies I've ever read, but at volume 6, I still don't think he's got his end in sight. We're probably looking at 3 or 4 more volumes before a solid conclusion.

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    Design for Use, not Construction!
  85. also... by freejamesbrown · · Score: 1

    "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" by Cory Doctorow is a nice, short read. concept rich.

    m.

  86. Literature Geek and Neal Stephenson?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm most definitely not a literature geek.. ..but if I was, I wouldn't be parading around the fact that I had read Neal Stephenson. His writing is absolutely awful on many levels, and cannot conceivably be counted in the literary works that a "literature geek" would read.

    At least suggest something a bit unusual; for instance, when was the last time anyone mentioned Dante's _The Divine Comedy_? I've purchased the books with the companion commentary by Dorothy L. Sayers. The Comedy itself is well written, the commentary is excellent, and it makes for enjoyable reading even for a non-"literature geek" such as myself.

  87. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No.

    Choice quotes from The New Republic's review of Quicksilver:

    We also meet the heroine, Eliza, a "beautiful, saucy young blonde," who lets us know at several points that although she escaped from a Turkish harem with her virginity intact, she is nevertheless quite skilled at "using all the most ancient and sophisticated practices of the Oriental world to slowly drive [her partner] into frenzied, sweaty, screaming transports," because she did her "practicing on women." This is the sort of character that makes one suspect that the greatest influences upon Stephenson's work have been comic books and cartoons.
    ...and...
    Not even when the characters in Quicksilver are by themselves is Stephenson able to provide them with anything resembling inwardness. At one point in the novel, a man is forced to travel by horseback alone. He begins to speak, but what he offers is not a glimpse into his consciousness. Instead he delivers a lecture to his horse: "'All right, then: all of this land--' (stomping the dune for emphasis) 'was part of Spain--you heard me--Spain! Then these fucking Dutchmen turned Calvinist and revolted, and drove the Spanish away, down south of the Maas and a bunch of other rivers with hard-to-remember names--past Zeeland, anyway--we'll be seeing more than we want to of those rivers soon. Leaving only a wedge of Papist Spain trapped between the Dutch Republic on its north, and France on its south. This Spain-wedge contains Brussels and Antwerp and a large number of battlefields, basically ...'" and so on, until the journey's end. The coarseness does not make the speech any truer: the man is still giving his horse a geography lesson. He does so because, like all the characters in this book, he has nothing significant to say. And the poor reader is abandoned to an intense sensation of solidarity with a bored horse.
    ...and finally, my favorite...
    When Stephenson tries to add romance to the mix, he is unable to lose his idiot-savant tone, and what results are the most embarrassing sections of the novel. "Monmouth got himself worked round to a less outlandish position, viz. sitting up and gazing soulfully into Eliza's nipples." Into the nipples?
    link (reg required, unfortunately)
  88. right here... by garcia · · Score: 2, Informative

    Oh my personal pet peeve are authors that like to hear themselves talk. There is nothing like reading a book about a professor's life that is compared with the Cold War.

    I read My Cold War ahead of time. It was not only unbearably boring I actually felt sorry for the students that this professor lectures to. I am sure he makes them read this novel for a better understanding of him as a person and why he grades them poorly when they tell him that his book sucks.

    The rest of his books (listed here on his website) are mostly about music. I am quite confused why he just didn't stick to that genre. He seemed to be putting out quite a few, someone must have been buying them.

    He actually mentions in this book that the reason he wrote it was because he couldn't find it in his heart to continue the research/writing for the actual book he was writing and he needed to "find himself" with this one. Great, nothing like reading the book that an author used to fill time in his life.

    Two things to be learned from this rant: a) don't take classes with professors that require readings from their own books and b) only you and your family give a flying rat's ass about your life (unless you are famous), don't write about it even if you somehow think you can link it to your line of research.

    Just my worthless .02,

    1. Re:right here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well...if he's written a bunch of other books, he kind of is famous...and he is a professor which means that he's got a lot of people who know and respect? him. I think that kind of defines famous.

      I don't tend to pay much attention to the lives of other people and never/rarely? read books about them or watch E!. But some people do and I have to respect that. Why? Because everyone is different and learns in different ways.

      I took a history course where the book was written by the "Visiting Expert" Professor who wrote the main book of those that were assigned. It was a truly amazing experience and I'd recommend it to anyone who had the opportunity to do the same.

    2. Re:right here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I took plenty of history courses. None of the material was all that exciting. Neverming the professors that touted themselves as something special by requiring their literature as mandatory.

  89. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by nebaz · · Score: 3, Informative

    You get to the last book of a dekalogy only to realize that the author sucks.

    Fair enough. :-) In fact quite true. It's just that I thought the first few books were really good, and like a good junkie "first hit is free", felt that I had invested too much time to just give up, and hope that there may be some salvagable stuff. And to be fair, there are a few good moments in the later books. Last chapter in book 9 in particular. Dumai Wells, as someone else suggested, is another good point. It just seems as though Jordan thought "there are about 200 Aes Sedai in the tower, and I will not stop writing until I name them all." There are some web references (google Encyclopedia WOT) that name all the characters, and there are like 1500 NAMED characters in the book. It's hard to keep track.

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  90. The Federalist Papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the owners manual to the United States Constitution.

    1. Re:The Federalist Papers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Recommended reading, IMO.

      Too bad that most folks won't get around to it *or* the Constitution.

      On the lighter side of 18th century American writing, Poor Richard's Almanacks are available on the interweb, too.

      http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/loa/bf co nt.htm
      (for those who find mere link-clicking to be pedestrian)

  91. Patrick O'Brian - Historical Fiction by cthrall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Awesome series of books about the Royal Navy during the 1800's. Highly recommended.

    1. Re:Patrick O'Brian - Historical Fiction by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      The movie "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" was based on two or more of these.

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    2. Re:Patrick O'Brian - Historical Fiction by HardCase · · Score: 1
      It was based on "Master and Commander" and "The Far Side of the World" (the first and, I think, 16th books), hence the title. I've got all 20 of them. And, as good as the movie was, the books are phenomenal examples of historical fiction done right. I'm not sure if they qualify as best of 2003, though, since they go back almost 30 years.


      -h-

    3. Re:Patrick O'Brian - Historical Fiction by crystall · · Score: 1

      If you enjoy the O'Brien series, also try the Alan Lewrie series by Dewey Lambdin.

      It lacks the scientific Maturin angle and is more historically detailed. The hero is a very human and lusty character.

    4. Re:Patrick O'Brian - Historical Fiction by wwi · · Score: 1

      Sadly no longer with us. These are wonderful books. They appeal at one level with my geeky outlook, giving vast detail on how to sail a square-rigged ship.

      In addition, interesting characters, intrigue (much like John LeCarre novels), an excellent portrait of the world in 1800, as seen from the deck of a ship.

      Another candidate for re-reading, these books stand up to regular repeats, and reward the reader again and again.

  92. Eddings: The best I read in 2003 by SoTuA · · Score: 1
    It is far from being published in 2003 (first edition in 1982) but the best books I've read this year are David Eddings' "Belgariad" and "Malloreon" series.

    Good story, good characters. Nice fantasy setting. Succeeds in not being a LOTR clone. And Eddings keeps it fast. No dragging of feet like Stephen King or Tolkien, both of wich seem to subscribe to the motto of "Why use a paragraph where a page will do?".

    1. Re:Eddings: The best I read in 2003 by nathankerr · · Score: 1

      These two series really got me hooked on Fantasy when I was a kid. But then the glaringly bad writing turned me off of Eddings. The most obvious part that springs to mind is in the last book in the Belgariad series (Enchanter's End Game, I believe). The bad guy is done away with in a way that doesn't make sense, at all!, within the context of the story. For them to say that the guy couldn't get out of the stone because the good wizard (what's his name, again?) did already was pure non-sequitur. But, they did get me started in the wonderful world of fantasy and science fiction.

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    2. Re:Eddings: The best I read in 2003 by SoTuA · · Score: 1
      For them to say that the guy couldn't get out of the stone because the good wizard (what's his name, again?) did already was pure non-sequitur.

      Yeah, the quality does decrease as the series go on... still the best read of this year. Entertaining, good characters, a bit of humor. Seems like the spiral continued, and the next books ("Belgarath the Sorcerer" and "Polgara the Sorceress") are nothing but hack attempts at milking the cow. Other Eddings' work (the tamuli series) has problems with consistency and characters that act the same, although the story zips right along, and it manages to entertain.

      IMHO, the crown of Sci-Fi/Fantasy is the Dune Series. Absolutely incredible, until the ending of the sixth book that leaves you saying "WHAT DA F@#@$%@$%?!?!?". Seems like Frank Herbert died then and his son stepped in to finish. His further work (Brian Herbert's) is pitifuly under the quality of the original series.

  93. I didn't balance the list, here you go ... by Augusto · · Score: 1

    I have 4 liberals and 3 conservatives, before I get flammed for not being fair, let me add another dumb political pundit conservative book :


    Michael Savage : The Savage Nation: Saving America from the Liberal Assault on Our Borders, Language and Culture

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  94. Re:The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttim by redfood · · Score: 2

    I 2nd "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime."

  95. Naked Empire -Terry Goodkind by haplo21112 · · Score: 1

    Of the Books I have read this year this was my hands down favorite.

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  96. I wasn't impressed. by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

    Frankly, I wasn't impressed by Quicksilver. Of course it didn't have an ending, typical of a Stephenson book. Then again, it's only book one of a trilogy, so nobody expected one.
    -russ

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  97. Best and Worst my picks by Leareth · · Score: 1

    Best:
    Golden Age, Phoenix Exultant, and
    The Golden Transcendence
    by John C. Wright.
    Mind you, I also want to beat him for the wealth of interesting ideas he throws at you, each one of which could be a book in it's own right. On the surface it's space ioera, but there is more there...

    meh:
    DaVinci Code et al... by Dan Brown. Not great, but passable. Cotton Candy for the brain. Reminded me a lot of Clive Cussler.

    Worst:
    Anything by Michael Chrichton. As someone clever once said (not me) just because he made another book does not mean they have to make it into a movie.

    The Machine Crusade by Brian Herbert
    I'm just going to pretend this and the rest of the poorly written spawn of Frank's legacy don't exist. And don't think I didn't try to love them, I did.

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    *A)bort, R)etry, I)nfluence with large hammer.*
  98. Worst: "Light" by M. John Harrison by sampson7 · · Score: 1

    During Neil Gaiman's /. interview, he recommended very highly a book by M. John Harrison called "Light".

    Wow -- amazing book. Fabulous ideas -- true science fiction that breaks through our conventional understandings of science without losing all credibility.

    But Harrison killed it. It makes my worst list because of what it could have been. Instead of a rebirth of the sci-fi genre, it's a book full of gratuitous vulgarity. I'm not going to be shocked by a few bad words, but I am turned off by their mindless and endless repetition. Sure, sex can be a nasty business. And death is rarely pretty. And he did have an interesting take on the ugly sides of cloning and nanotechnology. But after a while, it gets tired to read scene after scene of sordidness. In detail. He captured the mood well, but then exploited the mood by describing each little bit of nastiness. Why did he feel the need to pad his story this way? I don't know. But it seems to be a common fallacy among "serious" young writers that they have to go out of their way to be crude and revolting or critics won't take them seriously.

    Okay, so who's word are you going to take on this one? Neil Gaiman who praised the book highly? Or the word of a two-bit hack. Seriously, the book is worthy of being read for its ideas, but as a work of literature it stinks.

  99. No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    It took me a long time to truly understand the Lord of the Rings; here's a FAQ for those who are new to the story.

    Q: Is LoTR really based on Christian Mythology?

    A: Yes. Tolkien wanted to demonstrate that even the mentally and physically challenged were capable of success and that therefore we should love everyone, regardless of their defects.

    Q: So who represents the mentally and physically challenged?

    A: Well obviously the hobbits are the physically challenged ones here, but the central mentally challenged figure is Gandalf, responsible for the most horrible attack plan in literature.

    Q: What's so horrible about a poorly armed team of two hobbits infiltrating Mordor?

    A: Well, basically it ignores the fundamental strengths of the forces of light. Anyone who's played C&C or Warcraft knows that if you have an advantage in air units, you have to use it. Remember that elves can ride eagles, and that elven archers are incredibly potent - early on, Gimli dismounts a Nazgul with a single shot! With about a thousand eagles (given elven archers on each one), the forces of good would have matched up pretty well in the air against Mordor's air units: all nine of them. While the leader of the Nazgul cannot be killed by any living man, this does not prevent a team of twenty eagles from tearing him to little shreds, especially if Gandalf rode along for help. So basically an air battle would have been brief unmitigated slaughter of the Nazgul as about a thousand eagle-mounted elves blew them out of the sky in a hail of arrows.

    Q: But I thought that there was some other book that said that the eagles wouldn't help?

    A: We're not talking about some other stupid book here, we're talking about the Lord of the Rings. And in this book, the eagles most definitely help out, first by flying Gandalf off the tower and secondly by pitching into the Final Battle in full force, attacking ground units (stupid!) at great risk to themselves. So obviously they would have been content to take part in a brief airborne slaughter of the Nazgul.

    Q: Ok so you defeat all Mordor's air units... then what?

    A: Well with air superiority, you command the skies. Which means that you can fly right over Mount Doom and drop anything you want right in there... like a ring. Mordor only had nine airborne units, and with them out of the way Mordor has absolutely no way to prevent anyone from flying anywhere.

    Q: But the ring would corrupt the eagles trying to drop the ring in, silly.

    A: Actually, the ring can only corrupt those who touch it or those in the nearby area. This is a trivial mechanism to defeat. The first step is permanently bind the ring to a weak and helpless creature, like a rat. Second step is of course to put the rat on a long rope, so that the creature holding the rope is out of the sway of the ring. Then the eagle carrying the rope, having total air superiority, flies over Mount Doom and drops the rat in the volcano. An utterly trivial victory.

    Q: Ok, so why the elaborately stupid attack plan? Why send the physical rejects as the only hope of mankind?

    A: The lesson is that, though they succeed at great cost and great risk, they are still capable of success. This, of course, was the lesson of the Holocaust - that we should never feel so superior to the weak or inferior that we decide they have no place. Even idiot tacticians like Gandalf and weak, pathetic creatures like Hobbits can add some value here & there.

    Q: Wait a minute. I just saw the movie, and there's this scene where they're like "this is the last stand of the Men of the West", and all the men of the west are white, and they face of in total war against Indians on Elephants and "black orcs" (er... maybe we just call them "blacks" for short) and the white Men of the West achieve a total genocidal victory. Doesn't that invalidate what you just said?

    A: Well, um, no. That's all fine & good, but remember that in the Holocaust we were committing g

    1. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Great: A post that mocks Christians is modded up as "Funny" but a post that mocks Jews is modded down as "Flamebait." I think we can see the true nature of /..

    2. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by hao2lian · · Score: 0, Troll

      We all know LOTR is a large sexual and Hitler reference.

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    3. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by index72 · · Score: 1

      Truely you have a dizzying intellect.

    4. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Informative
      "Remember that elves can ride eagles, and that elven archers are incredibly potent - early on, Gimli dismounts a Nazgul with a single shot! "

      Because we all know dwarves are great at archery.

      P.S.
      I think you meant Legolas, Gimli is the dwarf.

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    5. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Because we all know dwarves are great at archery.

      Exactly. Thus we have the immortal line: "Toss me!"

    6. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Gnuontz · · Score: 1

      i think that before you go applying such basic interpretations to a book written by an exceptionally well educated man, you might want to read his other works also, in the silmarillion a great deal of more complicated background is given, the reading of which might give you more insight into the numerous points Tolkein was attempting to address in an alegorical manner. also please do not discount his choice to present the story in a format defined and stylized before most of us were born. The work of LoTR as you have called it is art rather than an attempt at military genious.

    7. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tolkein hated allegories, and the format of his story was based on no known structure but simply grew with the story. Have you even read the Silmarillion, or did you just pull all that speil out of your ass?

    8. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man did you miss the whole point. The whole thing is an analogy of the stupidity of war. Like making poor strategic choices, using the least powerful to bear the greatest burden, using powerfull tools in bad ways, winning the war based on luck as much as skill, whatever. You see these same things even in modern day warfare.

    9. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 1

      To quote Tolkien, "I despise allegory in all its forms". In which case, it's surprising he was such good mates with C.S. Lewis.

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    10. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Gnuontz · · Score: 1

      sarcasm and wit, that c.s.lewis and tolkein were lifetime friends should come as no surprise, intelligent people often like other intelligent people to converse with :)

    11. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by alienmole · · Score: 1
      i think that before you go applying such basic interpretations to a book written by an exceptionally well educated man, you might want to read his other works also, in the silmarillion
      ...
      sarcasm and wit, that c.s.lewis and tolkein were lifetime friends should come as no surprise

      Speaking of appreciating sarcasm and wit, did you happen to notice that the post you originally responded to was an example of that?

    12. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by amberwyrm · · Score: 1

      First off Gandalf's plan was to have the nine companions venture into mordor. Also your nifty plan is even less likely to work than Gandalf's plan. There are many problems. What if the rat misses? What if it wisely decides not to crawl into the hot lava? What if possibly an aerial attack would catch Saurons eye? That is what gandalf was trying to avoid. Then as your eagles are flying over Mt. Doom Sauron will steal back what is his and there goes the whole quest. On the whole your analysis was ok but your plan didn't take into account all of the things gandalf's did.

    13. Re:No kidding; GREAT BOOK! by Platupous · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else here see that this comment may be meant as a sarcastic commentary against the current Bush administration in the United States?

  100. Best book by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1

    This may have qualified for the previous year's award, however since I'm not really impressed with the comments here, Yann Martel's Life of Pi is one of the best books I've read in a while. I recommend it to all.

  101. Race by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

    The really effective way to do it (used by a number of SF writers, including Heinlein in "Starship Troopers") is to leave race entirely ambiguous until the end. In other words, get people to for a complete opinion of the character and then let them in on the race.

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    1. Re:Race by ashkar · · Score: 1

      As long as it's not blatant "how do you like that" racism, a subtle insertion of race towards the end of a story does do a lot for prompting thought without making the story about race. Too often author's attempts to bring equality to a story fail through horrible attempts to make people acknowledge that the author likes [insert race here] just as much as the next politically correct person. These clumsy attempts at pushing an agenda in a novel more often than not fail and leave a bad taste in the reader's mouth.

      Unless the race of the charachter plays a needed role in the story, race should be left to the reader's imagination most of the time.

    2. Re:Race by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

      That's why I mentioned "Starship Troopers". It was introduced so subtly that many readers miss it. (Obviously including the people who did the movie.)

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    3. Re:Race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to repeat the parent poster! I hope you don't get modded up for that.

  102. Mod Parent UP by starcraftsicko · · Score: 1

    Above is right on. R.J. is milking the series for all he cn get. If there was ever a gameplan or logical ending, he has long since thrown it out. As long as we keep buying it, the soap-opera will continue.

    The question is not "Will this end in my lifetime?" but rather "Will he finish it in his?"

  103. DaVinci Code by ucblockhead · · Score: 1

    What, for "Most overhyped halfway decent suspence novel"?

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  104. There were facts in the book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aside from the settings, the history in the book is a rehash of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" which, aside from being poorly researched, was based on the rantings of a loon who was forced by the courts to admit he made the whole thing up.

    And the villian at the end?!?! There were too many inconsistencies in resolving it.

  105. Life of Pi by Yann Martel by phildog · · Score: 1

    Fiction: Life of Pi by Yann Martel was without a doubt the best book I read this year.

    Nonfiction: Confessions of a Tax Collector : One Man's Tour of Duty Inside the IRS
    by Richard Yancey. Okay, I'm cheating here because I think this won't be released until '04--but my friend snuck me a publisher's advance copy and it blew my doors off.

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  106. Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you can get past the bleeding heart psychobabble, the underlying principles are actually really good. For example, try to schedule your priorities/to do's etc... week by week rather then day by day. The worse thing you can do is live by a daily to-do list. (there is more to it, but you have to read the book.)

  107. Say again? by GeekDork · · Score: 0

    You mean there's a book?!? Is it any good? I mean does it have all the cool fight scenes from the movie?

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    1. Re:Say again? by chadm1967 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Okay, enough with trying to be funny.....this is really getting old.

      The books have been out for a very, very long time. Now, with that said, stop trying to be funny. You're making yourselves out to be idiots!

    2. Re:Say again? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      I view it more as bitter sarcasm than an attempt at humor.

      A lot of people (myself included) are somewhat depressed at the hordes of children and even adults who seem to believe that Peter Jackson pulled the story out of his ass, fully formed. "Wow, this is one of the most complex movie plots I've ever seen! I hope this guy writes more movies!" (<-- moronic comment actually heard upon departing the movie theater)

      Or the shops at the mall where you can buy a plastic "Aragorn's Sword." For fuck's sake.

    3. Re:Say again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't be so bitter. The fact of the matter is, that those children and adults would not have been able to enjoy Lord of the Rings were it not for Peter Jackson's movies. Sure, he didn't write the story, but he brought it to a whole new audience who wouldn't have enjoyed it otherwise (unlike many of us geeks, most people don't like to read). And the comment about "Aragorn's Sword", most people don't care about the details of Anduril and it's history. Get over it, fanboy.

    4. Re:Say again? by secolactico · · Score: 1

      The moronic comments cannot be helped, unfortunately. As long as there are morons who think the world didn't exist before their birth, you'll run across that kind of comments.

      As for the plastic "Aragorn's Sword", I don't see anything wrong there. It's not like they are desecrating a sacred symbol. Did you really expect Peter Jackson to get the greenlight for such expensive project without the merchandizing deals already in place?

      They are simply trying to squeeze as much money as possible from the franchise. Nothing wrong with that, just like there's nothing wrong with "Harry Potter vibrating broomstick" nor the Star War action figures you see everywhere.

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    5. Re:Say again? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      My irritation stems not from some sick devotion to a fictional story, but the fact that the author has been so poorly credited. Has PJ really "brought the story" to people? Half the people I've spoken to don't know who the hell Tolkien is. Sounds like PJ "brought" himself a few million bucks.

      As for the story of Anduril, I don't even remember it. I'm not the fanboy you are picturing, it simply ticks me off to see an author of what I view as a historic work of literature get sidelined like this.

    6. Re:Say again? by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 3, Insightful
      What a sad outlook on life you have. So drops down a few dollars, takes in a movie, enjoys it, and has never been exposed to any of the work of Tolkien. Big deal. Do you expect people to research where each and every movie they watch came from?

      Oh my god, there are kids who have watched the movie and don't know about the books! Oh no! That's so awful! Maybe you should assault them - that would teach them, right? It's disgusting that you're taking this elitist view. If you pass some kids who don't know about the books or who haven't been following the development of the movie and who wrote the screenplay and whatnot, why not just give them a friendly tap on the shoulder and tell them? Why be an arrogant asshole about it?

      Arrogance like yours astounds me. The books are good but they're not some sort of holy tome that a person must have read in order to be considered even somewhat a functioning member of society. Remember there are probably plenty of classic pieces of literature that you've never read and are not familiar with. If someone made a movie based on one of these works, would you want some guy directing bitterness at you rather than just saying simple like, "If you liked that, you should check out the movie."

      Grow up for fuck's sake. And yes, they sell plastic swords. Kids like plastic swords. I'm sorry if that's horrifying to you but you should probably based your religion on a piece of work that hasn't become so embedded in pop culture.

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    7. Re:Say again? by pclminion · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Wow, way to create a (completely wrong) mental image of me and then judge me by it. You think I would "assault" someone over this? What did I say that pissed you off bad enough to spit that kind of bile at me?

      No, I don't stand outside the theater ranting at people. I rant on some website precisely because it's a fucking website, not reality -- do you think I really take things that seriously?

      I enjoyed the movies. I'm not trying to spoil anybody else's enjoyment of them. I just think that Tolkien has been inadequately credited. I would have very much enjoyed seeing a scrolling message at the beginning of the film, describing the origin of the story. Out of a three hour film they could have invested one single minute in that. For a total of nine hours of film and probably billions in revenue I feel that Tolkien deserved a bit more that a split-second flashing of his name on the screen.

    8. Re:Say again? by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      Ah, let's see...
      "(
      Why is that a moronic comment? If you are upset that Tolkien did not get enough credit [as you now claim], then why is it a moronic comment for someone to be ignorant of Tolkien's work?

      Come on, if you don't like the fact that people haven't been told about the books enough, why is it "MORONIC" for someone to be unaware of the books? Answer that please.

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    9. Re:Say again? by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 0, Troll
      whoops, "moronic comment actually heard upon departing the movie theater)" - there you go."

      i may preview next time.

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    10. Re:Say again? by darien · · Score: 1

      The fact of the matter is, that those children and adults would not have been able to enjoy Lord of the Rings were it not for Peter Jackson's movies.

      Why's that? Has reading been outlawed in your United States?

    11. Re:Say again? by pclminion · · Score: 1

      I never said the statement was logical. I was ranting. Try to get over it.

    12. Re:Say again? by pclminion · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I think you're taking this way too seriously. To give the benefit of the doubt I reread my old post and although it's a little testy I don't see how I personally insulted you in any way. On the other hand you called me elitist, "arrogant asshole," etc.

      Look, I don't walk around "in real life" calling people morons, okay? I'm sorry if you miscontrued my comment to be some kind of personal attack against you. There's a text box on the screen, I type a rant into it, it's a web site. I'm sure you've had your moments where you think everybody around you is an idiot, considering your "liberals need not reply" sig (which has mysteriously disappeared from this post).

      Also, does that "Foe" setting make you feel any better? Maybe I'll start using it.

    13. Re:Say again? by pclminion · · Score: 1
      Because I don't think the two are equivalent, as you apparently do. The new "digital world order" and all that. Believe it or not, some people actually do view and treat the Internet as social revolution.

      So yes, I'll behave on the Internet differently than I would in reality. Not drastically so, but it's much easier to post a rant on a medium where the reader can choose not to read at, as opposed to standing in a full room and screaming a diatribe at the top of one's lungs.

      Would you tell your boss/coworkers that your online persona is named "Acidic Diarrhea?"

      I'm really surprised I've continued responding to this...

    14. Re:Say again? by Gnuontz · · Score: 1

      i find it amazing that you two carried it this far, from a sadly amused reader. you two should take this act to jerry springer

    15. Re:Say again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Has PJ really "brought the story" to people? Half the people I've spoken to don't know who the hell Tolkien is."

      Tolkien != Story

      Story == Hobbitses and a Ring

      $ = Incentive, Justification, Enabler

      If they do not know hwo Tolkien is by now, odds are they enver would have read the books. Because of the movies, they now know the story. That's what it means to -bring- a story to people.

    16. Re:Say again? by bugbread · · Score: 1

      You'd call someone an arrogant asshole out of the blue if he complained about people not knowing about the LOTR books? You must be fun to work with.

  108. Neal Stephenson's modus operandi by funkapus · · Score: 1

    When I read Cryptonomicon, my experience went roughly like this:

    First 500 pages: loved it.
    500-800: grew increasingly annoyed as it became clear he had no idea where he was going with his story.
    800-900: gradually started enjoying the book again
    925: the book just sort of ended, sending me into an apopleptic fit.

    I'm reading Quicksilver now, and I'm having a largely similar experience, although I got annoyed earlier this time.

    I loved Snow Crash, and it ranks among my favorite books of all time, but it too is a deeply flawed book in some ways. Stephenson can be a brilliant writer at times, and he has tons of great ideas and an incredible eye for detail, but he just seems to lose control of his books. It seems like he sets out to write them with a few cool images or scenes or characters in his head, and he never bothers figuring out how to tie them together into a plot that makes sense. Then, round about page 900, it's as if his publisher's gotten tired of waiting for a completed manuscript and forces him to finish, so the story just sputters out.

    Consequently, you get these sprawling, wandering epics that eventually collapse under their own weight. Every once in a while you get a glimpse of the brilliant novel that might have been, but it's drowning under hundreds of pages of excess verbiage and gratuitous plot digressions.

    It's frustrating, because the man is clearly a incredible writer. If he could just find the discipline to prune away some of the excess stuff that doesn't serve the story, he'd be one of the best novelists of our time. Given that Quicksilver is the the first 900-page installment in a three-part cycle, however, I don't think we can count on that happening anytime soon.

    1. Re:Neal Stephenson's modus operandi by CaptainAvatar · · Score: 1

      That was exactly my experience of Cryptonomicon - almost page for page! At the ca. p.500 mark, it seemed to change into a different book. I don't know if that means he didn't know where he was going with his story, but it meant the book I had been reading felt like it was replaced by some other book that I wasn't really into. But it makes me less likely to invest the time and effort into reading the new trilogy ...

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  109. Shocking But True: The Gunslinger by haplo21112 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My wife started listening to King's Gunsliger Series in the car. Due to her talking about it I took the first four books(paper since I see audio books as something for after I have actaully read the books, for car drives and going to sleep), which us on Vaca as fluff reading(paperback = fluff reading, hardcover = Non-fluff due to weight of book). I had figured that a story bascially boiling down to a western wouldn't apeal to me (That and I have never read a king book before so I wasn't sure I'd like his style)...I was toally surprised, these are damn good books, and it actually makes me interested to read them (something few books do lately, perhaps I am tireing of Sci-Fi Fantasy)...I am in the middle of Wizard and Glass nw, and its shaping up to be as good as the rest, and I am hurriedly trying to get through it so I can red Wolves of Callah(sp?) the next book which my wife has promised (but is getting itchy) to not start on audiobook till I catchup.

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    1. Re:Shocking But True: The Gunslinger by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the fold. =P

    2. Re:Shocking But True: The Gunslinger by LazyBoy · · Score: 1

      They took so long to come out, I kept forgetting the details. By the time the 3rd came out I had to re-read the first 2 before I read it. Ditto for the 4th. I'll probably never bother for the 5th.

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  110. Bitter EJB by Hethcox · · Score: 1

    Bitter EJB by Brute Tate et al. IMHO fills an enormous gap in the J2EE world by daring to suggest that EJB might not be the best technology for all enterprise software projects everywhere.

    Its well written, broad (but not overly), and can be read non-sequentally. I wish more books took this approach.
    Amazon

  111. I like Michael Sim's book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  112. Probably I'm biased by Glenn+R-P · · Score: 2, Informative

    But I've got to vote for my mother's books. She discovered POD (Print On Demand) publishing this year and published 5 novels, three of them being a trilogy starting with "Stones for a Crumbling Wall".
    http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_de tail.asp ?isbn=0-595-26582-0

    Iuniverse is quite generous with their "browse before you buy" which allows you to read the entire book.

  113. Absolution Gap - A Reynolds by Richard_at_work · · Score: 1

    Absolution Gap 'completed' the loose Inhibitors trilogy started in Revelation Space and continued in Redemption Ark.

    Set in the future, several hundred years from now, humanity lives off world due to an iceage that has set in, and split up into several groups. Unknown to them, a force that lives between the stars has spotted them and begun its never ending task - that of supressing space faring species.

    The first two books were fantastic, they told the story really well, and built believable characters out of figures that you at first dispise in some cases. The storyline is disjointed in someplaces, with some scenes skipped altogether, but it is done in such a fantastic way that you hardly notice, with the jumps doing more to move the story along than to distract from it.

    Unfortunately, Absolution Gap, the final book in the series, fails to deliver. The entire book is building up to a conclusion that really never happens, and the entire arc is wrapped up after the end of the story, in an epilogue that makes you feel as tho you have been cheated. In all, the book feels like it was too long, and the author decided to jsut give up. The entire premise of the book, and one which you would buy the book on, is that there is a massive climax to the story arc that has taken two books to build up, but in reality you come away feeling cheated, because the climax never happens. None of the characters you care about are expanded, indeed several are killed off, and everything you think is going to make a difference jsut whithers away. The story just is not ended at all. Its like watching the first two films in the LotR trilogy, and then finding out they decided not to make the third, but to finish it off in a two page pamphlet included with the second film.

    I really liked A. Reynolds based on his past work, but this book really makes me want to give up reading him. He just did not deliver the goods, and if I could get a refund for my time taken reading this pile of crap, then I think I would. Sorry guys, definately my Worst Read of the year.

  114. Feast of Crows by dwillden · · Score: 1

    My vote for the worst book of the year would be the vaporware novel Feast of Crows by George R. R. Martin. This was scheduled for release last spring, then it was moved to september. Well We're still waiting. The series has been awsome to date but I tend to worry if he's gonna manage to finish the planned seven books in his life.

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    1. Re:Feast of Crows by vspazv · · Score: 1

      The problem was he got halfway through writing Dance with Dragons before he decided that he needed a book before it and started writing Feast for Crows. As of 10/23/03 he has finished 32 chapters in 738 manuscript pages (about 500 book pages).

  115. An Unquiet Mind by stonebeat.org · · Score: 1

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679 763309/103-9417197-6812639?v=glance by Dr. Kay Jamison Redfield. Dr. Redfield is a Professor at John Hopkins

    Some quotes from the book:
    - "We all move uneasily within our restraints."
    - "but of course they had no idea how I felt, although they were certain that they did."
    - "The morbidity of my mind was astonishing: Death and its kin were constant companions."
    -"Within psychiatric circles, if you kill yourself, you earn the right be considered a "successful" suicide.....
    - There is an assumption, in attaching Puritan concepts such as "successful" and "unsuccessful" to the awful, final act of suicide, that those who "fail" at killing themselves not only are weak, but incompetent, incapable even of getting their dying quite right.

  116. When it comes to Fantasy by Mr_Ust · · Score: 1

    The best relatively new author on the scene is George RR Martin. I'm eagerly awaiting the next volume of his series.

    The only downside of his books is that he tends to follow too many characters at once. For three books now, there is a thread about dragons, but none of the characters from that thread have interacted except in minor ways with anyone else.

    Other than that, the plots are amazing and everything holds together. The writing is top-notch and all the books were page-turners.

    http://www.georgerrmartin.com/

  117. My pics by cavemanf16 · · Score: 1

    So far I've *mostly* read two books that I thoroughly enjoy:

    1. Enemy at the Gates - Yes, the book that the movie was based upon. However the movie (I believe - haven't seen it yet) deals with a very small (but important) portion of the overall battle. Very gripping details of the mundane soldier's life in battle to the grandiose schemes of Hitler and Stalin. Very good.

    2. AI Application Programming - While this is meant to give any programmer the basics for how to program AI code that works in software, I find it to actually be a good overview w/ source code of the various AI research areas out there right now. Pick it up if you're ready for some thinking, but be forewarned, the author uses C only. Maybe not the best choice for AI programming in general, but it's still quite readable.

    One book I wouldn't recommend:

    The Purpose Driven Life - While I don't have any major theological issues with Mr. Warren's writing style, I found this to be a rather simplistic, and therefore dumb, book. You'll find much more depth and thought provoking reading going through the Old (or New Testament ;) ) of the Bible. (As mentioned by a previous poster. ;) ) Besides, 40 chapters of mindless drivel about all types of topics that the Bible is much more capable of handling on its own (because it does), and in more depth than Rick Warren does, seems like a waste of time to me. I skimmed this book and found that reading his little blurbs of 3 sentences each at the end of each chapter completely captured the drivel of each chapter in full. And if you happen to go to a Christian church and they happen to be using this book across all sectors of the church, make sure you know what this book is about before you decide to commit yourself to enduring it's lengthy drivel.

    1. Re:My pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While I agree that The Purpose-Driven Life had quite a bit of filler text. I don't know that I'd call it drivel. I used it as a devotional and found that it was a good starting point for meditation on the different topics.

  118. Do us all a favor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and close dodwn the Books section, no one cares about these shitty books that are posted about. Also, while your at it close down *BSD and Apple too, since no one wants dead filth or homosexuals. Thanks.

  119. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Grei · · Score: 1

    Considering the fact that there's such a delay between books, and the fact that some of the recent books appear to have been editted and re-editted and re-re-editted so that the storeline doesn't quite jell out, I'd have to say that the blame for the downhill turn has to rest on the publisher.

    The publisher sets the release date, they go through and make changes (pull this chapter here, put it there, etc.) and then of course the author gets blamed for it. Frankly, I sometimes wish the publishers would butt out and let the proven authors proceed at their own pace and publish stories as-is.

    But of course that'd make sense...but won't make people as much money, so we all know what really matters to publishers.

    Grei

  120. Best: Life of Pi by lurker412 · · Score: 1

    Yann Martell picked up a Booker Prize for this gem. Warning: Not geeky at all--Pi is the main character's name, not a mathematical constant. Just a great story about a guy trapped at sea in a lifeboat with a wounded zebra, a spotted hyena, a seasick orangutan, and a 450-pound Bengal tiger named Richard Parker.

    1. Re:Best: Life of Pi by wazzzup · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Wonderful book. How did you interperet the ending - the story he gave to the Japanese investigators or the one described through most of the book?

    2. Re:Best: Life of Pi by lurker412 · · Score: 1
      If I recall correctly, the final report of the Japanese ultimately accepted the tiger version. It certainly was the better story. I think the point was that given the choice, why not believe the better story?

      I just pulled out my copy of the book. Here is what I think is a key passage during the investigation. Pi: "Don't you bully me with your politeness! Love is hard to believe, ask any lover. Life is hard to believe, ask any scientist. God is hard to believe, ask any believer. What is your problem with hard to believe?"

      You may well have a different take on it, but that's what great writing is all about.

    3. Re:Best: Life of Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It certainly was an interesting book. A girl here at work recommended it during a discussion regarding God. Her words, and the marketing of the book stated "this book will make you believe in God".

      I don't.

      The ending was very M. Night Shamayalyandingdong, lead the viewer into thinking one way and then flip the story around.

      I'm usually not a fan of this style of writing, yet the body of the book was so well written, so textured that I was not annoyed. It was quite enjoyable, mentally scanning through the book through the eyes of retrospect.

      Just ignore the crap marketing about a faith changing experience.

    4. Re:Best: Life of Pi by shurikt · · Score: 1

      Agreed. An excellent book. I must say that I HATE the "reading group guide" at the end of the book. It's like having a smarmy, psuedo-intellectual, 9th grade English teacher waiting on your porch for you to get home so she can give you a pop quiz. That bitch.

    5. Re:Best: Life of Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was last year? :-)

    6. Re:Best: Life of Pi by lurker412 · · Score: 1
      LOL. Yeah, I had the same reaction. I didn't really get into reading fiction until after I got out of school and didn't have to worry about that crap. I guess that's why I read a lot but avoid book clubs.

      Another person pointed out some marketing blather about how the book will make you believe in God. Well, it didn't, but I am glad that I didn't let that nonsense stop me from reading it in the first place.

    7. Re:Best: Life of Pi by lurker412 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you are right, of course. I waited for the paperback. Still, since LOTR was originally published before most Slashdotters were even born (1954/55), maybe you could cut me some slack here.

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  122. Altered Carbon by lelitsch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan would make the top of my fiction list for 2003. Starts a bit slow, but I still read it in one night. The basic premise is that rich enough people can digitize their consciousness and travel, or be reincarnated, by just transferring the "stack" to a new human "sleeve". But the fun moments are really the details like self aware hotels, catholics as a small right-to-die sect, outdated robots running gun shops etc. A bit over the top in places, but it hangs together pretty well.

    1. Re:Altered Carbon by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      I actually got a publisher's preview edition of Altered Carbon, and I really liked it. The only thing I didn't really care for was the explicit sex scenes. They had the feel of a movie that adds a sex scene just to get a ratingof "R". However, there were a lot of things in it I liked. My favorite scene was when the main character checks into a hotel (The Hendrix). Doesn't sound exciting? Well, read it and find out for yourself!

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  123. Suggestions by digrieze · · Score: 1

    My suggestions (not in any order)

    Best:
    Religion/Philosophy
    "The Divine Conspiracy" by Dallas Willard, able to rile up the pharasees in any denomination (lots of fun to watch).
    "A Theology of the New Testament" by George Eldon Ladd, A well presented, simple, consistant theology that is equally hated by those on the ultra conservative and ultra liberal wings who san "yes the bible sys that but.."
    "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren. A Little simplistic, but makes good points.

    Political:
    "A National Party No More" - by Zell Miller. If the (national) Democrat Party would read this they might have a chance to regain their popularity.

    Fiction:
    "Eragon" - Just in time for the Tolkien revival.
    "The Time Travelors Wife" - Fun exploration of time travel paradoxes, light reading.

    Worst:
    Fiction:
    "The Davinci Code" - Just shows you can build bad fiction on long discredited forgeries.

    History:
    "Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas" - Unbelievable fiction when written becomes the topic of scholarly discussion. Now you know what will happen to all those bad star wars and star trek novels 1700 years from now.
    "The Gospel of Mary Magdelene" - As above.

    Political:
    "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" - A Comedian who made his reputation insulting everything pretends that spilling his bile on politics should be taken seriously.
    "Dude, Where's My Country" - A movie producer who writes scripts for scenes in documentaries and makes up things to put in them pretends he understood reality to begin with.

    Of course, this is all up to taste.

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  124. Books??? by jetkust · · Score: 1

    No way. If I ever read a book, it was by accident.

  125. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you totally wrong, in this book, time actually doesn't slow down, it simply reverses. theres about mabey 1/6 of the book that deals with events that happen after book 9 seems the other 5/6th is every one wondering whats rand is doing at the end of book 9.

    i really expected the series to pick back up after book 9, i mean (spoiler.............. rand cleanses saidin) you expect shit to explode after that , DO torturing forsaken for failure, large battles taking place, how about a huge ass party in the black tower? something come on

  126. Quicksilver atrocious, Diary the VERY WORST by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 1
    Chuck Palahniuk's DIARY is without a doubt the worst of 2003 as it had such very high expectations (well, Chuck's expectations are dropping rapidly).

    All I can say about Quicksilver is that it is tedious and unfocused. You could have easily pulled 200+ pages out of this and told a compelling story. Neal - hire an editor who isn't in awe of you.

    1. Re:Quicksilver atrocious, Diary the VERY WORST by PCM2 · · Score: 1
      Chuck Palahniuk's DIARY is without a doubt the worst of 2003 as it had such very high expectations (well, Chuck's expectations are dropping rapidly).
      I am always, always disappointed by Palahniuk's novels, though I find myself reading them because I like his style. What was so bad about this one? Say, as compared to Lullaby (which wasn't great)?
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    2. Re:Quicksilver atrocious, Diary the VERY WORST by monomakh · · Score: 1

      Diary is Pahlaniuk's worst novel yet because it feels, to me at least, that he is tired of his schtick. The plot is half-baked, the connective tissue is thin at best, and it's missing his usual massive psychosexual issues. At least unlike other writers who are trying to milk their cache of goodwill (*cough* Jordan *cough*), Pahlaniuk's novels are progressively shorter, which is a nice change of pace.

      In comparison to Lullaby, I think the central idea of Diary is not as strong/intriguing (culling poem v. a stepford town/(**spoiler, but if you really want to know, I'll tell)). The protagonist in Diary is female, which I think Pahlaniuk struggles with more so than when they are male. There is no action to speak of, and the premise of the book (told as if read from a coma diary) is abandoned/becomes unbelievable almost immediately. Like I said, I don't really think his heart was in it.

      That said, Diary is still in the top half of all the books I read last year (which was around 55), probably top third. I a big Pahlaniuk supporter (particularly the first three), so YMMV.

      I disagree with Diary being the worst, but I do absolutely agree with Quicksilver being atrocious (for me it wasn't the worst, but Quicksilver was certainly the most diappointing. Someone get Stephenson an editor with the Mighty Red Pen of Smiting!)

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  127. Jasper Fforde by HiKarma · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, it's really an older book series, but since the paperbacks only came out in the USA in 2003, I will put forward the most refreshing and amusing books I've seen in a while, The Eyre Affair and its sequel Lost in a Good Book by Jasper FForde.

    A marvelous alternative Britain where everybody is highly literate, and our heroine, Thursday Next, is a Special Operations officer in the LitraTec (Literary crimes) division.

    Alas, the latest one, The Well of Lost Plots, can't be recommended quite as highly, even though it centers on a concept near and dear to the /.ers heart (which I can't reveal as it is a spoiler.)

    1. Re:Jasper Fforde by Stephen · · Score: 1
      I highly recommend these books too, but I thought The Well of Lost Plots was better than Lost in a Good Book. There's not as much plot, but for me the political edge and introduction of real-world issues more than made up for that.

      Many characters from the "standard" English classics -- Shakespeare, Dickens, Bronte, Austen and the like -- appear in this series. So while a casual knowledge of this sort of literature is not essential for reading the series, it certainly increases the humour. Potential readers should be warned that The Eyre Affair contains Jane Eyre spoilers.

      For fans of the books, Jasper Fforde's website is very good. I think I read there that the fourth Thursday Next book is due out this summer and will tie up the loose ends.

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  128. Best Books I've read this year by Devil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an unabashed and yet notoriously picky (read: pain in the ass to buy for) sci-fi fan, here are a few of my favorite books of 2003.

    I just finished China Mieville's Perdido Street Station and I am flabbergasted. Mieville's city-state of New Crobuzon is utterly fantastic and his clarity of vision for his world, in my opinion, is the kind you only come across once in a great while. I will most certainly be picking up his newest novel, The Scar , as soon as I finish a couple of books curently in my queue.

    I was delighted that in the last year (or perhaps a little bit more), the great Samuel R. Delany's books have begun coming back into print. Three of his novels, Dhalgren , Nova and the duplex Babel-17/Empire Star , along with his short story collection Aye, and Gomorrah... and other stories are all truly wonderful sci-fi. If you decide to read him, start with Aye, and Gomorrah..., Babel-17/Empire Star and then Nova; when you think you have a handle on him, tackle Dhalgren. Tackling Dhalgren is no easy task, but the journey is completely worth it.

    Boing Boing editor Cory Doctorow now has two books in print ( Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom and A Place So Foregin and Eight Mor e) and a third on the way. Both books (a novel and a short story collection respectively) showcase a writer I am quite sure we'll be seeing a whole lot more of in the future. Doctorow's writing reads very much like the first writer of the next generation of sci-fi writers; you won't be disappointed.

    Cyberpunk poster boy William Gibson also had a new book this year, Pattern Recognition . As his writing pressed forward, Gibson has slipped further and further from futurity into today, creating science fiction that happens in today's world. His latest work is an interesting story of Cayce Pollard, a cool-hunter with a severe allergy to brands. The story is, as with all things Gibson, tightly written and as focused as a laser beam on its subject. A great read for all.

    I sure hope this helps. I know not all the books came out specifically in 2003, but I read them all in 2003 (along with countless others) and I think that's close enough for me to sneak them in.

  129. Non-stereotypical geek books by Triv · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Avoiding the sci-fi -tech journal swing of this thread, here's a list of extremely good stuff that practically no one's heard of:

    James Frey: A Million Little Pieces

    A memoir dealing with the author's time in rehab. Very, very raw. Extremely inventive writing style.

    Colin Dexter: Train

    Set in the 50's, Dexter weaves the lives of a cop, the wife of a murder victim, a black caddy and his friend in a decidedly creepy way. Bagger Vance this ain't.

    Paul Auster: Oracle Night

    When a book takes over your life. This modern-day fairy tale shows off auster's flair for the...well, the odd. Auster use footnotes to tell two stories at a time...it's kinda hard to describe, but it works.

    I'm sure there are more, but I've gotta head to work.

    Triv

  130. Quicksilver a total disaster by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Note to Neal Stephenson - if you are going to write a Proust-like "brick", you had better find a willing audience of dilletantes to get unemployed rapido to digest it.

    Quicksilver was a disaster of writing and editing.

    My other quip with Stephenson is how pseudo-intellectual the books are. Okay, the "CS for idiots" in Diamond Age was bearable, but all of this "degree in a can" low-brow history/science is tiresome for those of us who have it from original sources.

  131. Fortress of Solitude by tsmccaff · · Score: 1

    I tend to gravitate towards pretty "literary" works and not so much genre fiction, so its hard to come up with a book I think is great that will also appeal to the average slashdotter (not a knock, just a sociological observation). Anyway, Jonathan Lethem's The Fortress of Solitude is a great piece about growing up in Boerum Hill Brooklyn in the 70s. And it also has a lot of discussion about comics (much like Cavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon), which is where is enters the realm of topics covered on /.

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  132. Da Vinci code, TOTAL DRIVEL by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 3, Informative

    The fact that so many people lauded this airport-bookstore drivel tells me just how low-brow the reading audience has become. From the mindless cliff hangers (resolved in three pages for the idiots who can't track a plot) to the impossibly silly puzzles to the hocus-pocus Templar BS plot (which has been around for decades)...I kept looking for the "Nancy Drew" logo on the side of this "young readers" crap.

    1. Re:Da Vinci code, TOTAL DRIVEL by markfive · · Score: 1

      Wow, you're so smart.

    2. Re:Da Vinci code, TOTAL DRIVEL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's exactly what I said after reading Foucault's Pendulum.

    3. Re:Da Vinci code, TOTAL DRIVEL by garymcg · · Score: 1

      It's a great book, assuming you've never read a book before.

      You forgot to mention the horrid prose style and 1 dimensional characters.

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    4. Re:Da Vinci code, TOTAL DRIVEL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smarter than you if you're defending the DaVinci code.

  133. Alpha & Omega by Charles Seife by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1

    I actually understand dark energy now (or at least as far as a layperson can), and why recent news talked about the Universe being "open".

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  134. The Art of Deception... by psykocrime · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Art of Deception, by Kevin Mitnick.

    Ok, the copyright date on my copy says it was published in 2002 (must have came out **late** in 2002, or my memory is really going, as I could have sworn I haven't had this book a year...), but I didn't read it until this year... anyway, it's one of my favorites and definitely gets a vote for "Book of the Year."

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    1. Re:The Art of Deception... by wmspringer · · Score: 1

      Well, I can tell you I bought it at the very end of 2002...it was required reading for a computer security class last spring. I thought it was interesting but kind of repetitive; Mitnick's basically saying over and over: Don't Trust Anyone.

  135. Try John Grisham if you like DRIVEL by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Stop by the Walden Books in your local airport for some other great drivel to sit aside Da Vinci code on your shelf. You might like the Nancy Drew or Hardy Boys series as well - the mysteries are about as complex as the moronic tripe in the Da Vinci Code.

    1. Re:Try John Grisham if you like DRIVEL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't get out enough do you?

  136. Answer: The Bible by CmdrTostado · · Score: 1, Troll

    It tops the best seller lists every year
    Nothing beats it
    World sales of the Bible are more than 100 million every year.
    The Bible is the best-selling book every year. If sales of the Bible were included in best-seller lists, it would be a rare week when anything else would achieve a look in.

    above text from http://www.sm3a.org.uk/messengers/bible.html

    . It has been estimated that between 1815 and 1975 some 2.5 billion copies of the Bible were printed ... (Guinness Book of Records)

    1. Re:Answer: The Bible by GuntherAEPi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Fortunately there is no correlation between popularity and quality.

    2. Re:Answer: The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing that sells that book is fear. People buy those because they're afraid to go to Hell. Holy books are written by kings and other "royalty" who are trying to keep the masses in-line.

    3. Re:Answer: The Bible by cranos · · Score: 1

      Do you know the Truth?

      Which truth would that be? The Christian Truth? The Islamic Truth? or maybe the Judaic Truth.

      How about the animist Truth, or maybe even the Hindu(sp?) or Buhddist Truth.

      Just remember everything is True for a given value of Truth.

    4. Re:Answer: The Bible by RatBastard · · Score: 1
      And the only thing that book sells is truth.
      No, what sells that book is the promise of a reprive from the horror of death. How many people would be so gung-ho for it if it said "And You shall be rewarded with nothingness until the end of the universe!"?

      Do you know the Truth?
      Not all of it, to be sure. But then none of us do. We've barely scratched the surface on how the universe works.

      Or do you actually go outside at night see the stars and believe all that matter came from nothing?
      Nothing? Why not? Just because we don't know all of the mechanics that make the formation of the universe work, or even the fact that we might not like what what information do have tells us doesn't automatically mean that the scientific explination is wrong.

      Did your relatively simple computer and OS just happen, or did they have a designer?
      Oh, yes. The "if x then y" argument. Very clever.

      But the complex interaction between plants and animals, gravity and the solar system...... was it not desidned?
      No, it was not designed. The solar system works because of the gravitational pull of the mass of the sun. As to why the planets all seem to be in pretty stable orbits, that's easy: all of the unstable stuff fell into the sun or into the other planets already. There's even a little bit of that stuff floating around. Or don't rocks fall from the sky in your world.

      As for the relationship with plants and animals, why would a sane god make a plant that tricks an insect into mating with it in order to get it's flower polinated?

      Geeks have brains, don't they, where did you brain come from?
      Our ape ancestors. Why would a sane god create a baby with a brain so large that it puts the mother and child at risk of death at birth? And we're the only animal with this problem. Does that sound like a good design to you?

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    5. Re:Answer: The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      World sales of the Bible are more than 100 million every year.

      How many people are born each year? Doesn't everybody have a copy already? Or do religious people collect bibles a la conspiracy theory?

    6. Re:Answer: The Bible by Little+Brother · · Score: 1
      But what is truth?
      Is truth unchanging law?
      We both have truths.
      Are mine the same as yours?

      -From Jesus Christ Superstar.

      First of let me say that I beleive in and accept Christ. That being said, I beleive that people who think there is a logical basis for beleif in God to be either ignorant or fools. The preponderence of the evidence is against the existance of God. That is what faith is for. Faith is the acceptance of that which is beyond proof. If you think you have proof, not only are you mistaken, but also you don't have true faith.

      Furthermore I think that any mortal who thinks they understand the Truth of God. Who thinks they know what God wants, know God's reasons and know what is or isn't approved of by God are guilty of the sin of hubris. They presume way to much. I think somebody said something about "judge not" at one point, wonder who that cold have been?

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    7. Re:Answer: The Bible by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1

      I don't claim to know the Truth, and I submit that neither you nor the Bible have the Truth either. If you can show me any evidence to prove that the Bible is anything more than an oral history, passed down, retranslated, and expurgated for political purposes over the generations, or that there was any involvement from extrahuman sources whatsoever, I will be more than happy to reconsider this statement.

      I see the stars and yes, I wonder where everything came from. I wonder why it exists at all. I think, "Okay, some extraordinary force put it here - but where did *that* come from?" I'm right back to the beginning again - ex nihilo arguments are not very satisfying to think about. I prefer to be in awe of the fact that the universe exists and that it works as perfectly as it does at all.

      The "there must be an intelligent designer because this is all so complex" argument is really kind of silly. Complex things evolve from simple ones all the time. Take a bunch of matter, some fundamental forces, a set of physical laws, and define some basic constants. Compress matter tightly, explode it in all directions such that it forms into different elements, fairly evenly distributed. Subject it to lots of energy from different sources. Let it run for several billion years. Amino acids and simple proteins evolve, combine into bigger and more complex forms. Hey presto - we have life. After a couple billion more years, collapse it all down, start over again.

      Now, imagine you had to explain all this to a PHB in the front office. Wouldn't "And God created the heavens and earth and all the creatures that swim and creep and fly" be a pretty good executive summary for someone who has absolutely no comprehension of the principles involved?

      Disclaimer: I am by no means an astrophysicist, an evolutionary bioligist, or a Biblical scholar. Someone please tell me where this analysis goes wrong.

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      What if life is just a side effect of some other process and God has no idea we exist?

    8. Re:Answer: The Bible by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      Because we all know that all those truths are equally true, don't we? It's not like any of them are mutually exclusive. And I thought geeks were supposed to be logical.

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    9. Re:Answer: The Bible by LordLucless · · Score: 1
      Nothing? Why not? Just because we don't know all of the mechanics that make the formation of the universe work, or even the fact that we might not like what what information do have tells us doesn't automatically mean that the scientific explination is wrong.

      Acually, creationism (wether by the Judaeic God or not) is just as scientific as any other approach. Science relies on a system of cause and effect. For this reason, it's hard for it to deal with a "first cause", because that, by definition, cannot have a cause. Essentially, you have three options.
      1. The universe was created by an external force
      2. The universe was never created, it always was
      3. The universe was never created, none of this exists.

      Number 1 is the path taken by most religions. It usually comes down to arguing about the nature of the external force. Number 2 seems to be what most scientific-types want to believe. Nobody really roots for Number 3 much.

      Both the "religious" and "scientific" approaches are unproven. The main difference is the scientists feel the need to prove theirs, the religious people just believe it.
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    10. Re:Answer: The Bible by LordLucless · · Score: 1
      Sorry, last post was a premature submit.

      Oh, yes. The "if x then y" argument. Very clever.

      That argument is actually fairly well reasoned. With pretty much every other ordered system, people assume there was someone, somewhere, who gave it order. Give someone a manufactured item, and they will *always* assume someone made it, and it didn't just pop into being. If you see an ordered universe, it is natural, and logical, to assume there was an orderer.

      Nothing? Why not? Just because we don't know all of the mechanics that make the formation of the universe work, or even the fact that we might not like what what information do have tells us doesn't automatically mean that the scientific explination is wrong.

      Acually, creationism (wether by the Judaeic God or not) is just as scientific as any other approach. Science relies on a system of cause and effect. For this reason, it's hard for it to deal with a "first cause", because that, by definition, cannot have a cause. Essentially, you have three options.
      1. The universe was created by an external force
      2. The universe was never created, it always was
      3. The universe was never created, none of this exists.

      Number 1 is the path taken by most religions. It usually comes down to arguing about the nature of the external force. Number 2 seems to be what most scientific-types want to believe. Nobody really roots for Number 3 much.

      Both the "religious" and "scientific" approaches are unproven. The main difference is the scientists feel the need to prove theirs, the religious people just believe it.

      As for the relationship with plants and animals, why would a sane god make a plant that tricks an insect into mating with it in order to get it's flower polinated?

      If you look only a little deeper into Christian theology, you'll find your answer to these sorts of questions. The perfect creation was ruined by the introduction of sin. The original order of things was God rules Man rules Nature. But when man rebelled against God, it stuffed everything up, and nature is just as much ruined by sin as man is.
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    11. Re:Answer: The Bible by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      That being said, I beleive that people who think there is a logical basis for beleif in God to be either ignorant or fools. The preponderence of the evidence is against the existance of God. That is what faith is for. Faith is the acceptance of that which is beyond proof. If you think you have proof, not only are you mistaken, but also you don't have true faith.

      Poor Luke. Luke 1:1 (ESV) "it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concering the things you have been taught."

      Luke writes to offer evidence as to his beliefs. I find it foolish to believe that a God who cares for people would then set out to deliberately deceive them. God created an ordered, logical universe, where things follow consistent rules. Why would he act contrary to what he has created? I don't believe that we have irrefutable proof on the existance of God, but neither do I believe God has deliberately obfuscated his existance.

      Furthermore I think that any mortal who thinks they understand the Truth of God. Who thinks they know what God wants, know God's reasons and know what is or isn't approved of by God are guilty of the sin of hubris. They presume way to much. I think somebody said something about "judge not" at one point, wonder who that cold have been?

      What about God himself? If you take the Bible to be the word of God, then when the Bible says something about what God approves of, or disapproves of, you must acknowledge the truth of it. If someone disaproves of something because they say God disproves of it and back that up with reference to God's word, then I say they are justified in what they say. Of course, if you don't believe that the Bible is the word of God, it's pretty pointless me debating with you; we are of different religions.

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    12. Re:Answer: The Bible by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      don't claim to know the Truth, and I submit that neither you nor the Bible have the Truth either. If you can show me any evidence to prove that the Bible is anything more than an oral history, passed down, retranslated, and expurgated for political purposes over the generations, or that there was any involvement from extrahuman sources whatsoever, I will be more than happy to reconsider this statement.

      The Bible is not really retranslated. When people set out to translate something, they usually go back to the original source and translate that. The same holds true for the Bible. The NIV isn't someone going back and re-wording the archaic Old King James, it's someone translating from the same Aramaic and Greek sources as the older version used. You've also got to realise that the Bible was only compiled as a whole fairly recently. Parts of it were written at different times, and in different ways. It's fairly obvious that, for instance, most of the New Testament is not an oral history. Most of it was written by people who claimed to be eye-witnesses of the event (except for Luke, who researched things after the fact). The first five books of the Old Testament, too, are unlikely to be oral history. They were written by Moses, who was involved in a lot of what he wrote (The four books after Genesis; Genesis was explaining how the Israelites got were they were). As to the veracity of the Bible, there have been cases were truths denounced as fiction in the Bible have later been archeologically verified (scholars thought the Bible had stuffed up the chronology of Babylonian kings, until some documents were found that demonstrated that a particular king was referenced by two names, and that the Biblical account was more accurate than the modern one).

      Complex things evolve from simple ones all the time. Take a bunch of matter, some fundamental forces, a set of physical laws, and define some basic constants. Compress matter tightly, explode it in all directions such that it forms into different elements, fairly evenly distributed. Subject it to lots of energy from different sources.

      Precisely. But who who took the matter, who set the physical laws, who defined the constants? No matter how far back scientists delve, they never find a "first cause", because science, which deals in chains of cause and effect, is inequipped to deal with first causes. If the universe ever began, then it had to be begun by an external force. Hawking says this in A Brief History of Time. What he also says is that the alternative is that the universe never began, that it always was, and it is this alternative he prefers. Neither can be proven. Personally I prefer believing the former.

      I'm not an astrophysicist or an evolutionary biologist either, and am only an amateur Biblical scholar.

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    13. Re:Answer: The Bible by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1


      The Bible is not really retranslated. When people set out to translate something, they usually go back to the original source and translate that. The same holds true for the Bible. ... You've also got to realise that the Bible was only compiled as a whole fairly recently. Parts of it were written at different times, and in different ways. It's fairly obvious that, for instance, most of the New Testament is not an oral history. Most of it was written by people who claimed to be eye-witnesses of the event (except for Luke, who researched things after the fact). The first five books of the Old Testament, too, are unlikely to be oral history. They were written by Moses, who was involved in a lot of what he wrote ... As to the veracity of the Bible, there have been cases were truths denounced as fiction in the Bible have later been archeologically verified...


      Your point is well taken. "Nothing more than an oral history" was a little harsh and simplistic. I was trying to say that the Bible is not a scholarly work of non-fiction in the modern sense, but a document that was put together, as you say, over a number of years and from a number of sources. As such, it is subject to people's recollections, personal prejudices, and the political realities of the day. I realize that there is a lot of truth there, not to mention good common sense. I take issue, however, with those who claim that it represents Absolute Truth - especially the ones who claim that every worse is literally true.


      But who who took the matter, who set the physical laws, who defined the constants? No matter how far back scientists delve, they never find a "first cause", because science, which deals in chains of cause and effect, is inequipped to deal with first causes. If the universe ever began, then it had to be begun by an external force. Hawking says this in A Brief History of Time. What he also says is that the alternative is that the universe never began, that it always was, and it is this alternative he prefers. Neither can be proven. Personally I prefer believing the former.

      I agree completely. I've thought about this a lot, and I like to believe that there is a set of all-powerful intelligences who created existence as an experiment (being all-powerful and eternal, they wanted something to keep from being bored). Think of it as the "God's train set" theory. He/she/it/they created matter, set up the laws and constants, and watched it to see what would happen. Every now and then, they might move a switch or bump a train onto a siding, but essentially they watch. Hopefully, they want to see us lifeforms improve ourselves. Sometimes, they say "Okay, that was a good run; now let's tweak the gravitational constant a bit and see what that does."

      I have absolutely NO belief that this is, in fact, anything close to reality, but the alternative (We're all alone and stuff just exists) is awfully cold, and provides no incentive for us to act morally or to improve ourselves. After all, isn't that the reason for religion in the first place - to make us feel less alone and meaningless?

      I hope that, when I die, I'll find out how it all works. For now, I try not to think about it too much any more. Eventually, it makes my brain spin around in circles.

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      What if life is just a side effect of some other process and God has no idea we exist?

    14. Re:Answer: The Bible by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      As such, it is subject to people's recollections, personal prejudices, and the political realities of the day.

      It depends. Many Christians hold that the Bible is the inspired word of God, and that as such, God would maintain the integrity of his word despite the vagaries of the people actually writing it. But that is somewhat of a circular argument; you have to believe the Bible is inspired before it proves anything.

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    15. Re:Answer: The Bible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being that the bible is probably the most printed and, by extension, the most popular book of all time, I'll have to agree with you.

  137. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by johndiii · · Score: 1

    Concerning Ender's Game, the first half of that book was published as a novella in the seventies, IIRC. As such, it was a masterpice. The addition of the second half of the book worked pretty well, and Speaker for the Dead raised some interesting issues. Avoid everything after Speaker. IMO, Card is at his very best in short stories.

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  138. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by starcraftsicko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or it could just be that his writing has gone downhill so far that the publisher is trying desperately to put together something that makes sense. R.J. wouldn't be the first author to lose it as he aged and even a great publisher can't cover it up forever.

  139. Sorry, it was published in 2002 by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 1

    Doesn't count.

    1. Re:Sorry, it was published in 2002 by wondafucka · · Score: 1
      2002/2003. Same year, different number. I'm glad that we could Mini-Ego battle. I hope your extra two little points of esteem will go well with the other four. Hear is a spelling error for you to comment on as well.

      While I'm at it, try reading "Moldies and Meatbops" by Rudy Rucker. That one was compiled around 1997, but for some damn reason that one counts for 2003 too. Maybe because it's good.

      I don't know why I wasn't logged in when I made that quip, but it came as an AC. My MO is to be a well known coward.

      At any rate, the only reason I noticed it was marked as AC is because I wanted to apologize for being an asshole. I'm sorry.

  140. A dark horse candidate... by DuckDuckBOOM! · · Score: 1
    ...Varley's Red Thunder. The science and engineering work if you can get into suspension-of-disbelief mode in re the "squeeze" drive, the characters are marvelous, and the story is simply the most fun read I've had in a very long time.

    ...right here I was about to write "Would make a fantastic movie!" But then I remembered Millenium, slapped myself viciously in the face eight or nine times, and decided not to write that. But it's a very good book.

    DDB (who would gladly chip in a few $ in taxes to enable us to land a Bigfoot rover on Mars)

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  141. Life of Pi by PCM2 · · Score: 1

    See, I've often picked up this book after seeing all the stickers on it for the awards it's gotten, etc., but then I always put it back down. It seems the universal praise is: "And get this ... he's on the boat with a tiger! Isn't that wild? What a gripping story!"

    And yet, this doesn't sound all that "gripping" to me. It sounds like a story of limited scope that takes place in a single, mostly featureless setting. It doesn't sound like it has much characterization, based on the fact that it only has one character in it (plus tiger). Not to mention the fact that the idea of being in a lifeboat with a tiger sounds, well, a little ridiculous -- your typical "literary author's" contrivance.

    What's so good about it?

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    1. Re:Life of Pi by feldsteins · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What's so good about it?

      A very fair question. For starters, the first third of the book has nothing to do with adventure at sea. Rather, it is about Pi's life in his village in India. His views and practices with regard to religion are fascinating and provide for a number of interesting exchanges between him and other characters.

      As for the lifeboat sequences that comprise the rest of the book, I can only say this. Yes, one gets the feeling that the story is allegory. That it's meant to Mean Something Else. But it never quite has the feel of the fantastic. It's quite realistic even. Besides, I think you'll appreciate the end. By that point the whole "this can't really happen!" issue is addressed quite adequately.

      I understand your skepticism, but I still think you'd like it.

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    2. Re:Life of Pi by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1


      Just read the damn thing! It's a pretty short book, and a quick read. Irritating at times, fascinating at others, net result is that it's good and worth discussing. Like most good books, it's about far more than a simple one-line description leads you to believe. The more you ask about it and deliberate, the less you are going to enjoy it - just read it and forget what everyone else says about it.

      While you're at it, if you want a good book to read, pick up Soldier of the Great War by Mark Helprin. Totally OT, but I just like to mention that book to people who may not have read it. ;)

  142. Best: Einstein, Picasso by coolgabe · · Score: 1

    Einstein, Picasso: Space, Time, and the Beauty That Causes Havoc by Arthur I. Miller

    An incredible book (although released in 2002) that features these two revolutionary characters developing simultaneously in very similar circumstances.

    Most amazing is the comparisons of how each interprets space and time and how they apply this interpretation to their science/art. It becomes apparent that both Einstein and Picasso were working on the same basic problem.

  143. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by goodviking · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm re-reading them again right now actually, just because I got bored and wanted something to read. It's really, really sad, knowing what they are going to come to, since the first few books are just awesome. He's managed to create this incredibly intricate and believable world, and then proceeds to run all the characters into the ground ...

    I would recommend "The Internet Top 100 SF/Fantasy List" as a good reference for finding alternatives. It's really a fantastic resource (it's where I found "A Song of Fire and Ice"). I stopped reading the WOT when it seemed to cross from "great series" to "author's pension plan".

  144. Life of Pi and Middlesex by wazzzup · · Score: 3, Informative

    Although they came out in 2002 the paperback versions debuted in 2003.

    Life of Pi by Yann Martel. My favorite this year. What a fantastic book. It's no wonder many colleges and universities are incorporating it into their required reading cirriculum. An Indian boy becomes lost at sea after a ship he was riding on sinks. His only passenger in the lifeboat - a Bengal tiger.

    Middlesex by Jeffery Eugenides. Written by the same author of The Virgin Suicides. It's a story about a Greek girl (boy) born as a hermaphrodite in a Greek family and her experiences growing up in that environment and that condition. Won the Pulitzer I believe.

    Books rock. They are soooooo much better than the tripe offered on t.v. BTW, is anybody else offended that TLC stands for The Learning Channel? There's nothing learning about that channel anymore. Just Trading Spaces and the umpteen variations on that theme.

    1. Re:Life of Pi and Middlesex by fgb · · Score: 1

      I couldn't agree more. They used to have these series called "Understanding Festival" and "Great Books Festival". These were fantastic. Now everything is either something that should be on the diy channel or some alien abduction/conspiracy theory/ancient astronaut bull.

    2. Re:Life of Pi and Middlesex by echucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Ask yourself where the "music" is on MTV anymore while you're at it.

  145. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by johndiii · · Score: 1

    Actually, I think it's just the opposite. The first few books came out at fourteen-month intervals, but the reason for the extension is lies with Rigney, not with the publisher. I believe that the interval was first extended with Lord of Chaos, which was badly overdue. At this point, I really don't think that Rigney's work can be edited without his express consent. Kind of like Stephen King. We're getting WOT "at (his) own pace" and published "as-is". No self-respecting editor would go along with the last couple of WOT books unless forced.

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  146. Great Book unread by most by merciless · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine introduced me to "Sex, Time and Power" by Leonard Shlain, and whether you agree with this guy (who's the Chief of Laparoscopic Surgeon at California Pacific Medical Center), he'll definitely make you think about the ultimate cause - how evolutionary biology shape modern human's gender roles, sexuality and behaviors. It touched upon so many concepts and tied them up to a theory that he proposed as the ultimate factor in human evolution that made Homo Sapiens 150k years ago. Perhaps the most shocking thing is when I see myself in some of the behaviors he described that I thought were wel thought-out "mating strategies", but are in fact I'm just following um..mostly instinctual drives. Definitely made me think as much as any book I read this year.

  147. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Grei · · Score: 1

    If he was going downhill, I can't see them comissioning a prequel to the series. And yet there's talk of a prequel in the works.

    Grei

  148. 2 Books by blackmonday · · Score: 1, Informative

    I highly recommend 2 books: Fast Food Nation and The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. As Greg Palast of the former book says, buy it from Amazon.com, a non-profit company (unintentionally).

    Fast Food Nation might make you think twice about that Big Mac, and Best Democracy shows you the access and power of campaign donations.

  149. The Years of Rice and Salt by crhylove · · Score: 1

    was an excellent book. I read a bit, and this book was stunning on a number of levels. KSR's work has always been top notch, but this one is a departure in many ways, but NOT that way. it is a remarkable piece of work.

    rhY

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  150. My Lists by cmpalmer · · Score: 1

    I'm a terribly disorganized person who always intends on creating a reading diary or using my cobweb infested blog to record what I read, but never does. So, most of these books are very recent reads or things I *think* I read this year, but may have been last year.

    Biggest Disapointment: Quicksilver
    Bought it the day it came out, read it with great enthusiasm. Hit the reference books and the Quicksilver wiki frequently and learned a lot about the period. Bogged through slower and slower. Now it is sitting beside my reading chair with a bookmark somewhere past the 3/4 mark. I'm going to finish it. Really.

    Second Biggest Disappointment: The daVinci Code
    Granted, it was a fun read (like about 2 hours), but overall it was waaay too Crichton-like: huge, earthshattering ideas compressed into a slapdash movie treatment with lots of chase scenes, action set pieces, and simplistic characters.

    Most Eagerly Awaited No Show: A Feast For Crows

    Best Fantasy: Fool's Fate
    Great end to a great series and if Martin doesn't get some more stuff published, Robin Hobb is going to be my favorite fantasy author.

    Current Overall Favorite Author: Terry Pratchett
    Even though I didn't like Monstrous Regiment half as much as I wanted to. I did finally read The Bromeliad Trilogy and the Wee Free Men was great.

    What I'm Reading Now: Perdio Street Station
    About 1/3 of the way through and enjoying it immensely.

    Also Read/Liked:
    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
    To The Nines
    Q is for Quarry
    Shutter Island
    Tricky Business (hey, it was funny)
    The Honor Harrington Series (not great books, but I enjoyed them well enough to read them all)
    Flashman (been meaning to read that for a long time)
    Master and Commander (ditto)

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  151. a no vote for quicksilver by lophophore · · Score: 1

    I found Quicksilver to be painful to read. For instance, a significant character dies in the middle of the book, only to be replaced by his brother. Piffle and Rot!

    Stephenson's writing has been uneven, to be sure. The Diamond Age is another that let me down. Cryptonomicon was great, as was Snowcrash, but hey, we all can't be Stephen King, now, can we?

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    1. Re:a no vote for quicksilver by RedWizzard · · Score: 1
      The Diamond Age is another that let me down.
      Diamond Age has a very interesting vision of the future. But the story itself is dificult to get to terms with because so much of it is just "living in this world". Things are happening but it's not obvious what the point is because none of the main characters really have any sort of quest that they are on. It reminded me of Niven's Destiny Road in that regard. Not so much a story of somebody trying to achieve an end, as a story about part of someone's life.
    2. Re:a no vote for quicksilver by Tempus+Rex · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure he's actually dead. It seems like one of those things where he's gonna reappear as a corasair captin in the next book or something.

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    3. Re:a no vote for quicksilver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jack's certainly not dead. He's currently a galley slave. He'll be back.

    4. Re:a no vote for quicksilver by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I noticed a reference after he was taken as a galley slave to a new book published about the adventured of Half-Cocked Jack among the previously mentioned pirates.

      So, no, I don't think he's dead.

  152. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Into the nipples?

    Haven't you ever played "Periscope"? ;-)

  153. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by PCM2 · · Score: 1
    Why should the height of the editor make any difference?
    He said lengthy, not tall. Dig?
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  154. Comics Related by vjmurphy · · Score: 1

    Enjoyed the Neil Gaiman penned Endless Nights, as well as the various Fables graphic novels, written by Bill Willingham: Legends in Exile and Animal Farm.

    Joss Whedon's Fray is also out in trade paperback.

    For the more superhero-minded, the Busiek/Perez JLA/Avengers teamup is great (still one issue to go, though). And Mythology: The DC Comics Art of Alex Ross is certainly a pretty pretty book.

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  155. Big Idea Book of the Year -The New Financial Order by merciless · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The New Financial Order by Robert J. Shiller argues a way to remake modern economies as we know it by HEDGING THE WHOLE ECONOMY! Imagine if all the risks and shocks of our economy be cushioned by modern risk management techniques on a global scale, and you have a book that talk about such strange concepts as "profession insurance" to "inequality insurance" and "intergenerational social security". It's a must read for anybody who consider themselves at the cutting edge of modern thinking.

  156. Here Here! by (a*2)+(ron) · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Foucault's Pendulum is much better.

  157. Mod this parent up! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

    Mod this parent up! Why *do* we need to rank things???
    -russ

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  158. book of the year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok dudes and dudettes, i dont think the lord of the blings buisness was written this year? maybe the movie but movies arent books last time i checked. and alot of other boks mentioned werent written this year. but on the subject of the lord of the blings, hasnt anyone ever herad of the silmarillion? i think its actually better than the rest of the tolikien books and tolkien himself regarded it as his greatest work..

  159. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The entire wheel of time series is self-referential tacky cheeseball crap. Bad writing, inane plot, Jordan's a hack who hit on a niche.

  160. LOTR was a '2003' book now? by wackybrit · · Score: 1

    I see LOTR mentioned in several posts. LOTR came out MANY MANY years ago. It can't be a 'best book of 2003' as it's not 'of 2003'. This would be like calling Casablanca the movie of the year.

    1. Re:LOTR was a '2003' book now? by ThunderFoot · · Score: 1

      Ahhhh... Casablanca, yes, that was my favourite movie of the year. Specially that new version with Pamela Anderson in it.

  161. My top 5 books by 1arkhaine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In no particular order (And probably none of these books were written this year, oh well):

    Life of Pi - Yann Martel: A fantastic book dealing with a little boy on a boat with a tiger. Starts off a bit slow, and for a very long time you aren't really sure where it is heading, but stick with it because the last fifty pages or so are breathtaking. Probably the most thought provoking ending in a book this year.

    Love in the Time of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez: Basically a book looking at all the different types of love. Healthy love, obsessive love, unrequited love, family love, etc. Marquez has a typical fantasy-reality style which really works in this book (Imagine people buying a dozen roses for their lover and then eating each one because they love them too much)

    Infinite Jest - DF Wallace: A mind job. Extremely dense, this book has 1,000 'normal' pages and an extra 100 pages of footnotes that must be read. Hundreds of characters, tens of plot-lines, no real resolution or plot or point, this book is amazing. The joy is in the characters and the writing, which is phenomenal. Classic first line: I am in a room surrounded by heads with bodies. Beautiful stuff.

    Foucault's Pendulum - Umberto Eco: This book is smaller than Infinite Jest, but just as dense. The author is a phenomenally smart man, and it shows throughout this book. He makes thousands of throaway references to obscure medieval places, events, and people, and it all matters. Trying to keep your head around the plot as it spirals out of control is half the fun. Probably the ultimate conspiracy book ever: It ties everything that has ever happened together. What more could you want?

    Blindness - Jose Saramago: Saramago is a gifted writer. Everything he writes is so lyrical and poetic, metaphors and symbolism just drips from his pen onto the page. Blindness has a killer plot: For no reason, people are going blind. And it is contagious. An interesting study on humanity, Saramago focuses more on the philosophical side of everyone going blind than the potential hack doomsday plot which perhaps a lesser writer would have chosen. Be warned though, Saramago uses massive paragraphs, little punctuation, and nobody has a name. Once get used to the style, it flows perfectly, but it may provide a stumble to some.

    And there you have it. A few of my favourites, give them a try, they are all amazing.

    1. Re:My top 5 books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Infinite Jest - DF Wallace: A mind job. Extremely dense, this book has 1,000 'normal' pages and an extra 100 pages of footnotes that must be read.

      I'd say IJ is one of the worst books I've ever read. It just seems to be one of those snobby books that everybody likes to have on their bookshelf, and slog through it just to say they've read it.

      Hundreds of characters, tens of plot-lines, no real resolution or plot or point, this book is amazing.

      Now you see, to me, including so many characters that you have difficulty keeping track of them all or caring about any of them, and not having any particular story to tell is the sign of a fucking terrible book. Sorry for the language, but more polite language cannot adequately explain the atrocity of IJ.

    2. Re:My top 5 books by 1arkhaine · · Score: 1

      I disagree, obviously. For me, the wonder of the book was more then journey with the characters, and the quirky way it was told. I wasn't expecting plot, so I wasn't all that upset when I didn't get it.

      But I can understand if a person doesn't get it. It is a difficult book. Hell, if I didn't enjoy his writing style so much and the weird plot lines, I probably wouldn't have liked it either.

      But, you know, different strokes and all that.

  162. You've been had by Augusto · · Score: 1

    Also, while Moore is obviously anti-Republican, he's not by any means complimentary about the Democrats either

    His criticisms of Democrats is the same type of token critisms of Republicans O'Reilly throws out once in a while, just to seem more fair or "independent".

    Don't be fooled into believe these tricks.

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    1. Re:You've been had by Kris_J · · Score: 1
      If you're telling me that I should have been tricked into falling in love with the US Democrats after reading Moore's book, I think you're a little off base.

      I don't have Dude on hand, but I do have Stupid White Men and I quote: "You can choose between two political parties that sound alike, vote alike and are funded alike by the same exact wealthy donors". That sounds a little more than token. So, what's he selling? Voter apathy?

  163. why would I want that? by rbird76 · · Score: 1

    if I want to be shouted down by useless morons who can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie, I could work at Fox News - since I don't enjoy being sucked into arguments with morons (they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience) I don't see the point in it.

    Besides, if I knew stocks (or could fake knowing them), conjecture would get me a lot of places...like Darl McBride's speed dial.

  164. Did you read any of these books? by hellfire · · Score: 1

    Michael Moore is a brilliant man. He has always brought something new to the table. Al Franken is not only intelligent but funny.

    You sound like you are dismissing all political books as useless without actually reading them, because they do contribute new information. The information they contribute is in the DETAILS. For example, Al Franken refutes a lot of statements in Ann Coulter's and Bill O'Reilly's books as borderline libelous. It's that kind of discussion we NEED in the country, especially if one side is spreading false accusations. This discussion is not happening enough.

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  165. I read B. Bradley's book... by rbird76 · · Score: 1

    ...and it read like oatmeal strained to remove any element of flavor. It also seemed like a document written more for political reasons than to actually tell a story. I probably overgeneralized from that experience. Sorry.

  166. Re:Quicksilver? You are too kind! by theantix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    * The characters feel similar to those in Cryptonomicon (another crazy Shaftoe, Daniel Waterhouse is akin to the main character from Crypto).

    Close, but not strong enough. Apparently Stephenson was bored with the creative process and couldn't be assed to imagine new characters... so let's reissue a new Shaftoe and a new Waterhouse in a new era. Oh, and in case it wasn't clear enough that we are reusing the same characters lets bring back Enoch Root!

    But of course there need to be characters that weren't in previous novels... how can Neal accomplish this without excerting any creative effort? Simple, just throw in a bunch of historical characters and make them do silly things. Dull moment in the plot? Hey look, Issac Newton's at the door. Getting bored are we? Let's chill with Ben Franklin! It's not interesting to read because there is nothing new here... it seems like he's competely given up on the creative process altogether.

    * One of the hardest things to do right when there are parallel plotlines is connect them in a flowing and lucid manner. Cryptonomicon did an excellent job of weaving the past and present together. In Quicksilver, we get large chunks of uninterrupted narration, but there's very little context switching. This left me a little bored at times.

    The problem with this style is not the style itself, but with how Stephenson executes it in this case. In Cryptonomicon I actually cared enough to keep reading the next page, but in this case it was tedious slogging through the pages. I'd put it down and pick it up again a few days later and it would keep jumping around and didn't ever allow me to build any sort of context. This in turn made me care even less which increased the time before I would try picking it up again, which made the context jumping even more painful, etc etc.

    As you might be able to tell, I didn't finish the first volume, nor am I remotely interested in the next two. I'm just hoping that after he's done with this stupid "epic" he'll go back to writing books that are readable and interesting and contain characters who aren't simply reruns and references to historical figures. Because I really really liked his work in the past, and I'm bitter now.

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  167. Quicksilver by Bugmaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, I'd nominate Quicksilver for worst book of the year. Sure, it has everything -- sex, adventure, politics, etc. -- but all this stuff is so jumbled, random, disorganized and pretentious that reading the book feels like nothing more than a tedious chore. At least Cryptonomicon had encryption in it. Bah.

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  168. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by ShortedOut · · Score: 1

    RJ needs a new editor, one that won't let his ego write crappy books.

    It's like somewhere along the line, he forgets that he's writing a story, and thinks that he's writing a character study, or whatever.

    It's obvious that he's trying to be a "world builder" like Tolkein, and that the Fantasy novel is all about the "world" but Jesus man, please just finish your story!!!

    Little less conversation, little more action.

  169. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by ShortedOut · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, shoot me, mod me down, whatever you gotta do. I liked this book. Yes, I'm a 29 year old netadmin, and yes, it isn't cool to like this kind of stuff. But hey, I'm a freaking nerd.

    I'm sorry, but the Harry Potter books are extremely well written, and are highly entertaining to read, even as an "adult".

    Ok, I'm going into hiding now.

    1. Re:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by ShortedOut · · Score: 3, Funny

      DAMNIT!

      Post Anony is too damn close to Submit! My rep is ruined!

      Damn you Slashdot! Damn you!!!

      Oh, this isn't the *real* ShortedOut... no, I'm his co-worker.. yeah, that's it... A co-worker that likes Harry Potter, yeah...

      The real ShortedOut is way cool, he dates Carmen Electra, has a 12 inch peen, drives a Harley, and is on Linus's phone-a-friend list for Who Wants to be a Linux Programmer.

    2. Re:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's where having a Net Connection That Sucks comes in handy. Will always get to reach "ESC" and stop sending before the SYN/ACK for HTTP POST reaches my box :)

    3. Re:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by Little+Brother · · Score: 1

      Um, actually I thought it was cool to like the book. Which is why the New York Times made a seperate catagory for children's books in their bestsellers ratings, because so many "adult" book authors got their feelings hurt because they have no chance against Harry Potter. Kinda funny really.

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    4. Re:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't worry about it -- screw people who don't like it just because it's popular. It's a great series of books. I'm with Stephen King when he says the series is "one for the ages" that will stand the test of time along with Tolkien, Wizard of Oz, or name your classic of literature.

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    5. Re:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 1
      Ok, shoot me

      *Bang*. I thought it was pretty much Goblet of Fire warmed up, with a few teenage tantrums thrown in. The best book of 2003 was definitely Crap Towns, but it would be utterly meaningless to anyone from outside England.

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  170. Re: Snow Crash by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

    Actually, I found Snow Crash to be a bit of a dissapointment (having just read it this week for the first time). I'm not sure I'll read anything else by Stephenson (even allowing that it's probably one of his earlier works?).

    It lacked polish and pacing. The plot had problems with maintaining tension or building to a climax. It was a lot of really neat scenes cobbled together. The ending was anti-climatic... when I got to the last page I wondered where the last chapter was. Not sure if the book needed to be twice as long (to flesh it out more), or if some parts shouldn't have been chopped to allow other sections to be fleshed out properly.

    I could go into details, but it would be spoilerish (but I will if asked).

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  171. Or alternatively, by gonerill · · Score: 2, Informative
  172. Nothing like a good dystopia by NorseWolf · · Score: 1

    Having not been able to read too many books this year, it's not easy to make a well-founded proposal for the "best book" of the year. That said, I still think "Oryx and Crake" by Margareth Atwood was a real enjoyment to read! The dystopia presented in this book is described credibly, funny and though-provokingly, and in many ways it doesn't look as far away as one might think. The imagined consequences of ever-more-powerful international corporation, increasing public indifference and disillusionment, genetic engineering gone astray, terrorism and much-too-visionary nerd-geniuses are keywords in describing the world in which "Snowman" grows up - eventually to find himself the last human being on earth. Not often you see the author of a science fiction novel being a favourite for receiving the Nobel Price.

    1. Re:Nothing like a good dystopia by Zardoz44 · · Score: 1
      She's been nominated for countless awards, and has won several here and there. She even wrote a Sci-Fi book called The Handmaid's Tale which won the Arthur C. Clark award in 1987.

      Margaret Atwood

  173. "Hidden Warrior" by Lynn Flewelling by miu · · Score: 1
    The sequel to the "Bone Doll's Twin".

    I really liked the "Bone Dolls Twin", it managed to be sad, creepy, and of a grand scale. The sequel is nearly as good, but the focus has moved on to court intrigue and the main character moving into a position of power.

    Even if you hate "girl power" fantasy (like I do) you can enjoy these books. Despite the female protagonist and female author they do not fall into the "elves and unicorns crap", the "revisionist goddess worship pandering", or the "rainbow dragons flying out my ass" fantasy sub-genres that seem to make up 90% of the popular fantasy section of the bookstore

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  174. These books are utter crap. by Augusto · · Score: 1

    I flipped through some of Franken's book, have flipped through some of those books, and had the unfortunate experience of reading one of O'Reilly's books. I have not recovered yet.

    > For example, Al Franken refutes a lot of statements in Ann Coulter's and Bill O'Reilly's books as borderline libelous. It's that kind of discussion we NEED in the country, especially if one side is spreading false accusations. This discussion is not happening enough.

    When I flipped through Frankens book, I found a chapter dealing with him challenging another obscure pundit into a fist fight.

    http://www.al-franken.com/excerpt.html#chap38

    I'm sorry man, but these are the rantings and ravings of kindergarden politics. Who the hell cares what the unknown political pundit said about Democrats? Who the hell cares that Franken wanted to fight him?

    These books are just red-meat for the true believers, they pander to their audience and provide no real intellectual discussion of politics. They are the equivalent of simplistic religious tracts, you see littered all over the place.

    Did I already mention I don't like these books?

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    1. Re:These books are utter crap. by jbrians · · Score: 1

      I guess you'd better go stick your head in the sand then. Careful not to read any more of these books, or one of them might accidentally surprise and inform you.

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    2. Re:These books are utter crap. by Augusto · · Score: 1

      So if you don't read these books you have your head stuck in the sand? Wow.

      I'll keep browsing these at Barnes & Noble, there's no need to waste money on them. There are much better things to read.

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    3. Re:These books are utter crap. by kelzer · · Score: 1

      Just so you know - Al Frankin is a comedian and comedy writer who happens to use right-wing politics as a source. I mean, the guy used to be on Saturday Night Live. The stuff about challenging the guy to a fight was funny, but you have to read it in context - you can't just start reading at that point and assume "wow, this guy's full of himself, bragging about picking a fight".

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    4. Re:These books are utter crap. by jbrians · · Score: 1

      There are much more fun things to read - there are few more important things to read. My point is that it's just lazy giving up to say that all political commentary is without merit. Lots of these books are written by crackpots, but if you do a little research before you buy you will find that many of them don't. You can ignore politics, but politics will not ignore you.

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  175. And another thing regarding Quicksilver... by flamingweasel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All of the above posts are spot on, except they leave out the most excruciating part of the books: the "love scenes," wherin the female main character gets it on with every single male in a position of power over her. Offensive in the extreme, uninteresting, and thrown in every few hundred pages to keep the lowest of lowbrow interested in the plot. Awful. I just stopped a few hundred pages from the end because I was tired of enduring that shit.

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    1. Re:And another thing regarding Quicksilver... by adrianbaugh · · Score: 1

      What, Galadriel? I suppose she's a bit flirty, what with giving away locks of her hair and all... Um... Goldberry? Ha. She didn't even make the films! Er... Rosie? Ho hum. Maybe Eowyn. Well, she has a crush but it seems to me to be pretty unrequited and directed towards only one male character. Arwen? Nah, seems to me she has eyes only for Aragorn. If anything I'd say LoTR females are unrealistically monogamous, rather than unrealistically flirty. There are a few love scenes but they're pretty low-key and not particularly offensive in the way you suggest. If you're looking for instant outrage I'd suggest starting with pretty much any other recent Hollywood film; there are plenty far more badly behaved, shallow, degrading, ill-written female parts out there than those in LoTR. I suppose I've been trolled but given this has been given +4, Insightful rather than -1, Troll I felt someone ought to respond.

      As for those who reckon it's all Hitler-loving nonsense, try comparing it to der Ring des Nibelungen, which was pre-Hitler. Okay, Hitler liked Wagner. What about the ancient Norse sagas, then? There are still plenty of similarities and the Jews didn't even have much contact with the Norse. You can make SCO-style[0] Nazi comparisons out of anything, it doesn't mean they're valid.

      [0] (a) "Look! Linux and SCO both have a file called errno.h, Linux must have copied SCO"
      (b) "Look! Nazi literature[1] and Tolkien used some of the same motifs. Tolkien must be a Nazi!"
      See the similarity? Yet most slashdotters can easily identify the fallacy in (a).

      [1] Not to mention every other hero saga of the last 2000 years.

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    2. Re:And another thing regarding Quicksilver... by adrianbaugh · · Score: 1

      Okay, I'm embarrassed now. I didn't spot the change of thread or the title of the post I was replying to. I hereby place myself in the slashdot stocks for a week. You'll find a limitless supply of rotten tomatoes to your left.

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    3. Re:And another thing regarding Quicksilver... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bahaha

    4. Re:And another thing regarding Quicksilver... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the Jews didn't even have much contact with the Norse

      Don't be so sure, after all, the Vikings went to America before Columbus. The Vikings also traded with Middle Eastern civilizations (sold e.g. furs using the Russian rivers as trading routes to go fast by boat).

  176. Ones I liked this year. by mbourgon · · Score: 1

    David Brin - Kiln People. Pretty damn clever way to write a detective novel - from the point of view of the cast-off "clones" of the main character that will die in a couple of days.

    James Alan Gardner - Trapped. Far future sci-fi, set on a reconstructed earth, that turns out to be a Fantasy novel. (nano used as magic). And the 90-degree turn at the end that makes you question everything that's happened so far.

    Sean Williams, Shane Dix: Orphans of Earth. Book 2 of a ultra-far-future space opera. Very well done, but you need to read book 1 first.

    China Mieville - Perdido Street Station. Still working on it, as it's a dense book (600+ pages, small type, dense wording). I have no idea what genre this would be - Steampunk Fantasy, maybe? But he tells a compelling story, very descriptively, but without becoming "The Description of Shannara".

    John Barnes - Candle. Not from 2003, but a nice finisher for his Resuna books.

    Jack McDevitt - Engines of God. Another not-his-latest, but now having read 3 of his books, they all seem very similar anyhow. Well worth reading.

    Warren Ellis - Planetary. Picked up Vol 2 this year, utterly fantastic. The "secret history" of a world with modern superheroes.

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  177. Some Great Classics by miyako · · Score: 1

    It seems this year I've only read books that are at least half a century old, as others have said, books do have a long shelf life, so check some of these out if you run across them.
    Flatland - A Romance of Many Dimentions
    this is a quite short book, easy to read in a day, and you can probably find it for $5 at B&N. While the mathematical aspects of the book are going to seem simplistic to anyone who's passed highschool geometry, the commentary on victorian societies is interesting.
    Brave New World
    One of my favorite books of all time, the dialoug can be a little hard to follow at times, but definity worth it.
    Beowolf
    ...imagine a Beo.. seriously an interesting read
    Thus Spake Zarathustra
    A great read for those interested in philosophy
    The Prince
    Another short book, handy if you ever become the ruler of a country ;)
    Critique of Pure *
    A great series for those interested in philosophy

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  178. DaVinci Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The story was mildly interesting. The whole "writing" thing is definitely not Mr. Brown's strength, however. His clunky phrasing made this a hard one for me to read.

    The tinfoil-hat mystique, religious hoody-hoo, and the retardation of following a symbologist-stud around Europe is annoying, as well. I'd like to be the millionth to congratulate Mr. Brown on failing to emulate the suave of James Bond.

    I could have forgiven it all if the writing was in the least decent.

    HeinousJay (anonymous because I modded.)

  179. OFFTOPIC - I think I got fucked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why, if I post AC then I can mod afterward, but if I mod then post AC, it undoes the mod? This makes no sense to me.

    Lesson learned...

  180. Worst: Clancy's "Teeth of the Tiger" by wakebrdr · · Score: 1

    This guy is completely worthless anymore.

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    1. Re:Worst: Clancy's "Teeth of the Tiger" by Lagrange5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Tom Clancy used to be a master of the "techno thriller," a genre he arguably created (if you ignore Forsyth, Ludlum, etc.). His characters were a bit wooden but the plots crackled with action and authenticity, and his morality was predictable but not preachy. His character Jack Ryan started out as a pretty regular, commonsense guy, but his importance became increasingly inflated as Clancy's fame and fortune grew. In recent tomes Clancy's become increasingly verbose and much more willing to espouse his extremist political agenda.

      Now the Ryan character is the former U.S. president, and "The Teeth of the Tiger" attempts to catapult Ryan's teenage son Jack Jr. to do the world's work. Sad to report that this is Clancy's worst book yet, and it's a shadow of the brilliance he showed with "The Hunt for Red October."

      Too bad Clancy suffers from "successful writer syndrome" (he's too powerful for editors to get through to him) and it now appears that he's relying on ghostwriters to finish his works. It seems he's so rich that nowadays he's got better things to do with his time and money than do what he's best at.

      If you want a really good belly laugh, go read the often hilarious reviews of The Teeth of the Tiger on Amazon. They're a lot more enjoyable than the book itself.

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    2. Re:Worst: Clancy's "Teeth of the Tiger" by danny · · Score: 1
      Heh, I got email from Clancy himself complaining about my review of Clear and Present Danger ...

      Danny.

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  181. The Lone Drow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    R.A. Salvatores 2nd of the latest trilogy pits Drizzt Do'Urden vs lots of orcs! I am not a big D and D fan at all but I like the hack and slash nature =)

  182. Positively Fifth Street by alkali · · Score: 1

    Ditto on that. The book is about an author who goes to the World Series of Poker to play and then report on the experience, with the idea that he would just report after he got knocked out. Turned out he got to the final table. Pretty comeplling stuff.

  183. Havana by Stephen Hunter by ari_j · · Score: 1

    Havana is by far my favorite book that came out in 2003. And my most intensely unfavorite book of the year...well, I don't read shitty books, so I can't list one that really stood out.

  184. Ilium by konrd · · Score: 1

    I've been eyeing 'Ilium' by Dan Simmons for a while. Has anyone out there read this? Is it worth reading?

    1. Re:Ilium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I read it right after it came out. At first it feels a little like a rehashing of some of his older books, but it quickly becomes much more than that. I wouldn't say its his best work, but its definitely a good read and when the next book in the series comes out I'll be in line to buy it.

    2. Re:Ilium by Ari0ch · · Score: 1

      i'd also recommend it. i bought it on a whim after hearing a review on NPR and couldn't put it down once i started. the only gripe i have (and don't let it stop you from reading it) is that it ends on a signifigant cliffhanger.

    3. Re:Ilium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the cliffhanger would be in part becuase this is the 1st book in a 2 part series.

  185. Altered Carbon by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

    now I just wish the other 2 would come out here in the states.

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  186. Moneyball by alkali · · Score: 1
    I am somewhat surprised that no one mentioned Moneyball, Michael Lewis' book about how stats geeks are reinventing baseball.

    Long story short: baseball thinking is dominated by longstanding rules of thumb, like the need to have a "clutch hitter" -- i.e., someone who can bat in runners on base when your team is down. Stats nerds who started looking seriously at baseball in the 1970s realized that a lot of these rules of thumb are flawed: among other things, it turns out that there is no such thing as a clutch hitter. The Oakland A's were the first team to use this information to build a contending team with a low-dollar payroll, and this book tells that story. Very interesting even if you aren't a hardcore baseball fan.

  187. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Little+Brother · · Score: 1

    Light! Am I the only person who liked CoT? It gave EXACTALY what I wanted, more information on how the rest of the world reacted to the extreme amounts of channeling that was required to cleanse the OP and more information about what everybody else was doing at the time. Personaly I think that if RJ hadn't included these elements, you'd all be bitching about what he left out! Blood and bloody ashes people! Have you no patience? Don't try to rush the last battle, it will come when it will come.

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    Little Brother, watching the watchers

  188. Cold Mountain by donheff · · Score: 1

    It doesn't really qualify as a 2003 book, but the movie is just coming out so why not... The book is strangely haunting. Much like Gabriel Garcia Marquez' One Hundred Years of Solitude. If the movie is half as good, it will be great.

    Don

  189. Ilium by Dan Simmons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was highly impressed with some of his work in the Hyperion series and had to pick this up when everyone else was clamouring over Quicksilver. From what I've read on this thread so far I made the right decision. At first the book felt a little like a rehashing of some of his other books, but it quickly became much more and expanded on some new ideas. Overall a very good read.

  190. and it makes a lovely doorstop by hurtstotouchfire · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nothing like using Stephenson's 900 page opuses to give your place that geek chic flair.

  191. The Scar, Ilium, The Knight, Fourth Mansions by Nova+Express · · Score: 2, Interesting
    By China Mieville, Dan Simmons, Gene Wolfe and R. A. Lafferty, respectively. Only the Simmons came out this year, and the Wolfe comes out next.

    If you're interested in slightly more detailed descriptions of what I've read this year, you can check out my reading diary.

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    http://www.lawrenceperson.com/

  192. The reason she pisses you off so much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is she is so damn good at what she does.Don't take it all so literally.You have to understand she is trying to get you.Hell she even pissed off the National Review just after 9/11 with;
    "Invade their countries"
    "Kill their leaders"
    "Convert them to Christianity"
    A beautiful statement in the face of the attack the only person with a better line was Karl-Heinz Stockhausen.(look it up)
    Yeah liberals wanted to silence Ann Conservatives fired her.Stockhausen's Art-Fag peers wanted to institutionalise/lobotomize him.

  193. ...Because Jordan wrote himself into a corner... by IBitOBear · · Score: 1

    (IMHO of course) The wheel of time books are getting slower and more tedious because Jordan wrote himself into a corner...

    Reconcile the following:

    1) The dark-one's prison must not be patched, it must be made whole again to the degree that it was never breached.

    2) The only thing that can undo things and unmake things is Balefire.

    3) When you Balefire something the timeline is rewound and replayed with the event removed.

    So... Rand has to balefire the forsaken "hard enough" to unmake them far enough that the dark-one's prison was never opened (or possibly even never found).

    Unfortunately, that would then prevent the breaking of the world and the third age would never have taken place.

    This is a very unhappy Star Trek version of time paradox that leads to the "story that never happened". The way things are laid out now the story can not conclude.

    The story is fixable, of course, if several things happen:

    1) "The bore" is altered so that it is no-longer a hole cut into the dark-one's prison, but instead a tunnel around the structure of reality (sort of voice-over-IP style magical conduit) so that the dark ones prison was never actually breached. All of the references to the breach are simply declared deleberately apocryphal "because the forsaken were not so stupid as to tell anybody how they *really* accessed the dark one and his power."

    2) A blanket means of cleaning up old enchantments needs to be introduced. Sort of a Bale-washing-up-fluid that can snuff out anything from sa-angrel to that golem thingy that can only be harmed by anti-magic. The diswater-of-fate then needs to be sudzed up to a nice foam and pored on the bore, the forsaken, and every piece of culendar (sp?) after it is all piled up on the dragonmount.

    3) The FORSAKEN have to loose their SNIDLEY WIPLASH and his doomed dasterdly deeds flavor.

    I mean seriously, the thirteen greatest mages (give or take) of the second age are unleashed on the third age with all of their lost knowledge of the "one power" and their access to the "true power" and the best thing they can come up with is sleeping their way into the bed/court of a queen?

    The more detail Jordan provides on the actions and schemes of his villians, the DUMBER they look when the punk kids stumble into their plots and wreck them by apparently random action.

    This is plot suicide.

    At some point he has to stop digging the hole deeper and start digging a ramp out, otherwise we might as well just stop reading and start watching DragonBall-Z. It's got the same pointless escalation of power etc and you don't have to memorize a list of names...

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  194. My 42 Cents by hao2lian · · Score: 1

    Eragon, Harry Potter, Digital Fortress, Short History of Nearly Everything.

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    1. Re:My 42 Cents by hao2lian · · Score: 1

      ...other books by Dan Brown, and the Artemis Fowl trilogy.

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  195. Re:Robert "No closure" Jordan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The wheel weaves what the wheel wills.. or in this case RJ weaves what RJ wills

  196. Moore's response by rev063 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    And Moore has published a response to these and other criticisms. Of course, it's still a case of he-said/she-said, but he does cite some pretty reliable sources for his facts. And, as he points out, he hasn't been sued by the NRA. I think they might have sued if they could prove falsehood.

    There's also an interesting third-party discussion of Moore's response on kuro5hin.

    1. Re:Moore's response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I dont belive organizations can sue for libel

    2. Re:Moore's response by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

      The fact that you're not sure whether the kids went bowling that day or not is part of the point: that this has just as much to do with them killing their classmates as goth music.

      While I agree that the bowling issue is irrelevant, Moore is clearly a nutcase. His "counterargument" page is mostly confused sputtering that mostly fails to bolster his original claims. As hardylaw.net points out in rebuttal to Moore's backpedalling:

      [Moore states]"Far from deliberately editing the film to make Heston look worse, I chose to leave most of this out and not make Heston look as evil as he actually was." Sure. That's why he left out: "As you know, we've cancelled the festivities, the fellowship we normally enjoy at our annual gatherings."

      I liked Roger & Me a lot, but he's gotten a little too smugly self-righteous of late.

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    3. Re:Moore's response by Otter · · Score: 1
      The fact that you're not sure whether the kids went bowling that day or not is part of the point: that this has just as much to do with them killing their classmates as goth music.

      Sorry, I guess I was unclear about my point: criticizing Moore about the bowling is a non-issue for me. Editing speeches and ads to the point of outright distortion, on the other hand, is utterly dishonest and unacceptable in a claimed "documentary". And as Dun Malg added, Moore's defense of that editing is inane.

  197. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by cduffy · · Score: 1

    Damn you, introducing *more* people to A Song of Fire and Ice?

    How am I supposed to find a copy of A Feast For Crows in the bookstore if there're so many people looking for it the moment it comes out? :)

  198. Ian McEwan's Atonement by pilkul · · Score: 2
    Probably this will be ignored by the moderators, since most of the slashdot population reads nothing but pulp fantasy and SF. But anyway, if anyone here is interested in reading a novel with any substance, I recommend Ian McEwan's Atonement as this year's best.

    Ian McEwan is one of those very rare authors who seems never to have written a bad word. He is a master of deep characterization and psychology, and Atonement is certainly his most ambitious and arguably his best book so far: a fine WW2-era historical novel, with engaging battle scenes and portrayals of life in wartime hospitals.

    1. Re:Ian McEwan's Atonement by lurker412 · · Score: 1

      Well, at least one other person here likes McEwan, so you're not all alone. Slashdotters seem to be more serious about technology than fiction. Ooops, flamebait...shame on me.

  199. Everyone replying to this says the opposite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    HaHaHa!
    And they are serious! The irony!
    Savage is a twit O'reilly a blowhard neither are acepted as "Conservatives"
    But Ann on the otherhand is our anorexic intellectual SEX GODESS!

  200. You live in a spiderhole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Al Gore failed to steal the election.
    And despite all the talk from his camp...
    All the unofficial after the fact liberal,commie,bedwtter,academic/journalist recounts favored BUSH!
    There was NO scenario under which Gore won hence no stolen election

  201. Pattern Recognition by hurtstotouchfire · · Score: 1
    Thank goodness! For some reason my search wasn't pulling up any reference to Pattern Recognition under this story.

    I definitly think Gibson's losing his wind, but I can't say I mind. The prose is still phenomenal, he's not blatantly leaving his books uncut, and the plots and essential characters are vaguely familiar, but still much loved.

    Now I do have to acknowledge that Gibson's showing signs of running out of ideas. We've got another story about searching for a strange and mysterious anonymous genius of an artist, we've got another character named Case (although, granted now it's Cayce, and she's a girl), we've got a few other blatanly recycled characters.

    But I honestly didn't mind. It's new Gibson for chrissakes. Jack it into my arm. I did really like CayceP's quirk about removing the brand names from all her clothing. Especially the bit about the levis logos having been ground off the fronts of the buttons on her new 501s by a confused chinese lock smith in NYC. I also really enjoyed the email and website stuff.

    It's about the same Gibson, even with the supposed present tense. It's still a book containing two types of people, the inhuman rich and the raw talents. It's still got great toys and marvelously quirky characters.

    It's fine with me that he's recycling old plots. So long as they still flow, and theyre still edited.

    1. Re:Pattern Recognition by lowe0 · · Score: 1

      Pattern Recognition was indeed fantastic - it was one of the best books I read in 2002.

      It was in December 2002, though, so it'd be easy to mix into this year's books.

    2. Re:Pattern Recognition by hurtstotouchfire · · Score: 1

      I rather suspected it might be 2002, but abe has it as 2003, and so does amazon. It's generally listed as February 2003. It's also included in a lot of top ten 2003 lists. I don't have a problem with the possibility of being wrong here or anything, but I couldn't find a definitive date anywhere.

  202. Oprah for president? by Augusto · · Score: 1

    > michael moore wants oprah to run.

    That just proves my point.

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  203. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For me CoT was the best WoT book. And when book 9 came out and everybody was whining that nothing happened I just couldn't stop reading and re-reading the descriptions of different cities and being amazed at the thousand small details that were just right.

    The first books were about a fantasy world where some fantasy characters do amazing things. They were good, very good. But by now the story has evolved to being a history of a world where the characters are almost real. And to me this is the thing that sets WoT apart from the rest of fantasy.

  204. Ann Coulter is French too LOL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coulter is a french name, it must be so difficult for her to hate herself and love herself so much.

  205. Main point of the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is not that guns cause violence. Moore goes into Canada and apon noticing that Canadians have as much if not more weapons than Americans comes up with the conclusion that owning guns is not the problem. His conclusion was that violence was complex - everything from the attitude of the media to the attitude of the government contributes to the problem.

  206. Re:...Because Jordan wrote himself into a corner.. by buh-andy · · Score: 1

    Too bad someone can't balefire the plot back to book five. That might help solve the problem some.

    I gave up on the books. Too much to re-read to keep up with the so-called plot. Reminds me of when Paul Smith left the X-men and the plots went to crap about that time cause Claremont had to include every mutant known to man in the storylines.

  207. My pick by another_hack · · Score: 1

    "Mein Kampf" describes a place that could be 2003. Regardless, this is a fine work.

  208. Re:Sorry, I don't care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2002/2003. Same year, different number. I'm glad that we could Mini-Ego battle. I hope your extra two little points of esteem will go well with the other four. Hear is a spelling error for you to comment on as well.

    While I'm at it, try reading "Moldies and Meatbops" by Rudy Rucker. That one was compiled around 1997, but for some damn reason that one counts for 2003 too. Maybe because it's good.

  209. GOOD: Bone Mountain by Eliot Pattison by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bone Mountain by Eliot Pattison. About as non-geek as you can get. A fugitive chinese political prisoner helping tibetan monks restore a diety to its rightful place. Great insights into tibetan spiritualism, culture and chinese occupation. Third book with same protaganoists, placed with the mystery genre but transcends it.

    For comparison I also like Gibson and Stephenson and my usual recreational reading are simple mysteries.

  210. Best and Worst? by mnmn · · Score: 1

    What is a book?

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    "Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
  211. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by the_one_smiley · · Score: 1

    Crossroads of Twilight was about 800 pages of women being bitchy at each other, and men bitching about women. I found it incredibly realistic!

    Has anyone tried applying simple population dynamics to the plot twists in Wheel of Time? Will the number of plot twists eventually decline to zero, allowing the series to be concluded, or will it reach an equilibrium value, allowing RJ to write books forever? Right now the number seems to be growing exponentially...

    - Smiley =)

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    "Never put off for tomorrow what can be avoided altogether"
  212. I forgot... by Moses+Lawn · · Score: 1

    By the way, to CmdrTostado:

    I'm sorry they moderated you as 'Troll'. Some people can't seem to understand how someone can have views different than their own (or the mainstream).

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    What if life is just a side effect of some other process and God has no idea we exist?

  213. Best book is a wakeup call... by blankmange · · Score: 2

    The Myth of Homeland Security by Marcus J. Ranum. Shows the essential truth about homeland security.

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    ...we are from the government - we are here to help...
  214. Re:The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttim by MrCreosote · · Score: 1

    I 3rd it - I have a son with 'mild' Asperger's. Nowhere near as bad as the protagonist of the book, but certainly I could recognize aspect of him in the character. It made my head hurt to view things from his perspective.

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    MrCreosote Meow!Thump!Meow!Thump!Meow!Thump! "You're right! There isn't enough room to swing a cat in here!"
  215. Jennifer Government by bananafish2000 · · Score: 1

    My vote for best book of the year would be Jennifer Goverment by Max Barry.

  216. A Short History of Nearly Everything by job0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson was the book I enjoyed the most this year. He did make a few mistakes and he does gloss things over but it's an excellent read for anyone that wants to know about most of the major scientific advances in the last 300 years and the people that have made them. For me the real strength of the book is the way he brings these people to life with his anecdotes and the fact that he makes the very important point of how incredibly little we know.

  217. Robert Bork by msonic · · Score: 1

    The best political book I have ever read is "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" by Robert H. Bork (1996). It is nothing like any of the current crop of political books. If you have any interest in politics, it is a must read.

    Bork was nominated by President Reagan to the U.S. Supreme Court in 1987, and was turned down because he is conservative. If you are not conservative, don't reject this book out of hand.

    Bork impressed me a lot, and I am not easy to impress. I am going to read his other books. Bork is a learned person and you will truly be informed by this book. Don't believe any negative reviews you may read about it. It is penetrating, informative, and pertinent. Bork changed my opinion. Two big thumbs up.

  218. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Enonu · · Score: 1

    Believe it or not, I did the same exact thing. Waiting in anticipation for book four. Working down the top 100 list in the meantime.

  219. My fav books of the Year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here is my list for the year Paris 1919 - how the treaty ending WWI shaped the 20th century. The rise of Nazism, problems in the middle east... Fast Food Nation - whoah McEvil empire How The Scots Invented the Modern World - the first literate society, without the baggage of the English class system What Went Wrong - The Clash Between Islam and Modernity - explains much of why the islamic world hates the west The Asassins - A Radical Sect in Islam - the origins of using murder as a political tool -

  220. Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi by Stanza · · Score: 1
    My favourite this year has been "Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood". It's written by a women who was 10 years old in Iran in 1970 during the revolutions. It's the only comic book that I could compare to "Maus: A Survivor's Tale".

    The iranian.com has an excerpt. Check it out.

  221. Teeth of the Tiger - Worst book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since I don't see a any comment crapping all ver this poorly written "book", I can only imagine that most readers have put it out of their minds. I only wish I could because it is a supremely forgettable book. It' so poorly written that I suspect that Tom Clancy had it ghost written and it went to press before _anyone_ had a chance to proofread it. Give this book to someone you don't like for Christmas. You can have my copy cheap.

  222. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

    Nope, you're not the only one. I managed to get through Cryptonomicon, but only barely. It would have been a great book if it was half the length.

    The worst part of the whole book was the painful -- oh, so painful -- part about eating Captain Crunch cereal. What possessed the man to write that self-indulgent drivel? Sheesh, did he read some Ayn Rand the night before?

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    Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
  223. "The Company" by Robert Littell was good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A fairly decent bit of historical fiction.

  224. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're not alone, Little Brother. I've been entertained by all ten books. I can't really see what people are bitching about. Wheel of Time has never once bored me like, say, the Two Towers did.

  225. Moore's response by autechre · · Score: 1


    http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

    The fact that you're not sure whether the kids went bowling that day or not is part of the point: that this has just as much to do with them killing their classmates as goth music.

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    WMBC freeform/independent online radio.
  226. I'd call it book of the year by orthancstone · · Score: 1

    Ilium is far from being as good as Hyperion, but it is extremely ambitious and interesting. The multiple plot threads are handled extremely well. A great read and hopefully Olympos will finish it up as well as Ilium started it.
    I was wondering how far down I'd have to scroll to see something on this book.

  227. Who likes music? by ChilyMack · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The best book, by far, that I read this year (and I read many good books) was "The Student Conductor", by Robert Ford. Here's a review I posted at Amazon: "If this novel did not have a masterfully intricate plot, intriguingly human characters, and the liquid, powerful feel of absorbing a symphony in bed, I would read it for the language. The language is such that occasionally I was stopped in the middle of an established rhythm to find myself rereading a sentence, struck by how perfectly it expressed itself. My only warning to a potential reader would be to wait until you're willing to spend some time with it. With work piling up on both sides, I sat down for a break with this book and read it in its entirety within the span of an afternoon, evening, and night. Having finished, I wanted to sit down with the author - or any of his characters - over coffee. Well written, Mr. Ford. " It's not a technical book, in the electronic sense, but it's definitely a worthwhile read.

  228. Two Mathematics books by DonK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Marcus du Sautoy's The Music of the Primes, and John Derbyshire's Prime Obsession are two books on the history and lore of the Riemann Hypothesis (after the solution of Fermat's Last Theorem, now generally considered the foremost oustanding unsolved mathematical problem). Surprisingly different, each has content which is mathematically substantial but aimed at a general (OK, ambitious) audience with enough biographical and historical background to suggest the point of this conjecture, and give reasons why a solution may be forthcoming.

  229. Best: Ilium, What Liberal Media? Worst: Potter 5 by monomakh · · Score: 1

    My favorite non-Terry Pratchett fiction book of the year was Ilium (which is discussed in another thread above). Why? Because I love my scifi served with a heaping infusion of classics + nanotech. It's not the greatest book of all time, but it was the most enjoyable published-in-2003 fiction of the year for me. Now if someone would just light a fire under George R.R. Martin...

    What Liberal Media? gets my nod for best nonfiction of the year, and easily so.

    The worst, with a bullet, was Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix. I haven't been so bored and enraged with a book since being forcefed Microserfs a ways back.

    Quicksilver was horrid and easily gets my vote for most disappointing book of the year. I like the rough cut pages, though.

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    Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Use GnuPG ferpetessake!
  230. Re:...Because Jordan wrote himself into a corner.. by LordLucless · · Score: 1

    1) The dark-one's prison must not be patched, it must be made whole again to the degree that it was never breached.

    Or the Dark One killed. The only point to having this story is if this is the end of the cycle. The Dark One threatened to "break the Wheel of Time" and to strangle people "with the corpse of the Great Serpent". If the powers of darkness can make a final end, why not the forces of light? And the novels never say that the bore has to be patched as if it were new, it says it must be patched tightly enough so the Dark One cannot escape.

    I mean seriously, the thirteen greatest mages (give or take) of the second age are unleashed on the third age with all of their lost knowledge of the "one power" and their access to the "true power" and the best thing they can come up with is sleeping their way into the bed/court of a queen?

    Don't forget that most of them, at least, don't have access to any angreal or sa'angreal. And that a circle of thirteen Aes Sedai can take any one of them down. And the fact that they're just as likely to nuke each other if one of them exposes themself. They're going to be cautious.

    The problem with the story isn't so much Jordan's dug himself into a hole, but either he doesn't know how to end the story, or he doesn't want to. Or, as some people think, his editors are being bastards.

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  231. Re:Robert "No closure" Jordan by manganese4 · · Score: 1

    Damm, I forget to bash microsoft or mention the RIAA just once and I get modded down as a troll. I best reread jihad site

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  232. Re:...Because Jordan wrote himself into a corner.. by IBitOBear · · Score: 1

    We know that the wheel of time is not/will not be broken because the past-tense nature of the narrative. (Consider the opening of each book, and the expression that each cycle shifts the outcome of each cycle just nudges the next cycle a little more to one side or the other. [all of this is established cannon.]) The dark one needs to break the wheel of time to escape back to the realm of the creator (or some such), and tries every round. To some extent the entrity of the purpose of the wheel is to imprision the dark one.

    Doesn't mean he actually can nor ever will. The *creator* couldn't kill the dark one, how could Rand.

    ===

    As for the other, they shoudl be able to *make* or *steal* the angreal and sa'angreal. Nobody alive should be competent to stand against them. Hell, the Black Aja could, and rightfully should given their access in the tower and their apparent numbers, plunder the place dry overnight. Since the one power and the true power are (essentially) invisible to one another there is NO EXCUSE for the forsaken to not have all the tools and power they want.

    That is why I feel these characters are so Sindely Wiplash. They don't just quash their enemies, they dont wield compulsion (except the one who makes sex-toys out of people) they don't really leverage traveling or gate-making even though they all clearly know how to do it.

    They just tie the damsel to the raliroad tracks and then ride away before the train is even in the neighborhood.

    It makes for intracately wroght but still incompetent villans. And badly executed villans just cannot maintian their apeal.

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    --"Code Complete" Microsoft Press
  233. Best analysis of LOTR ever! by ylikone · · Score: 0

    You've got it right on!

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    Meh.
  234. The elusive Fashion Geek by lysium · · Score: 1
    As a technical geek in the fashion ("apparel") industry, I can attest to the existence of Fashion Geeks. They are the other fashion designers, a curious breed that obsesses about clothing the way a tech geek obsesses about.....tech. Not buying clothes, mind you, but the very concept of clothing, and color, and constructing a garment out of abstract lines, colors, and fabrics.

    The Fasion Geek may appear expensively-dressed, decidedly bohemian, or outright eccentric. They express themselves through clothing, and a procifiency in this ability often fools larger society into thinking that they are not geeks -- even to the point where a Fashion Geek joins the BeautiPeople as a trendy designer. Demographically, Fashion Geeks are female, homosexual, or meterosexual (ugly term, regrettably apt). In this sense they are the yin to the yang of the Tech Geek.

    Fashion geeks are usually found in large clusters for socioeconomic reasons. As their profession is a specialized one, only large, sophisticated, wealthy, or artsy cities can support their existence.

    All in all a fascinating subspecies. It is a pleasure to work with them.

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  235. Difference between eagles and airplanes by astroboscope · · Score: 2, Funny

    You started off well, but wouldn't the eagle (try to) eat the rat?

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    If we were ants living on a Rubik's cube, differential geometry would be a little more confusing.
  236. Best writer in Australia by IronBlade · · Score: 1

    For a great overlap of flashy action movies and books, read Matthew Reilly's books. The latest one is "Scarecrow" and certainly matched his previous books in pace and action. I couldn't put it down until I finished it!

    Matthew, in my opinion, is the best novel writer in Australia.

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    http://dieoff.org/synopsis.htm
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  237. Best short fiction story of the year? by Bahumat · · Score: 1

    Tough call, but my four nominees are "Basement Magic" (Fantasy & Science Fiction, May) "The Hanging Curve" (Fantasy & Science Fiction, April), and "The Seasons of the Ansarac" (Fantasy & Science Fiction, February), and "The Navatar" (Fantasy & Science Fiction, Oct/Nov) Seeing a trend? I do have other subscriptions, honest. >.>

    Other runners-up are definetly "Mortal Engines" (Asimov's Science Fiction, December), and September's issue of Asimov's Science Fiction offers me a bounty of excellent stories: "Off on a Starship", "The Long Way Home", "Focus Group", "Big Ugly Mama And The Zk".

    Hell, I'm on a roll: Fantasy & Science Fiction's October/November issue featured "Like Minds", "Almost Home", and another especially treasured favorite, "The Navatar".

    My choice for best Novella of the year: "The Fluted Girl" (Fantasy & Science Fiction, June).

    I'm utterly unaffiliated with the magazine, just a particularly happy subscriber (to Asimov's, Analog, and Fantasy & Science Fiction), and I truly cannot understate how good the quality of these publications are to any literary fan, in particular Fantasy & Science Fiction.

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    "To pass through the jungle; silence, courtesy, ferocity, as the occasion demands." -- Kamau, "Proper Passage"
  238. It Must Be Beautiful by thelizman · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's actually a 2002 book, but I believe it's first US printing is 2003, so here goes: "It Must Be Beautiful, Great Equations of Modern Science". Edited by Graham Farmelo, this book is a collection of essays by 11 of todays best and brightest. The readings aren't dry at all, and science/mathematics buffs will be struck by how palatable this book is. For me, it drove home one thing I always knew to be factual, but never considered in philisophical terms, that formulae aren't just tools for calculations, they're expressions of ideas. That point is well made in chapter one when Einstein is compared to Planck, especially in that they both came up with the same E=hf formula, but applied to nearly unrelated areas of physics (cavity radiation vs quantum radiation). Then the point is further illustrated in talking about the Drake equation, a formula well blasted for its uselessness, but highly lauded for it's ability to provoke deep scientific discussion on topics from astrophysics to cosmology to sociology and philosophy.

    I'm about half way through this book right now, and I find myself going back to dwell on previous chapters I've already read. While I don't exactly have a hard-on for this book, it is interesting enough that I'd recommend it to anyone with a menial mathematics and physics background who is interested in a new insight into the mundane triviality of text-book errata.

  239. Re: Snow Crash by kubrick · · Score: 1

    It lacked polish and pacing. The plot had problems with maintaining tension or building to a climax. It was a lot of really neat scenes cobbled together. The ending was anti-climatic... when I got to the last page I wondered where the last chapter was. Not sure if the book needed to be twice as long (to flesh it out more), or if some parts shouldn't have been chopped to allow other sections to be fleshed out properly.

    No-one edits these days, I think. If writers don't have the natural skills to do it themselves (and Neal, for all his skills as a writer, hasn't shown much form in the editing of his own work) it doesn't seem to happen very much.

    Most of Neal's books (except maybe Zodiac, the book before Snow Crash) struggle with their pacing and seem to have their endings written in a hurry. His writing is very good though, on a paragraph-to-paragraph level -- plenty of detail while still being readable and amusing.

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  240. Fantasy/Adventure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I myself am an avid fantasy reader, and i have to say Terry Brooks is at the top of my favorite writers. He continues to put out book after book based on Shannara. The latest, "Jarka Ruus, (High Druid of Shannara, Book 1)" is just as suberb as Brook's previous works. If you're into fantasy adventure, I highly recommend all the shannara series'. But, thats just me. :P

  241. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by sawanv · · Score: 0

    I think the series went downhill from the first book. Its just too much description without any advace in the plot...

  242. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by sawanv · · Score: 0

    The song of ice and fire is great!!! highly reccommended..go right ahead.

  243. Best Book Ever by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    C++ programming. The ending is absolutely fabulous, it completely catches you by surprise. I don't want to spoil it.

    The sequel visual C++ programming features some nasty villains too. Oh the 3rd chapter's the best. I must have read it 20 times.

  244. Not all that much difference... by Rob+Simpson · · Score: 3, Funny
    Then just over their heads they saw a passing flash of color. There in the sky they saw a giant eagle, full-feathered and painted shocking pink. On its side were the words DEUS EX MACHINA AIRLINES in metallic gold.
    Frito yelped as the great bird swooped low and snatched them both from death with its rubberized talons.
    "Name's Gwahno," said the Eagle as they climbed sharply awy from the disintegrating land. "Find a seat."
    "But how -" began Frito.
    "Not now, mac," the bird snapped. "Gotta figure a flight plan outta this dump."

    - _Bored of the Rings_

    1. Re:Not all that much difference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, but that just isn't funny. Typical unfunny geek humour again.

  245. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by peachpuff · · Score: 1

    Gee, I thought it was really good. I haven't read all of the other books, but I could see the difference.

    It's not that the quality has gone down, it's just a different type of book. The main characters are (almost) all big shots now, so there's a different focus.

    I can see how someone might like the early books but not the more recent ones -- or the other way around -- but I kind of like both.

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  246. Angels & Demons - avoid it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Pseudo-science based thrillers require some suspension of disbelief, but Angels and Demons is so full of groan-inducing factoids, that you'd better assume it's set in alternate universe where science, logic, history (and the Italian language) are quite different from our own. Just to make some examples, you read that:
    • CERN people are expecially good at finding data on the 'net because they designed HTTP
    • supersonic hydrogen-fueled will render conventional airplanes obsolete in five years
    • the lifetime of a battery can be predicted with a precision of seconds
    • nobody has a clue on how to find a hidden wireless camera trasmitting the image of the time bomb (complete with led display counting down) set to explode at midnight -- talk about cliches!
  247. 1633 At top of list by Andrew1963 · · Score: 1

    I think 1633 by Eric flint and David Weber deserves to be at the top of this list.

  248. A Small Point by JustLikeToSay · · Score: 0

    I bought "Nanotechnology, the next big thing" (or some such) on the strength of the /. review. This was a mistake. Best book: The Quantum Universe - interesting on a technical level and gives me a superiority complex when I spot the chemistry mistakes.

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  249. Sports Geek by CavemanKiwi · · Score: 1

    I would say there is a large portion of sport geeks here in the UK. Although their main focus is Football. Just Look at the sales of a particular computer game Championship Manager here.

  250. of 70 books reviewed this year... by danny · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Six books I read this year made it onto my all-time best books list. Of course none of those were published this year, but my reading is rarely "cutting-edge".

    Danny.

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  251. best by kaens · · Score: 1

    i dont know if it was published in 03 or not but the redemption of althalus by david and leigh eddings was damn good.

  252. Like anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think it was actually written to sell marchandise.

  253. 1632 and 1633 by GnarlyNome · · Score: 1

    by Eric Flint looking foeward to "Ring of Fire"

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    Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice doggie" until you can find a rock. Will Rogers
  254. Dismantling The Da Vinci Code by Lady+Jazzica · · Score: 1

    An article pointing out the various factual errors in "The Da Vinci Code can be found here.

  255. Amazon's best of 2003 by marcel-jan.nl · · Score: 2, Informative

    Amazon has a best of 2003 booklist.

    All as may be, but I still have often problems selecting my next book to read. Even books appraised by awards of site aren't always up my alley. Because I'm a bit of a slow reader, I want to make sure that the book I select is good.

    Therefor I'd like to see a site for books like what allmusic.com does for music. (Allbooks.com brings you to Amazon.) Amazon is not exactly the same. It's ways to search for books are too limited.

    Also I would like to choose my next book to read a bit like I select a recipe to cook on some recipe sites: I want a recipe with ingredient A and B, what recipes do you got with those.

    Does any of this exist? (Maybe I should start such a site?)

  256. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by butt-rock+camaro · · Score: 1

    I found the Captain Crunch cereal eating elaboration pretty amusing myself; maybe the humor is lost if you haven't had it or whatever...

    But I'll agree with you that Ayn Rand sucks.

  257. Worst: "For Us, the Living" by Robert A. Heinlein by nani+popoki · · Score: 1

    I've read every word the Master wrote. But they should have left this one "lost". Not a novel; simply a lecture in economic theory. (With footnotes and an appendix!) But technically, I guess it's the worst book of 1939, so maybe I'm off topic. :)

  258. Re:Quicksilver? You are too kind! by Captain+Large+Face · · Score: 1

    I absolutely agree. I read Cryptonomicon on a friend's recommendation and found it interesting, and thought I'd give Quicksilver a go too. Since starting, I've put it down a number of times, and have actually read about 4 or 5 books whilst taking a break from it. There are some interesting bits in it, but for the most part I find it too dry.

  259. Re: Snow Crash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never have seen his endings as rushed. I've seen them as incomplete as are his beginnings. It all comes down to the fact that they seem to be written as if you'd jumped into the life of the characters and when the current crisis is over, you jump out.

    They never start before the beginning, only when the action relevant to the story begins and never go beyond what the plot which the book focuses. There is never a bunch of background of the characters that cannot be gained through the process of telling the story and there is never a "happily ever after" at the end.

    Think of them as documentaries. They start filming then they stop. The characters lived before and after, but unless the before was covered in the body of the film, we don't know much about their past and the future isn't covered at all.

  260. Agreed, China Mieville is totally awesome by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    This year's The Scar should have won the Hugo. Unfortunately, my fellow Torontonians decided to give it to the latest craptacularity from our resident wannabe Robert Sawyer. Bah.

    The Scar is an awesome standalone novel/travelogue that's brutally honest and spectacularly imaginitive in its fantasy. No elves here indeed.:)

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  261. Re:The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttim by mdmarkus · · Score: 1

    THANKS! Heard him interviewed on the radio, but didn't have the title or author's name. It sounded fascinating, but not enough to walk into the book store to ask ab't "a book about some guy w' something like autism".

  262. Supersecret upcoming end to Wheel of Time by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    Psst, buddy, do you want to know how Robert Jordan will end Wheel of Time?

    Spoiler space.

    Hey, don't spoil it for yourself.

    Wade through another 20 volumes.

    The Lone Gunpeople are dead.

    Rosebud is a kind of flower.

    At the end of "Worst Episode Ever", Homer Simpson is accosted by a race of subterranean elven horse jockeys.

    At the end of LotR, Sauron is defeated.

    There are Ewoks in Return of the Jedi.

    USS Voyager returns to Earth in the final two-parter.

    Spoiler space.

    Wheel of Time, all n volumes of it, has been a dream of one of the minor characters. The end.;)

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  263. Dude, Where's My Country by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    I borrowed a copy of Dude, Where's My Country from a friend for reading. Meh. It's basically what Scott Adams would sound like if he wrote about politics, except that Michael Moore has a higher reliance on facts.

    Interesting reading, but definitely rather lowbrow. Bah.

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  264. Re:Am I the only one that hates Stephenson's style by jdray · · Score: 1

    I only ever read SnowCrash, and, althouth I liked it very well, haven't been able to get interested in any of the other story lines by reading the blurb on the back of the books. My friends recommend them, but when they describe them, they don't interest me.

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  265. I dislike it by LPetrazickis · · Score: 1

    I think this Penny Arcade cartoon sums up my feelings about Brian Herbert's enterprise very succinctly.;)

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  266. The worst? by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Treason", by Ann Coulter. That guy has issues. And breasts.

    - A.P.

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    "Remember when the U.S. had a drug problem, and then we declared a War On Drugs, and now you can't buy drugs anymore?"
  267. /. religion... by magfrump · · Score: 1

    yes, you can see the true nature of slashdot.
    as geeks, the original social outcasts, there is a prominent tendency to rebel against the societal, political, and religious "right". As Christianity is the religious 'right,' it will be made fun of, whereas Judaeism, as a 'more liberal' religion, is respected. This functions in basically the same way that windows-dissing fucntions--I'd be willing to bet that half of the /. users use a windows system of some sort--I personally use windows 98--at least for compatability issues, but any of them would willingly and readily make fun of the bugs of windows. In both cases it's partially pointing out the obvious and inherent flaws, but partially being rebellious and hypocritical.

    btw, if one notices how the ring managed to get found by gollum, one can probably assume that the string would break and the rat would fall, or the eagle would eat the rat or something--the hobbits had to carry the ring because they had willpower, and in small number so that they weren't seen.

    1. Re:/. religion... by TwistedSquare · · Score: 1

      Judaeism more liberal? Not if you read the testaments... Also I would have said stereotypical geeks are more likely to be right-wing because of a lack of empathy. Not meaning to pick holes or anything!

    2. Re:/. religion... by quasarkitten · · Score: 1

      THEY ARE ALL WORTHLESS TOO ME

    3. Re:/. religion... by magfrump · · Score: 1

      More liberal in being more accepting of other religions--I have many Jewish friends, none of whom have ever tried to force Judaeism upon me, whereas Christianity always hails itself as the "One, true" religion.
      I would say generally geeks would really have a tendency to be Liberatarion Conservatives--conserned more with their own personal freedom than markedly liberal or conservative, however all of my geek friends and I are liberal, especially in terms of religions, because buddhism, taoism, and discordianism don't punish you for being stupid occasionally, "sinning", or sitting at a computer drinking soda all day ^_^

      it occurs to me that this really should be in a different place than favorite books...

  268. Isaac Adamson by Tetsujin28 · · Score: 1

    Absolute agreement on Adamson. Not weighty stuff, perhaps, but damn fine reads. And his third, Pachinco Dreaming, is the best so far -- and is indeed a bit weightier than the others.

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  269. "Quicksilver" as worst... by freeBill · · Score: 1

    ...is much easier for me to understand than "Quicksilver" as best.

    First of all, let me say that any impartial observer would predict that I would like Stephenson's latest book a lot: I am a big Neal Stephenson fan. I loved "Cryptonomicon" (which shares the "Quicksilver" tendency toward digression -- heck it even shares a character). My degree is in the philosophy of science, and that's really what "Quicksilver" is about. (I even have had a long-time interest in the conflict between Leibniz and Newton, which is the lens through which Stephenson looks at the philosophy of science in this book.) I have an interest in military history and have been reading a lot lately about The 30 Years War (which figures at least tangentially in the book).

    Despite all these reasons I would be expected to enjoy "Quicksilver," I didn't like it much. You will probably like it less. I found myself gaining some insights from it (particularly on the English-Civil-War side of things), but I read it more like I might read a dull textbook on something I needed to know than as a gripping tale.

    Looking at what's wrong with the book:

    First of all, it's really not one really long book. It's really three fairly long books: "Quicksilver," "The Prince of Vagabonds" (or maybe it's "The King of Vagabonds") and "Odalesque." I have no idea why the publisher chose to present it as one book instead of as a trilogy (except perhaps that only the middle book would have any chance of being accepted by readers). If you're having trouble wading through the first part, skip to the second book ("The Prince of Vagabonds" really can stand on its own.)

    Looking at the "Quicksilver" part: Stephenson seems to have realized his account of Newton and the Royal Society is not a rousing enough tale to make a novel. So he has intercut that account with an action-filled story about a crafty Dutch captain outfoxing Blackbeard in a sea battle. The pirate battle has almost nothing to do with the rest of the story (in fact, it takes place long after the events in the "Odalesque" part of the trilogy). If this book had been published separately, I would suggest readers interested in Newton read that part and everybody else read the Blackbeard part (if I suggested reading it all).

    Looking at the "Prince of Vagabonds" part: As I suggested earlier, this was my favorite part. The only problem is that it has almost nothing to do with the main subject of the book (the Newton-Leibniz conflict). Some people may have difficulty believing in the "glorious stupidity" of the main character, but I know a guy who is just like Half-Cocked Jack so it was no problem for me.

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  270. Wrestlecrap: The very worst of pro wrestling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Best book I've read in a while that isn't from
    O'Reilly. Basically the book is about some of the
    really dumb ideas that have found their way into
    pro wrestling. Guess if you like pro wrestling you'll
    like the book. If you don't watch it, you probably will
    have no idea what the book is talking about most of the time.

    The www site the
    book is taken from

  271. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Pestilenc · · Score: 1

    I realize this is slightly off-topic, but stay with me.

    I agree, WOT has fallen considerably in my mind as of late; especially book 10. I've been getting the feeling with the later WOT books that the story is moving sideways, instead of forwards. He's introducing so many new things that the story has come to a standstill. Book 10 can be explained in about a paragraph, really only two things happened. Its getting to the point that I'm not going to rush out and buy book 11 in fancy hardcover when it comes out.

    Admittedly though, I feel the same about the Sword of Truth series, but in its case, I haven't lost interest in the story. Its a bit cheesy, but full of violence, torture, sex, magic, epic wars and struggles; in short, a good-ole fashioned fantasty romp. I felt Pillars of Creation was a bit of a unwanted diversion, but Naked Empire has restored my faith in a series I almost feel guilty for loving.

    However, that's not why I write. I simply have to bring this next series to everyone's attention. The Malazan Book of the Fallen series and another link when the first one is /.'ed, by Steven Erikson (book 1: Gardens of the Moon). Its intelligent, well-writen, compelling. He builds a world with great characters and I cannot get enough of it. There are four books out now and a fifth due in late spring. I read somewhere that his series has not been picked up by any US publisher. Well its everywhere in Canada, and shipping is cheap.

    Song of Ice and Fire is incredible (Btw, check out the free except to book 4)and I give Geore R.R. Martin all my respect, but in my world, Song of Ice and Fire and the Malazan series stand together on the podium.

    If you love fantasy, get Gardens of the Moon; its that simple.

    Pest

  272. Dancing Barefoot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wil Wheaton's foray into the published world has been quite a success, with O'Reilleys picking it up for mass distribution shortly next month.

    I really want a copy of this. Who else would? :)

  273. Here's your apology by layingMantis · · Score: 2, Informative

    my God but you are an arrogant, self-righteous, hypocritical little prick. The guy's original comment was perfectly valid and you presume to take it and figure out his life view? Logical inconsistency?? That's the funniest shit I've heard in a while. I have a feeling rational argument with you isn't even possible, and I'd end up just kicking your dumb ass. Oh and your .sig is lame too. cheers,

    ~mantis

  274. My book Favorites for 2003 by czephyr · · Score: 0

    1. William Gibson's Pattern recognition. Hey folks, don't forget who invented the word "Cyberspace". No kiddies it was'nt Al Gore.

    2. Stephen King's "the Wolves of the Calla". Long but if you like King, the story goes on in scary style.

    3. Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix.

    I thought i would put my 3 cents in. I read at least 1 book a week even while working so those are the ones that came to mind first.

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  275. Re:Crossroads of Twilight (Wheel of Time) sucked.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's because "New Spring" was already written as a short story, and it was well recieved by the fans. If he can recapture some of the magic of his first WoT books, people that haven't bought the last 2 or 3 books might by the next book in the series.

  276. Books are more mature than movies by solprovider · · Score: 1

    Writing is a much more mature art than video, or even recorded music. If you were alive when the technology was transitioning from clay tablets to scrolls to hand-written to print, you would have noticed the change. There have not been very many consumer-noticable changes in books since the printing press became popular. (Well, the art of binding keeps improving, and paperbacks are rather new.)

    Video (also called motion pictures or movies) is much younger. Recently, StarWars revolutionized special effects, and Matrix and LOTR are still pushing forward. Until technological progress slows down, consumers will be able to date movies by their production quality.

    Same with music: You can usually tell the decade that music was recorded by the quality of production. Every decade brings great improvements in compression and noise reduction. The only time this was not obvious was the 1990s, because popular music did not require any clarity, and the popular format was the CompactDisc, which uses a digital format at a resolution well inside the most people's perception. Clarity may return once bandwidth is better and the popular format (MP3s?) are recorded at decent resolutions.

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  277. The daVinci Code by herrvinny · · Score: 1

    is an excellent book. Couldn't put it down.

  278. Not really new, but that didn't stop anyone else by gimpyben · · Score: 1

    This year was kind of hectic, so most of my reading was confined to EVO magazine and text-books. I did get a chance to read some books though. The Rum Diaries, by Hunter S. Thompson was definitely an enjoyable read, some nice escapism, with enjoyable, slightly-debauched characters. Middle East Illusions, by Noam Chomsky was also quite interesting. Obviously people probably know where they stand on this one, but his critique of US foreign policy towards Israel and his suggestions at the motivations behind it are quite interesting, whether you agree or not.

  279. Re: Snow Crash by kubrick · · Score: 1

    I never have seen his endings as rushed. I've seen them as incomplete as are his beginnings.

    Well... often his prose is nowhere near as descriptive; i.e. a lot more happens (in terms of plot advancement) within 50 pages towards the end of a book compared to 50 pages near the start. You could argue for differences in tone here, but it does read like he's getting a little sick of the work and isn't giving it the same level of development he did when he was more enthusiastic about the project. (Zodiac being an exception here, as I think it was more strongly plotted and balanced in prose than anything else I've read of his; Diamond Age and Snow Crash are particularly bad examples of the problem under discussion. Haven't yet finished Quicksilver, so I can't speak on that yet.)

    If he's going to use the narrative form, it's probably a good idea to stick to its structure (i.e. beginning, middle and end), given that he's not really breaking any of the other narrative conventions (strongly identifiable narrator(s), etc.) The ends of his books aren't deliberately incomplete, they're partially plotted and incompletely fleshed out; whether that's because he's rushed or interrupted during writing, or just too slack to finish in time (a la Douglas Adams), is something I can't really know without talking to all concerned.

    BTW: My phrasing looks a little odd to me, but it's 3am here and I can't really work out why. Submitting as is. :)

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  280. Re:Pratchett is always good (Nightwatch) by wwi · · Score: 1

    Nightwatch was very satisfying for me. I've read some negative reviews on the web, etc, and maybe expected less-than-good, but instead was very happy with the book.

    This book requires having read SOME of the previous watch books, to get the feel for the characters and world. In a way, this is a kind of parody of the already-parody diskworld, the characters and events turning into themselves. The richness and depth is great, as I said, satisfying like a fine meal.

    Terry creates a great character with Vimes, and he is maturing and getting better with each new book, IMHO.

    BTW, anyone share my enjoyment of re-reading Pratchett books? I find that revisiting the books from time to time is very rewarding. Not all authors can be re-read successfully. (of course LOTR is great for re-reading, too).

  281. Absolute OpenBSD by nuintari · · Score: 1

    I'm a bit late to this discussion, but I don't see it, so its worth a mention. Absolute OpenBSD is an excellent read for beginers and intermediates to the system, and a handy reference to everyone. Not a super great read, but certainely worth looking at.

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    slashdot : where an opinion can be wrong.

  282. Re:The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttim by Freaek · · Score: 1

    yes!

    I read this book on a trip to auckland recently, found it most excellente.

    Nice choice :)