Yeah, and you and your tiny minority can go play other games while the rest of us millions have fun. But let's be honest, you are going to end up buying them anyways. Even if Starcraft was just a graphical update (which it isn't), it would be fun to play a modern version. Blizzard makes quality/polished games. Either you like them or you have bad taste (or you liked bnetd).
Oh geez. I don't approve of shoving other people's morales down others throat. That goes both ways...making people only be exposed to "appropriate" things or telling people that they should expose their kids for survival state. Yeah, older cultures had to introduce their kids to harsher stuff early. Why? Because their lives sucked and the kids had to grow up faster. We have the luxury of allowing our kids to be kids and not have to deal with all the pain of being an adult until later in life. It isn't "wussification". Times are different. We aren't wusses. We just realize that a lot of things in this world suck, and there is no reason to force our kids to have to deal with those things so they can be "real men" or something.
I don't even know why you are complaining about "wussification". I mean, you are posting on Slashdot. I think real men are off killing dear with knives and forcing their kids to play violent video games.
They shouldn't have punished the guy. They should have fired him. They should have also banned all the players involved. They should have also taken a huge chunk out of Bob's coffers. They really said "Don't cheat, or you might get a light slap on the wrist"
You are obviously not a programmer. Just the UI alone is going to be a huge number of lines of code, just because they made it so modable. Let's just take the effects of food for example. Eating food can make you huge, make you tiny, turn you in to a skeleton/whelp/etc, make you spit fire, make you vomit, make you shoot fireworks, and even make you drunk (blurring your screen, making you unable to run in a straight line, and effecting the text you type). That alone would be many many lines of code. The core game mechanics, net code, server distribution code, database code is going to be easily millions of lines of code.
I know Slashdot likes to bash WoW. But bash it about the grind, the addictiveness, the boringness or something legitimate. WoW probably has more lines of code than almost any application in existence. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Oops, turned out I was right. They just announced H1NI is no more deadly that the regular flu. Way to panic everyone for no reason (directed at WHO and the media).
That is some strange logic there. Maybe we should cut NFL players salaries. Right now so many kids want to play pro-football the NFL is just full of people without talent.
Yes, I am going to take advice on education from some one who thinks killing people is how you promote peace. Brilliant.
If anything, we need more money in education. I went through public education and now have a Masters in C.S. with a well paying, stable job. I am so angry at those liberals for giving a good quality of life and making me a productive member of society! I really don't understand the hatred towards educated, open-minded people.
This do anything as long as it gets results is the exact reason this country is so screwed up. I hope that there is karma beyond Slashdot, and that you suffer for the illegal things you have done to destroy other people's lives. You disgust me.
No, open-mindedness can exist on either the left or the right. Everyone has a bias on every topic unless they are completely ignorant about it. So does that mean no one is open-minded since they have a bias? Obviously this isn't true.
In my experience, liberal types do tend to be more open minded (of course, there are plenty of close minded ones as well). The reason I believe this is that many conservatives are extremely religious. They are close minded to other ideas because they believe the Bible is the true word of God. They are not open to ideas that run counter to the Bible because their soul is on the line.
I also see this tendency in talk radio. Take Rush Limbaugh vs. Ed Schultz. Rush is horribly divisive, close-minded, offensive, and actually holds a lot of sway over the GOP. Ed, on the other hand, actually let's people with counter opinions talk, will read the studies that others suggest, and actually engage in an intellectual conversation.
So to say all conservatives are close minded is 100% wrong. But it does seem that liberals overall tend to be more open minded and accepting of other people and ideas(i.e. gays, minorities, science, education, etc.).
The right have done a good job as making liberal a dirty word. So basically as soon as you say the word liberal it already causes all rational discussion to go out the window. I guess to a certain extent that is true of the word conservative as well.
Uh huh, right. Have they allowed you to change your skills from a website yet? Have they allowed you to queue multiple skills yet? Really, they have to do whatever they can to keep customers. They only have what...60k active subscribers? And they do plenty to piss off the players by either catering to the casuals, catering to the hardcore, helping players cheat, etc. And how many Eve players are actually just bots doing tedious tasks like mining?
Um, they are working on Starcraft 2. They have always taken forever to release a game...polishing it like crazy. As far as the ghost thing went, that wasn't their fault. The other company working on it screwed it up massively. By the time it came back to Blizzard, the whole thing was scrapped because it was so dated being developed for the last gen consoles. I think your assumption that they only care about WoW is off. They just take a long time perfecting their games.
And how does that help the people the numbers are supposed to serve. If 6 isn't fatal, why are we scaring the crap out of people? The numbers are stupid and they are doing a poor job of informing people that actual risks.
How does people still playing EQ counter my point? The numbers are insignificant and WoW has blown them away and kept people playing despite LotR, Conan, Warhammer, EQ2, etc etc.
The PvE quest content getting to 80 was the best that Blizzard has put out to date. The raiding was weak, but Ulduar has helped that.
I agree that WoW has been weak on PvP...they tried to do something about that with WG...but that is mainly a lag fest. But WoW was never really designed around PvP and I really don't care since any MMORPG sucks with PvP. Rather play CS or TF2.
Flu season kills more than this strain will. Why isn't there a pandemic panic when we get the flu every year? This all seems so overblown to me. If this is a 5 on the scale that goes to 6, how is it that the regular flu doesn't push us to 6 with the number it kills. All these travel restrictions when you are more likely to be killed in any number of ways. The media is out of control on this one.
Oh lord, grow up. The whole piracy isn't thievery thing has reached stupid levels on here. People are not paying for something that people spent a lot of time and effort on. It is a form of thievery that has been legally defined as copyright infringement.
They actually did "loose" money since the pirated copies forced them to work overtime upgrading their online service and caused a degradation in performance to their customers.
What the hell studies are you talking about? Studies written by people with your immature frame of mind? Studies written by people who don't actually write and sell software? Give me a break.
There are plenty of ways you can find out about a game without using piracy. You can read reviews by a reviewer that likes games you like. You can look at sales. You can look at how it is rated on various sites. You can ask your friends. But you choose to rationalize your illegal activities instead. Pathetic.
Eh, that argument fails. Everyone speeds at some point in their life or does some other minor illegal thing. I think the guy has a good point. If you bought a legal copy of the game and they do something that is unfair, you do have an option. I view it as the only legitimate thing that the people that crack these games provide.
The guy lays out a logical/rational argument and you just zip right past his point because either you didn't actually read or didn't understand. Whining about DRM in general is just a good way to be ignored. Talking about what is reasonable from a company (CD key/authenticated online play) and unreasonable (install limits, rootkits, etc) can actually be productive for both the companies and the consumer. But this immature Slashdot stance that all DRM in any form is bad isn't based on reason. It is either a justification for not paying people for their work or zealotry.
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I think losing your job would be punishment enough in this case.
Wow, if only there was Score: -1, Wrong.
Yeah, and you and your tiny minority can go play other games while the rest of us millions have fun. But let's be honest, you are going to end up buying them anyways. Even if Starcraft was just a graphical update (which it isn't), it would be fun to play a modern version. Blizzard makes quality/polished games. Either you like them or you have bad taste (or you liked bnetd).
I think your dial must be stuck on Rush Limbaugh and Fox News. Should get that fixed.
Oh geez. I don't approve of shoving other people's morales down others throat. That goes both ways...making people only be exposed to "appropriate" things or telling people that they should expose their kids for survival state. Yeah, older cultures had to introduce their kids to harsher stuff early. Why? Because their lives sucked and the kids had to grow up faster. We have the luxury of allowing our kids to be kids and not have to deal with all the pain of being an adult until later in life. It isn't "wussification". Times are different. We aren't wusses. We just realize that a lot of things in this world suck, and there is no reason to force our kids to have to deal with those things so they can be "real men" or something.
I don't even know why you are complaining about "wussification". I mean, you are posting on Slashdot. I think real men are off killing dear with knives and forcing their kids to play violent video games.
No, when Nintendo does it, it is good. They are the ones that started it! (now I wait on someone to bring up atari or something like that)
If it really worked, did they actually implement something that allows you to queue two skills yet?
They shouldn't have punished the guy. They should have fired him. They should have also banned all the players involved. They should have also taken a huge chunk out of Bob's coffers. They really said "Don't cheat, or you might get a light slap on the wrist"
You are obviously not a programmer. Just the UI alone is going to be a huge number of lines of code, just because they made it so modable. Let's just take the effects of food for example. Eating food can make you huge, make you tiny, turn you in to a skeleton/whelp/etc, make you spit fire, make you vomit, make you shoot fireworks, and even make you drunk (blurring your screen, making you unable to run in a straight line, and effecting the text you type). That alone would be many many lines of code. The core game mechanics, net code, server distribution code, database code is going to be easily millions of lines of code.
I know Slashdot likes to bash WoW. But bash it about the grind, the addictiveness, the boringness or something legitimate. WoW probably has more lines of code than almost any application in existence. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
So it will be twice expensive as a PS3 and have 1/8th of the game library? (kidding!)
But what happens when civilization attacks the barbarians? Our violence should be ready for defending our country, not for regime building.
Oops, turned out I was right. They just announced H1NI is no more deadly that the regular flu. Way to panic everyone for no reason (directed at WHO and the media).
That is some strange logic there. Maybe we should cut NFL players salaries. Right now so many kids want to play pro-football the NFL is just full of people without talent.
Yes, I am going to take advice on education from some one who thinks killing people is how you promote peace. Brilliant.
If anything, we need more money in education. I went through public education and now have a Masters in C.S. with a well paying, stable job. I am so angry at those liberals for giving a good quality of life and making me a productive member of society! I really don't understand the hatred towards educated, open-minded people.
This do anything as long as it gets results is the exact reason this country is so screwed up. I hope that there is karma beyond Slashdot, and that you suffer for the illegal things you have done to destroy other people's lives. You disgust me.
No, open-mindedness can exist on either the left or the right. Everyone has a bias on every topic unless they are completely ignorant about it. So does that mean no one is open-minded since they have a bias? Obviously this isn't true.
In my experience, liberal types do tend to be more open minded (of course, there are plenty of close minded ones as well). The reason I believe this is that many conservatives are extremely religious. They are close minded to other ideas because they believe the Bible is the true word of God. They are not open to ideas that run counter to the Bible because their soul is on the line.
I also see this tendency in talk radio. Take Rush Limbaugh vs. Ed Schultz. Rush is horribly divisive, close-minded, offensive, and actually holds a lot of sway over the GOP. Ed, on the other hand, actually let's people with counter opinions talk, will read the studies that others suggest, and actually engage in an intellectual conversation.
So to say all conservatives are close minded is 100% wrong. But it does seem that liberals overall tend to be more open minded and accepting of other people and ideas(i.e. gays, minorities, science, education, etc.).
The right have done a good job as making liberal a dirty word. So basically as soon as you say the word liberal it already causes all rational discussion to go out the window. I guess to a certain extent that is true of the word conservative as well.
Uh huh, right. Have they allowed you to change your skills from a website yet? Have they allowed you to queue multiple skills yet? Really, they have to do whatever they can to keep customers. They only have what...60k active subscribers? And they do plenty to piss off the players by either catering to the casuals, catering to the hardcore, helping players cheat, etc. And how many Eve players are actually just bots doing tedious tasks like mining?
Being goth is still relevant? Kind of a stupid statement since it is a game that has had continual development over those years.
Um, they are working on Starcraft 2. They have always taken forever to release a game...polishing it like crazy. As far as the ghost thing went, that wasn't their fault. The other company working on it screwed it up massively. By the time it came back to Blizzard, the whole thing was scrapped because it was so dated being developed for the last gen consoles. I think your assumption that they only care about WoW is off. They just take a long time perfecting their games.
And how does that help the people the numbers are supposed to serve. If 6 isn't fatal, why are we scaring the crap out of people? The numbers are stupid and they are doing a poor job of informing people that actual risks.
How does people still playing EQ counter my point? The numbers are insignificant and WoW has blown them away and kept people playing despite LotR, Conan, Warhammer, EQ2, etc etc.
The PvE quest content getting to 80 was the best that Blizzard has put out to date. The raiding was weak, but Ulduar has helped that.
I agree that WoW has been weak on PvP...they tried to do something about that with WG...but that is mainly a lag fest. But WoW was never really designed around PvP and I really don't care since any MMORPG sucks with PvP. Rather play CS or TF2.
Flu season kills more than this strain will. Why isn't there a pandemic panic when we get the flu every year? This all seems so overblown to me. If this is a 5 on the scale that goes to 6, how is it that the regular flu doesn't push us to 6 with the number it kills. All these travel restrictions when you are more likely to be killed in any number of ways. The media is out of control on this one.
Oh lord, grow up. The whole piracy isn't thievery thing has reached stupid levels on here. People are not paying for something that people spent a lot of time and effort on. It is a form of thievery that has been legally defined as copyright infringement.
They actually did "loose" money since the pirated copies forced them to work overtime upgrading their online service and caused a degradation in performance to their customers.
What the hell studies are you talking about? Studies written by people with your immature frame of mind? Studies written by people who don't actually write and sell software? Give me a break.
There are plenty of ways you can find out about a game without using piracy. You can read reviews by a reviewer that likes games you like. You can look at sales. You can look at how it is rated on various sites. You can ask your friends. But you choose to rationalize your illegal activities instead. Pathetic.
Eh, that argument fails. Everyone speeds at some point in their life or does some other minor illegal thing. I think the guy has a good point. If you bought a legal copy of the game and they do something that is unfair, you do have an option. I view it as the only legitimate thing that the people that crack these games provide.
The guy lays out a logical/rational argument and you just zip right past his point because either you didn't actually read or didn't understand. Whining about DRM in general is just a good way to be ignored. Talking about what is reasonable from a company (CD key/authenticated online play) and unreasonable (install limits, rootkits, etc) can actually be productive for both the companies and the consumer. But this immature Slashdot stance that all DRM in any form is bad isn't based on reason. It is either a justification for not paying people for their work or zealotry.