Yahoo is under no obligation to anyone besides their own pockets to disallow Trillian's user of their networks.
Apple has responsibilities, sure to their own pockets, but also to the record companies who have signed with them who expect that the music is safe. They can't take cracks of their DRM lightly.
If Real wanted to sells songs without DRM (which no record company would allow them to do), they would certainly be playable on the iPod. Or maybe they could make their own MP3 player that is superior and lock that to their store.
Real didn't get the agreement they wanted, so they worked around it. Now that Apple has released this firmware, do you think Real is going to apologize to their customers and accepting blame for having illegally piggy-backed onto Apple's DRM in the first place?
No, they're going to blame Apple for this. That makes so much sense it's mind-blowing.
Because Real ILLEGALLY cracked Apple's DRM? That seems reason enough for me.
What are they going to tell their customers? "Hey, uh, we did this illegal thing to try to make something happen that nobody would agree to... and now it doesn't work. Uh, sorry." No, they're going to blame Apple for doing what we all said they were going to do to begin with. This is sour grapes on Real's part; now they can poison their customers against Apple by claiming this is Apple's fault. If they hadn't been doing illegal things in the first place, this update wouldn't matter.
If this wasn't a large corporation doing this, do you honestly think that the DMCA wouldn't be brought in?
What makes you think that Apple wants to benefit from open architectures and open source?
What's hypocritical about this is that Real wants to violate Apple's DRM to provide more choice for their customers, except I can't actually exercise that choice because I have a Mac and can't use their store. That certainly makes a lot of sense.
Hey, here's this neat thing but since everyone else has it, I'm not going to try it and see if it really is as neat as it seems. Because I'm different.
It's a freaking music player. Try it, don't try it, but letting its popularity affect your decision is just stupid.
Nearly everyone over the age of 10 can ride a bike at speeds that are utterly unsafe for sidewalks. If you are on a sidewalk, you should be walking. Period.
Competition for space on sidewalks will continue to be an issue while there is a perception that riding anything (including bicycles) in the streets in urban areas is dangerous.
Whose perception? I ride my bicycle in the streets in an urban area because that is the only place that bikes belong. Bikes do not belong on the sidewalk, period. (I will make exceptions for kids under a certain age, but anyone old enough to be riding by themselves should be riding in the street like the vehicle they are.)
You think W is proud that the godhatesfags.com guy is for him?
Do you honestly think it upsets him? Are people who would normally support him not going to support him because Fred Phelps is? Or are all those people going to support him anyway, PLUS all the wackjobs who pay attention to Phelps?
I can't see that he'd have a problem with it. Cheney, on the other hand...
I agree that it is a possible mistake to make a hybrid when it did one thing better than any others, but I imagine what it would be like for me to be able to, for example, go to my sister's wedding and take a bunch of pictures and then download them to the iPod with the Belkin media reader and then show them at the reception on a television, or the next morning. I wouldn't have to lug a laptop around to do it.
Sure, showing pictures off with a microscope sucks, but having video out to show them on a television is very very cool and useful.
For whatever it's worth, I live in Pittsburgh too and I don't own a car and I commute and travel full-time on my bicycle. My housemates have cars and my boyfriend has a car and I sometimes take advantage of that, but in general I ride my bike everywhere.
My next step is to get panniers so I don't have to depend on others for grocery trips and things of that nature. That, and winter weather gear; I can't wait for snow.
I appreciate that you want to pass me safely, I really do.
That said, think of me like a slow-moving vehicle. Think of me like a street cleaner. Or a garbage truck. Something that is going under the speed limit that takes a minute or two of your time and then is gone.
Also keep in mind the idea that hugging the curb may mean hugging the line of parked cars, and I don't know about you, but the thought of getting doored (having someone open their car door into my path) is not very pleasant. I try to leave a couple of feet between me and parked cars when I can, and am very aware of what cars have people in them and what don't.
"Tell Apple [tinyurl.com] to let you browse iTunes by any criteria like on the iPod."
I've been thinking about this for a couple of days. What on earth are you talking about? You CAN browse iTunes by any criteria? Or do you mean by Composer as well? Because you can browse by Artist, Genre and Album already.
Read above what? These are two US companies. I don't understand the problem.
Yahoo is under no obligation to anyone besides their own pockets to disallow Trillian's user of their networks.
Apple has responsibilities, sure to their own pockets, but also to the record companies who have signed with them who expect that the music is safe. They can't take cracks of their DRM lightly.
If Real wanted to sells songs without DRM (which no record company would allow them to do), they would certainly be playable on the iPod. Or maybe they could make their own MP3 player that is superior and lock that to their store.
What iPods don't work with "new music"? And what is this "new music" you're talking about?
I have a first gen 5GB iPod and it works fine with the music I have purchased as well as that which I have ripped from my CDs.
Real didn't get the agreement they wanted, so they worked around it. Now that Apple has released this firmware, do you think Real is going to apologize to their customers and accepting blame for having illegally piggy-backed onto Apple's DRM in the first place?
No, they're going to blame Apple for this. That makes so much sense it's mind-blowing.
Because Real ILLEGALLY cracked Apple's DRM? That seems reason enough for me.
What are they going to tell their customers? "Hey, uh, we did this illegal thing to try to make something happen that nobody would agree to... and now it doesn't work. Uh, sorry." No, they're going to blame Apple for doing what we all said they were going to do to begin with. This is sour grapes on Real's part; now they can poison their customers against Apple by claiming this is Apple's fault. If they hadn't been doing illegal things in the first place, this update wouldn't matter.
If this wasn't a large corporation doing this, do you honestly think that the DMCA wouldn't be brought in?
What makes you think that Apple wants to benefit from open architectures and open source?
What's hypocritical about this is that Real wants to violate Apple's DRM to provide more choice for their customers, except I can't actually exercise that choice because I have a Mac and can't use their store. That certainly makes a lot of sense.
If you choose to talk on your cell phone while driving, you affect me because you might hit me and kill me.
If you choose to talk on your cell phone while on a plane, I might be annoyed but that doesn't mean you're actually hurting me.
Huge difference.
As opposed to those Americans who don't know an apostrophe from a plural?
This argument is about six times funnier if you're only reading your side, KFG.
Just thought I'd share.
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You are so right. Nobody actually uses it to listen to music or thinks that it's any different from any other music player.
I'm so glad I asked you.
Man, I hate that attitude.
Hey, here's this neat thing but since everyone else has it, I'm not going to try it and see if it really is as neat as it seems. Because I'm different.
It's a freaking music player. Try it, don't try it, but letting its popularity affect your decision is just stupid.
Nearly everyone over the age of 10 can ride a bike at speeds that are utterly unsafe for sidewalks. If you are on a sidewalk, you should be walking. Period.
Competition for space on sidewalks will continue to be an issue while there is a perception that riding anything (including bicycles) in the streets in urban areas is dangerous.
Whose perception? I ride my bicycle in the streets in an urban area because that is the only place that bikes belong. Bikes do not belong on the sidewalk, period. (I will make exceptions for kids under a certain age, but anyone old enough to be riding by themselves should be riding in the street like the vehicle they are.)
It isn't. Sproul & Associates are lying about who they are. They are saying they are America Votes but they aren't.
From the site:
Van Hollen did not oppose Sadam paying suicide bomber families $25,000 for murdering innocent citizens in Israel
What a sleazy fucking guy. Floyd, I mean. Ugh.
It makes me sadder that there are people who will believe these things.
You think W is proud that the godhatesfags.com guy is for him?
Do you honestly think it upsets him? Are people who would normally support him not going to support him because Fred Phelps is? Or are all those people going to support him anyway, PLUS all the wackjobs who pay attention to Phelps?
I can't see that he'd have a problem with it. Cheney, on the other hand...
They damaged your memory during a logic board repair? Ahh, that's why you remove all extra RAM when you're sending something in. I do, at least.
I'd rather they put in a minimum of RAM and let me buy it myself from 3rd party vendors than charge me even more inflated prices.
aside from the UI
What else is there? If I am going to be using something with the same regularity as I use my iPod, I want it to be easy to navigate and use.
I know, price price price. I dunno, I just think UI is important.
I agree that it is a possible mistake to make a hybrid when it did one thing better than any others, but I imagine what it would be like for me to be able to, for example, go to my sister's wedding and take a bunch of pictures and then download them to the iPod with the Belkin media reader and then show them at the reception on a television, or the next morning. I wouldn't have to lug a laptop around to do it.
Sure, showing pictures off with a microscope sucks, but having video out to show them on a television is very very cool and useful.
For whatever it's worth, I live in Pittsburgh too and I don't own a car and I commute and travel full-time on my bicycle. My housemates have cars and my boyfriend has a car and I sometimes take advantage of that, but in general I ride my bike everywhere.
My next step is to get panniers so I don't have to depend on others for grocery trips and things of that nature. That, and winter weather gear; I can't wait for snow.
I appreciate that you want to pass me safely, I really do.
That said, think of me like a slow-moving vehicle. Think of me like a street cleaner. Or a garbage truck. Something that is going under the speed limit that takes a minute or two of your time and then is gone.
Also keep in mind the idea that hugging the curb may mean hugging the line of parked cars, and I don't know about you, but the thought of getting doored (having someone open their car door into my path) is not very pleasant. I try to leave a couple of feet between me and parked cars when I can, and am very aware of what cars have people in them and what don't.
"Tell Apple [tinyurl.com] to let you browse iTunes by any criteria like on the iPod."
I've been thinking about this for a couple of days. What on earth are you talking about? You CAN browse iTunes by any criteria? Or do you mean by Composer as well? Because you can browse by Artist, Genre and Album already.
What am I missing?
Ah, yes. Since all of /. is one mind and not somehow a collection of many minds that somehow all think independently of one another.
Go back to the playpen, Baby.
Insightful? Are you fucking kidding?
How, exactly, my little anonymous friend, is MS "open" when compared to Apple? 'Cos I am totally not seeing it.